Audio of Dick York saying he was in love with Elizabeth Montgomery - Page 2 - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Arfies · 08-25-2021, 09:27 AM

I think it was a stream-of-consciousness book that he intended to edit later, because he *straight-up says so* in it. He muses calling Liz and offers to cut that part out.

However, it was published posthumously, so obviously that didn't happen.

Monliz · 08-25-2021, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Arfies

I think it was a stream-of-consciousness book that he intended to edit later, because he *straight-up says so* in it. He muses calling Liz and offers to cut that part out.

However, it was published posthumously, so obviously that didn't happen.

As I said before, even if it's true that York didn't want this part to be published in his memoir, means absolutely nothing, why did he say those things in the first place then?

For example, if you have a close friend, and he's been recorded saying bad things about you and your family, and then he tells you he didn't want that recording to be heard by anybody, would you still be friends with him after you heard all the bad things he said about you and your family?

Would you keep acting as nothing happened and continue being friends with him, just because he didn't want that recording to be heard?

Come on man, be logical, and don't let your denial get the best of out of you.

Arfies · 08-25-2021, 11:08 AM

Haven't you ever said things in your life you later regretted? Like... ever?

Also, "The Seesaw Girl and Me" wasn't published until long after York and Montgomery were both dead, so she never heard that stuff.

And I'm not a man.

Monliz · 08-25-2021, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Arfies

Haven't you ever said things in your life you later regretted? Like... ever?

Also, "The Seesaw Girl and Me" wasn't published until long after York and Montgomery were both dead, so she never heard that stuff.

And I'm not a man.

Oh, so York knew Liz was going to die because of cancer? he knew that by the date the book gets published Liz was going to be dead already?

Arfies · 08-25-2021, 11:38 AM

This is like trying to explain things to a brick wall, but here we go.

Have you even bothered reading his entire book, or do you just complain about that one part again and again and again and again for all eternity? That dead horse isn't just beaten; it's a pile of pulp.

If you did bother to read the rest of the (dictated) book, you'd know that he narrated it in 1985. In it, he muses cutting that part out. But it wasn't published, and thusly, he never edited it. He died in 1992. Montgomery died in 1995. "The Seesaw Girl and Me" wasn't published until 2004.

But why read a book for context when you can keep compulsively posting the same passage over and over on a random online message board instead of, like, going outside?

Arfies · 08-25-2021, 12:50 PM

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This was from the original tapes Dick York recorded his thoughts on for his planned autobiography. A copy, most likely, that York let a certain author borrow when this person claimed they could help York get it published, but never did. Then this author tried to sell copies of the tapes to private collectors for $15,000 each behind York's back. I know this because this author offered to sell me a copy way before Claudia Kuehl (a true friend of the York's) was able to really publish York's book.

York initially wasn't sure he would even keep this part in, but Claudia released everything into the book as is. These were his memories of "falling in love" with Liz, and you can see the chemistry between them onscreen. Bill Asher admitted that he thought York was better as Darrin because "they (York and Elizabeth) were in love and they acted like it."

York mentions in the book that his feelings about falling in love with Liz were private and something he'd check with her on before he released a book (they were both alive at the time):

"This is the kind of sh*t that they use to sell books. This is the kind of private, inside stuff that they like to take quotes out of and splash on headlines and put on supermarkets, and use old pictures or...Oh, Lizzie, rather than have that happen, we may cut all this out. I may have to call you, Liz. I may have to call ya."

As demonstrated here York certainly called out "supermarket tabloid sensationalism." York's book is really quite sweet and touching. Falling in love with Elizabeth and his own wife (whom he never cheated on, BTW) is about a romanticized kind of love which is all through the book. Much of the book is a kind of stream of consciousness thing about life and love and feelings.

Incidentally, Bernie Kopell said "Everybody had a crush on Elizabeth Montgomery. Everybody had a crush on her. She was delicious. She was provocative." - the first sentence he says here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUOk_0CbIz4

Out of curiosity, who was this author?

