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1960'sTVfan · 08-03-2017, 02:37 PM

There must be some restoration/color work going on with the season 3 episodes because I've noticed a change in some of these episodes compared to when Antenna ran them before. For example, in one of the episodes today, Abby Dalton wore a purple dress, but her dress was red when Antenna previously ran the episode. So red was obviously the original color of the dress, but whoever did the colorization work decided to make it purple.

And Abby was given a bright red lipstick color, it looks terrible.

And the stage where Joey does his "TV show", the color of that was changed too, the background was originally a gold color but in the "restored" version the background is green.

I can understand that the color episodes of this series needed some work because the color did tend to look on the pale and flat side. But whoever did the work on these should at least stick with what the colors were originally and not change them around. Makes it look fake and artificial.

Hazel Anyday · 08-03-2017, 07:00 PM

Joey hasn't been colorized, unfortunately, the color episodes you see were filmed in color. Now if they ever show the b/w season of episodes in color, then you can tell me they're colorized. Would be happy to hear that.

1960'sTVfan · 08-03-2017, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hazel Anyday

Joey hasn't been colorized, unfortunately, the color episodes you see were filmed in color. Now if they ever show the b/w season of episodes in color, then you can tell me they're colorized. Would be happy to hear that.

I don't think you understood my post, I know season 3 of Joey's show was filmed in color, but it looks like some work regarding the color must be going on with the episodes because I've noticed differences in the color with some season 3 episodes airing now compared to when Antenna ran them before. I don't know how else to explain it, but the difference is noticeable.

Season 4 of the show is all in black and white. Season 1 is black and white except for five episodes. When Antenna TV ran the 1st season, five episodes were in color. I believe this is how it was originally done, NBC filmed five 1st season episodes in color.

Hazel Anyday · 08-04-2017, 08:20 PM

Sounds like someone's been "color tuning" or refining the old color versions then. I stopped watching when I got done recording the program, but if they're re-doing the color it might be interesting to see record them again. Are all the color episodes you've seen so far (now) re-color tuned or have just some old color episodes been re-furbished. I'd definitely record again if all color episodes have been re-done.

1960'sTVfan · 08-05-2017, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hazel Anyday

Sounds like someone's been "color tuning" or refining the old color versions then. I stopped watching when I got done recording the program, but if they're re-doing the color it might be interesting to see record them again. Are all the color episodes you've seen so far (now) re-color tuned or have just some old color episodes been re-furbished. I'd definitely record again if all color episodes have been re-done.

Two season 3 episodes that have a different look to the color are episode 4- Danny Thomas Gives Joey Advice, and episode 19- Joey The Comedian vs. Larry The Writer. There might be more but I'm not sure, I no longer watch every day since I also have all the episodes already recorded.

I had to re-record episode 4- the Danny Thomas episode because when I recorded it previously there were some technical issues with the telecast. So when I recorded it again a few weeks ago, I thought the color looked different and when I compared it to my prior recording of the episode, sure enough the difference was obvious.

So as you said, yes it looks like some season 3 episodes have been color tuned/re-furbished. Maybe they'll eventually re-do them all, I don't know, so far I've seen just those two that look different.

1960'sTVfan · 08-05-2017, 08:43 AM

I just remembered, the episode with Phil Foster and Leo Durocher has some color enhancements also.

1960'sTVfan · 06-07-2018, 01:20 PM

Well I think I'm done recording The Joey Bishop Show from Antenna TV, all episodes are in good shape now, I've re-recorded the shows that had some technical problems the first time I recorded them.

Maybe one day a decent DVD studio will release the series properly with uncut episodes. If not, I have Questar's season 2 DVD and my homemade DVD's of seasons 1, 3 and 4 from Antenna TV.

Hazel Anyday · 06-07-2018, 11:40 PM

You mean as good as Antenna TV got, the whip cream and the orange juice is still green, I presume. Antenna hasn't restored them. Though if you figured out which of the few episodes Antenna did show an improved color version over the one the originally first showed, that information would be helpful. I recorded the whole series also when Antenna first started showing it. But I've read here that some episodes the color changed on later repeated showings and it was improved. If I knew which episodes have had their color fixed I'd record just those again off Antenna.

1960'sTVfan · 06-08-2018, 10:41 AM

Here are some 3rd season episodes that have been color re-furbished:

Episode 4, with Danny Thomas as guest star.
Episode 14, with Vic Damone as guest star.
Episode 17, with Phil Foster and Leo Durocher as guest stars.
Episode 19, titled "Joey The Comedian vs. Larry The Writer."

With episode 19, Joey's wife Ellie is wearing a red dress. But when the episode was color re-furbished, some nut ball decided to change the color of her dress to purple.

