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FreddieFan · 10-22-2002, 07:17 AM

I love Desi too!!! I never thought he received enough recognition. I love his music too.

SPLAIN · 10-22-2002, 11:09 AM

While i certainly agree that the show would not be the hit it is after 50 years if Richard Denning had played her husband, i too am shocked to hear someone say they love Desi more than Lucy, they certainly were great together and her material later on might not have been as good, but having been I Love Lucy'd to death, i just would like to see her other shows more often, just to break the monotony! It's a classic all right, the only TV show inducted into the TV Hall of fame, but her later work though not as great is still Lucy and that's good enough for me. I just got the first 50 Lucy shows and am getting such fond memories remembering them and i look forward to getting my next 100 and then i'll tackle the Here's Lucy shows, they all have something great about them, and they're not as familiar as the classic, but they all have one thing in common, they all starred the greatest TV comic of all time. Old shows, did you ever think of going on other Lucy boards so we can discuss more subjects, i tried PM's and e mails, but you don't want any, i'd love to have more things to discuss with many of you, but there isn't much action lately on these boards!

Mickey · 10-22-2002, 12:31 PM

Why shocked? After all, we're all different! Whilst I do have a passing interest in Lucy's later TV work, what I've seen of it so far hasn't impressed me - and besides, you lot might get to see ILL all the time, but I certainly don't! It was Desi's input that made the show for me, and I prefer him as an entertainer, and therefore have more interest in ILL than in the later shows. Incidentally I finally got to see his episode of 'Ironside' about a year ago, and it was so good. Made in 1973 I think. Meaning no disrespect to Lucy, anyway, but I like Desi better!

SPLAIN · 10-22-2002, 01:52 PM

Nobody's denying that he was a genius behind the scenes, he was! And the singing, great! As a father of two kids, fantastic, i always loved the story where he took the kids by the hand to go watch a sunset. Saw him Friday night in Francis Ford Coppola's The Escape Artist, can't believe it was a short four years before he died. I consider myself one of Lucy's biggest fans, but truth be told, i'd be the first to admit that if i had met the two of them, i probably would have been friends with him more than with her, if she had talked to me the way she talked to most people, i might have killed her, whereas he was so into living and enjoying life which i admire, he retired to enjoy the remainder of his life, which is admirable, had a great relationship with his kids, unfortunately, i go through money like he did! Bought that new video, Babalu music and listening to it, it all came back to me what a great voice he had, and that music was to die for, but Desi would be the first to tell you that without Lucy there would have been no show, he gave her 90 percent of the credit and split the rest between himself and the rest of the cast and crew. Lucie Arnaz is always trying to get recognition for her dad, not just her mom, seems she's succeeded with you, nice to hear Desi is finally appreciated after all these years!

Ricardos4ever · 10-22-2002, 04:17 PM

Yeah, I'm with you Mickey. I don't like Lucy any more than I like Desi. They're both the best!

SPLAIN · 10-22-2002, 04:35 PM

Always loved the story that the morning of his funeral some schoolchildren wondered who the famous person was that died because there were cameras there, and when they were told it was the man that portrayed Ricky Ricardo, these small kids got sad as they all knew him!

oldshows · 10-22-2002, 06:18 PM

Jumping in on this Desi thing, I absolutely agree Desi was a great actor and really helped add to the show on stage. And he was absolutely the backbone of the show behind the scenes. He made sure everybody was happy, everything ran smoothly, and always gave the writers good constructive criticism that helped produce the great scripts. Lucy would miss this help in her later shows. I do go on the TVLand message boards occasionally. They have a couple of Lucy boards. Things are mostly dull over there. I tried to get a movement started to get TVLand to air The Lucy Show and Here's Lucy as I did on here.

dawsongirl · 10-23-2002, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by Mickey
Sometimes I think I'm the only one! But he was a cool guy, and even Bob Hope, probably the greatest comedian ever, was impressed by his comic timing. Then there's that amazing voice - A shouter, yes, but no microphone. These days everybodys' singing is dubbed on later to make up for bad acoustics, whereas Desi just went for it. And besides, anybody who plays drums like that...!

Actually I always found Dino funnier than Jerry Lewis as well, and Ernie Wise funnier than Eric Morecambe. Go figure.

I'm probably an odd ball too. My list of favorite actors far outweighs the actresses and most of them are retired or dead.

dawsongirl · 10-23-2002, 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by Mickey
Incidentally I finally got to see his episode of 'Ironside' about a year ago, and it was so good. Made in 1973 I think.

He was on an ep of Ironsides? Cool!

