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TVFactFan · 10-12-2002, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by boechsner
I personally, never saw her as overweight. I saw her most similiar in weight to Esther Rolle of Good Times. If anything Isabel was just busty. Mabel King of What's Happening!! on the other hand, is a different story.

Exactly-I couldn't think of the word to describe Isabel's size but Busty would defintely be a accurate description. Not over weight okay JAN!!

UpstairsSteak · 10-12-2002, 03:04 PM

Busty is the most accurate way to describe her.

Janice · 10-12-2002, 10:18 PM

Actually, describing a woman as busty would go over like a lead balloon these days. Full-figured or plus-size--these are terms used today to described women over a size 12. Stores that cater to larger women carry clothes starting with size 14. In department stores such as Macys, etc, a special section of the store carries sizes 14 and up. Isabel had to be at least a size 18, but she carried it well.
The antiquated term Busty describes a woman of average weight--size 12 and under--who has a large bust. This was not the case with Isabel.

TVFactFan · 10-12-2002, 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by JanLady617
Actually, describing a woman as busty would go over like a lead balloon these days. Full-figured or plus-size--these are terms used today to described women over a size 12. Stores that cater to larger women carry clothes starting with size 14. In department stores such as Macys, etc, a special section of the store carries sizes 14 and up. Isabel had to be at least a size 18, but she carried it well.
The antiquated term Busty describes a woman of average weight--size 12 and under--who has a large bust. This was not the case with Isabel.

How does top heavy sound?

Janice · 10-12-2002, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by SOLOMON

How does top heavy sound?

Same as busty...sexist.

boechsner · 10-12-2002, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by JanLady617
Actually, describing a woman as busty would go over like a lead balloon these days. Full-figured or plus-size--these are terms used today to described women over a size 12. Stores that cater to larger women carry clothes starting with size 14. In department stores such as Macys, etc, a special section of the store carries sizes 14 and up. Isabel had to be at least a size 18, but she carried it well.
The antiquated term Busty describes a woman of average weight--size 12 and under--who has a large bust. This was not the case with Isabel.

Why are you making this a big deal? Why are you getting so technical? She was busty. Meaning she had a full bosom or a large bust, no one can deny that, and what does saying that have to do with being sexist?

So why do you think they emphasized her bust size on The Rerun Show and not emphasize her being supposedly "overweight by most anyone's standards"? Don't speak for us. Take your own advice and don't state it as a fact, it's your opinion.

TVFactFan · 10-12-2002, 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by JanLady617

Same as busty...sexist.

Well Janlady617-you will just have to face the fact that she was a THICK woman-NOT OVERWEIGHT.

Janice · 10-12-2002, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by boechsner

Why are you making this a big deal? Why are you getting so technical? She was busty. Meaning she had a full bosom or a large bust, no one can deny that, and what does saying that have to do with being sexist?

So why do you think they emphasized her bust size on The Rerun Show and not emphasize her being supposedly "overweight by most anyone's standards"? Don't speak for us. Take your own advice and don't state it as a fact, it's your opinion.

I'm not making a big deal out of anything. This is a message board and I'm discussing something. Technical?--I was simply explaining how the clothing size system works for women.
I also didn't speak for anyone else. FACT is, most people would consider her overweight. Ask your friends for their opinions. Better yet, open your eyes.
Yes, calling a woman busty today is considered a sexist remark. Try it out on someone in your workplace, and see how fast Human Resources hauls you in.

boechsner · 10-12-2002, 11:57 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JanLady617
I'm not making a big deal out of anything. This is a message board and I'm discussing something.

Indeed! Ever since people have been responding to this thread, you've been on the defensive. Onward

Technical?--I was simply explaining how the clothing size system works for women.

I'd say that's a little too technical and something we really don't need to know considering we're dealing with OPINIONS.

I also didn't speak for anyone else. FACT is, most people would consider her overweight. Ask your friends for their opinions. Better yet, open your eyes.

Perhaps you should re-read all your posts in this entire thread. Hypocritical is a word that immediately comes to mind. Who's most people? Perhaps you should say, "people that I've encountered." I certainly have my eyes open, and all the years that I've watched The Jeffersons, the word, overweight has never come to mind, when describing Louise, sorry, but I guess I'm not most people. DAMN!

Yes, calling a woman busty today is considered a sexist remark. Try it out on someone in your workplace, and see how fast
Human Resources hauls you in.

Perhaps you need a little refresher on what sexist mean.

sexist:

adj : discriminatory on the basis of sex n : a man with a chauvinistic belief in the inferiority of women [syn: male chauvinist]

I don't see how any of the comments made thus far can be sexist. Isabel is certainly not inferior for having a large bust (a.k.a.) bosom (or is that also a sexist remark, OOPS, silly me!). Most refined people don't go up to someone and say "Hey your busty!" It's against all known laws of common courtesy. We're describing a person's appearance, what does sex have to do with this. That would be like a girl going up to some guy and saying "Hey, your balding!"

So my question too you is, in you frame of mind, how would one go about describing a WOMAN's physical appearance (pertaining to Isabel Sanford's bust) without making it sound (as you put it) sexist? Any suggestions? Because she certainly isn't overweight (Oh, excuse me), IN MY OPINION, I didn't mean to state that as a fact. Sorry.

