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clj124 · 06-17-2007, 12:45 AM

She is in the Delta Quadrant waiting for Captain Janeway to rescue her. Sorry was to good of an opportunity to pass up.

My guess is that she crashed into the pacfic because of the navigation error from what i remember the segment said she made.

catlover79 · 06-17-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mozartpc27

I think she crashed somewhere in the Pacific, and I doubt what (if anything) is left of her plane will ever be found.

I agree. I doubt if we'll ever know the entire truth.

Mikado · 06-18-2007, 04:36 PM

Emilia had a history of crashes and she had a drunken navigator ( litterally )....no doubt, she ran out of gas, and crashed into the Pacific.

Arnold_OldSchool · 04-08-2008, 05:37 PM

PBS just ran a special last night that confirmed that Amelia and company had a code word for when Noonan (sp?) was drunk

catlover79 · 04-08-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold_OldSchool

PBS just ran a special last night that confirmed that Amelia and company had a code word for when Noonan (sp?) was drunk

I saw about the last 5 minutes of that...it was very interesting and I hope they rerun ir.

Allierain · 04-08-2008, 11:22 PM

I was chatting with a friend of mine about this just last night. We talked about the possibility that Earhart and Noonan were taken prisoner, and perhaps even executed. We also discussed the theory that they both made it to some island and died while waiting to be rescued. But we both settled on the original idea that Earhart and Noonan ran out of fuel and crashed into the Pacific. I doubt any real trace of them will ever be found. If they did indeed crash into the ocean, no trace of them WILL likely be found, ever.

marionstar · 07-07-2008, 05:26 PM

There is not a doubt in my mind that Tighar is right on track and that Amelia Earhart landed/crashed on Nikumoraro on July 2, 1937. Tighar has done excellent research based on facts and scientific methodology and not just speculation, which you can read about on their website: www.tighar.org.

I wish I could find the UM segment on AE because I remember watching it as a kid. Bones were found on Nkumoraro in the early 1940s and Gerald Gallagher, the British rep on the island at the time, thought they may have been AE's because of other things found along with them. The bones were examined and determined to be male of pacific origins. However, forensic scientists have reviewed the original examiners findings and now believe they were female.

The latest trip to Niku turned up some things even more interesting, including what has now been identified as being part of a women's compact and rouge dating from the first half of the 20th century. Earhart was known to carry a compact with her on flights. How else would makeup end up on an island in the Pacific?

I truly believe they will eventually solve this mystery....

The Great One · 07-07-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by marionstar

There is not a doubt in my mind that Tighar is right on track and that Amelia Earhart landed/crashed on Nikumoraro on July 2, 1937. Tighar has done excellent research based on facts and scientific methodology and not just speculation, which you can read about on their website: www.tighar.org.

I wish I could find the UM segment on AE because I remember watching it as a kid. Bones were found on Nkumoraro in the early 1940s and Gerald Gallagher, the British rep on the island at the name, thought they may have been AE's because of other things found along with them. The bones were examined and determined to be male of pacific origins. However, forensic scientists have reviewed the original examiners findings and now believe they were female.

The latest trip to Niku turned up some things even more interesting, including what has now been identified as being part of a women's compact and rouge dating from the first half of the 20th century. Earhart was known to carry a compact with her on flights. How else would makeup end up on an island in the Pacific?

I truly believe they will eventually solve this mystery....

Awesome!!! I didn't know about the TIGHAR website. Thanks for posting the link!

FanfromES · 07-07-2008, 11:17 PM

i barely remember watching this case on 'In Search of' with Leonard Nimoy. Im not sure but i remember they mentioned some photograph of a woman taken in that island. The woman had light-colored hair but the picture didnt show her face.
In those days they believed that woman could be Amelia.

lilmissd · 07-14-2008, 07:14 PM

I think that her and Fred Noonan perished by crashing into the pacific. They were out of gas, and way off course, not near enough to any island for them to land on. And of course no chance of being rescued, the resources in those days were limited at best. If by some small chance they did happen to crash land on some Pacific Island, they would have had limited food and water and most likely injured, they could not have survived very long in those conditions. But I definitely think it's highly unlikely that they crashed landed on an island. I don't think the plane will ever be located, it's too small and the ocean too large, it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack!