Monliz · 08-25-2021, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Arfies

This is like trying to explain things to a brick wall, but here we go.

Have you even bothered reading his entire book, or do you just complain about that one part again and again and again and again for all eternity? That dead horse isn't just beaten; it's a pile of pulp.

If you did bother to read the rest of the (dictated) book, you'd know that he narrated it in 1985. In it, he muses cutting that part out. But it wasn't published, and thusly, he never edited it. He died in 1992. Montgomery died in 1995. "The Seesaw Girl and Me" wasn't published until 2004.

But why read a book for context when you can keep compulsively posting the same passage over and over on a random online message board instead of, like, going outside?

The thing is York didn't know that Liz would be dead when the book got published, so he disrespected Liz and her husband by talking about her like she was a sexual object.

And there's nothing out of context here, York said what he said, he talked about how hot her legs and leaps were, he also talked about her hair, he even said Liz was "sex all over", this is gross and clasless.

You don't like that people call York creepy and a perv? well, York himself proved he was creepy and a perv, so deall with it

Willbo · 08-25-2021, 02:54 PM

Arfies, this is how Monliz has been for a long time. He/she only talks about DY and his "obsession" with EM. I believe if it was a bad as Monliz thinks that William Asher would have made sure DY was gone way before season 5. WA has never that I can tell said anything bad about DY.

It's obvious by Monliz's responses that he/she has never read the book, only passages. Monliz's obsession with the topic is a sickening as Monliz claims DY was.

Monliz · 08-25-2021, 02:59 PM

How come Liz and Sargent were good friends in the 1990s but she and York weren't?

How come Liz commented Sargent's deadh, but kept silent when York died?

After watching this video and how creepy York is while talking about Liz, the answer to those those question are obvious.

Monliz · 08-25-2021, 03:01 PM

William Asher cheated on Liz with other women in more than one ocasion, so...

Willbo · 08-25-2021, 03:05 PM

It's also been said that EM cheated on WA.

Willbo · 08-25-2021, 03:07 PM

Interesting.

According to harpiesbizarre.com/faq.htm:

Elizabeth Montgomery and Dick York, who played the original Darrin, got along quite well and their chemistry was part of the reason for the success of the show.

When York took ill and Sargent replaced him in the 6th season, it was difficult for him and he was uncomfortable at first, but even with a differing style, Montgomery came to love the second Darrin as well.

Monliz · 08-25-2021, 03:14 PM

Liz only cheated on William Asher once she caugh William cheating on her.

And why didn't you answer the other questions?

How come Liz and Sargent were good friends in the 1990s but she and York weren't?

How come Liz commented Sargent's death, but kept silent when York died?

Why did Liz never returm York's calls when he called her in his last years before he died?

Come on Wilbo, answer these questions

Monliz · 08-25-2021, 03:25 PM

In the interview with Pilato, Liz talked about Sargent but she didn't talk about York.

Pilato posted the audio of Liz saying Dick Sargent was terrific.

However there isn't a single audio in the whole internet of Liz prasing York, why is this Willbo?

Willbo · 08-25-2021, 03:32 PM

Why would I answer those questions? You are only focused on one thing on this board and that is spewing hatred toward DY, a dead man. Rarely do you comment on anything else that is positive toward the show.

Most of the posters on this board love the show and comment positively about it. Like anything in life, there is the good, bad and ugly. Most just prefer to look at the good. The people that were involved can no longer speak for themselves as they are no longer with us. I believe that EM, DY, DS and WA were all good people but humans as well with flaws. Leave the past in the past. None of us were there and we will never know the whole story.

08-25-2021, 09:27 AM	#16
Arfies Memberific Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 29, 2001 Location: There beneath the blue suburban skies, in summer, meanwhile back.... Posts: 481	I think it was a stream-of-consciousness book that he intended to edit later, because he straight-up says so in it. He muses calling Liz and offers to cut that part out. However, it was published posthumously, so obviously that didn't happen.

