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TJL · 10-03-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

This is likely what network executives thought:
A) Matt LeBlanc is on Friends.
B) Friends is funny.
C) A+B means Matt LeBlanc is funny.
D) Let's give Matt LeBlanc his own show, for it will be funny.

The problem with this line of reasoning, however, is that the third proposition is false. Hence, the entire thing instantly breaks down. Taking Joey out of New York City and away from his comic foils (especially Chandler), then moving him to Los Angeles and pitting him against his 20-year-old dorky nephew and Adriana from The Sopranos removed all the cute, clueless charm that made his character so lovable in the first place.

I'm sorry, I don't think Joey was a total disaster. Friends had a billion viewers for crying out loud, how can any show live up to that?

The idea of a spinoff is to take one or two characters and move them away from the other characters.

So no **** that the show isn't going to be as strong!

By this logic, The Golden Palace should have been a bigger hit, since 75% of the cast of the Golden Girls were in the spinoff!

vtunie · 10-05-2008, 04:20 PM

These lists are always so utterly predictable. And pointless. Because they list not the worst spinoffs but the least successful ones.

AfterMASH was a gem. I don't know how accurate it was in portraying small-town USA and middle Americans in the immediate aftermath of the Korean War, but it felt really authentic somehow. Harry Morgan, William Christopher and Jamie Farr were far better in it than they were in the original. I LOVED Alan Alda in M*A*S*H, and the overt politics especially, but Potter, Mulcahy, and Klinger without Hawkeye were so fantastically human.

And The Ropers is doomed to be on the list in any case, not just because it was a spinoff of something stuffed shirts have never understood, but especially because it was a black comedy -- almost inconceivable on American TV. There was real art in the way Helen and Stanley couldn't stand and yet loved each other. But we're going off the deep end here...

In any case, whenever I see a list like this, I know ahead of time what is going to be on it, and the tired, facile, superficial and essentially worthless reasons given.

70s show watcher · 10-05-2008, 05:21 PM

i rteally didnt think after mash was too bad during season 1 but of course the network got involved and took away whatever charm and meerit the show had and made an awful mess of season 2

TVFactFan · 10-05-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vtunie

These lists are always so utterly predictable. And pointless. Because they list not the worst spinoffs but the least successful ones.

AfterMASH was a gem. I don't know how accurate it was in portraying small-town USA and middle Americans in the immediate aftermath of the Korean War, but it felt really authentic somehow. Harry Morgan, William Christopher and Jamie Farr were far better in it than they were in the original. I LOVED Alan Alda in M*A*S*H, and the overt politics especially, but Potter, Mulcahy, and Klinger without Hawkeye were so fantastically human.

And The Ropers is doomed to be on the list in any case, not just because it was a spinoff of something stuffed shirts have never understood, but especially because it was a black comedy -- almost inconceivable on American TV. There was real art in the way Helen and Stanley couldn't stand and yet loved each other. But we're going off the deep end here...

In any case, whenever I see a list like this, I know ahead of time what is going to be on it, and the tired, facile, superficial and essentially worthless reasons given.

GREAT POST, best TV post I ever saw and you are exactly right. It is so conveinet to select the spinoffs that was ONE YEAR wonders and I'm still surprised the spinoff FLO wasn't on the list. Maybe because it on the air 18 months, instead of 12-lol

vtunie · 10-05-2008, 06:25 PM

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GREAT POST, best TV post I ever saw and you are exactly right. It is so conveinet to select the spinoffs that was ONE YEAR wonders and I'm still surprised the spinoff FLO wasn't on the list. Maybe because it on the air 18 months, instead of 12-lol

THANK YOU, Solomon!

TVFactFan · 10-05-2008, 06:30 PM

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THANK YOU, Solomon!

No problem. My selection for the worst spinoff of all time is FLO. That show was just a disaster.

That show was like taking Mike the Bartender off Three's Company and giving him his Own show

Dusty's Fan · 10-05-2008, 07:25 PM

The Time people probably never saw Flo. I vaguely remember watching it; pretty forgettable stuff.

The Ropers had some genuinely funny stuff going on. I would watch it over 95% of the crap the networks are producing right now.

Joanie Loves Chachi was OK, and certainly no worse than some of the run-of-the-mill Happy Days episodes. This is a show that tends to get picked on unfairly, like Bridget Loves Bernie, probably because its title is catchy and the sophisticates remember it when looking for something to dump on.