Cori aka ChrisSCrush · 07-15-2008, 03:30 AM

Agreed, they cracked up. I don't know if the story shown on Unsolved Mysteries was concocted by several people or pertained to someone else. Any other white women go missing in that area? And what (besides WILD imagination) would account for the report of the plane being found intact?

mike890 · 07-15-2008, 12:04 PM

"PBS just ran a special last night that confirmed that Amelia and company had a code word for when Noonan (sp?) was drunk"

That has always baffled me. Noonan was undoubtedly a great navigator but why would you want a drunk navigating especially on such a dangerous flight. Even when not drinking, alcoholics can have severe lapses in judgement.

mike890 · 07-15-2008, 12:07 PM

On another note I know there a lot of people who think that Amelia would have never have been executed due to her celebrity status. You have to remember the time this took place. Nowadays big news stories can travel the world in minutes. Back then there is a good chance that many of the people on those distant islands had never heard of Amelia Earhart. She and Noonan would have just been strange white people who might possibly be spies. I think she probably crashed but I can assure you if her plane did go down on one of those islands she would have not received a hero's welcome.

Cori aka ChrisSCrush · 07-15-2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mike890

"PBS just ran a special last night that confirmed that Amelia and company had a code word for when Noonan (sp?) was drunk"

That has always baffled me. Noonan was undoubtedly a great navigator but why would you want a drunk navigating especially on such a dangerous flight. Even when not drinking, alcoholics can have severe lapses in judgement.

Yeah, the same episode of American Experience said another guy whose expertise was vital to the flight bailed due to lack of trust in Noonan, so Amelia and Fred had to try to pick up his slack, obviously without success.

marionstar · 07-15-2008, 02:32 PM

According to Tighar, there isn't much factual evidence to indicate Fred Noonan was an alcoholic, only rumors. They've even disproven the idea that he was so hungover on takeoff for the final flight that he had to be helped onto the plane. Noonan was supposed to be one of the best navigators out there.

However, just because there is no hard concrete evidence that he was an alcoholic doesn't mean he wasn't. I tend to believe that Noonan may have been a drinker but the story has been overblown so that someone could take the blame for the Earhart disapearance. I seriously doubt his drinking led to their demise......

07-07-2008, 05:26 PM	#22
marionstar Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 06, 2008 Posts: 8	There is not a doubt in my mind that Tighar is right on track and that Amelia Earhart landed/crashed on Nikumoraro on July 2, 1937. Tighar has done excellent research based on facts and scientific methodology and not just speculation, which you can read about on their website: www.tighar.org. I wish I could find the UM segment on AE because I remember watching it as a kid. Bones were found on Nkumoraro in the early 1940s and Gerald Gallagher, the British rep on the island at the time, thought they may have been AE's because of other things found along with them. The bones were examined and determined to be male of pacific origins. However, forensic scientists have reviewed the original examiners findings and now believe they were female. The latest trip to Niku turned up some things even more interesting, including what has now been identified as being part of a women's compact and rouge dating from the first half of the 20th century. Earhart was known to carry a compact with her on flights. How else would makeup end up on an island in the Pacific? I truly believe they will eventually solve this mystery....
	Last edited by marionstar; 07-08-2008 at 12:18 AM.

06-17-2007, 12:45 AM	#16
clj124 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Dec 11, 2006 Posts: 12	She is in the Delta Quadrant waiting for Captain Janeway to rescue her. Sorry was to good of an opportunity to pass up. My guess is that she crashed into the pacfic because of the navigation error from what i remember the segment said she made.

