Why are you here and where is your compassion? - Page 2 - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Rosalyz · 05-07-2001, 07:50 PM

Oh, my God!! Thank you wheeone. The second story was amazing. I Imagine me standing there in every single part of your stories. Thank you, thank you so much for sharing those moments with us!!!! Please, place that second story on the good night sweet prinze site, so more people can see it too. Thank you, thank you so much. BTW, did Freddie look tall to you when you were 15? Did he looked your age, by that time.? Could you describe to us little details you found about him? Did you saw him on his underwear? eek! Sorry, I'm asking too much. Thank you for sharing. I love your memories of him!

Peko · 05-08-2001, 02:49 PM

.

[This message has been edited by Peko (edited 07-18-2001).]

Cheryl Harrell · 05-08-2001, 05:44 PM

Love reading your stories!

Too bad you didn't get any pictures!

You met Davy Jones? You are so lucky! I've met Mike Nesmith once, & Peter Tork twice. But never Davy or Micky. Oh well maybe one day for Davy & Micky. I've met Arlo Guthrie over 50 times (150 time or more according to Arlo). After knowing him since 19989 & going to over 50 shows & meeting him at each one & being friends with him, you tend to lose track...

Anyone else met Freddie? I'm enjoying reading about meeting him!

Rosalyz · 05-08-2001, 05:56 PM

I think knowing Arlo since 19989 makes more than a 150 times (as Arlo says) LMAO!!!

(sorry, Cheryl, but I can't avoid being a nasty bratt :P ) BTW, Wheeone. Did you get to take pictures of Fred by that time. I desperate to know. Take care mucho, your friend

wheeeone · 05-08-2001, 08:25 PM

The third time we were with Freddie was the only time we ever saw anyone with him. He was always alone. I didn't think it strange at the time (What can I say, I was 15), later I found it odd and sad. We were standing in the hallway of Freddie's dressing room, about halfway down...waiting. All of a sudden Freddie's door opened and David Brenner walked out, he gave us a little bit of a surprised look and asked if we were waiting for Freddie. We said yes and he said that he didn't think Freddie would be out for awhile. Then Freddie opened the door back up, peeked his head out and said, "It's OK" to David. He said "Sure?" and Freddie nodded. David walked down the hallway and Freddie(Head still peeking out) said "I'm going to be awhile girls". He seemed a little sad/serious and I said "Do you want us to go?". He said "No, you can stay if you want...just going to be awhile." We said 'O.K" and Freddie shut his door.
About 45 minutes passed by when Freddie came out(Not his usual relaxed self...) went to close his door, said "Hold on" and went back into his dressing room. He came back out with his forgotten script and said "O.K., who wants to carry my jacket to which I, in lightening speed, said "I will!". When we reached the end of the hallway a gentleman with two girls , probably around 17 and one around 11 or 12 were walking our way when all of a sudden two of the girls started kind of half screeching "Oh my God, It's Chico". The group stopped in front of the three of us and proceeded to start their "Hi, Chico's" while the man (Who must have been an employee) said "Freddie, I'd like to introduce you to my nieces". If I sound as if I have a little bit of disdain in this section you're wrong...I have a lot of disdain. You see, as soon as the girl's called Freddie Chico instead of by his name his eyes and demeanor changed. We hadn't seen that before. He already wasn't in his normal mood and then these girls couldn't even acknowledge him for who he was. I have to say at that moment we hated them for what we perceived as hurting Freddie. Yet, he