Not that I've even seen an episode of that, but I love 70s TV and guest appearances are awesome! Yes SPLAIN, especially the ones with Richard.

Have any of you seen Desi's Alice appearance? Interesting. He looks old and it was in 78.

Mickey · 10-23-2002, 07:45 AM

Well his hair was completely white in Ironside, and I suppose he did look quite old. Very healthy and happy though. He played a doctor who suspects that a death he's called to confirm is murder, so he refuses to sign the death certificate. He's friends with Ironside (naturally) who just happens to be visiting with his deputy, Ed Brown, so they solve the case together. Desi's character brews his own alcohol, which is all peculiar colours (green bourbon!), and has a thing for powerful banana cocktails. He's playing to type really, I suppose, with a lot of jokes about drinking a lot, and his enthusiasm is infectious, as always! Don't think I've heard of Alice.

SPLAIN · 10-23-2002, 10:39 AM

Alice was written by Bob and Madelyn and was a huge hit that ran for nine years, it was based on the film Alice doesn't live here anymore with Ellen Burstyn.

dawsongirl · 10-23-2002, 09:37 PM

Wow. That sounds like a cool episode! I'll have to see if I can get my hands on it. Ebay's great for that sort of thing.

LucyCrazy · 10-24-2002, 06:43 PM

I think that I would rather have the ILL and LDCH's than the other ones. I liked the later one well, the only ones i have seen were most of The Lucy Show and I have them on DVD

. I would like to have seen Here's Lucy even though it was really bad. I would have liked to have seen her final shows.
But I agree with You ppl, Desi was a fenominal entertainer he just went out there and did his thing. He was also very smart off camera and he was not really recognized before. Whenever he would perform in a nightclub and Lucy came to watch, her being there would be in the news and not Desi's appearance.

oldshows · 10-24-2002, 08:25 PM

How can you say Here's Lucy was really bad if you have never saw it? And no it wasn't really bad. Yes there were some bad episodes during the series but overall the series was fairly good, not I Love Lucy good but still fairly good. The best episodes of Here's Lucy, for example "Lucy Meets the Burtons", can most definately hold there own against I Love Lucy's best.

Ricardos4ever · 10-24-2002, 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by Mickey
Well his hair was completely white in Ironside, and I suppose he did look quite old. Very healthy and happy though.

Yeah, it is so strange seeing him with white hair, because it is the complete opposite of what we are used to. He actually started getting that white hair when he was in his twenties, possibly from all the stress of his late teens (losing everything and coming over to the US). He had to color it black, and sometimes during the ILL episodes, you can see some white hair on him.

View Poll Results: Which Would You Rather Own?
Her early comedy work: "I Love Lucy"/"The Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour"	22	81.48%
Her later comedy work: "The Lucy Show"/"Here's Lucy"/"Life With Lucy"	5	18.52%
Voters: 27. You may not vote on this poll

10-22-2002, 07:17 AM	#16
FreddieFan Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Dec 06, 2001 Posts: 16	I love Desi too!!! I never thought he received enough recognition. I love his music too.

10-22-2002, 11:09 AM	#17
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	While i certainly agree that the show would not be the hit it is after 50 years if Richard Denning had played her husband, i too am shocked to hear someone say they love Desi more than Lucy, they certainly were great together and her material later on might not have been as good, but having been I Love Lucy'd to death, i just would like to see her other shows more often, just to break the monotony! It's a classic all right, the only TV show inducted into the TV Hall of fame, but her later work though not as great is still Lucy and that's good enough for me. I just got the first 50 Lucy shows and am getting such fond memories remembering them and i look forward to getting my next 100 and then i'll tackle the Here's Lucy shows, they all have something great about them, and they're not as familiar as the classic, but they all have one thing in common, they all starred the greatest TV comic of all time. Old shows, did you ever think of going on other Lucy boards so we can discuss more subjects, i tried PM's and e mails, but you don't want any, i'd love to have more things to discuss with many of you, but there isn't much action lately on these boards!

10-22-2002, 12:31 PM	#18
Mickey Ranger Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 12, 2002 Location: The UK, and still finding Desi funnier than Lucy Posts: 960	Why shocked? After all, we're all different! Whilst I do have a passing interest in Lucy's later TV work, what I've seen of it so far hasn't impressed me - and besides, you lot might get to see ILL all the time, but I certainly don't! It was Desi's input that made the show for me, and I prefer him as an entertainer, and therefore have more interest in ILL than in the later shows. Incidentally I finally got to see his episode of 'Ironside' about a year ago, and it was so good. Made in 1973 I think. Meaning no disrespect to Lucy, anyway, but I like Desi better!