Janice · 10-13-2002, 12:33 AM

Talk about making a big deal out of something! Relax.
I won't even begin to explain why commenting on a woman's breasts is a sexist remark. You either get it or you don't.
As for her being overweight, you win. If you don't consider a woman who is, at the very least, a size 18, overweight, I can't argue with that. Everyone has their own preferences.
In my circle of family and friends, that's considered overweight.
I'm a size 10. Five years ago, I gained weight and was a size 14 and climbing. My doctor lectured me about how unhealthy it was to be carrying the extra weight around. He told me I was overweight. I lost the weight.
We're going to have to agree to disagree here.

boechsner · 10-13-2002, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by JanLady617

We're going to have to agree to disagree here.

Agreed.

Kitt · 10-20-2002, 09:34 AM

I'll go back to when JanLady said that if she said water was wet y'all would disagree with her. After reading this thread that sure is the way it seems to me. Weezy was overweight. Busty, thick, call it what you like, it comes down to the completely obvious fact that she was carrying around a lot of weight that was not in the bone, water or muscle category. What is the point of denying that?

TVFactFan · 10-20-2002, 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by kittflynn
I'll go back to when JanLady said that if she said water was wet y'all would disagree with her. After reading this thread that sure is the way it seems to me. Weezy was overweight. Busty, thick, call it what you like, it comes down to the completely obvious fact that she was carrying around a lot of weight that was not in the bone, water or muscle category. What is the point of denying that?

yes i agree-my opinion is that louise was not over weight at all the first season-it was that she gained more weight as the years went on. So i will say she became slighty overweight-NOT Extremely overweight to the point where it was unhealthy.

10-12-2002, 11:57 PM	#24
boechsner Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 18, 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 2,212	[QUOTE]Originally posted by JanLady617 I'm not making a big deal out of anything. This is a message board and I'm discussing something. Indeed! Ever since people have been responding to this thread, you've been on the defensive. Onward *Technical?--I was simply explaining how the clothing size system works for women.* I'd say that's a little too technical and something we really don't need to know considering we're dealing with OPINIONS. *I also didn't speak for anyone else. FACT is, most people would consider her overweight. Ask your friends for their opinions. Better yet, open your eyes.* Perhaps you should re-read all your posts in this entire thread. Hypocritical is a word that immediately comes to mind. Who's most people? Perhaps you should say, "people that I've encountered." I certainly have my eyes open, and all the years that I've watched The Jeffersons, the word, overweight has never come to mind, when describing Louise, sorry, but I guess I'm not most people. DAMN! Yes, calling a woman busty today is considered a sexist remark. Try it out on someone in your workplace, and see how fast Human Resources hauls you in. Perhaps you need a little refresher on what sexist mean. sexist: adj : discriminatory on the basis of sex n : a man with a chauvinistic belief in the inferiority of women [syn: male chauvinist] I don't see how any of the comments made thus far can be sexist. Isabel is certainly not inferior for having a large bust (a.k.a.) bosom (or is that also a sexist remark, OOPS, silly me!). Most refined people don't go up to someone and say "Hey your busty!" It's against all known laws of common courtesy. We're describing a person's appearance, what does sex have to do with this. That would be like a girl going up to some guy and saying "Hey, your balding!" So my question too you is, in you frame of mind, how would one go about describing a WOMAN's physical appearance (pertaining to Isabel Sanford's bust) without making it sound (as you put it) sexist? Any suggestions? Because she certainly isn't overweight (Oh, excuse me), IN MY OPINION, I didn't mean to state that as a fact. Sorry.
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10-13-2002, 12:33 AM	#25
Janice Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin' Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 36,388	Talk about making a big deal out of something! Relax. I won't even begin to explain why commenting on a woman's breasts is a sexist remark. You either get it or you don't. As for her being overweight, you win. If you don't consider a woman who is, at the very least, a size 18, overweight, I can't argue with that. Everyone has their own preferences. In my circle of family and friends, that's considered overweight. I'm a size 10. Five years ago, I gained weight and was a size 14 and climbing. My doctor lectured me about how unhealthy it was to be carrying the extra weight around. He told me I was overweight. I lost the weight. We're going to have to agree to disagree here.
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10-20-2002, 09:34 AM	#27
Kitt James Dean Forum Veteran Join Date: Aug 16, 2001 Location: California Dreamin' Posts: 6,115	Beyond reason I'll go back to when JanLady said that if she said water was wet y'all would disagree with her. After reading this thread that sure is the way it seems to me. Weezy was overweight. Busty, thick, call it what you like, it comes down to the completely obvious fact that she was carrying around a lot of weight that was not in the bone, water or muscle category. What is the point of denying that?

10-12-2002, 03:04 PM	#17
UpstairsSteak Shine On Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 30, 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 303	Busty is the most accurate way to describe her.

10-12-2002, 10:18 PM	#18
Janice Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin' Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 36,388	Actually, describing a woman as busty would go over like a lead balloon these days. Full-figured or plus-size--these are terms used today to described women over a size 12. Stores that cater to larger women carry clothes starting with size 14. In department stores such as Macys, etc, a special section of the store carries sizes 14 and up. Isabel had to be at least a size 18, but she carried it well. The antiquated term Busty describes a woman of average weight--size 12 and under--who has a large bust. This was not the case with Isabel.