was still Freddie, he answered their questions, signed autographs, all the while calling him Chico. At one point Freddie quietly said "Freddie" after one of the girls had called him Chico. We had moved away from the"attack" and were standing behind the girls facing Freddie. One of the girls turned around and said "Will you please take a picture of all of us with CHICO!" I (In a rather bad tone) said "Sure, I'll take a picture of you with FREDDIE" with quite an emphasis on the Freddie. So much so that she giggled and said "Yeah, I know, Freddie". Freddie FINALLY let a smirk go then gave us a pretend stern look to which we simply shrugged our shoulders. We were ready to tear these girls apart limb by limb at that point. After the picture Freddie started to pull away from the group and we "fell in" as he walked past us. We walked quite a few feet in silence(also different) and then Freddie said with a bit of amusement in his voice, "I thought I was going to have to pull you off of them at any minute." Well, that's all he had to do...he gave us the opening. My friend said "I can't believe how rude they were calling you Chico" to which Freddie said "People do it all the time." I said "It bothers you." He thought for a moment, looked over as we were walking(made a point of looking me in the eye and said "Yes...it does". He said " That's OK, some people like the real me, huh?" and gave my friend a side shoulder hug with his free arm. We of course in unison said " We love the real you." and he chuckled. I (remember...I'm 15...give me some slack) said " I want a hug, too(Pouting)". Freddie laughed, put his arm out and I moved over for my side shoulder hug. We were at the parking lot and my friend said "Freddie, are you OK, you seem sad tonight?" He said "What you girls are worried about me?" to which we replied "Of course we worry about you". He said "I'm tired, lots on my mind, thanks for asking." When Freddie turned to put his jacket and script in his car he turned back and said "Hey, how come you've never asked for a picture?" My friend replied, "We just like being with you, a picture would be like a "Fan" thing." Freddie got this great smile on his face(eyes twinkling) and said "Oh yeah, that's right, you're not my fans...you like those Kotter guys...OK...probably have a picture with Travolta...don't need one with Freddie.." and then he started laughing. We were flustered saying "Oh Freddie" "That's not true" "We really just like being with you"(Both of us kind of saying it at the same time...again) He said ' I know, I know, it's OK...it's kinda nice". Freddie said "Gotta go girls , be careful going home" to which we replied the same "You, too Freddie". Needless to say our cameras(which were in our purses) weren't going to be coming out too soon after the comment Freddie made. We felt very privileged to spend even one moment with Freddie and didn't want to "mess it up" for anything. We talked about Freddie's sad mood and the hurt look in his eyes that we had seen. I was 15, madly in (very innocent) love and horrified to see pain in Freddie's eyes that we had never seen up to that point. I don't know why Freddie was nice to us, I've asked that question millions of times over the years. I don't care what the answer is...I"m just thankful for his kindness. In answer to a couple of questions I saw posted- Yes, Freddie was beautifully tall(long legs), he always looked into your eyes (or tried to) when he spoke to you..his eyes would enfold you(or at least that is what it seemed like)and he always smelled good(never reeked of cologne) and his hair was beautiful. He was skinny to us though. We thought he was much skinnier in person than on the TV. We never witnessed him being angry or unkind.
to5

