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Mickey · 11-26-2002, 07:27 PM

Everything had musical numbers back in those days. I think it was a hang over from the old music hall days. Some shows did them straight, others made a joke out of them, but the Python team have often said that they and Spike Milligan were the first people not to put any music into their comedy shows. It was such an expected part of it all until then. Light entertainment standard I guess.

I've never seen the Diana Dors show... can't say that I'm sorry! As for American alternatives to Morecambe and Wise, most people compare them to Dino and Jerry Lewis. Not quite the same, because Morecambe and Wise didn't really make films, and were totally stand up and sketch orientated, but they were compared because of their huge popularity as a double act. Couldn't think of a comparison for "Not Only...", but then I don't know many American sketch shows! It was bloody good, anyway. Monochrome sixties comedy - sketches and some musical numbers, largely because of Dudley Moore's amazing musical abilities. Did it get shown in the States?

dawsongirl · 11-26-2002, 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by Mickey
Everything had musical numbers back in those days. I think it was a hang over from the old music hall days. Some shows did them straight, others made a joke out of them, but the Python team have often said that they and Spike Milligan were the first people not to put any music into their comedy shows. It was such an expected part of it all until then. Light entertainment standard I guess.

I've never seen the Diana Dors show... can't say that I'm sorry! As for American alternatives to Morecambe and Wise, most people compare them to Dino and Jerry Lewis. Not quite the same, because Morecambe and Wise didn't really make films, and were totally stand up and sketch orientated, but they were compared because of their huge popularity as a double act. Couldn't think of a comparison for "Not Only...", but then I don't know many American sketch shows! It was bloody good, anyway. Monochrome sixties comedy - sketches and some musical numbers, largely because of Dudley Moore's amazing musical abilities. Did it get shown in the States?

I've never heard of "Not Only..."

Laugh-In sounds familiar, but I don't recall musical numbers in that. Well, goofy ones I guess.

Diana's show was really only good because "Dickie" Dawson was in it.

Mickey · 11-27-2002, 10:06 AM

Lots of shows with names like "Laugh In" over the years. Russ Abbot had one back in the eighties which had jokey songs, mostly Mounties pretending to be operatic if I remember right. "Not Only... But Also..." was done in the sixties by Peter Cook and Dudley Moore, fresh from rewriting TV comedy history with "Beyond The Fringe" (That one did go to America. Did very well there even though it was all very topical humour). Most of "Not Only..." was cleverly deleted by the BBC, who liked doing things like that back then, but what remains is of superb quality. If you've never seen the Order of the Leaping Nuns, or the one-legged actor applying for the job of Tarzan, then you're missing a vital part of your education...

SPLAIN · 11-27-2002, 12:13 PM

Here in Canada, we get lots of British shows for obvious reasons, but i'm not that familiar with the ones you're mentionning. As a teen, i LOVED Monthy Python, and am hooked on many Bristish shows like Keeping up Appearances, Fawlty Towers, (Gary's fave), and now that i get BBC on the satellite, i'm sure, i'll get to see many others!

Mickey · 11-28-2002, 05:38 AM

Don't bother - they're all dreadful nowadays! If you like Monty Python, though, you'll like "Not Only..." It doesn't come on often, because the BBC was really rather good at deleting their own shows back in the seventies, so it tends to only come aroud now on compliation video releases, but it's well worth a look.

Barnabas1 · 11-28-2002, 08:18 AM

I watched Brittish shows up there in Ontario (see, I lived there so short I cannot even spell it!). They weren't that great.

Mickey · 11-28-2002, 12:29 PM

There was a time when Britain made some of the most outstandingly good television ever devised. I'm still amazed by the quality of things like "Edge Of Darkness" and "Between The Lines", or "Drop The Dead Donkey" and "Cardiac Arrest". Then reality TV was invented, and standards dropped, and game shows took over, and standards dropped further. Now British drama is appalling, the comedy isn't funny, and the actors can't act. I don't really watch much TV anymore, and I used to be a virtual addict.

