Case of the missing truck driver?

[Thiussat]

I state nothing as fact. I thought it was implied in everyone's posts here that their musings are simply a result of their opinions on the cases. I claim no affinity and/or intimate personal kmowledge to any of the cases listed on this board.

I still stand by the notion that mental illness is the most likely scenario in this case and in the Blair Adams case. Perhaps, in Williams' case it was a drug induced psychosis of some kind, but still a result of irrational behavior and not that of a kidnapper or hijacker. I see no evidence whatsoever that leads to any other conclusion in either case (based on the segments). If there is other info I am not aware of, I would like to see it presented.

[hollowmoll]

Originally Posted by Thiussat

This man was not murdered, he simply exhibited classic symptoms of a psychotic disorder, just like Blair Adams. These cases appear so bizarre precisely because no one wants to entertain the very real possiblity that these cases are simply the result of the onset of mental illness. Everyone wants to read something more mysterious into these cases, but the simplest explanation is that it was their own doing due to an illness.

I would wager his death was either a suicide or an accident due to his psychotic state of mind at the time.

What you state is ALSO very possible. I wasn't sold on the fact that he was murdered, anyway, but none of us know for sure. Why are you so sure it was mental illness? I could argue that it was probably a stroke or a heart attack.
-Maybe a mild stroke followed tragically by a cougar attack! I think it just rubs people the wrong way when you state things you don't know for sure as facts. It doesn't sound like there's 100% conclusive evidence to show he "was not murdered". There's not much to state anything except he's dead. I hope someday they find out...

[Chris Billings]

Hi Fellow Board Members:

I strongly agree with Thiussat's conclusion. (But love to hear differing views!!)

In my humble opinion, Devin suffered a mental breakdown. His odd behavior, drivng his truck into a wooded park area, talking to himself and striking a piece of wood for no apparent reason, is consistent with someone who is emotionally ill. It is possible this condition was caused by drug usage, but according to his family and co-workers, Devin was not a user, so I do not believe he was high.

As for a stroke or heart attack, this also does not seem likely to me. People who do usually have shortness of breath, pain in the arms and or legs, and may or may not fall down and become unconscious. Devin did not seem to appear to be in any physical pain.

Oh yes, one more important item. I dont know about the rest of you but I would prefer a message board where participants can express opinions freely, void of accusatory language. In short, I like to have fun and think we would be better off if we avoid personal remarks and instead keep the focus on the show. After all, I think everyone has something to offer and I don't want anyone to be scared off.

So keep posting and be nice to each other (Now I sound like my mother LOL). I really enjoy hearing from everyone!!

Christopher

[hollowmoll]

Originally Posted by Chris Billings

Hi Fellow Board Members:

I strongly agree with Thiussat's conclusion. (But love to hear differing views!!)

In my humble opinion, Devin suffered a mental breakdown. His odd behavior, drivng his truck into a wooded park area, talking to himself and striking a piece of wood for no apparent reason, is consistent with someone who is emotionally ill. It is possible this condition was caused by drug usage, but according to his family and co-workers, Devin was not a user, so I do not believe he was high.

As for a stroke or heart attack, this also does not seem likely to me. People who do usually have shortness of breath, pain in the arms and or legs, and may or may not fall down and become unconscious. Devin did not seem to appear to be in any physical pain.

Oh yes, one more important item. I dont know about the rest of you but I would prefer a message board where participants can express opinions freely, void of accusatory language. In short, I like to have fun and think we would be better off if we avoid personal remarks and instead keep the focus on the show. After all, I think everyone has something to offer and I don't want anyone to be scared off.

So keep posting and be nice to each other (Now I sound like my mother LOL). I really enjoy hearing from everyone!!

Christopher

True dat, true dat...I totally agree with you about his behavior; I don't think that it's consistant with a heart attack. I guess a minor stroke could cause some delirium but I doubt that as well. It definately sounds more like mental breakdown/illness but I was simply talking about what killed him. We still don't know what the cause of death was and as far as I know mental illness doesn't directly kill you. Most detectable signs of suicide wouldn't be found on just a skull (asphyxia, stabbing/cutting, non-cranial gunshot) and the condition of his was never stated so it still leaves many possibilities. Maybe I didn't do enough research but was the skull found near where he was last seen? If so then the suicide scenario would seem much more probable. If not, perhaps he slipped into mental illness and was later victimized because of it? I know I'm still reaching. I just like to explore all options ...no hard feelings on my end!

[Chris Billings]

Yeah, you are right hollowmoll, a person does not die due to a mental illness.

However, because he was not thinking rationally, it is possible Devin wandered off into the forest and died as a result of exposure. I'm simply speculating.

I dont know where his body was found in realtion to his truck and the article referenced in one of the previous posts does not mention the condition of the found skull. Did it have any fractures or holes indicating trauma or a gun shot wound? We need more info before a definitive conclusion can be constructed.

One more thing about UM cases involving mental breakdowns. Does anyone remember the UM story about the young investment broker or analyst who parked his car on the side of a desolate road and drifted into the desert and disappeared? His wallet was found along with a strange rock formation. Authorities concluded that this seemingly stable, healthy, and intelligent young guy suffered some kind of psychiatric episode. His bones were eventually found in the desert, miles from his car. This shows everyone (even normal, succesful types) has a breaking point.


