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SP4CE INV4DERZ · 12-24-2006, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by wiseguy182

SpaceInvaderz, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I do respect your opinions.

When I listen to suspects' stories, I ask myself, "How plausible is their story?" For some examples of people I think had holes in their story and/or their stories just don't add up are Paul Pollis, Chad Noe, Steven Marfeo, Mark Nichols and Rob Page, or as I like to refer to them as the Not-So-Fab-Five.

However, the Jenny Lee (the name of Debby and Larry's boat) almost sank the year before, as a similar incident occured when Larry took his daughters out that year. Also, an expert tested the boat engine and found that it would have intermittent starting problems, which might explain why the boat didn't initially start, but started for Larry later on. (I don't think any of this found its way into court, but I'm not sure). So, I do believe that the boat experienced the problems that Larry claimed it did that night. Now, the main question was Larry's decision to leave Debby and try to make it to what he thought was another boat. Larry had an explanation for this, and it does seem believable to me: he decided to try to swim to the other boat, knowing that Debby had both a raft and a life preserver, so I think he thought that she would be relatively safe (even though it didn't turn out that way.) His rationale was that Debby would be safe either by her making it to shore herself or Larry making it to the boat and getting help. I think Larry just suffered from a lot of bad luck that night, and spent 25 years paying for it.

As I mentioned above, the re-enactment ends kind of abruptly after Larry makes it to the boat, and I'm curious as to what happened after that, and why Debby wasn't found until the next morning.

As do I for yours (opinions) even though we don't agree on his innocence and I certainly don't believe Larry didn't have enough where-with-all to not know that he was returning to his own boat. I really want to get some answers to several nagging questions.

btw, according to the UM boardcast, the "Jenny Lee" was tested 2 years after the "incident" (I originally typed murder

) I couldnt agree more with your last paragraph.

kadrmas15 · 12-24-2006, 12:22 PM

Well Space Invaderz I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I think you are wrong and that your stubborness to consider that there is even a 1 percent chance he didnt do it I think clouds your judgement. I mean I dont mind it when someone disagrees that is what is great about a free society. However it does bother me when someone assumes that because a person was convicted of a crime that it for sure means they did it and that there is not even the smallest of possibilities that they did not do it. Now can I acknowledge there is a chance Larry did it? Of course. He for sure would have had a motive in that he was having an affair amongst other things. However I just think this was truly a bizarre way of going about a murder and I think had he planned a murder in this way I think he would have got it to go off better than it did. It just doesnt add up to me. But it amazes me there are Larry Race haters just like there are Dr. MacDonald haters. It just seems to me that a string of bad luck happened to Larry that day. What happened to Larry is the same thing that happened to MacDonald. While there was a motive it was a weak one at best and neither one of them should have been convicted but they should not have even been charged in the first place and they would not have been had it not been for overzealous prosecutors that will do ANYTHING to get that conviction no matter how much they have to lie, cheat or steal to do it. Like in MacDonald's case the prosecutor in LArry's case was very arrogant and assumed that there was not even a 1 percent chance he could have been wrong. In Larry's case I just think the prosecutors a nd cops needed someone to blame and Larry was a very convienent person for them to blame. I am done with this because we can go around in circles debating this like in Dr. MacDonald's case and no one is going to change their minds and the arguments will just continue to get more nasty and people will just keep hating on someone so that is my two cents.

SP4CE INV4DERZ · 12-24-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kadrmas15

Well Space Invaderz I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I think you are wrong and that your stubborness to consider that there is even a 1 percent chance he didnt do it I think clouds your judgement. I mean I dont mind it when someone disagrees that is what is great about a free society. However it does bother me when someone assumes that because a person was convicted of a crime that it for sure means they did it and that there is not even the smallest of possibilities that they did not do it. Now can I acknowledge there is a chance Larry did it? Of course. He for sure would have had a motive in that he was having an affair amongst other things. However I just think this was truly a bizarre way of going about a murder and I think had he planned a murder in this way I think he would have got it to go off better than it did. It just doesnt add up to me. But it amazes me there are Larry Race haters just like there are Dr. MacDonald haters. It just seems to me that a string of bad luck happened to Larry that day. What happened to Larry is the same thing that happened to MacDonald. While there was a motive it was a weak one at best and neither one of them should have been convicted but they should not have even been charged in the first place and they would not have been had it not been for overzealous prosecutors that will do ANYTHING to get that conviction no matter how much they have to lie, cheat or steal to do it. Like in MacDonald's case the prosecutor in LArry's case was very arrogant and assumed that there was not even a 1 percent chance he could have been wrong. In Larry's case I just think the prosecutors a nd cops needed someone to blame and Larry was a very convienent person for them to blame. I am done with this because we can go around in circles debating this like in Dr. MacDonald's case and no one is going to change their minds and the arguments will just continue to get more nasty and people will just keep hating on someone so that is my two cents.

Don't pretend to know me. Sure I've considered that Larry might not have done it and I wouldnt say I'm 100% sure, just answer the questions...if you can? And FFS where did I say I hate either Larry or MacDonald????

kadrmas15 · 12-24-2006, 09:26 PM

I didnt mean you literally hated Larry or Dr. MacDonald. I meant you were hating on them. I am assuming you know what it means to hate on someone but not necessarily hate them personally so I wont bother to explain it. I am sorry you took it so personally Space Invaderz. I was not really trying to personally slam you but rather I was trying to understand your opinion on this. I can see why you would think he might be guilty but do not agree with that. But I am glad you responded and I actually liked your response. I am glad you cleared up my misconceptions about you. With that I think we can move on from this and bury the hatchet.

12-24-2006, 12:22 PM	#17
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well Space Invaderz I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I think you are wrong and that your stubborness to consider that there is even a 1 percent chance he didnt do it I think clouds your judgement. I mean I dont mind it when someone disagrees that is what is great about a free society. However it does bother me when someone assumes that because a person was convicted of a crime that it for sure means they did it and that there is not even the smallest of possibilities that they did not do it. Now can I acknowledge there is a chance Larry did it? Of course. He for sure would have had a motive in that he was having an affair amongst other things. However I just think this was truly a bizarre way of going about a murder and I think had he planned a murder in this way I think he would have got it to go off better than it did. It just doesnt add up to me. But it amazes me there are Larry Race haters just like there are Dr. MacDonald haters. It just seems to me that a string of bad luck happened to Larry that day. What happened to Larry is the same thing that happened to MacDonald. While there was a motive it was a weak one at best and neither one of them should have been convicted but they should not have even been charged in the first place and they would not have been had it not been for overzealous prosecutors that will do ANYTHING to get that conviction no matter how much they have to lie, cheat or steal to do it. Like in MacDonald's case the prosecutor in LArry's case was very arrogant and assumed that there was not even a 1 percent chance he could have been wrong. In Larry's case I just think the prosecutors a nd cops needed someone to blame and Larry was a very convienent person for them to blame. I am done with this because we can go around in circles debating this like in Dr. MacDonald's case and no one is going to change their minds and the arguments will just continue to get more nasty and people will just keep hating on someone so that is my two cents.

12-24-2006, 09:26 PM	#19
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	I didnt mean you literally hated Larry or Dr. MacDonald. I meant you were hating on them. I am assuming you know what it means to hate on someone but not necessarily hate them personally so I wont bother to explain it. I am sorry you took it so personally Space Invaderz. I was not really trying to personally slam you but rather I was trying to understand your opinion on this. I can see why you would think he might be guilty but do not agree with that. But I am glad you responded and I actually liked your response. I am glad you cleared up my misconceptions about you. With that I think we can move on from this and bury the hatchet.