TVFactFan · 10-05-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty's Fan

The Time people probably never saw Flo. I vaguely remember watching it; pretty forgettable stuff.

The Ropers had some genuinely funny stuff going on. I would watch it over 95% of the crap the networks are producing right now.

Joanie Loves Chachi was OK, and certainly no worse than some of the run-of-the-mill Happy Days episodes. This is a show that tends to get picked on unfairly, like Bridget Loves Bernie, probably because its title is catchy and the sophisticates remember it when looking for something to dump on.

I will take Joanie Loves Chachi over the other HD spinoff-"Mork and Mindy" any day of the week-lol

Brian Damage · 10-05-2008, 07:39 PM

What about Checking In?

TVFactFan · 10-05-2008, 07:42 PM

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What about Checking In?

Well I can't judge because I never saw the show-lol

Brian Damage · 10-05-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillySportsHater

Well I can't judge because I never saw the show-lol

The Art of Being Nick and Jackee sucked too. lol

The Parkers and Open House too.

TVFactFan · 10-05-2008, 08:58 PM

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The Art of Being Nick and Jackee sucked too. lol

The Parkers and Open House too.

I don't think Jackee was that bad, I needed to see more but it was no more-lol

70s show watcher · 10-06-2008, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillySportsHater

No problem. My selection for the worst spinoff of all time is FLO. That show was just a disaster.

That show was like taking Mike the Bartender off Three's Company and giving him his Own show

your right solomon flo was awful

JulieSomoski · 10-06-2008, 06:26 PM

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I don't think Jackee was that bad, I needed to see more but it was no more-lol

Jackee was terrible

She was outstanding on 227, but she got too cocky, and she messed up a good thing.

Never saw Checking In either, but I was thinking about it. It obviously wasn't that bad not to make the list. There were only 4 episodes, though, so its hard to judge on that.

And The Ropers really was not a good show. The first season was okay, but things got old too fast. The Ropers were funny in small doses, as on Three's Company, but they got boring after they got their own show.

TVFactFan · 10-06-2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JulieSomoski

Jackee was terrible

She was outstanding on 227, but she got too cocky, and she messed up a good thing.

Never saw Checking In either, but I was thinking about it. It obviously wasn't that bad not to make the list. There were only 4 episodes, though, so its hard to judge on that.

And The Ropers really was not a good show. The first season was okay, but things got old too fast. The Ropers were funny in small doses, as on Three's Company, but they got boring after they got their own show.

Yeah the Ropers was not good but better than the spinoffs below

Phyllis
Joanie Loves Chachi

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vtunie Member Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 23, 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 592	These lists are always so utterly predictable. And pointless. Because they list not the worst spinoffs but the least successful ones. AfterMASH was a gem. I don't know how accurate it was in portraying small-town USA and middle Americans in the immediate aftermath of the Korean War, but it felt really authentic somehow. Harry Morgan, William Christopher and Jamie Farr were far better in it than they were in the original. I LOVED Alan Alda in MAS*H, and the overt politics especially, but Potter, Mulcahy, and Klinger without Hawkeye were so fantastically human. And The Ropers is doomed to be on the list in any case, not just because it was a spinoff of something stuffed shirts have never understood, but especially because it was a black comedy -- almost inconceivable on American TV. There was real art in the way Helen and Stanley couldn't stand and yet loved each other. But we're going off the deep end here... In any case, whenever I see a list like this, I know ahead of time what is going to be on it, and the tired, facile, superficial and essentially worthless reasons given.

10-05-2008, 05:21 PM	#18
70s show watcher Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: May 20, 2008 Location: between point place and studio 8 h Posts: 4,549	i rteally didnt think after mash was too bad during season 1 but of course the network got involved and took away whatever charm and meerit the show had and made an awful mess of season 2

10-05-2008, 07:25 PM	#22
Dusty's Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 13, 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,092	The Time people probably never saw Flo. I vaguely remember watching it; pretty forgettable stuff. The Ropers had some genuinely funny stuff going on. I would watch it over 95% of the crap the networks are producing right now. Joanie Loves Chachi was OK, and certainly no worse than some of the run-of-the-mill Happy Days episodes. This is a show that tends to get picked on unfairly, like Bridget Loves Bernie, probably because its title is catchy and the sophisticates remember it when looking for something to dump on.