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Old 05-28-2005, 10:41 AM   #16
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The Hollywood Reporter has a list entitled "Final Ratings and Audience Figures" up at their website. It is part of their 2004-2005 wrapup. You can also see a listing of special events, sports and movies on TV as well as the Top Ten in various demographics.
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Old 05-28-2005, 07:38 PM   #17
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Lost's avergae for new episodes is 18 million viewers, compared to 16 in the final ratings.
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Old 05-28-2005, 08:14 PM   #18
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I personally think that reality shows should be counted as specials as opposed to "regular programming", because reality shows DON'T REPEAT. Shows like Housewives and Lost have the advantage over reality shows that people will be willing to watch the episodes a second time, albeit in smaller numbers than in the original airing. So it's really not fair that shows like American Idol and Survivor, which is all new episodes every season are pitted against other programs that actually make it in repeats.

Of course, now that Reality's been around for about five years, people are beginning to realize what a mistake it was putting all their money and effort on those shows, considering they can't sell American Idol episodes into syndication, etc...
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Old 05-28-2005, 08:36 PM   #19
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I personally think that reality shows should be counted as specials as opposed to "regular programming", because reality shows DON'T REPEAT. Shows like Housewives and Lost have the advantage over reality shows that people will be willing to watch the episodes a second time, albeit in smaller numbers than in the original airing. So it's really not fair that shows like American Idol and Survivor, which is all new episodes every season are pitted against other programs that actually make it in repeats.

Of course, now that Reality's been around for about five years, people are beginning to realize what a mistake it was putting all their money and effort on those shows, considering they can't sell American Idol episodes into syndication, etc...
That's a good point. I have a hard time re-watching Survivor(which is right up there with DH in terms of likability) but I can watch an episode of DH multiple times. I still when I get bored watch old episodes(from November/December) and even though all the mysteries are solved, it's still as interesting as it was when I first saw them.
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Woah. NBC cancelled "Law & Order: Trial By Jury" and it was a top 35 show.

Another interesting thing to note, aside from Everybody Loves Raymond and Two & A Half Men.... Joey was the only sitcom to place in the Top 40. And that's where it is -- 40.

Ouch. Next year looks to be the weakest ever in terms of sitcoms.
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Woah. NBC cancelled "Law & Order: Trial By Jury" and it was a top 35 show.

Another interesting thing to note, aside from Everybody Loves Raymond and Two & A Half Men.... Joey was the only sitcom to place in the Top 40. And that's where it is -- 40.

Ouch. Next year looks to be the weakest ever in terms of sitcoms.
Joey was only averaging, what, 12 million viewers a week?

Of course, it was against Survivor, so that's not bad.
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It would be nice if next season their was a breakout sitcom like what happened with the dramas this season.

BTW cancelling TBJ was stupid.
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Joey was only averaging, what, 12 million viewers a week?

Of course, it was against Survivor, so that's not bad.

I defintely don;t see Joey going beyond the 2005-06 season. Next season will defintely be the last
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10.2 million for Joey, and much of that was early on. Later on it was well below 10.2 million. I think next season looks pretty good for sitcoms, some promising ones, well except for NBC who again will only go with 4.

So why was L&O: TBJ canceled? Because it mostly was last in its time slot for adults 18-49. It was #59 in that for the season.
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10.2 million for Joey, and much of that was early on. Later on it was well below 10.2 million. I think next season looks pretty good for sitcoms, some promising ones, well except for NBC who again will only go with 4.

So why was L&O: TBJ canceled? Because it mostly was last in its time slot for adults 18-49. It was #59 in that for the season.


Well I'm afraid Joey will not make the 2nd season of next year. I see a Cancellation before 2006. They better have some guest apperances quick from the Friends Cast Members-lol
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Wow, Charmed is 132nd, tied with Britney Spears reality show. I didn't realize things were THAT bad. What I Like About You is 148th
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132nd would be bad for any network...except WB or UPN. There's just a lower, overall, set of expectations that come from those two networks.
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Ouch 8 Simple Rules is #90. Well, the Friday slot is part of the reason.
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132nd would be bad for any network...except WB or UPN. There's just a lower, overall, set of expectations that come from those two networks.
yeah, I thought that as well, but if 7th Heaven can be at 103, I think Charmed should be up higher too. Hopefully the ratings will pick up next season.
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Ouch 8 Simple Rules is #90. Well, the Friday slot is part of the reason.

#90 is very Low for a ABC show which tells you why it was AXED.
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