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Ireneparalegal · 09-11-2005, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by craftman

I'm not trying to say she was right, I'm just saying there are people that fall for scams, it's not her fault. I bet you people would buy those pirated copies on ebay, taking a chance it's a scam, when all they have to do is buy the real deal in a store. That's the choice they make. I wouldn't fault you for selling bootlegs cause people don't have to buy 'em.

true, very true.

craftman · 09-11-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

Craftman, my belief, my opinion is that if people believe in psychics (and I do believe that there are a rare breed of those, those who don't do it for $$$ but to help law enforcement) but if people believe in that kind of stuff, then more power to them. My point and my only point is that if they see a person they respect such as Esther Rolle "inviting" them to call her line, then Ms. Rolle should have CLEARLY SAID ON THE AIR THE CHARGES THAT WOULD BE INCURRED. And if she didn't want to do that or didn't have the say so to do that, she either should have dropped the gig, or have the producers of the commercial CLEARLY PUT IN BOLD LETTERS THE AMT OF $$$ THEY WOULD BE CHARGED. Then, and only then would the responsibility fall on the shoulders of those who called. If they had stated on the air that their first call would be 99 cents (which they did in fact) then they should have also clearly stated that they would automatically be signed up for a monthly charge of $3.95 per month and that charge would show up automatically on their phone bill. They should also clearly state their first minute is only 99 cents and each minute after that is whatever amt they charge. Some charged $3-5 each minute. And those pyschics don't give you a "vision" in two minutes. That first 99 cent minute is spent ON HOLD. You are told a bunch of mumbo jumbo stuff. From the customers that I had talked to, they told me by the time someone actually talked to them, ten minutes had passed and they took their sweet ass time "reading" their future. The customers believed their first call would only be 99 cents.

Lovely, but I'm sure all that was stated, it probably was just in fine print or something. As long as it's stated somewhere even if you need a magnifying glass to see it, it's nobody's fault but the caller.

Now, don't take me too serious, just giving my opinions.

craftman · 09-11-2005, 12:12 PM

By the way, great post Irene, way to get us going.
You're gonna be competition for Retro soon.

Ireneparalegal · 09-11-2005, 03:07 PM

Awww shucks (Irene blushing...LOL) Don't want to compete with anyone, I like all my friends here. You are all cool. You all have your diff. set of opinions and sense of style in your posts, that's what makes all of you special. I know we have our differences and we go over the edge, but you are all special. Okay now, no more lovey dovey stuff, let's get back to some fun!!!!!!!

GeorgeWBushGOP · 09-11-2005, 03:37 PM

We will all have to agree to disagree.

You guys are all making excuses for her being a scam artist because you love her.

So why bother fighting it.?

Ireneparalegal · 09-11-2005, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeWBushGOP

We will all have to agree to disagree.

You guys are all making excuses for her being a scam artist because you love her.

So why bother fighting it.?

I don't see no one making excuses. I see all of us having a different opinion on the way Esther Rolle "possibly" handled this situation. I don't condone what she did, but I don't despise her either. I wasn't there, so I don't know what went on regarding negotiations. Whatever may have gone on, still doesn't change the fact that she associated herself with a company that apparently came out to be one misleading company. She plays a part in that being that Ms. Rolle was an adult and bears responsibility for endorsing such a company.

GeorgeWBushGOP · 09-12-2005, 08:34 AM

I don't despise her either. I do despise what she did though.

I don't see how any employees of those companies can't see how they are ripping people off.

There was a probe four years ago and almost all of them were shut down.

And I didn't mean "you" in you all darlin.

Maybe I just was directing craft. sorry.

I used to justify my heroes when I was younger like Dwight Gooden.

MsMaia · 09-12-2005, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeWBushGOP

I don't despise her either. I do despise what she did though.

I don't see how any employees of those companies can't see how they are ripping people off.

There was a probe four years ago and almost all of them were shut down.

And I didn't mean "you" in you all darlin.

Maybe I just was directing craft. sorry.

I used to justify my heroes when I was younger like Dwight Gooden.

I agree with you totally. Its WRONG to mislead people for your own financial gain. Esther, Philip, Dionne etc. should be ashamed of themselves.

GeorgeWBushGOP · 09-12-2005, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MsMaia

I agree with you totally. Its WRONG to mislead people for your own financial gain. Esther, Philip, Dionne etc. should be ashamed of themselves.

It just offends me when people say the victims in these scams were asking for it. Or should have known better. Or were stupid and deserved to be taken advantage of.

That is not cool.

Dr. Thong · 09-12-2005, 02:14 PM

There was a wave of black actors doing those for a while: Esther Rolle, Billy Dee Williams and the most ubiquitous of them all, Dionne Warwick and her Psychic Friends Network. I thought they all kind of sunk pretty low to endorse something like that. Money talk$.

On one talk show, Dionne Warwick was interviewed after the Psychic Friends Network went bankrupt and she was asked "So, were they able to predict that one?"

Dionne just laughed it off.

James"Thunder"Early · 09-12-2005, 02:54 PM

Her commercial were for The Caring Psychic Family. She really should be ashamed of herself, because all these lines do is target the most desperate people who probably can't afford it, because their looking for some hope in the future. The price was right and she probably didn't care if it was a scam as long as she was making money. I notice most of the people who did these were has beens. I'm not sure how much Esther made, but I guess it was a good amount.

