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donald snl · 11-29-2003, 10:45 PM

as much as i complan abuut him ill go with james also

hch · 12-12-2003, 01:09 PM

James was the #1 good match for Florida. To me, Carl was just plain mean and was a bit of an A-hole at times. James was never like that with Florida. Sure, James was mad as hell, but you really felt what he was saying. Carl was just bleech compared to what had came before.

PracTz · 12-14-2003, 10:23 PM

Easily, James. Moses Gunn was an excellent actor but the role of Carl was too sketchy (and the romance too contrived) to be believable. Maybe the question should be if there's anyone here who does prefer Carl to James.

I don't know if after they negotiated Esther Rolle's return if they simply couldn't get Mr. Gunn again or if they decided that they needed another James-like character. However;I don't think it was entirely coincidental that they gave Keith some of James's characteristics- albeit loving Florida as mother instead of a wife, Thelma as a wife instead of a daughter and JJ not quite 'freeze'-ing as readily with him as with his late dad when he'd show signs of getting ready to lose his temper!

CCH · 01-03-2004, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SOAPDYNASTY
Please post who you like Florida with James or that awful Carl ?

My vote is for James

James

Mr. Television · 01-03-2004, 01:35 AM

James

dandelion wine · 01-03-2004, 01:48 AM

James

catlover79 · 05-29-2007, 01:54 PM

James! He and Florida were so much in love, and it showed. It's a shame that part of the show was taken away.

AB · 05-29-2007, 04:32 PM

James, he just seemed a better match for Florida.

catlover79 · 07-18-2007, 07:55 PM

What I would've done with Moses Gunn's character is instead make him Florida's brother. Remember Valerie/The Hogan Family? They wrote out the mother/wife and had the husband/father's sister move in. She became a surrogate mother to the three kids, and there was no need to worry about sexual tension or whatever. Carl could've moved in to help out, and the religious differences would be handled a lot differently. See where I'm going with this??

mstewart · 07-19-2007, 05:24 PM

Obviously I preferred James. The whole Carl thing was too quick after James' passing and it should had been dealt with in real time. All in one season Florida suddenly loses her husband, coping with his death, meeting someone with religious beliefs opposite of her, start dating him and getting engaged to him in one season. That was a bit unrealistic. Esther Rolle stated herself that it is something that Florida would not do. The writers needed a male model in there because it was getting old of Florida constantly hollering at the kids. I noticed Florida was yelling a lot more at the kids that season compared to the James' seasons.

Her love scenes with Carl were very good and well done in spite of Esther not wanting Florida immediately getting romantically involved with someone. Florida came alive in those love scenes especially with James.

comedyfreak · 07-20-2007, 05:48 AM

last night I seen the episode where James was killed, Esther was a good actress. DAMN! DAMN! DAMN! powerful episode.

SitcomGyrl1955 · 07-20-2007, 09:41 AM

James, of course.

JAlanRuss72 · 07-20-2007, 02:40 PM

James all the way. Their relationship always seemed very real and natural to me. It seemed they were truly in love and had been for years. The whole Carl thing came off as more of a rush-job to get a father figure for the show.

-STEFFY- · 07-20-2007, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOAPDYNASTY

Please post who you like Florida with James or that awful Carl ?

My vote is for James

JAMES! JAMES! JAMES!

Carl was a big poop!

12-12-2003, 01:09 PM	#17
hch Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 07, 2001 Location: Montross, VA 22520 Posts: 983	Definitely James James was the #1 good match for Florida. To me, Carl was just plain mean and was a bit of an A-hole at times. James was never like that with Florida. Sure, James was mad as hell, but you really felt what he was saying. Carl was just bleech compared to what had came before.
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12-14-2003, 10:23 PM	#18
PracTz Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 14, 2002 Location: United States of America [Happily Living in the 20th Century] Posts: 2,711	James, natch Easily, James. Moses Gunn was an excellent actor but the role of Carl was too sketchy (and the romance too contrived) to be believable. Maybe the question should be if there's anyone here who does prefer Carl to James. I don't know if after they negotiated Esther Rolle's return if they simply couldn't get Mr. Gunn again or if they decided that they needed another James-like character. However;I don't think it was entirely coincidental that they gave Keith some of James's characteristics- albeit loving Florida as mother instead of a wife, Thelma as a wife instead of a daughter and JJ not quite 'freeze'-ing as readily with him as with his late dad when he'd show signs of getting ready to lose his temper!

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11-29-2003, 10:45 PM	#16
donald snl Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 06, 2003 Posts: 456	as much as i complan abuut him ill go with james also

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07-18-2007, 07:55 PM	#24
catlover79 God Bless Val Forum Addict Join Date: May 29, 2006 Location: Bewitched in Ohio Posts: 70,382	What I would've done with Moses Gunn's character is instead make him Florida's brother. Remember Valerie/The Hogan Family? They wrote out the mother/wife and had the husband/father's sister move in. She became a surrogate mother to the three kids, and there was no need to worry about sexual tension or whatever. Carl could've moved in to help out, and the religious differences would be handled a lot differently. See where I'm going with this??

07-19-2007, 05:24 PM	#25
mstewart mstewart Senior Member Join Date: Jan 25, 2002 Location: California Posts: 1,780	Obviously I preferred James. The whole Carl thing was too quick after James' passing and it should had been dealt with in real time. All in one season Florida suddenly loses her husband, coping with his death, meeting someone with religious beliefs opposite of her, start dating him and getting engaged to him in one season. That was a bit unrealistic. Esther Rolle stated herself that it is something that Florida would not do. The writers needed a male model in there because it was getting old of Florida constantly hollering at the kids. I noticed Florida was yelling a lot more at the kids that season compared to the James' seasons. Her love scenes with Carl were very good and well done in spite of Esther not wanting Florida immediately getting romantically involved with someone. Florida came alive in those love scenes especially with James.

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07-20-2007, 09:41 AM	#27
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