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Ireneparalegal · 05-22-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EmoJoe

it's a lot of little things that become more and more obvious as you watch more...most of it is through the judges. the person the judges favor (it's extremely obvious usually) is usually who the producers favor. it's also a lot of really miniscule things like performance order...the person who performs last ALWAYS gets a huge boost in the voting, and aside from the finale only 2 people in the history of the show have ever performed last and gotten voted off. so if someone performs last a lot that's usually a sign the producers like them (the 2 Davids performed last much more then anyone else this season).

it seems crazy, but the more you watch Idol the more you realize how manipulated it is.

I see. Thank you for that info. I hear on the entertainment news how the judges supposedly show favoritism towards a particular singer but since the judges don't score, I wondered, how does their favoritism even matter in the voting. I think I understand it now.

EmoJoe · 05-22-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

I see. Thank you for that info. I hear on the entertainment news how the judges supposedly show favoritism towards a particular singer but since the judges don't score, I wondered, how does their favoritism even matter in the voting. I think I understand it now.

yeah its not just the judges either, its other stuff too. like...top 3 week, for one round the producers choose a song for each of the 3 contestants. they gave Archuleta and Syesha extremely obscure, weird songs, yet gave David Cook "I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing" by Aerosmith. coincidence? i think not

theshark8777 · 05-22-2008, 07:22 PM

Simon did his best to give it to Archuleta with his knock out remark. I think it was far from a knock out though. That remark may have actually motivated the Cook voters. I think America got it right. But like Simon said, and I pretty much agree, I wouldn't have minded seeing either one win.

Ireneparalegal · 05-22-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by EmoJoe

yeah its not just the judges either, its other stuff too. like...top 3 week, for one round the producers choose a song for each of the 3 contestants. they gave Archuleta and Syesha extremely obscure, weird songs, yet gave David Cook "I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing" by Aerosmith. coincidence? i think not

Do you think they should change the format such as have songs written on paper, put in a box and have the contestants pull the song out rather than have songs chosen for them? Or something like that? Know what I mean?

EmoJoe · 05-22-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by theshark8777

Simon did his best to give it to Archuleta with his knock out remark. I think it was far from a knock out though. That remark may have actually motivated the Cook voters. I think America got it right. But like Simon said, and I pretty much agree, I wouldn't have minded seeing either one win.

yep, i think it was obvious they did that to rile up Cook fans more, especially with Simon's comments on finale night. i thought it was weird Simon was praising Archuleta so much since he never seemed to care for him that much.

EmoJoe · 05-22-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

Do you think they should change the format such as have songs written on paper, put in a box and have the contestants pull the song out rather than have songs chosen for them? Or something like that? Know what I mean?

they actually used to that in Seasons 1 and 2 but they stopped and then changed that round to Clive Davis' choice...then Clive Davis' choice was replaced with producers' chouce. not sure why

Ireneparalegal · 05-22-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EmoJoe

they actually used to that in Seasons 1 and 2 but they stopped and then changed that round to Clive Davis' choice...then Clive Davis' choice was replaced with producers' chouce. not sure why

Oh my, I forgot abt that.

See, I can't even remember what or how it was on season 1.

How abt having each contestant SING THE SAME SONG?

theshark8777 · 05-22-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

Oh my, I forgot abt that.

See, I can't even remember what or how it was on season 1.

How abt having each contestant SING THE SAME SONG?

They did that with Carrie Underwood and Bo Bice, if i recall right.

Cactus Jack · 05-22-2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by EmoJoe

yep, i think it was obvious they did that to rile up Cook fans more, especially with Simon's comments on finale night. i thought it was weird Simon was praising Archuleta so much since he never seemed to care for him that much.

Yeah I thought it was weird too LOL

theshark8777 · 05-22-2008, 07:30 PM

Personally on Finale night, I think they picked the right song for Archuleta and Cook. I think Archuleta played it safe tho singing Imagine.

Cactus Jack · 05-22-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

Oh my, I forgot abt that.

See, I can't even remember what or how it was on season 1.

How abt having each contestant SING THE SAME SONG?

They did that in season 4

Cactus Jack · 05-22-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by EmoJoe

they actually used to that in Seasons 1 and 2 but they stopped and then changed that round to Clive Davis' choice...then Clive Davis' choice was replaced with producers' chouce. not sure why

Not sure either LOL

EmoJoe · 05-22-2008, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by theshark8777

They did that with Carrie Underwood and Bo Bice, if i recall right.

nah, it was Carrie and Anthony Fedorov, and it wasn't on purpose. they just happened to choose the same song.

unless you're referring to Inside Your Heaven, but that was the coronation song.

ANYWAY...having all of them sing the same song would be kinda weird, but it could be interesting too.

Cactus Jack · 05-22-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EmoJoe

nah, it was Carrie and Anthony Fedorov, and it wasn't on purpose. they just happened to choose the same song.

unless you're referring to Inside Your Heaven, but that was the coronation song.

ANYWAY...having all of them sing the same song would be kinda weird, but it could be interesting too.

I think he was referring to Inside Your Heaven, but yeah so there two cases of that that season ,yeah., It laso happened in Season 2 on top 4 night and top 24 this season

Yeah it would be

theshark8777 · 05-22-2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by EmoJoe

nah, it was Carrie and Anthony Fedorov, and it wasn't on purpose. they just happened to choose the same song.

unless you're referring to Inside Your Heaven, but that was the coronation song.

ANYWAY...having all of them sing the same song would be kinda weird, but it could be interesting too.

Yeah inside your heaven. And they still both had to sing it, which was odd. The Davids didnt both sing the coronation song.

05-22-2008, 07:22 PM	#18
theshark8777 Hats for Bats Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 23, 2001 Location: northeast Ohio. Posts: 5,315	Simon did his best to give it to Archuleta with his knock out remark. I think it was far from a knock out though. That remark may have actually motivated the Cook voters. I think America got it right. But like Simon said, and I pretty much agree, I wouldn't have minded seeing either one win.
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05-22-2008, 07:30 PM	#25
theshark8777 Hats for Bats Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 23, 2001 Location: northeast Ohio. Posts: 5,315	Personally on Finale night, I think they picked the right song for Archuleta and Cook. I think Archuleta played it safe tho singing Imagine.