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Cashodeen · 06-05-2003, 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by luvthebeav
Didn't the Cleavers donate the pet alligator to an alligator farm were the Beav could go and visit after school? I would think this would indicate it was at least a southern state.

I'm not an alligator expert but that sounds right to me. That's just another example of how the show contradicts itself to throw us viewers off!

frani · 06-06-2003, 06:33 AM

Ohio. Perioc.

frani · 06-06-2003, 06:34 AM

I meant Ohio. Period.

Cashodeen · 06-06-2003, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by frani
I meant Ohio. Period.

How do you explain the ocean? And who surfs in the midwest?

BrandonS · 06-07-2003, 12:54 AM

The hints are absolutely contradictory, but there are a lot of hints for the Cleveland area, like references to Euclid Avenue and Shaker Heights.

Cashodeen · 06-07-2003, 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by BrandonS

The hints are absolutely contradictory, but there are a lot of hints for the Cleveland area, like references to Euclid Avenue and Shaker Heights.

True, true, true. And I'd be all for declaring it's location in Ohio, but because of the other contradictions, only OR or WA (as far as I know) support everything. Obviously the writers didn't intend on it being in either of those states, so I should just throw in the towel and declare it's location as Nowheresville. But then that wouldn't be much fun, would it?

BrandonS · 06-07-2003, 02:16 AM

And we haven't even gotten into Ward's profession yet tonight!

Cashodeen · 06-07-2003, 02:25 AM

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Originally posted by BrandonS
And we haven't even gotten into Ward's profession yet tonight!

Oh goodness. If we tried to tackle that tonight, I would get a serious headache! Some other time!

frani · 06-07-2003, 05:36 AM

I think that it is intended to be Ohio and that the writers just decided to stretch the truth a bit. At the time they were talking about surfboards and things like that, the big hits in music were the beach boys, etc. so it's very likely that had something to do with it. But I'm sure it was intended to be middle America.

As for Ward's profession, he was a dad who worked in an office.

if you think about it, that's what lots of people do. they work in an office without a clearly delineated title such as doctor, etc.

what puzzles me though is that they had made him an engineer early in his life (without ever having gone to school for it, unless it was an undergraduate major in those days)

BrandonS · 06-07-2003, 10:56 AM

Engineering was several undergraduate majors when I arrived at school in the early 70s, e.g. Civil Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Mechanical Enginerring, etc. Of course, Ward would have gone to college sometime around the 30s

frani · 06-07-2003, 11:14 AM

I just looked at my last post and realized I forgot to finish my thought....(it was around 5 a.m. here when I wrote it)

Thanks Brandon, for the info about the engineering. Maybe it still is an undergraduate major. I just didn't know.

But what puzzled me a little was that if he had been an engineer and actually had gotten experience as he had in the Seabees, and he never says he hated it or anything, why wouldn't he have continued being an engineer later on?

I don't think he's intended to be an engineer, but that just puzzles me why they don't make him one.

Kitt · 06-07-2003, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by Cashodeen

I'm not an alligator expert but that sounds right to me. That's just another example of how the show contradicts itself to throw us viewers off!

ABout the alligator in the zoo: not necessaily so that the zoo would need to be in the south. The San Diego zoo has polar bears as I'm sure do others. Zoos try to create an atmosphere to accomadate their clientel, lol. Including altering the climate in some cases.

Cashodeen · 06-07-2003, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by Kitt
ABout the alligator in the zoo: not necessaily so that the zoo would need to be in the south. The San Diego zoo has polar bears as I'm sure do others. Zoos try to create an atmosphere to accomadate their clientel, lol. Including altering the climate in some cases.

Okay, thanks for that. luvthebeav was the one that brought that up, and I wasn't sure if it was another condradiction to add, or what.

BrandonS · 06-08-2003, 02:27 AM

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Originally posted by frani
I don't think he's intended to be an engineer, but that just puzzles me why they don't make him one.

Yes, that's always puzzled me. I can't imagine they'd let someone do engineering in WW2 without a degree or comparable experience, and I don't believe that most people who go to school in engineering and then work in it just one day decide to abandon it.

06-06-2003, 06:33 AM	#17
frani Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 09, 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 445	Ohio. Perioc.

06-06-2003, 06:34 AM	#18
frani Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 09, 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 445	I meant Ohio. Period.

06-07-2003, 12:54 AM	#20
BrandonS Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Aug 18, 2002 Posts: 8,824	The hints are absolutely contradictory, but there are a lot of hints for the Cleveland area, like references to Euclid Avenue and Shaker Heights.

06-07-2003, 02:16 AM	#22
BrandonS Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Aug 18, 2002 Posts: 8,824	And we haven't even gotten into Ward's profession yet tonight!

06-07-2003, 05:36 AM	#24
frani Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 09, 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 445	I think that it is intended to be Ohio and that the writers just decided to stretch the truth a bit. At the time they were talking about surfboards and things like that, the big hits in music were the beach boys, etc. so it's very likely that had something to do with it. But I'm sure it was intended to be middle America. As for Ward's profession, he was a dad who worked in an office. if you think about it, that's what lots of people do. they work in an office without a clearly delineated title such as doctor, etc. what puzzles me though is that they had made him an engineer early in his life (without ever having gone to school for it, unless it was an undergraduate major in those days)

06-07-2003, 10:56 AM	#25
BrandonS Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Aug 18, 2002 Posts: 8,824	Engineering was several undergraduate majors when I arrived at school in the early 70s, e.g. Civil Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Mechanical Enginerring, etc. Of course, Ward would have gone to college sometime around the 30s

06-07-2003, 11:14 AM	#26
frani Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 09, 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 445	I just looked at my last post and realized I forgot to finish my thought....(it was around 5 a.m. here when I wrote it) Thanks Brandon, for the info about the engineering. Maybe it still is an undergraduate major. I just didn't know. But what puzzled me a little was that if he had been an engineer and actually had gotten experience as he had in the Seabees, and he never says he hated it or anything, why wouldn't he have continued being an engineer later on? I don't think he's intended to be an engineer, but that just puzzles me why they don't make him one.