SPLAIN · 11-28-2002, 03:22 PM

Again we agree Mickey, i was a TV addict also, but i thought since i was raised by the medium, i should appeciate it, and i too consider the advent of reality programming to be the death knell for TV. It's happened before, in the 70's there were many of them, That's Incredible and Real People to name but two, thank God that died out and it was back to normal for a while, but now these shows are popular again because they are so cheap to make, and MONEY is ruining TV the same way it ruined sports and Movies too! I've said this before but in the 50's and 60's there were always three things on at once that were great and we could only watch one, now that we have VCR's, we can tape everything, but there so seldon is something worth taping on!

Barnabas1 · 11-29-2002, 08:19 AM

Claude, Claude, Claude! You amd Mickey are like Amy and me! LOL!

SPLAIN · 11-29-2002, 11:01 AM

I WISH! He ALWAYS makes great points, and ALWAYS knows what he's talking about!

Mickey · 11-29-2002, 12:06 PM

You people all seem to know each other! Do you all live in the same house?

SPLAIN · 11-29-2002, 02:48 PM

He's Ricky of the Babalu board, with a name like that i'm surprised you haven't joined yet. Ricky, is your real name Todd, becaue i got an e mail from someone and i couldn't open it. Also did you take your name from the way Mrs Mcgillicuddy called Ricky, Mickey? Finally, are you UK Lucy fan who sometimes pops up on the boards? We would all love you and old shows and Buddy Love and anybody else who wants to, come on the other Lucy sites like The Lucy classroom or Lucy Talk, i won't be happy till all fans post on every board!

Mickey · 11-29-2002, 02:54 PM

I've been called Mickey for years. It's because I like to take the Mick... Originally I used a far less normal sounding name whilst online, but it used to annoy some people because it was so unrevealing, so I use Mickey in places like this. People seem to prefer it. Don't know why, it's just as anonymous and just as assexual.

And no, I'm not UK Lucy Fan. This is the only Lucy board I go to.

SPLAIN · 11-29-2002, 04:24 PM

Ok, so you're not Todd who e mailed me, fine, you mean you might not even be a HE, wow, shocker, i thought sure you were a guy, but then again, you almost NEVER agree with me and seem to love to disagree, so that could mean you are female, ha ha. The obvious question here would be, why don't you go to other boards? Dawsongirl paying you to stay here exclusively? I'm off for the weekend now, so see you all Monday! Have a great weekend everybody, i gotta go find out what that Mick expression means!

Mickey · 11-29-2002, 05:18 PM

If I went to other boards I'd never get anything done!

11-28-2002, 08:18 AM	#21
Barnabas1 Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 01, 2001 Posts: 4,598	I watched Brittish shows up there in Ontario (see, I lived there so short I cannot even spell it!). They weren't that great.
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11-29-2002, 02:54 PM	#28
Mickey Ranger Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 12, 2002 Location: The UK, and still finding Desi funnier than Lucy Posts: 960	I've been called Mickey for years. It's because I like to take the Mick... Originally I used a far less normal sounding name whilst online, but it used to annoy some people because it was so unrevealing, so I use Mickey in places like this. People seem to prefer it. Don't know why, it's just as anonymous and just as assexual. And no, I'm not UK Lucy Fan. This is the only Lucy board I go to.
	Last edited by Mickey; 11-29-2002 at 02:55 PM.

11-26-2002, 07:27 PM	#16
Mickey Ranger Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 12, 2002 Location: The UK, and still finding Desi funnier than Lucy Posts: 960	Everything had musical numbers back in those days. I think it was a hang over from the old music hall days. Some shows did them straight, others made a joke out of them, but the Python team have often said that they and Spike Milligan were the first people not to put any music into their comedy shows. It was such an expected part of it all until then. Light entertainment standard I guess. I've never seen the Diana Dors show... can't say that I'm sorry! As for American alternatives to Morecambe and Wise, most people compare them to Dino and Jerry Lewis. Not quite the same, because Morecambe and Wise didn't really make films, and were totally stand up and sketch orientated, but they were compared because of their huge popularity as a double act. Couldn't think of a comparison for "Not Only...", but then I don't know many American sketch shows! It was bloody good, anyway. Monochrome sixties comedy - sketches and some musical numbers, largely because of Dudley Moore's amazing musical abilities. Did it get shown in the States?