06-18-2007, 04:36 PM	#18
Mikado Main st bridge Forum Superstar Join Date: Jul 06, 2005 Posts: 25,892	Emilia had a history of crashes and she had a drunken navigator ( litterally )....no doubt, she ran out of gas, and crashed into the Pacific.

04-08-2008, 05:37 PM	#19
Arnold_OldSchool Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 16, 2006 Posts: 681	PBS just ran a special last night that confirmed that Amelia and company had a code word for when Noonan (sp?) was drunk

04-08-2008, 11:22 PM	#21
Allierain Forum Old Fart Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 30, 2002 Location: Somewhere Posts: 509	I was chatting with a friend of mine about this just last night. We talked about the possibility that Earhart and Noonan were taken prisoner, and perhaps even executed. We also discussed the theory that they both made it to some island and died while waiting to be rescued. But we both settled on the original idea that Earhart and Noonan ran out of fuel and crashed into the Pacific. I doubt any real trace of them will ever be found. If they did indeed crash into the ocean, no trace of them WILL likely be found, ever.

07-07-2008, 11:17 PM	#24
FanfromES televidente Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 06, 2002 Location: el salvador central america Posts: 161	i barely remember watching this case on 'In Search of' with Leonard Nimoy. Im not sure but i remember they mentioned some photograph of a woman taken in that island. The woman had light-colored hair but the picture didnt show her face. In those days they believed that woman could be Amelia.

07-14-2008, 07:14 PM	#25
lilmissd Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 28, 2007 Location: AZ Posts: 172	I think that her and Fred Noonan perished by crashing into the pacific. They were out of gas, and way off course, not near enough to any island for them to land on. And of course no chance of being rescued, the resources in those days were limited at best. If by some small chance they did happen to crash land on some Pacific Island, they would have had limited food and water and most likely injured, they could not have survived very long in those conditions. But I definitely think it's highly unlikely that they crashed landed on an island. I don't think the plane will ever be located, it's too small and the ocean too large, it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack!

07-15-2008, 03:30 AM	#26
Cori aka ChrisSCrush Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 30, 2001 Location: USA and still trying to be proud of it! Posts: 2,071	Agreed, they cracked up. I don't know if the story shown on Unsolved Mysteries was concocted by several people or pertained to someone else. Any other white women go missing in that area? And what (besides WILD imagination) would account for the report of the plane being found intact?

07-15-2008, 12:04 PM	#27
mike890 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 07, 2003 Posts: 46	"PBS just ran a special last night that confirmed that Amelia and company had a code word for when Noonan (sp?) was drunk" That has always baffled me. Noonan was undoubtedly a great navigator but why would you want a drunk navigating especially on such a dangerous flight. Even when not drinking, alcoholics can have severe lapses in judgement.

07-15-2008, 12:07 PM	#28
mike890 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 07, 2003 Posts: 46	On another note I know there a lot of people who think that Amelia would have never have been executed due to her celebrity status. You have to remember the time this took place. Nowadays big news stories can travel the world in minutes. Back then there is a good chance that many of the people on those distant islands had never heard of Amelia Earhart. She and Noonan would have just been strange white people who might possibly be spies. I think she probably crashed but I can assure you if her plane did go down on one of those islands she would have not received a hero's welcome.

07-15-2008, 02:32 PM	#30
marionstar Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 06, 2008 Posts: 8	According to Tighar, there isn't much factual evidence to indicate Fred Noonan was an alcoholic, only rumors. They've even disproven the idea that he was so hungover on takeoff for the final flight that he had to be helped onto the plane. Noonan was supposed to be one of the best navigators out there. However, just because there is no hard concrete evidence that he was an alcoholic doesn't mean he wasn't. I tend to believe that Noonan may have been a drinker but the story has been overblown so that someone could take the blame for the Earhart disapearance. I seriously doubt his drinking led to their demise......