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Old 08-08-2002, 03:53 AM   #16
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I guess I must have missed that whole discussion but just went down and read through it. Interesting. I have alot of respect for Lisa. She has every right to believe what she wants.
That said, I followed her trip through her journal for the last year and found it to be a mostly fun read. However, she said some things I found to be offensive. I won't say the things that offended me, I don't want to start anything up again. It's her right to say whatever she pleases on her own website, so I didn't let it bother me too much. But when you put your thoughts and opinions out in the public domain, like she has, then you must expect that people are going to discuss and criticize what you say. Simple fact. I'm sure she is used to it and expects it. There were some things written in that thread that were ridiculous, the cussing and elusions to violence should be removed by the moderator, but some posts were just expressing their feelings and opinions about religion and religious people in general. Expressing your opinion is a good thing.
Lisa does come off as an almost fundamentalist type Christian. To me, fundamentalism can be a very dangerous thing. I won't expand on that, since I know people would be angry by what I say. Not saying that Lisa is a fundamentalist, I don't know her.
Anyway, I have no problem with very religious people, unless they try to impose their morals, values and beliefs on me. To each his own. That is the most unique and amazing thing about our great country.

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Oh my freaking God! Would you all just shut up already?! I don't give a damn if I piss any of you off. Holy crap, why are you all taking it so personally? "Waah waah waah! People on an internet message board are saying mean things about Lisa Whelchel. Waah waah waah!" Oh boo-freakin'-hoo. Cry me a river, build me a bridge and jump off of it.

It's OVER! Blair's My Cherry Pie, it was totally unecessary for you to bring this subject up again. TJ closed the post. It's finished. Done. SO JUST FORGET ABOUT IT!!!!!!!

If we where just supposed to forget about it, why did u post here? Yeah-thats what I thought. Build yourself a frinkin bridge and take you and your shattered soul off of it.( or terms you would understand-jump off your damn bridge) Im done here, I put my 2cents in so Im outta here.
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If we where just supposed to forget about it, why did u post here? Yeah-thats what I thought. Build yourself a frinkin bridge and take you and your shattered soul off of it.( or terms you would understand-jump off your damn bridge) Im done here, I put my 2cents in so Im outta here.
Ouch! Oh, hurt me.

For your information, I posted here to tell whoever started this thread that they didn't need to bring this up again.
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i agree w/ Shattered soult 100000000000%%%....... i'm sure Lisa Whelchel could CARE LESS what peple @ a stupid message board, that she probably will never come to, say about her. Yea, making fun of peoples religion is aweful... yea, offending people is bad.. yea, mean people do suck... but life isn't fair, and those people are there... ya can't kill 'em, ya sure as hell can't change 'em, so just deal w/ it. Get off your pout horse and go get a life...

Shattered souL: I like that "cry me a river, build me a bridge, and jump off it!" LOL
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Okay, why am I bringing up a post again that was already closed?
Simple, every once in a while, some charming individual(s) will start getting into a little verbal slam-fest on Lisa or some other character on the FOL. I felt that the criticisms were cruel and no doubt would go on in some form or other. There are a lot of people like myself who have a very good idea of who Lisa Whelchel is, and can assure you that she is NOT a person who "pushes" religion or anything on anyone. I know there were
a lot of sick things said in response to how she raises her kids, all
because they took something she said in one of her books and made her out to be some abusive parent. I know that Lisa is now
using young people's newfound interest in her as a way to bring the message of Christ into their lives, and that some people on the boards just wanted to slam her as being a "holier-than-thou"
type who was merely a spiritual tyrant. It seems in this post 9/11
world, everyone has this token appreciation for religion, but Christianity seems to be dissed as intolerant and oppressive.
People who know Lisa regard her as a very kind person who wants to share the love of God in a way that doesn't offend or scare off people, she wants to make Jesus a REAL person in our lives. It infuriates me that people who have no idea of what she's all about want to paint her as a brainless "fundamentalist"
and twist her words around to make her the opposite of what she really is. I think it's more out of spite and a prior contempt for Christianity that makes people do this. I think that thread was closed because people were getting very vulgar and abusive
in their language, especially toward her.
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Maybe I shouldn't post a reply on this thread, but I think I will anyway. I know Blair's My Cherry Pie had good intention by posting this, but I somehow get the feeling that this is going to turn out into an ugly fight too.

I think that instead of posting this we should've just let the Lisa post just go down to the bottom of the pile. jmo
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To Jenny, I think you're right.
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Please..how old are we?? Do you really think Lisa could give a rats toosh what we think?? Maybe, yeah, if people act the way some of you have been acting. Frankly this whole damn thread needs to be closed so we can get on with our lives. Theres more to life than Lisa! Im not yelling at any one person, because frankly, this whole thread is pissing me off! Im sorry I even posted in this thing a few days ago!!! If you have a comment about Lisa or whoever, state it if someone else doesnt like it, tell them to get over it!!!!
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Oh my freaking God! Would you all just shut up already?! I don't give a damn if I piss any of you off. Holy crap, why are you all taking it so personally? "Waah waah waah! People on an internet message board are saying mean things about Lisa Whelchel. Waah waah waah!" Oh boo-freakin'-hoo. Cry me a river, build me a bridge and jump off of it.

It's OVER! Blair's My Cherry Pie, it was totally unecessary for you to bring this subject up again. TJ closed the post. It's finished. Done. SO JUST FORGET ABOUT IT!!!!!!!
Well said, my friend, very well said. Why do any of you even give a f*ck what we say? None of it matters. If you believe in something, then dont let morg, or me, or anyone get in your way. You people need to get a life and stop bein so hung up about what we say about Lisa. We all have different opinions, but some of yall just cant let it go.
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I was trying to let this whole thing pass me by but, I can no longer ingore it. As a person rasied in a home were spankings were rare but, there was no doubt that if you needed one you got it and i mean with a belt on the backside, my parent's did not belive in abuse by no means . I was also rasied in a christan home with good morals and things and saved young. I agree with Lisa that right and wrong must be taught and i agree that sometimes spankings are the only way they can be taught. I also know that as a young woman that in the future when I have children all of you are going to need the phone number and address of my local DSS and mine becouse when all is said and done I will be spanking my child.
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I was trying to let this whole thing pass me by but, I can no longer ingore it. As a person rasied in a home were spankings were rare but, there was no doubt that if you needed one you got it and i mean with a belt on the backside, my parent's did not belive in abuse by no means . I was also rasied in a christan home with good morals and things and saved young. I agree with Lisa that right and wrong must be taught and i agree that sometimes spankings are the only way they can be taught. I also know that as a young woman that in the future when I have children all of you are going to need the phone number and address of my local DSS and mine becouse when all is said and done I will be spanking my child.
Well IMO hitting a kid or anyone with a belt is abuse. I was never spanked. Mom hit me on the leg once because... I dont remember why. So i hit her back, and is she ever "spanked" me with a belt or with her hands you can be damn sure id fight back. i have respect for her. I didn't hit her hard at all. Just too let her know that that was something that would not be happening. personally, whenever she goes to do something like that It makes me get loud and scream and freak out. it's a good thing she doesn;t spank me for her sake... I have sorta anger management i think... Im always mad at someone. haha.

Im catholic by the way. Goin to catholic school. Just because I think LW is a stoopid freek doesn't mean i like hate jesus or anything. So **** you "Blair's up my Red as Cherries Spanked Raw Ass"!!!!!
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