11-27-2002, 10:06 AM	#18
Mickey Ranger Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 12, 2002 Location: The UK, and still finding Desi funnier than Lucy Posts: 960	Lots of shows with names like "Laugh In" over the years. Russ Abbot had one back in the eighties which had jokey songs, mostly Mounties pretending to be operatic if I remember right. "Not Only... But Also..." was done in the sixties by Peter Cook and Dudley Moore, fresh from rewriting TV comedy history with "Beyond The Fringe" (That one did go to America. Did very well there even though it was all very topical humour). Most of "Not Only..." was cleverly deleted by the BBC, who liked doing things like that back then, but what remains is of superb quality. If you've never seen the Order of the Leaping Nuns, or the one-legged actor applying for the job of Tarzan, then you're missing a vital part of your education...

11-27-2002, 12:13 PM	#19
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	Here in Canada, we get lots of British shows for obvious reasons, but i'm not that familiar with the ones you're mentionning. As a teen, i LOVED Monthy Python, and am hooked on many Bristish shows like Keeping up Appearances, Fawlty Towers, (Gary's fave), and now that i get BBC on the satellite, i'm sure, i'll get to see many others!

11-28-2002, 05:38 AM	#20
Mickey Ranger Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 12, 2002 Location: The UK, and still finding Desi funnier than Lucy Posts: 960	Don't bother - they're all dreadful nowadays! If you like Monty Python, though, you'll like "Not Only..." It doesn't come on often, because the BBC was really rather good at deleting their own shows back in the seventies, so it tends to only come aroud now on compliation video releases, but it's well worth a look.

11-28-2002, 12:29 PM	#22
Mickey Ranger Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 12, 2002 Location: The UK, and still finding Desi funnier than Lucy Posts: 960	There was a time when Britain made some of the most outstandingly good television ever devised. I'm still amazed by the quality of things like "Edge Of Darkness" and "Between The Lines", or "Drop The Dead Donkey" and "Cardiac Arrest". Then reality TV was invented, and standards dropped, and game shows took over, and standards dropped further. Now British drama is appalling, the comedy isn't funny, and the actors can't act. I don't really watch much TV anymore, and I used to be a virtual addict.

11-28-2002, 03:22 PM	#23
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	Again we agree Mickey, i was a TV addict also, but i thought since i was raised by the medium, i should appeciate it, and i too consider the advent of reality programming to be the death knell for TV. It's happened before, in the 70's there were many of them, That's Incredible and Real People to name but two, thank God that died out and it was back to normal for a while, but now these shows are popular again because they are so cheap to make, and MONEY is ruining TV the same way it ruined sports and Movies too! I've said this before but in the 50's and 60's there were always three things on at once that were great and we could only watch one, now that we have VCR's, we can tape everything, but there so seldon is something worth taping on!

11-29-2002, 08:19 AM	#24
Barnabas1 Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 01, 2001 Posts: 4,598	Claude, Claude, Claude! You amd Mickey are like Amy and me! LOL!

11-29-2002, 11:01 AM	#25
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	I WISH! He ALWAYS makes great points, and ALWAYS knows what he's talking about!

11-29-2002, 12:06 PM	#26
Mickey Ranger Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 12, 2002 Location: The UK, and still finding Desi funnier than Lucy Posts: 960	You people all seem to know each other! Do you all live in the same house?

11-29-2002, 02:48 PM	#27
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	He's Ricky of the Babalu board, with a name like that i'm surprised you haven't joined yet. Ricky, is your real name Todd, becaue i got an e mail from someone and i couldn't open it. Also did you take your name from the way Mrs Mcgillicuddy called Ricky, Mickey? Finally, are you UK Lucy fan who sometimes pops up on the boards? We would all love you and old shows and Buddy Love and anybody else who wants to, come on the other Lucy sites like The Lucy classroom or Lucy Talk, i won't be happy till all fans post on every board!

11-29-2002, 04:24 PM	#29
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	Ok, so you're not Todd who e mailed me, fine, you mean you might not even be a HE, wow, shocker, i thought sure you were a guy, but then again, you almost NEVER agree with me and seem to love to disagree, so that could mean you are female, ha ha. The obvious question here would be, why don't you go to other boards? Dawsongirl paying you to stay here exclusively? I'm off for the weekend now, so see you all Monday! Have a great weekend everybody, i gotta go find out what that Mick expression means!

11-29-2002, 05:18 PM	#30
Mickey Ranger Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 12, 2002 Location: The UK, and still finding Desi funnier than Lucy Posts: 960	If I went to other boards I'd never get anything done!