EdBrownJr · 05-08-2001, 10:23 PM

I enjoy the people and conversations we have on this board its the best message board around. What i like most about this board is Chica

!!!

------------------
GET OUT OF MY GARAGE!!!

Chica · 05-09-2001, 12:28 AM

Ed Brown, you're making me blush!!! I enjoy this board too...I've learned a lot about Freddie here(and Ed Brown, Jr,)...I just adore Ed Brown,Jr.

chicosladyfair · 05-09-2001, 01:45 AM

Weeeeone, thanks for posting your memories. I envy you in one respect...you got a chance to do what we would all give our right arms for...and yet, I feel saddness at the thought of you and your friend having to go through the tremendous loss of losing Freddie. You must have felt it like a ton of bricks. How special your memories are to you. You are truly blessed for knowing that side of Freddie.
As for Chica and Ed...well, you guys are just great! Keep up the romance..it adds a bit of salsa to the dip mix...LOL. You two are too much

Cheryl Harrell · 05-09-2001, 03:20 AM

Oops, I see I made a typo! I've known ARlo since 1989 LOL!

THis board is very interesting & fun!

That was a great story! Freddie sounds like a really sweet guy. Poor thing! That was wonderful of him that even tho he was going thru a hard time he took time out for you & your friend. Took bad you didn't get any pics! I sure he wouldn't have minded you taking some as long as you didn't call him Chico.

I know with Arlo, I think one thing he appreciates about me & my hubby is that we don't so screwaming when we see him "Oh my God it's Arlo!". We treat him like a regular person & he appreciates that. I am obsessive about taking pics when I meet a star & have to take lots of pics. Arlo thinks it's funny how many pics I take of him & joked that wehn he died & goes to heaven I'll be following him up there taking pictures when he meets St Peter. I do adore taking lots of pictures of him. He's used to it by now! LOL!

