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MJFfan · 03-01-2002, 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by FamilyTiesFan

Why is abortion evil?

Ummm.... because it's MURDER....

~Tropical Punch 19~ · 03-01-2002, 09:59 PM

Okay, abortion is wrong becasue it is killing an innocent life that hasn't even had a chance to live life. If a mother doesn't want the baby she should put it up for adoption that way the baby can live a life. Every human being deserves a chance. Oh and about the prayer at school thing. i think it is right. What we do at our school is the kids organize prayer at the pole every wednesday morning. A lot of people go. If it is organized by the kids and they are willing to do it then it is not wrong. We also have a moment of silence. Wich i also believe is right because it gives kids of any religion to pray to their god or if they are not religious at all they can just sit there patiently.

Janice · 03-02-2002, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by hofverberg
Am I the only one failing to see the connection between this subject and Family Ties...?

No, I was wondering the same thing.

At last, we agree!

FamilyTiesFan · 03-02-2002, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by LilNanFan
Okay, abortion is wrong becasue it is killing an innocent life that hasn't even had a chance to live life. If a mother doesn't want the baby she should put it up for adoption that way the baby can live a life. Every human being deserves a chance. Oh and about the prayer at school thing. i think it is right. What we do at our school is the kids organize prayer at the pole every wednesday morning. A lot of people go. If it is organized by the kids and they are willing to do it then it is not wrong. We also have a moment of silence. Wich i also believe is right because it gives kids of any religion to pray to their god or if they are not religious at all they can just sit there patiently.

Well, I agree in the ideal situation there would be no abortions. But it is not realistic to say that the baby should be put up for adoption because if all the mothers that get abortions instead put their babies up for abortion, there would be nowhere near enough orphanage space, there is already a lack of it. So it would require increasing taxes to get more money for orphanages which Democrats are fine with but Republicans won't do. It is not murder because there is an overpopulation problem in many country. What is better, that child never having been born, or not having any opportunities in life and having to beg on the streets?

~Tropical Punch 19~ · 03-02-2002, 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by FamilyTiesFan

Well, I agree in the ideal situation there would be no abortions. But it is not realistic to say that the baby should be put up for adoption because if all the mothers that get abortions instead put their babies up for abortion, there would be nowhere near enough orphanage space, there is already a lack of it. So it would require increasing taxes to get more money for orphanages which Democrats are fine with but Republicans won't do. It is not murder because there is an overpopulation problem in many country. What is better, that child never having been born, or not having any opportunities in life and having to beg on the streets?

Well not all babies that are put up for adoption go straight to an orphange. Lots of people adopt babies right when they are born soemtimes before the babie is born too. There is also a thing called fostercare. Besides while the baby is in the womb it is alive and you hurt it and murder it if you abort it.

~Tropical Punch 19~ · 03-02-2002, 05:29 PM

WEll hoveburg and Janlady I origannly posted this to relate to the fact that alex is a republican so i though this would be interesting to see peoples diffrent political views since Family Ties is based around that. I did not relieze that it would get this deep and start shifting into another topic all toghther. But i LOVE talking about this stuff i find it very interesting. So in some snese it does relate to family ties. Alex would have LOVED this post lol!

FamilyTiesFan · 03-02-2002, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by LilNanFan

Well not all babies that are put up for adoption go straight to an orphange. Lots of people adopt babies right when they are born soemtimes before the babie is born too. There is also a thing called fostercare. Besides while the baby is in the womb it is alive and you hurt it and murder it if you abort it.

Yes, but many of those kids are shuffled between different foster homes, and grow up in poverty. A lot of those kids could develop psychological problems. And this is in countries such as the US. I was also referring to third-world countries. In some of those countries the overpopulation problem is a much bigger deal than in the US. There is no foster care and very poor conditions in orphanages there. It is not murder because under Roe vs. Wade abortion is only allowed during the first three months. All I am saying is this, abortion is a personal choice that is sometimes a very good thing and the government should leave it up to the mother and not interfere.

~Tropical Punch 19~ · 03-02-2002, 08:20 PM

well women should get pregnant in the first place if they don't want kids!!! (unless it was a rape) Lot's of teens get abortions but if they didn't do it in the first palce than there would be no need to even consider abortion!

FamilyTiesFan · 03-02-2002, 08:42 PM

Like I said before in the ideal situation you would be right. But let's face it, a lot of women are going to get pregnant even if they don't want kids. So abortion is the best way to deal with the problem. If you just say that those women should not have gotten pregnant in the first place and leave it at that, you are ignoring the problem and therefore making it worse. The only other solution would be the government educating people which is what Bush wants, but that would be a lot more expensive and it is not clear how effective that would be

GoldenFamilyTies · 03-02-2002, 09:21 PM

If only we had a society with morals here in the U.S...

FamilyTiesFan · 03-02-2002, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by GoldenFamilyTies
If only we had a society with morals here in the U.S...

For the most part don't we?

GoldenFamilyTies · 03-03-2002, 01:25 AM

Not really. Just look at most of the jokes they use in sitcoms today. I mean, they can't seem to stay funny without turning to sexual content. Just look at why abortion is so high in the first place, and that's girls getting pregnant.