10-22-2002, 01:52 PM	#19
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	Nobody's denying that he was a genius behind the scenes, he was! And the singing, great! As a father of two kids, fantastic, i always loved the story where he took the kids by the hand to go watch a sunset. Saw him Friday night in Francis Ford Coppola's The Escape Artist, can't believe it was a short four years before he died. I consider myself one of Lucy's biggest fans, but truth be told, i'd be the first to admit that if i had met the two of them, i probably would have been friends with him more than with her, if she had talked to me the way she talked to most people, i might have killed her, whereas he was so into living and enjoying life which i admire, he retired to enjoy the remainder of his life, which is admirable, had a great relationship with his kids, unfortunately, i go through money like he did! Bought that new video, Babalu music and listening to it, it all came back to me what a great voice he had, and that music was to die for, but Desi would be the first to tell you that without Lucy there would have been no show, he gave her 90 percent of the credit and split the rest between himself and the rest of the cast and crew. Lucie Arnaz is always trying to get recognition for her dad, not just her mom, seems she's succeeded with you, nice to hear Desi is finally appreciated after all these years!

10-22-2002, 04:17 PM	#20
Ricardos4ever Henna-rinsess Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 28, 2002 Location: Somewhere in the middle of the world's longest Conga line Posts: 473	Yeah, I'm with you Mickey. I don't like Lucy any more than I like Desi. They're both the best!

10-22-2002, 04:35 PM	#21
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	Always loved the story that the morning of his funeral some schoolchildren wondered who the famous person was that died because there were cameras there, and when they were told it was the man that portrayed Ricky Ricardo, these small kids got sad as they all knew him!

10-22-2002, 06:18 PM	#22
oldshows Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 10, 2001 Posts: 215	Jumping in on this Desi thing, I absolutely agree Desi was a great actor and really helped add to the show on stage. And he was absolutely the backbone of the show behind the scenes. He made sure everybody was happy, everything ran smoothly, and always gave the writers good constructive criticism that helped produce the great scripts. Lucy would miss this help in her later shows. I do go on the TVLand message boards occasionally. They have a couple of Lucy boards. Things are mostly dull over there. I tried to get a movement started to get TVLand to air The Lucy Show and Here's Lucy as I did on here.

10-23-2002, 07:45 AM	#25
Mickey Ranger Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 12, 2002 Location: The UK, and still finding Desi funnier than Lucy Posts: 960	Well his hair was completely white in Ironside, and I suppose he did look quite old. Very healthy and happy though. He played a doctor who suspects that a death he's called to confirm is murder, so he refuses to sign the death certificate. He's friends with Ironside (naturally) who just happens to be visiting with his deputy, Ed Brown, so they solve the case together. Desi's character brews his own alcohol, which is all peculiar colours (green bourbon!), and has a thing for powerful banana cocktails. He's playing to type really, I suppose, with a lot of jokes about drinking a lot, and his enthusiasm is infectious, as always! Don't think I've heard of Alice.

10-23-2002, 10:39 AM	#26
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	Alice was written by Bob and Madelyn and was a huge hit that ran for nine years, it was based on the film Alice doesn't live here anymore with Ellen Burstyn.

10-23-2002, 09:37 PM	#27
dawsongirl Member Forum Icon Join Date: Jan 04, 2001 Posts: 53,134	Wow. That sounds like a cool episode! I'll have to see if I can get my hands on it. Ebay's great for that sort of thing.

10-24-2002, 06:43 PM	#28
LucyCrazy Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 22, 2002 Location: Minnesota Posts: 14	I think that I would rather have the ILL and LDCH's than the other ones. I liked the later one well, the only ones i have seen were most of The Lucy Show and I have them on DVD . I would like to have seen Here's Lucy even though it was really bad. I would have liked to have seen her final shows. But I agree with You ppl, Desi was a fenominal entertainer he just went out there and did his thing. He was also very smart off camera and he was not really recognized before. Whenever he would perform in a nightclub and Lucy came to watch, her being there would be in the news and not Desi's appearance.

10-24-2002, 08:25 PM	#29
oldshows Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 10, 2001 Posts: 215	How can you say Here's Lucy was really bad if you have never saw it? And no it wasn't really bad. Yes there were some bad episodes during the series but overall the series was fairly good, not I Love Lucy good but still fairly good. The best episodes of Here's Lucy, for example "Lucy Meets the Burtons", can most definately hold there own against I Love Lucy's best.