GeorgeWBushGOP · 09-12-2005, 03:56 PM

wolfman jack, Eric Estrada are a couple of others that come to mind that promoted them.

I remember Wolfman died and that next morning there was his infomercial still airing.

Dr. Thong · 09-12-2005, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Leland McKenzie

Her commercial were for The Caring Psychic Family. She really should be ashamed of herself, because all these lines do is target the most desperate people who probably can't afford it, because their looking for some hope in the future. The price was right and she probably didn't care if it was a scam as long as she was making money. I notice most of the people who did these were has beens. I'm not sure how much Esther made, but I guess it was a good amount.

It's pretty bad when celebrities do most kinds of infomercials, but these kind scrape the bottom of the barrel.

"Hi, I'm Troy McClure! You may remember me from such films as Today We Kill, Tomorrow We Die and Gladys, The Groovy Mule!"

When I saw Troy McClure on The Simpsons the first time, it reminded me of this infomercial I'd seen around that time with Lyle Waggoner of The Carol Burnett Show. I miss Troy (and Phil Hartman) - God bless 'em!

Ireneparalegal · 09-12-2005, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Thong

It's pretty bad when celebrities do most kinds of infomercials, but these kind scrape the bottom of the barrel.

"Hi, I'm Troy McClure! You may remember me from such films as Today We Kill, Tomorrow We Die and Gladys, The Groovy Mule!"

When I saw Troy McClure on The Simpsons the first time, it reminded me of this infomercial I'd seen around that time with Lyle Waggoner of The Carol Burnett Show. I miss Troy (and Phil Hartman) - God bless 'em!

Troy makes me laugh so much!!!!!! I miss Phil too.
Yeah, these infomercials are really lower than the sewers. Lately I seen Erik Estrada doing a "regular" commercial for something regarding purchasing some land and you too can live in "paradise"!!! LOL
Dionne Warwicke must have done crack with her whacked out niece Whitney when she decided to do those damn commercials. LOL

craftman · 09-13-2005, 12:30 AM

Alright y'all, y'all right, Esther is a scam artist. She even scammed me into believing she wasn't one.

She's goooood! LOL

09-12-2005, 02:14 PM	#25
Dr. Thong a/k/a "ACK!" Forum Veteran Join Date: Jul 10, 2001 Location: New Hampshire, USA Posts: 5,546	There was a wave of black actors doing those for a while: Esther Rolle, Billy Dee Williams and the most ubiquitous of them all, Dionne Warwick and her Psychic Friends Network. I thought they all kind of sunk pretty low to endorse something like that. Money talk$. On one talk show, Dionne Warwick was interviewed after the Psychic Friends Network went bankrupt and she was asked "So, were they able to predict that one?" Dionne just laughed it off.
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09-12-2005, 02:54 PM	#26
James"Thunder"Early Whoever's In New England Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 23, 2004 Location: The Apollo Posts: 7,088	Her commercial were for The Caring Psychic Family. She really should be ashamed of herself, because all these lines do is target the most desperate people who probably can't afford it, because their looking for some hope in the future. The price was right and she probably didn't care if it was a scam as long as she was making money. I notice most of the people who did these were has beens. I'm not sure how much Esther made, but I guess it was a good amount.
	__________________ Esther Anderson: Get thee behind me, Satan, but I'm gon' get behind you, 'cause I'm gonna put my foot in your--- Peggy Mitchell: Get outta my pub! You better pray you get the last laugh, it's a kick in the teeth when you don't get it.

09-11-2005, 12:12 PM	#18
craftman Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Posts: 553	By the way, great post Irene, way to get us going. You're gonna be competition for Retro soon.

09-11-2005, 03:07 PM	#19
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	Awww shucks (Irene blushing...LOL) Don't want to compete with anyone, I like all my friends here. You are all cool. You all have your diff. set of opinions and sense of style in your posts, that's what makes all of you special. I know we have our differences and we go over the edge, but you are all special. Okay now, no more lovey dovey stuff, let's get back to some fun!!!!!!!

09-11-2005, 03:37 PM	#20
GeorgeWBushGOP Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 04, 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 802	We will all have to agree to disagree. You guys are all making excuses for her being a scam artist because you love her. So why bother fighting it.?

09-12-2005, 08:34 AM	#22
GeorgeWBushGOP Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 04, 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 802	I don't despise her either. I do despise what she did though. I don't see how any employees of those companies can't see how they are ripping people off. There was a probe four years ago and almost all of them were shut down. And I didn't mean "you" in you all darlin. Maybe I just was directing craft. sorry. I used to justify my heroes when I was younger like Dwight Gooden.

09-12-2005, 03:56 PM	#27
GeorgeWBushGOP Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 04, 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 802	wolfman jack, Eric Estrada are a couple of others that come to mind that promoted them. I remember Wolfman died and that next morning there was his infomercial still airing.

09-13-2005, 12:30 AM	#30
craftman Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Posts: 553	Alright y'all, y'all right, Esther is a scam artist. She even scammed me into believing she wasn't one. She's goooood! LOL