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sugarbaby · 05-26-2006, 03:09 PM

Is it just me or does Jule look like he suffered from a botched eye lift or what? What was with that guys eyes and face? It was like he had the permenant suprised look on his eyes....he is totally guilty

New Brandon · 06-13-2006, 01:54 AM

Just saw this case now... I must say, I thought that if he had the mindset to say "life is pretty good," then he probably wouldn't have killed her. I think that's actually too much of a giveaway.

Seeing as how the marriage obviously wasn't a happy one, I was sure he would be happier without her, despite the fact that she was a missing person.

But after reading that letter... I guess he probably did it.

dbcoopercatcher · 06-13-2006, 05:37 AM

I remember seeing this story and he gave me the creeps. He sure did have a lot to lose with a divorce, half the house, alimony, etc.she disappears and he just happens to call in sick during this period and put in new carpeting and re-paint. I hope they get this guy if he did it (or is he just callous). I wonder if they searched the 30 acres of undeveloped land in Oregon that he owned. Not that far of a drive from San Fran. to Oregon.

db

ps I wonder how the dog died?

Can you believe he has a new girlfriend and wants to put her name as a beneficiary on his retirement account? Is love really blind? Hasn't she heard about this case?

New Brandon · 06-14-2006, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dbcoopercatcher

Can you believe he has a new girlfriend and wants to put her name as a beneficiary on his retirement account? Is love really blind? Hasn't she heard about this case?

I think when you're in love, you can easily be manipulated and give the benefit of the doubt.

wiseguy182 · 06-14-2006, 03:50 AM

I think Jule Caylor is guilty. I think it is possible he wanted to murder for a long time, and when he found out about Dottie's desire to venture out on her own, he figured to himself that it was time becuase he could try to make it seem she left him for this new life.

There was one other case on UM where it is possible that somebody tried to make it seem like their partner left them. I can't remember any names, but I think it aired in 1995 and the murder occured in 1994. It was about this mother of 2 sons (age 19 and 24 I believe) in Massachussetts who would have an on again/off again relationship with this guy, who she accused of occasionally beating her. She finally ended the relationship with the guy for good, only to disappear the next day. Her body was found in 1996. Her car was found at an airport and it was speculated that the boyfriend intentionally left it there (probably to make it seem that she had flown off somewhere.) I can't remember the names though, can anyone recall them or have any thoughts on it?

zakattak3 · 09-01-2006, 09:54 PM

my parents actually met jule and dottie before this happening, saying that jule was a strange man. glad he doesnt live in my area anymore.

kadrmas15 · 10-09-2006, 06:49 PM

Well Jule, personally I think he did it. Yes he did say "life is pretty good" however he just comes off to me as really cocky. Jule just comes off to me like that, like he is so cocky and he thinks that he is so smart that no one can get to him. Jule at the time of the interview was probably thinking he had everyone fooled and that it really didnt matter how he acted because in his mind he probably as I said thought he had everyone fooled into believing his story that Dottie left to start a new life or that he was thinking no one would ever find her body so it didnt matter what he said. He probably thought without a body he would never be charged. Personally I think if her body is ever found I would expect Jule Caylor to be probably be arrested shortly thereafter.

ForeverPluto · 10-10-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dbcoopercatcher

I remember seeing this story and he gave me the creeps. He sure did have a lot to lose with a divorce, half the house, alimony, etc.she disappears and he just happens to call in sick during this period and put in new carpeting and re-paint. I hope they get this guy if he did it (or is he just callous). I wonder if they searched the 30 acres of undeveloped land in Oregon that he owned. Not that far of a drive from San Fran. to Oregon.

db

ps I wonder how the dog died?

Can you believe he has a new girlfriend and wants to put her name as a beneficiary on his retirement account? Is love really blind? Hasn't she heard about this case?

Plus from reading the article about things the poice found, it sounds like Dottie had some pretty good dirt on Jule. I think Jule got scared that Dottie would expose him. Because I don't see him killing her just because she decided to leave him. I think Dottie must have had something pretty BIG on Jule and was going to put it out there when she left him.