It's been my experience with the few stars I've met that they just want ya to treat them like a friend & be friend with them, not tearing their clothes off them & screaming "Oh my God it's so & so!". I think they like being around the little people. One thing I love about Arlo is how humble he is & he doesn't act like a big star. He acts like a regular person & is so kind & sweet & is on no star trip.

I'm getting the impression from reading about Freddie that he was a very sweet person & altho he wanted to be very famous & be recognized as a big star & adored, at the same time he was very humble & a regular guy who wasn't on a star trip. Being nice to teenagers indicates what a sweetheart he must've been.

I wish I could've met him...

Pitooey · 05-09-2001, 09:03 AM

Wheeone - I like reading your meetings with Our beloved Freddie. He sounded so sweet.

Karen64 · 05-09-2001, 10:35 PM

Wow-I loved reading your memories about Freddie, Wheeeone-that is so awesome that you got to meet him! I was about 12 when I started to become fascinated with Freddie, and I would have loved to meet him! Of course, at that age I would have probably done something stupid, like giggle and hide! Sounds like he really got a kick out of you!

[This message has been edited by Karen64 (edited 05-09-2001).]

bella66 · 05-09-2001, 11:43 PM

Wheeeone, those memories you have of him are so awesome. I loved reading them. I see his point about being called Chico. Probably thinking that they only like him if he IS Chico not Freddie. How sad. Nice going wheeeone!

Rosalyz · 05-10-2001, 12:21 AM

Thank you wheeeone. Your stories are so wonderfull. Thanks for the details and bless you for sharing that with us. I know Fred really love having you there. There are no words to express you every detail you gave to us. Love ya!, Rose

wheeeone · 05-10-2001, 04:04 AM

Thank you all for your comments on my memories of Freddie. Chicosladyfair, when I read your post and the insight you had concerning how Freddie's death affected me I couldn't help but cry. I've been reading the posts on this board from the beginning and struggled as to whether to share my memories or not. It took this long to be able to share what are some of the most joyous moments of my life because they ultimately became the most horrendously painful memories for such a long time. I didn't for one moment think that the night I said goodbye to Freddie when I moved out of state would be the last time I ever saw him, spoke to him....After all, I was going to be back to visit in a little over a year...he'd still have his series...
Reading the wonderful feelings and comments about Freddie on this board convinced me that I could share Freddie's sweetness and a small glimpse into a side of him that no one seemed to feel was important enough to put into any articles I've read over the years. All of you who admire his talent, love his performances, miss him also...and keep his memory alive have helped to heal a part of my soul that carries the sadness of his loss. Thank you for giving me the courage to share my precious moments with MY "First Love". When Freddie died, it was the first time anyone I had ever come in contact with/known in any way had died. He was my first experience with great loss. I will always carry sadness for the "next time" I never got to experience.... Again, thank you all...there's only two more times that we had encounters with Freddie and I will post them soon...just busy and making sure I don't leave out the details is time consuming...and a little heart wrenching.

Cheryl Harrell · 05-10-2001, 06:26 AM

I've enjoyed reading your Freddie stories. He sounds like a sweet person who had alot of problemns & died way too soon. I know how hard it must've been for you losing him. You were so lucky to have gotten to know him. It's funny how the media will focus on the pills he took but never focus on the sweet guy you knew. He sounds like a sweetheart!

Thanks for sharing!

05-07-2001, 07:50 PM	#16
Rosalyz La amiguita de Fredo Occasional Poster Join Date: May 03, 2001 Location: San Francisco California Posts: 92	Oh, my God!! Thank you wheeone. The second story was amazing. I Imagine me standing there in every single part of your stories. Thank you, thank you so much for sharing those moments with us!!!! Please, place that second story on the good night sweet prinze site, so more people can see it too. Thank you, thank you so much. BTW, did Freddie look tall to you when you were 15? Did he looked your age, by that time.? Could you describe to us little details you found about him? Did you saw him on his underwear? eek! Sorry, I'm asking too much. Thank you for sharing. I love your memories of him!

