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NewhartNewb · 06-26-2010, 05:33 PM

Newhart jumped the sea shark when that dream that became that AWESOME NBC lifetime awarding winning docudrama called WINGS.

WingsSuperFan · 06-26-2010, 05:33 PM

When they started dreaming about ask the Wings characters. Wings was soooolo much better than Newhart.

NewhartNewb · 06-26-2010, 05:35 PM

I'm not sure where you get you science or maths from. But. We'll see.

stevea · 06-28-2010, 03:42 PM

When they had an episode where (and this is a fuzzy memory) where either Larry or one of the Daryls was playing the piano on a set decorated like Liberace would have. Totally bizarre.

catlover79 · 06-28-2010, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by stevea

When they had an episode where (and this is a fuzzy memory) where either Larry or one of the Daryls was playing the piano on a set decorated like Liberace would have. Totally bizarre.

Wow, I don't even remember that one.

Rezny@gmail.com · 07-13-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by catlover79

Now that I think of it, the show was a bit too centered on Stephanie/Michael and Larry/Darryl/Darryl in the last couple of seasons. It's like Bob took a backseat on his own show.

You're right about that.When it concentrated on just Stephanie/Michael and no one else,it was like watching a totally different show.And that bit where Larry/Darrryl/Darryl came in ,and Larry said"Hi.I'm Larry.This is my brother Darryl and my other brother Darryl"..to everyone(I can see them doing it to total strangers),EVEN(and this got kind of old FAST)people who knew them(Dick,Joanna,George,Kirk,Michael,Leslie,Stephanie,).And you're right about Bob taking a back seat -like he was shoved aside,and Bob being more befuddled and confused than ever.

robyrob · 07-14-2010, 12:33 AM

i thought the show jumped the shark when the whole town got bought out by the Chinese and turned it into a golf course.

catlover79 · 07-14-2010, 01:02 AM

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i thought the show jumped the shark when the whole town got bought out by the Chinese and turned it into a golf course.

But that was the last episode, so it really couldn't have jumped then.

robyrob · 07-14-2010, 01:46 AM

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But that was the last episode, so it really couldn't have jumped then.

i stand by my answer, of course I thought they got right back on track again with the classic ending!

catlover79 · 07-14-2010, 01:51 AM

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i stand by my answer, of course I thought they got right back on track again with the classic ending!

Very true!! I loved how the audience just erupted into cheers and applause when Suzanne Pleshette popped up.

Torgo · 05-24-2011, 12:25 PM

I never got tired of the Larry, Darryl and Darryl schtick...heck it was so cool it even popped up in the computer game- Baldur's Gate. (You run into 3 creatures named Larry, Darryl, and Darryl)

Marc076 · 11-08-2016, 02:30 AM

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When do you think Newhart jumped the shark? I think it did when Michael joined the cast...such an annoying character.

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I totally agree, that's so ironic that you think so too. Michael quickly turned the show into a spoof on '80s yuppy culture, with increasingly silly, exaggerated story lines that were a far departure from the high quality writing of the show's first two seasons.

Marc076 · 11-08-2016, 02:48 AM

Having Michael hook-up with Stephanie so early on in the 3rd season robbed her of developing into a more interesting, individual character where she could show more talent. Instead, she, under the influence of Michael, devolved into this silly, superficial, unbelievable character. Remember how much better, more credible of a character Stephanie was during seasons one and two when she was on her own and occasionally had to fight off Kirk's advances.

DJM77 · 11-08-2016, 08:34 PM

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Having Michael hook-up with Stephanie so early on in the 3rd season robbed her of developing into a more interesting, individual character where she could show more talent. Instead, she, under the influence of Michael, devolved into this silly, superficial, unbelievable character. Remember how much better, more credible of a character Stephanie was during seasons one and two when she was on her own and occasionally had to fight off Kirk's advances.

Well, Stephanie only appeared in one season one episode. I can't remember if she ever had to fight off advances from Kirk or not. Her cousin Leslie did.

PhoenixAcres · 11-08-2016, 09:24 PM

I think if Newhart ever had a jump the shark moment it was season 7 when practically the entire creative crew behind the show left and completely new writers, producers, etc. came on. The new writers seemed not to be in touch with the show's sense of charm and humor and they sort of over-exaggerated and adjusted the characters in an unpleasant way (i.e. Michael literally losing his mind, etc.).

Michael in and of himself was a pretty good character, but I do think season 2 (before he came on) was a very solid season without him. Seasons 3-6 were probably the best though, with the final cast in place.

For some reason I thought season 8 was an improvement over season 7. I just found it to be fun and satisfying despite retaining all the season 7 writers. A good season to end the show with.

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06-26-2010, 05:33 PM	#16
NewhartNewb Member Forum Cub Join Date: Jun 26, 2010 Location: Nantucket Island Posts: 2	Newhart jumped the sea shark when that dream that became that AWESOME NBC lifetime awarding winning docudrama called WINGS.

06-26-2010, 05:33 PM	#17
WingsSuperFan Member First Time Poster Join Date: Jun 26, 2010 Posts: 1	When they started dreaming about ask the Wings characters. Wings was soooolo much better than Newhart.

06-26-2010, 05:35 PM	#18
NewhartNewb Member Forum Cub Join Date: Jun 26, 2010 Location: Nantucket Island Posts: 2	I'm not sure where you get you science or maths from. But. We'll see.

06-28-2010, 03:42 PM	#19
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 45,154	When they had an episode where (and this is a fuzzy memory) where either Larry or one of the Daryls was playing the piano on a set decorated like Liberace would have. Totally bizarre.

11-08-2016, 02:48 AM	#28
Marc076 Member Forum Cub Join Date: Oct 28, 2016 Location: Indiana Posts: 2	Having Michael hook-up with Stephanie so early on in the 3rd season robbed her of developing into a more interesting, individual character where she could show more talent. Instead, she, under the influence of Michael, devolved into this silly, superficial, unbelievable character. Remember how much better, more credible of a character Stephanie was during seasons one and two when she was on her own and occasionally had to fight off Kirk's advances.

11-08-2016, 09:24 PM	#30
PhoenixAcres Member Moderator Forum Veteran Join Date: Jul 26, 2016 Location: United States Posts: 6,832	I think if Newhart ever had a jump the shark moment it was season 7 when practically the entire creative crew behind the show left and completely new writers, producers, etc. came on. The new writers seemed not to be in touch with the show's sense of charm and humor and they sort of over-exaggerated and adjusted the characters in an unpleasant way (i.e. Michael literally losing his mind, etc.). Michael in and of himself was a pretty good character, but I do think season 2 (before he came on) was a very solid season without him. Seasons 3-6 were probably the best though, with the final cast in place. For some reason I thought season 8 was an improvement over season 7. I just found it to be fun and satisfying despite retaining all the season 7 writers. A good season to end the show with.