UMfan77 · 10-10-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wiseguy182

There was one other case on UM where it is possible that somebody tried to make it seem like their partner left them. I can't remember any names, but I think it aired in 1995 and the murder occured in 1994. It was about this mother of 2 sons (age 19 and 24 I believe) in Massachussetts who would have an on again/off again relationship with this guy, who she accused of occasionally beating her. She finally ended the relationship with the guy for good, only to disappear the next day. Her body was found in 1996. Her car was found at an airport and it was speculated that the boyfriend intentionally left it there (probably to make it seem that she had flown off somewhere.) I can't remember the names though, can anyone recall them or have any thoughts on it?

The name of the woman was Susan Harrison. Her sons are very convinced that the boyfriend did it. Such a sad case. I don't know if anyone has been convicted of her murder.

wiseguy182 · 10-11-2006, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by UMfan77

The name of the woman was Susan Harrison. Her sons are very convinced that the boyfriend did it. Such a sad case. I don't know if anyone has been convicted of her murder.

Nope, no one has been convicted of the murder. I saw/recorded this off of lifetime a little while ago, and the only update it had was one of those pseudo-updates just to inform us that the body was found.

kadrmas15 · 10-11-2006, 05:40 AM

Well this is just another example of the cops knowing the person that did it but having a DA that will not press charges because they are afraid the person would get acquitted. In the case of Dottie Caylor I think if her body were to be found I think Jule Caylor would be arrested within hours of that. Jule must be at least in his late 50's by now maybe even in his early 60's. There are other ones too like Paul Pollis, Chad Noe, Mark Nichols and others where if the body were found I bet all of them would be arrested shortly after the body was found and charged with murder. In all of these cases all of these states have the death penalty. Nichols might luck out becuase he might not have planned to murder his wife but I think Pollis, Noe and Caylor all had planned it out so they would all most likely get murder-1. However it surprises me they couldnt get a murder conviction on any of these guys. I have seen people get convicted of murder with less than what the authorities have on Jule Caylor, Paul Pollis, Chad Noe and Mark Nichols.

hostedbyrobertstack · 03-12-2007, 12:54 PM

Hey i just watched this segment so i did a search and found this topic. Its pretty obvious jule did it, but I tried to click the links to the "articles' and the "letter" but file not found on all of them, does anyone know where I can locate these letters online now? They sound interesting, thanks.

justins5256 · 03-12-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hostedbyrobertstack

Hey i just watched this segment so i did a search and found this topic. Its pretty obvious jule did it, but I tried to click the links to the "articles' and the "letter" but file not found on all of them, does anyone know where I can locate these letters online now? They sound interesting, thanks.

I have the file you are looking for. If you want to respond with your email address I will email it to you. I tried attaching it to the post twice but I suspect the file size is too large as it was rejected each time.

hostedbyrobertstack · 03-12-2007, 09:27 PM

hey, my email is Jeffro00j@sbcglobal.net if you could send that Id much appreciate it, thanks.

kadrmas15 · 03-14-2007, 08:52 PM

Well I think Jule Caylor is probably guilty. I think they should take the risky gamble of trying the guy without the body and see what happens, they still might get a conviction. I do think if her body was ever found that Jule would be arrested within hours and charged with first degree murder. Although in California it isnt uncommon for a guy to be convicted of 2nd degree instead of first. They gotta get moving on Jule he is around 70 now and is living out his golden years.

06-13-2006, 05:37 AM	#18
dbcoopercatcher Freedom of Speech Frequent Poster Join Date: May 26, 2006 Posts: 212	creepy I remember seeing this story and he gave me the creeps. He sure did have a lot to lose with a divorce, half the house, alimony, etc.she disappears and he just happens to call in sick during this period and put in new carpeting and re-paint. I hope they get this guy if he did it (or is he just callous). I wonder if they searched the 30 acres of undeveloped land in Oregon that he owned. Not that far of a drive from San Fran. to Oregon. db ps I wonder how the dog died? Can you believe he has a new girlfriend and wants to put her name as a beneficiary on his retirement account? Is love really blind? Hasn't she heard about this case?
	__________________ db cooper catcher

05-26-2006, 03:09 PM	#16
sugarbaby Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 29, 2006 Location: portland, oregon Posts: 39	Is it just me or does Jule look like he suffered from a botched eye lift or what? What was with that guys eyes and face? It was like he had the permenant suprised look on his eyes....he is totally guilty

06-13-2006, 01:54 AM	#17
New Brandon Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 23, 2005 Posts: 47	Just saw this case now... I must say, I thought that if he had the mindset to say "life is pretty good," then he probably wouldn't have killed her. I think that's actually too much of a giveaway. Seeing as how the marriage obviously wasn't a happy one, I was sure he would be happier without her, despite the fact that she was a missing person. But after reading that letter... I guess he probably did it.