05-08-2001, 02:49 PM	#17
Peko Banned Banned!! Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 03, 2001 Posts: 181	. [This message has been edited by Peko (edited 07-18-2001).]

05-08-2001, 05:44 PM	#18
Cheryl Harrell I Love You Mike 4-Ever Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 23, 2001 Location: Pixley!!!! Actually VA--USA LOL! Posts: 6,192	Love reading your stories! Too bad you didn't get any pictures! You met Davy Jones? You are so lucky! I've met Mike Nesmith once, & Peter Tork twice. But never Davy or Micky. Oh well maybe one day for Davy & Micky. I've met Arlo Guthrie over 50 times (150 time or more according to Arlo). After knowing him since 19989 & going to over 50 shows & meeting him at each one & being friends with him, you tend to lose track... Anyone else met Freddie? I'm enjoying reading about meeting him!

05-08-2001, 05:56 PM	#19
Rosalyz La amiguita de Fredo Occasional Poster Join Date: May 03, 2001 Location: San Francisco California Posts: 92	I think knowing Arlo since 19989 makes more than a 150 times (as Arlo says) LMAO!!! (sorry, Cheryl, but I can't avoid being a nasty bratt :P ) BTW, Wheeone. Did you get to take pictures of Fred by that time. I desperate to know. Take care mucho, your friend

05-08-2001, 08:25 PM	#20
wheeeone Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 11, 2001 Location: Woodland Hills, Ca Posts: 138	The third time we were with Freddie was the only time we ever saw anyone with him. He was always alone. I didn't think it strange at the time (What can I say, I was 15), later I found it odd and sad. We were standing in the hallway of Freddie's dressing room, about halfway down...waiting. All of a sudden Freddie's door opened and David Brenner walked out, he gave us a little bit of a surprised look and asked if we were waiting for Freddie. We said yes and he said that he didn't think Freddie would be out for awhile. Then Freddie opened the door back up, peeked his head out and said, "It's OK" to David. He said "Sure?" and Freddie nodded. David walked down the hallway and Freddie(Head still peeking out) said "I'm going to be awhile girls". He seemed a little sad/serious and I said "Do you want us to go?". He said "No, you can stay if you want...just going to be awhile." We said 'O.K" and Freddie shut his door. About 45 minutes passed by when Freddie came out(Not his usual relaxed self...) went to close his door, said "Hold on" and went back into his dressing room. He came back out with his forgotten script and said "O.K., who wants to carry my jacket to which I, in lightening speed, said "I will!". When we reached the end of the hallway a gentleman with two girls , probably around 17 and one around 11 or 12 were walking our way when all of a sudden two of the girls started kind of half screeching "Oh my God, It's Chico". The group stopped in front of the three of us and proceeded to start their "Hi, Chico's" while the man (Who must have been an employee) said "Freddie, I'd like to introduce you to my nieces". If I sound as if I have a little bit of disdain in this section you're wrong...I have a lot of disdain. You see, as soon as the girl's called Freddie Chico instead of by his name his eyes and demeanor changed. We hadn't seen that before. He already wasn't in his normal mood and then these girls couldn't even acknowledge him for who he was. I have to say at that moment we hated them for what we perceived as hurting Freddie. Yet, he was still Freddie, he answered their questions, signed autographs, all the while calling him Chico. At one point Freddie quietly said "Freddie" after one of the girls had called him Chico. We had moved away from the"attack" and were standing behind the girls facing Freddie. One of the girls turned around and said "Will you please take a picture of all of us with CHICO!" I (In a rather bad tone) said "Sure, I'll take a picture of you with FREDDIE" with quite an emphasis on the Freddie. So much so that she giggled and said "Yeah, I know, Freddie". Freddie FINALLY let a smirk go then gave us a pretend stern look to which we simply shrugged our shoulders. We were ready to tear these girls apart limb by limb at that point. After the picture Freddie started to pull away from the group and we "fell in" as he walked past us. We walked quite a few feet in silence(also different) and then Freddie said with a bit of amusement in his voice, "I thought I was going to have to pull you off of them at any minute." Well, that's all he had to do...he gave us the opening. My friend said "I can't believe how rude they were calling you Chico" to which Freddie said "People do it all the time." I said "It bothers you." He thought for a moment, looked over as we were walking(made a point of looking me in the eye and said "Yes...it does". He said " That's OK, some people like the real me, huh?" and gave my friend a side shoulder hug with his free arm. We of course in unison said " We love the real you." and he chuckled. I (remember...I'm 15...give me some slack) said " I want a hug, too(Pouting)". Freddie laughed, put his arm out and I moved over for my side shoulder hug. We were at the parking lot and my friend said "Freddie, are you OK, you seem sad tonight?" He said "What you girls are worried about me?" to which we replied "Of course we worry about you". He said "I'm tired, lots on my mind, thanks for asking." When Freddie turned to put his jacket and script in his car he turned back and said "Hey, how come you've never asked for a picture?" My friend replied, "We just like being with you, a picture would be like a "Fan" thing." Freddie got this great smile on his face(eyes twinkling) and said "Oh yeah, that's right, you're not my fans...you like those Kotter guys...OK...probably have a picture with Travolta...don't need one with Freddie.." and then he started laughing. We were flustered saying "Oh Freddie" "That's not true" "We really just like being with you"(Both of us kind of saying it at the same time...again) He said ' I know, I know, it's OK...it's kinda nice". Freddie said "Gotta go girls , be careful going home" to which we replied the same "You, too Freddie". Needless to say our cameras(which were in our purses) weren't going to be coming out too soon after the comment Freddie made. We felt very privileged to spend even one moment with Freddie and didn't want to "mess it up" for anything. We talked about Freddie's sad mood and the hurt look in his eyes that we had seen. I was 15, madly in (very innocent) love and horrified to see pain in Freddie's eyes that we had never seen up to that point. I don't know why Freddie was nice to us, I've asked that question millions of times over the years. I don't care what the answer is...I"m just thankful for his kindness. In answer to a couple of questions I saw posted- Yes, Freddie was beautifully tall(long legs), he always looked into your eyes (or tried to) when he spoke to you..his eyes would enfold you(or at least that is what it seemed like)and he always smelled good(never reeked of cologne) and his hair was beautiful. He was skinny to us though. We thought he was much skinnier in person than on the TV. We never witnessed him being angry or unkind. to5