I have both versions recorded, I like the original one better where her dress is red.

And here are four more 3rd season episodes that have been color re-furbished:

Episode 1, titled "The Baby's First Day."
Episode 15, titled "Joey's Hideaway Cabin."
Episode 24, with Al Fisher and Lou Marks as guest stars.
Episode 30, with Milton Berle as guest star.

So altogether, eight episodes from the 3rd season have been color re-furbished. But as far as I'm concerned, the only one that needed re-furbishing is episode 14, with Vic Damone as guest star. When Antenna TV first ran this episode, the colors didn't look too good. The other seven look fine to me and I prefer the original prints over the re-furbished ones.

08-03-2017, 07:00 PM	#17
Hazel Anyday Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 12, 2002 Posts: 2,131	Color not colorized Joey hasn't been colorized, unfortunately, the color episodes you see were filmed in color. Now if they ever show the b/w season of episodes in color, then you can tell me they're colorized. Would be happy to hear that.
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08-04-2017, 08:20 PM	#19
Hazel Anyday Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 12, 2002 Posts: 2,131	A dab of peach a dash of violet and a hint of aqua Sounds like someone's been "color tuning" or refining the old color versions then. I stopped watching when I got done recording the program, but if they're re-doing the color it might be interesting to see record them again. Are all the color episodes you've seen so far (now) re-color tuned or have just some old color episodes been re-furbished. I'd definitely record again if all color episodes have been re-done.

06-07-2018, 11:40 PM	#23
Hazel Anyday Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 12, 2002 Posts: 2,131	Color? You mean as good as Antenna TV got, the whip cream and the orange juice is still green, I presume. Antenna hasn't restored them. Though if you figured out which of the few episodes Antenna did show an improved color version over the one the originally first showed, that information would be helpful. I recorded the whole series also when Antenna first started showing it. But I've read here that some episodes the color changed on later repeated showings and it was improved. If I knew which episodes have had their color fixed I'd record just those again off Antenna.

06-08-2018, 10:41 AM	#24
1960'sTVfan Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 30, 2009 Posts: 6,045	Here are some 3rd season episodes that have been color re-furbished: Episode 4, with Danny Thomas as guest star. Episode 14, with Vic Damone as guest star. Episode 17, with Phil Foster and Leo Durocher as guest stars. Episode 19, titled "Joey The Comedian vs. Larry The Writer." With episode 19, Joey's wife Ellie is wearing a red dress. But when the episode was color re-furbished, some nut ball decided to change the color of her dress to purple. I have both versions recorded, I like the original one better where her dress is red. And here are four more 3rd season episodes that have been color re-furbished: Episode 1, titled "The Baby's First Day." Episode 15, titled "Joey's Hideaway Cabin." Episode 24, with Al Fisher and Lou Marks as guest stars. Episode 30, with Milton Berle as guest star. So altogether, eight episodes from the 3rd season have been color re-furbished. But as far as I'm concerned, the only one that needed re-furbishing is episode 14, with Vic Damone as guest star. When Antenna TV first ran this episode, the colors didn't look too good. The other seven look fine to me and I prefer the original prints over the re-furbished ones.
	Last edited by 1960'sTVfan; 06-13-2018 at 09:28 AM.

08-03-2017, 02:37 PM	#16
1960'sTVfan Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 30, 2009 Posts: 6,045	There must be some restoration/color work going on with the season 3 episodes because I've noticed a change in some of these episodes compared to when Antenna ran them before. For example, in one of the episodes today, Abby Dalton wore a purple dress, but her dress was red when Antenna previously ran the episode. So red was obviously the original color of the dress, but whoever did the colorization work decided to make it purple. And Abby was given a bright red lipstick color, it looks terrible. And the stage where Joey does his "TV show", the color of that was changed too, the background was originally a gold color but in the "restored" version the background is green. I can understand that the color episodes of this series needed some work because the color did tend to look on the pale and flat side. But whoever did the work on these should at least stick with what the colors were originally and not change them around. Makes it look fake and artificial.

08-05-2017, 08:43 AM	#21
1960'sTVfan Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 30, 2009 Posts: 6,045	I just remembered, the episode with Phil Foster and Leo Durocher has some color enhancements also.

06-07-2018, 01:20 PM	#22
1960'sTVfan Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 30, 2009 Posts: 6,045	Well I think I'm done recording The Joey Bishop Show from Antenna TV, all episodes are in good shape now, I've re-recorded the shows that had some technical problems the first time I recorded them. Maybe one day a decent DVD studio will release the series properly with uncut episodes. If not, I have Questar's season 2 DVD and my homemade DVD's of seasons 1, 3 and 4 from Antenna TV.