06-14-2006, 03:50 AM	#20
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	I think Jule Caylor is guilty. I think it is possible he wanted to murder for a long time, and when he found out about Dottie's desire to venture out on her own, he figured to himself that it was time becuase he could try to make it seem she left him for this new life. There was one other case on UM where it is possible that somebody tried to make it seem like their partner left them. I can't remember any names, but I think it aired in 1995 and the murder occured in 1994. It was about this mother of 2 sons (age 19 and 24 I believe) in Massachussetts who would have an on again/off again relationship with this guy, who she accused of occasionally beating her. She finally ended the relationship with the guy for good, only to disappear the next day. Her body was found in 1996. Her car was found at an airport and it was speculated that the boyfriend intentionally left it there (probably to make it seem that she had flown off somewhere.) I can't remember the names though, can anyone recall them or have any thoughts on it?

09-01-2006, 09:54 PM	#21
zakattak3 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 07, 2005 Posts: 19	my parents actually met jule and dottie before this happening, saying that jule was a strange man. glad he doesnt live in my area anymore.

10-09-2006, 06:49 PM	#22
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well Jule, personally I think he did it. Yes he did say "life is pretty good" however he just comes off to me as really cocky. Jule just comes off to me like that, like he is so cocky and he thinks that he is so smart that no one can get to him. Jule at the time of the interview was probably thinking he had everyone fooled and that it really didnt matter how he acted because in his mind he probably as I said thought he had everyone fooled into believing his story that Dottie left to start a new life or that he was thinking no one would ever find her body so it didnt matter what he said. He probably thought without a body he would never be charged. Personally I think if her body is ever found I would expect Jule Caylor to be probably be arrested shortly thereafter.

10-11-2006, 05:40 AM	#26
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well this is just another example of the cops knowing the person that did it but having a DA that will not press charges because they are afraid the person would get acquitted. In the case of Dottie Caylor I think if her body were to be found I think Jule Caylor would be arrested within hours of that. Jule must be at least in his late 50's by now maybe even in his early 60's. There are other ones too like Paul Pollis, Chad Noe, Mark Nichols and others where if the body were found I bet all of them would be arrested shortly after the body was found and charged with murder. In all of these cases all of these states have the death penalty. Nichols might luck out becuase he might not have planned to murder his wife but I think Pollis, Noe and Caylor all had planned it out so they would all most likely get murder-1. However it surprises me they couldnt get a murder conviction on any of these guys. I have seen people get convicted of murder with less than what the authorities have on Jule Caylor, Paul Pollis, Chad Noe and Mark Nichols.

03-12-2007, 12:54 PM	#27
hostedbyrobertstack Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 23, 2007 Location: OH Posts: 436	Hey i just watched this segment so i did a search and found this topic. Its pretty obvious jule did it, but I tried to click the links to the "articles' and the "letter" but file not found on all of them, does anyone know where I can locate these letters online now? They sound interesting, thanks.

03-12-2007, 09:27 PM	#29
hostedbyrobertstack Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 23, 2007 Location: OH Posts: 436	hey, my email is Jeffro00j@sbcglobal.net if you could send that Id much appreciate it, thanks.

03-14-2007, 08:52 PM	#30
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well I think Jule Caylor is probably guilty. I think they should take the risky gamble of trying the guy without the body and see what happens, they still might get a conviction. I do think if her body was ever found that Jule would be arrested within hours and charged with first degree murder. Although in California it isnt uncommon for a guy to be convicted of 2nd degree instead of first. They gotta get moving on Jule he is around 70 now and is living out his golden years.