08-25-2021, 11:08 AM	#18
Arfies Memberific Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 29, 2001 Location: There beneath the blue suburban skies, in summer, meanwhile back.... Posts: 481	Haven't you ever said things in your life you later regretted? Like... ever? Also, "The Seesaw Girl and Me" wasn't published until long after York and Montgomery were both dead, so she never heard that stuff. And I'm not a man.

08-25-2021, 11:38 AM	#20
Arfies Memberific Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 29, 2001 Location: There beneath the blue suburban skies, in summer, meanwhile back.... Posts: 481	This is like trying to explain things to a brick wall, but here we go. Have you even bothered reading his entire book, or do you just complain about that one part again and again and again and again for all eternity? That dead horse isn't just beaten; it's a pile of pulp. If you did bother to read the rest of the (dictated) book, you'd know that he narrated it in 1985. In it, he muses cutting that part out. But it wasn't published, and thusly, he never edited it. He died in 1992. Montgomery died in 1995. "The Seesaw Girl and Me" wasn't published until 2004. But why read a book for context when you can keep compulsively posting the same passage over and over on a random online message board instead of, like, going outside?

08-25-2021, 02:54 PM	#23
Willbo Member Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 10, 2012 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 863	Arfies, this is how Monliz has been for a long time. He/she only talks about DY and his "obsession" with EM. I believe if it was a bad as Monliz thinks that William Asher would have made sure DY was gone way before season 5. WA has never that I can tell said anything bad about DY. It's obvious by Monliz's responses that he/she has never read the book, only passages. Monliz's obsession with the topic is a sickening as Monliz claims DY was.

08-25-2021, 02:59 PM	#24
Monliz Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 26, 2019 Location: Miami Posts: 253	How come Liz and Sargent were good friends in the 1990s but she and York weren't? How come Liz commented Sargent's deadh, but kept silent when York died? After watching this video and how creepy York is while talking about Liz, the answer to those those question are obvious.

08-25-2021, 03:01 PM	#25
Monliz Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 26, 2019 Location: Miami Posts: 253	William Asher cheated on Liz with other women in more than one ocasion, so...

08-25-2021, 03:05 PM	#26
Willbo Member Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 10, 2012 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 863	It's also been said that EM cheated on WA.

08-25-2021, 03:07 PM	#27
Willbo Member Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 10, 2012 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 863	Interesting. According to harpiesbizarre.com/faq.htm: Elizabeth Montgomery and Dick York, who played the original Darrin, got along quite well and their chemistry was part of the reason for the success of the show. When York took ill and Sargent replaced him in the 6th season, it was difficult for him and he was uncomfortable at first, but even with a differing style, Montgomery came to love the second Darrin as well.

08-25-2021, 03:14 PM	#28
Monliz Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 26, 2019 Location: Miami Posts: 253	Liz only cheated on William Asher once she caugh William cheating on her. And why didn't you answer the other questions? How come Liz and Sargent were good friends in the 1990s but she and York weren't? How come Liz commented Sargent's death, but kept silent when York died? Why did Liz never returm York's calls when he called her in his last years before he died? Come on Wilbo, answer these questions

08-25-2021, 03:25 PM	#29
Monliz Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 26, 2019 Location: Miami Posts: 253	In the interview with Pilato, Liz talked about Sargent but she didn't talk about York. Pilato posted the audio of Liz saying Dick Sargent was terrific. However there isn't a single audio in the whole internet of Liz prasing York, why is this Willbo?

08-25-2021, 03:32 PM	#30
Willbo Member Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 10, 2012 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 863	Why would I answer those questions? You are only focused on one thing on this board and that is spewing hatred toward DY, a dead man. Rarely do you comment on anything else that is positive toward the show. Most of the posters on this board love the show and comment positively about it. Like anything in life, there is the good, bad and ugly. Most just prefer to look at the good. The people that were involved can no longer speak for themselves as they are no longer with us. I believe that EM, DY, DS and WA were all good people but humans as well with flaws. Leave the past in the past. None of us were there and we will never know the whole story.