Michael Cross · 03-03-2002, 03:58 AM

I am a full-blooded republican. One reason I am a republican is because George Bush is a republican and he's from Texas, and I was born and raised in Texas. Alex has a picture of Nixon by his bed; that's the way I feel about Bush and Bush Jr. The major reason I am republican, though, is because this political party supports my moral values. I have to agree totally with GoldenFamilyTies- if only we had a moral society in the U.S.

ftfan · 03-03-2002, 11:57 AM

<If only we had a society with morals here in the U.S...>

Couldn't aggree more! Our society is so corrupt today! I mean, u cant even turn on the TV for more than five minutes, and normally there is something immoral or corrupt on a comercial or someting! I think it is really sad! And I aggree with, well whoever it was taht said girls shouldn't be getting pregnant in the first place (unless it is rape which they cant help)! Why can't people just WAIT??? Neway, just my thoughts, and also, yeah, I think ALex would have LUVED to post on this topic! hehe! I would have luved to have read what he would say!

Well, enough from me!

Republicans RULE!!!!!!!!

Alexis

MJFfan · 03-03-2002, 01:20 PM

I haven't had time to read all these long posts on abortion. However, personally, if somebody doesn't want a baby they shouldn't... have one. Unless, as ftfan said, it is rape. In that case I still think that life is more important then all this democratic jabber. At one point just for fun, I wrote a pretend letter against abortion. If anybody woiuld like me to post it, please say so.

03-02-2002, 08:42 PM	#24
FamilyTiesFan Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 21, 2001 Location: WA Posts: 142	Like I said before in the ideal situation you would be right. But let's face it, a lot of women are going to get pregnant even if they don't want kids. So abortion is the best way to deal with the problem. If you just say that those women should not have gotten pregnant in the first place and leave it at that, you are ignoring the problem and therefore making it worse. The only other solution would be the government educating people which is what Bush wants, but that would be a lot more expensive and it is not clear how effective that would be
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03-03-2002, 11:57 AM	#29
ftfan A young Republican!! Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 04, 2002 Location: DE Posts: 69	<If only we had a society with morals here in the U.S...> Couldn't aggree more! Our society is so corrupt today! I mean, u cant even turn on the TV for more than five minutes, and normally there is something immoral or corrupt on a comercial or someting! I think it is really sad! And I aggree with, well whoever it was taht said girls shouldn't be getting pregnant in the first place (unless it is rape which they cant help)! Why can't people just WAIT??? Neway, just my thoughts, and also, yeah, I think ALex would have LUVED to post on this topic! hehe! I would have luved to have read what he would say! Well, enough from me! Republicans RULE!!!!!!!! Alexis
	__________________ A big fan of Alex P. Keaton!

03-03-2002, 01:20 PM	#30
MJFfan I love Family Ties! Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 01, 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 324	Abortion I haven't had time to read all these long posts on abortion. However, personally, if somebody doesn't want a baby they shouldn't... have one. Unless, as ftfan said, it is rape. In that case I still think that life is more important then all this democratic jabber. At one point just for fun, I wrote a pretend letter against abortion. If anybody woiuld like me to post it, please say so.

03-01-2002, 09:59 PM	#17
~Tropical Punch 19~ Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 19, 2001 Location: I'm a fly on Clay's wall Posts: 1,961	Okay, abortion is wrong becasue it is killing an innocent life that hasn't even had a chance to live life. If a mother doesn't want the baby she should put it up for adoption that way the baby can live a life. Every human being deserves a chance. Oh and about the prayer at school thing. i think it is right. What we do at our school is the kids organize prayer at the pole every wednesday morning. A lot of people go. If it is organized by the kids and they are willing to do it then it is not wrong. We also have a moment of silence. Wich i also believe is right because it gives kids of any religion to pray to their god or if they are not religious at all they can just sit there patiently.

03-02-2002, 05:29 PM	#21
~Tropical Punch 19~ Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 19, 2001 Location: I'm a fly on Clay's wall Posts: 1,961	WEll hoveburg and Janlady I origannly posted this to relate to the fact that alex is a republican so i though this would be interesting to see peoples diffrent political views since Family Ties is based around that. I did not relieze that it would get this deep and start shifting into another topic all toghther. But i LOVE talking about this stuff i find it very interesting. So in some snese it does relate to family ties. Alex would have LOVED this post lol!

03-02-2002, 08:20 PM	#23
~Tropical Punch 19~ Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 19, 2001 Location: I'm a fly on Clay's wall Posts: 1,961	well women should get pregnant in the first place if they don't want kids!!! (unless it was a rape) Lot's of teens get abortions but if they didn't do it in the first palce than there would be no need to even consider abortion!

03-02-2002, 09:21 PM	#25
GoldenFamilyTies Por siempre tú Senior Member Join Date: Jan 15, 2002 Location: United States Posts: 1,329	If only we had a society with morals here in the U.S...

03-03-2002, 01:25 AM	#27
GoldenFamilyTies Por siempre tú Senior Member Join Date: Jan 15, 2002 Location: United States Posts: 1,329	Not really. Just look at most of the jokes they use in sitcoms today. I mean, they can't seem to stay funny without turning to sexual content. Just look at why abortion is so high in the first place, and that's girls getting pregnant.

03-03-2002, 03:58 AM	#28
Michael Cross Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 05, 2002 Location: California Posts: 28	I am a full-blooded republican. One reason I am a republican is because George Bush is a republican and he's from Texas, and I was born and raised in Texas. Alex has a picture of Nixon by his bed; that's the way I feel about Bush and Bush Jr. The major reason I am republican, though, is because this political party supports my moral values. I have to agree totally with GoldenFamilyTies- if only we had a moral society in the U.S.