Raven-Symone album due Sept. 21st

[david&maddie4ever]

Originally posted by DollaBill
I don't see why a professional baseball player couldn't become a professional football player, it's still a sport!

I don't want to start anything here, but...what? Just because you're good at something DOES NOT mean you're automatically good at something else in the same field, whether it be sports or entertainment.

There may be a few lucky ones who are able to both sing and act, but there aren't many. My point was simply that a person isn't necessarily good at everything that has to do with entertainment just because they can act.

I'm not relating this to Raven or anything...it's just a comment.

[DollaBill]

Originally posted by david&maddie4ever
I don't want to start anything here, but...what? Just because you're good at something DOES NOT mean you're automatically good at something else in the same field, whether it be sports or entertainment.

There may be a few lucky ones who are able to both sing and act, but there aren't many. My point was simply that a person isn't necessarily good at everything that has to do with entertainment just because they can act.

I'm not relating this to Raven or anything...it's just a comment.

Dont' misconstrue what I'm saying, read carefully. I didn't say everybody is gone be good at everything they do, I said we are in no place to say what people should limit themselves to! I don't think you should just always try things you're good at, taking risks is apart of life.

[Hollow]

Originally posted by DollaBill
Actors sing, singers act, it's all about doing what you love. I can't agree that she's bad at it, because it's all about your ears and opinion on what sounds good. If they label themselves as 'entertainers', then I agree they should grasp every are of that genre.

Actors and singers are two completely different things. The only reason annoying teenies like hilary duff get record deals are because they're already actors and obviously their record labels need money. Just because they can act doesn't mean they can sing. If i was an engineer, would that automatically give me the ability and right to become a hair stylist? they're both types of services.

[david&maddie4ever]

Originally posted by safety pin
Actors and singers are two completely different things. The only reason annoying teenies like hilary duff get record deals are because they're already actors and obviously their record labels need money. Just because they can act doesn't mean they can sing. If i was an engineer, would that automatically give me the ability and right to become a hair stylist? they're both types of services.

[DollaBill]

Originally posted by safety pin
Actors and singers are two completely different things. The only reason annoying teenies like hilary duff get record deals are because they're already actors and obviously their record labels need money. Just because they can act doesn't mean they can sing. If i was an engineer, would that automatically give me the ability and right to become a hair stylist? they're both types of services.

Engineers and hair stylists are two totaly different things in what you're talking about, but if you were a hair stylist who wanted to become a make-up artist, it's still in the Cosmetology category. Singer and actors entertain, and I'm sure the buisness they're in is called ENTERTAINMENT industry! So what do broadway actors do that is so different from anybody else in the entertainment industry does? They sing, dance and act! I just don't agree with the fact that people should limit themselves to things because other people think "they shouldn't be doing it".

What am I not touching points with you people on?

[david&maddie4ever]

Originally posted by DollaBill
Engineers and hair stylists are two totaly different things in what you're talking about, but if you were a hair stylist who wanted to become a make-up artist, it's still in the Cosmetology category. Singer and actors entertain, and I'm sure the buisness they're in is called ENTERTAINMENT industry! So what do broadway actors do that is so different from anybody else in the entertainment industry does? They sing, dance and act! I just don't agree with the fact that people should limit themselves to things because other people think "they shouldn't be doing it".

What am I not touching points with you people on?

As I said, there are the special few who have the talents to both sing and act, but there aren't many. Hey...if you've got the talent, you should branch out! That's just usually not the case.

Basically, I don't believe that actors should automatically think, "I'm in the entertainment business...I can act, sing, dance, write, direct, and produce!" That's what seems to be happening in Hollywood these days.

[DollaBill]

Originally posted by david&maddie4ever
I don't believe

Key words. All I'm saying is it could never be, "you should not", that's all I mean. I understand you, undestand me?

[david&maddie4ever]

Originally posted by DollaBill
Key words. All I'm saying is it could never be, "you should not", that's all I mean. I understand you, undestand me?

Of course I understand you. I never said "you should not." What I actually said was this:

Originally posted by david&maddie4ever
Hey...if you've got the talent, you should branch out!

I don't think I ever implied that I was expressing any more than an opinion. If I did, than I apologize.

[Dean Winchester]

Originally posted by DollaBill
Key words. All I'm saying is it could never be, "you should not", that's all I mean. I understand you, undestand me?

but the thing is, 99% of the time... it's not that good. I think the reason J. Lo is now considered a joke in Hollywood is about 80% responsible about the music she put out. When she was doing movies like Selena and Out Of Sight, she had respect in Hollywood, not in a Jodie Foster or Meryl Streep way, but people did think she had talent, and people over 12 liked her movies. And then she started doing awful songs (yes, they were hits... but who still likes them? longevity is a major factor. Better to have a song people are still into in 5 years than make your millions and then have the cd relegated to used bins) like I'm Real and Jenny From The Block and her fanbase became progressively younger, and her lyrics got more and more banal, and those same people who thought she was great in Selena were laughing when she flopped in Gigli... because through her crappy music, she destroyed the credibility she had before she decided to open her yappers and try singing.

[BowWowsBreezy]

Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
but the thing is, 99% of the time... it's not that good. I think the reason J. Lo is now considered a joke in Hollywood is about 80% responsible about the music she put out. When she was doing movies like Selena and Out Of Sight, she had respect in Hollywood, not in a Jodie Foster or Meryl Streep way, but people did think she had talent, and people over 12 liked her movies. And then she started doing awful songs (yes, they were hits... but who still likes them? longevity is a major factor. Better to have a song people are still into in 5 years than make your millions and then have the cd relegated to used bins) like I'm Real and Jenny From The Block and her fanbase became progressively younger, and her lyrics got more and more banal, and those same people who thought she was great in Selena were laughing when she flopped in Gigli... because through her crappy music, she destroyed the credibility she had before she decided to open her yappers and try singing.

Thank You

[Superstar]

Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
yea, but once again, when actors go into music, it's usually just seen as a cute gimmick during the peak of their careers, and it usually never lasts. Bruce Willis is still a pretty big movie star, but yet he hasn't done a record in 15 years. Hell, John Travolta's still around and he hasn't done any music since Grease (he recorded a few albums before that movie during his days on Kotter). The problem with actors-turned-singers is that the albums are usually just vanity projects, nothing that really stays in peoples minds down the road.

I've yet to encounter an actor-turned-singer who takes the music thing seriously, as something they wish to make a long-lasting career out of.

I agree with you, but Raven has been putting out albums since she was 5. I'm just saying she's not copying every other Disney star out there, she's been doing it for 13 years

[Nikki_luv]

Originally posted by Superstar
I agree with you, but Raven has been putting out albums since she was 5. I'm just saying she's not copying every other Disney star out there, she's been doing it for 13 years

Right!, but people think it's ok for singers to do acting, but actors can't do singing?

I can't wait to get this, I love the last one, even though that was 99 and I was 12. Considerably my music tastes have changed, but I'm still gettin it.

[SBTB Geek]

Does anyone know if she's working with real producers/artists, or is she sticking to her Radio Disney crap?

In example... Hilary's album wasn't filled with "I Can't Wait," or "Why Not" trash- it actually had "real" radio-worthy songs like "Come Clean," and "So Yesterday."

[Hollow]

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