05-08-2001, 10:23 PM	#21
EdBrownJr Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 08, 2001 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 1,247	I enjoy the people and conversations we have on this board its the best message board around. What i like most about this board is Chica !!! ------------------ GET OUT OF MY GARAGE!!!

05-09-2001, 12:28 AM	#22
Chica Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 08, 2001 Location: Roanoke,Va USA Posts: 165	Ed Brown, you're making me blush!!! I enjoy this board too...I've learned a lot about Freddie here(and Ed Brown, Jr,)...I just adore Ed Brown,Jr.

05-09-2001, 01:45 AM	#23
chicosladyfair Member Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 10, 2001 Location: Sunny California Posts: 770	Weeeeone, thanks for posting your memories. I envy you in one respect...you got a chance to do what we would all give our right arms for...and yet, I feel saddness at the thought of you and your friend having to go through the tremendous loss of losing Freddie. You must have felt it like a ton of bricks. How special your memories are to you. You are truly blessed for knowing that side of Freddie. As for Chica and Ed...well, you guys are just great! Keep up the romance..it adds a bit of salsa to the dip mix...LOL. You two are too much

05-09-2001, 03:20 AM	#24
Cheryl Harrell I Love You Mike 4-Ever Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 23, 2001 Location: Pixley!!!! Actually VA--USA LOL! Posts: 6,192	Oops, I see I made a typo! I've known ARlo since 1989 LOL! THis board is very interesting & fun! That was a great story! Freddie sounds like a really sweet guy. Poor thing! That was wonderful of him that even tho he was going thru a hard time he took time out for you & your friend. Took bad you didn't get any pics! I sure he wouldn't have minded you taking some as long as you didn't call him Chico. I know with Arlo, I think one thing he appreciates about me & my hubby is that we don't so screwaming when we see him "Oh my God it's Arlo!". We treat him like a regular person & he appreciates that. I am obsessive about taking pics when I meet a star & have to take lots of pics. Arlo thinks it's funny how many pics I take of him & joked that wehn he died & goes to heaven I'll be following him up there taking pictures when he meets St Peter. I do adore taking lots of pictures of him. He's used to it by now! LOL! It's been my experience with the few stars I've met that they just want ya to treat them like a friend & be friend with them, not tearing their clothes off them & screaming "Oh my God it's so & so!". I think they like being around the little people. One thing I love about Arlo is how humble he is & he doesn't act like a big star. He acts like a regular person & is so kind & sweet & is on no star trip. I'm getting the impression from reading about Freddie that he was a very sweet person & altho he wanted to be very famous & be recognized as a big star & adored, at the same time he was very humble & a regular guy who wasn't on a star trip. Being nice to teenagers indicates what a sweetheart he must've been. I wish I could've met him...

05-09-2001, 09:03 AM	#25
Pitooey Member Forum Star Join Date: Feb 15, 2001 Location: Rocking in Transylvania. Posts: 15,042	Wheeone - I like reading your meetings with Our beloved Freddie. He sounded so sweet.

05-09-2001, 10:35 PM	#26
Karen64 Comedy Fan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 24, 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,412	Wow-I loved reading your memories about Freddie, Wheeeone-that is so awesome that you got to meet him! I was about 12 when I started to become fascinated with Freddie, and I would have loved to meet him! Of course, at that age I would have probably done something stupid, like giggle and hide! Sounds like he really got a kick out of you! [This message has been edited by Karen64 (edited 05-09-2001).]

05-09-2001, 11:43 PM	#27
bella66 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 03, 2001 Location: Illinois U.S. Posts: 227	Wheeeone, those memories you have of him are so awesome. I loved reading them. I see his point about being called Chico. Probably thinking that they only like him if he IS Chico not Freddie. How sad. Nice going wheeeone!

05-10-2001, 12:21 AM	#28
Rosalyz La amiguita de Fredo Occasional Poster Join Date: May 03, 2001 Location: San Francisco California Posts: 92	Thank you wheeeone. Your stories are so wonderfull. Thanks for the details and bless you for sharing that with us. I know Fred really love having you there. There are no words to express you every detail you gave to us. Love ya!, Rose

05-10-2001, 04:04 AM	#29
wheeeone Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 11, 2001 Location: Woodland Hills, Ca Posts: 138	Thank you all for your comments on my memories of Freddie. Chicosladyfair, when I read your post and the insight you had concerning how Freddie's death affected me I couldn't help but cry. I've been reading the posts on this board from the beginning and struggled as to whether to share my memories or not. It took this long to be able to share what are some of the most joyous moments of my life because they ultimately became the most horrendously painful memories for such a long time. I didn't for one moment think that the night I said goodbye to Freddie when I moved out of state would be the last time I ever saw him, spoke to him....After all, I was going to be back to visit in a little over a year...he'd still have his series... Reading the wonderful feelings and comments about Freddie on this board convinced me that I could share Freddie's sweetness and a small glimpse into a side of him that no one seemed to feel was important enough to put into any articles I've read over the years. All of you who admire his talent, love his performances, miss him also...and keep his memory alive have helped to heal a part of my soul that carries the sadness of his loss. Thank you for giving me the courage to share my precious moments with MY "First Love". When Freddie died, it was the first time anyone I had ever come in contact with/known in any way had died. He was my first experience with great loss. I will always carry sadness for the "next time" I never got to experience.... Again, thank you all...there's only two more times that we had encounters with Freddie and I will post them soon...just busy and making sure I don't leave out the details is time consuming...and a little heart wrenching.

05-10-2001, 06:26 AM	#30
Cheryl Harrell I Love You Mike 4-Ever Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 23, 2001 Location: Pixley!!!! Actually VA--USA LOL! Posts: 6,192	I've enjoyed reading your Freddie stories. He sounds like a sweet person who had alot of problemns & died way too soon. I know how hard it must've been for you losing him. You were so lucky to have gotten to know him. It's funny how the media will focus on the pills he took but never focus on the sweet guy you knew. He sounds like a sweetheart! Thanks for sharing!