Thanks for the feedback Hollowmoll, keep on posting!
Christopher

[Thiussat]

Let me just say this: I don't mean to come across as an "authority" here. I am merely stating my opinion based on what I know about the cases, which is almost always based on the UM segments. I enjoy the show for its entertainment and "creepy" value, but I also enjoy it just as much for its ability to make me think and attempt to solve mysteries (as its name implies.) I like posting here because it forces me to think and use logic which is something I have studied and something I like to do just for the "challenge" of it.

[Thiussat]

Guys, about his body, I believe I read that his skull was found at the bottom of a nearby cliff. Can anyone verify this?

If this is true, this leads one, easily, to the conclusion that he jumped (or perhaps fell accidentally.)

[hollowmoll]

Originally Posted by Thiussat

Guys, about his body, I believe I read that his skull was found at the bottom of a nearby cliff. Can anyone verify this?

If this is true, this leads one, easily, to the conclusion that he jumped (or perhaps fell accidentally.)

...Or was pushed!!! No, now I'm just joking. You're right, though. If it was found nearby then I'm convinced.

[LooksLikeCRicci]

I doubt it was a suicide. I do agree with the comment that was made earlier comparing Williams' behavior to that of a psychotic break. I also think it's possible that he could have suffered a stroke. I think he wandered away and was a victim of the elements.

[hollowmoll]

Originally Posted by Chris Billings

Yeah, you are right hollowmoll, a person does not die due to a mental illness.

However, because he was not thinking rationally, it is possible Devin wandered off into the forest and died as a result of exposure. I'm simply speculating.

I dont know where his body was found in realtion to his truck and the article referenced in one of the previous posts does not mention the condition of the found skull. Did it have any fractures or holes indicating trauma or a gun shot wound? We need more info before a definitive conclusion can be constructed.

One more thing about UM cases involving mental breakdowns. Does anyone remember the UM story about the young investment broker or analyst who parked his car on the side of a desolate road and drifted into the desert and disappeared? His wallet was found along with a strange rock formation. Authorities concluded that this seemingly stable, healthy, and intelligent young guy suffered some kind of psychiatric episode. His bones were eventually found in the desert, miles from his car. This shows everyone (even normal, succesful types) has a breaking point.


Thanks for the feedback Hollowmoll, keep on posting!
Christopher

Hey, thanks.
Hmmm, this case sounds vaguely familiar with the rock formation but that's about it. It does sound like another UM case: a heavyset, white-haired, bearded trucker who disappeared and then was reported seen wandering the streets dazed and confused. In a much later UM update it was announced that he was found alive and suffering from amnesia (in I believe another state) after years missing; claiming he recalled being hit over the head and possibly robbed...? -I do remember clearly that his wife never stopped searching for him and putting up fliers, but my memory on the rest of this case is still a little sketchy and it may have ended up being some fake-your-own-death thing.
-Does anyone have the details on this?

[Thiussat]

One more thing about UM cases involving mental breakdowns. Does anyone remember the UM story about the young investment broker or analyst who parked his car on the side of a desolate road and drifted into the desert and disappeared? His wallet was found along with a strange rock formation. Authorities concluded that this seemingly stable, healthy, and intelligent young guy suffered some kind of psychiatric episode. His bones were eventually found in the desert, miles from his car. This shows everyone (even normal, succesful types) has a breaking point.

Yes, I know exactly the case you mean. I forget the guy's name, but I remember several witnesses saying they had seen him and he was wondering aimlessly through the desert. I also remember one of the witnesses saying that he was chanting something like "got to find the beast" or something to that effect. If I recall correctly, wasn't he involved in some cult? Or maybe just studied some sort of cult?

[wiseguy182]

David Stone is the name of the guy that was wandering the desert and was aiming to "slay the beast"

Craig Williamson is the name of the guy who owned a fish business, and was robbed on a business trip and suffered amnesia.

hope this helps.

[Eire]

Some form of mental breakdown seems to be the obvious conclusion here. I like reading the thoughts of others that contradict that because they often bring up points I may not have considered. I'm still thinking either mental illness or mini-stroke type situation here. Maybe, and this is a big maybe, he gave in and took some drugs that day. He may not have had a history of drug use, but that doesn't rule out the possibility that he would try some. I don't want to generalize, but truckers do sometimes resort to "uppers" to get where they're going on schedule. He could have taken something that caused confusion and a mini-mental breakdown. I still think he wandered off on his own and died either as a result of a fall or suicide.

On a side note, I think that sometimes people don't want to explore the mental breakdown aspect because it's scary. We can't predict to whom it will happen or when. It could happen to anyone and that's pretty darn scary when you think about it.

[hollowmoll]

Originally Posted by wiseguy182

David Stone is the name of the guy that was wandering the desert and was aiming to "slay the beast"

Craig Williamson is the name of the guy who owned a fish business, and was robbed on a business trip and suffered amnesia.

hope this helps.

-Craig Williamson!! Thanks, wiseguy! I knew I'd remember his name when I heard it. I'm going to a little searching and see if I can't find more...
As for the David Stone case, I'm not at all familiar but intrigued. Maybe I'll look for an update on him as well. -But first I think I'll slay the beast that is hunger...

[skunk ape]

You two make some very valid points.

OT: hollowmoll, what is your avatar from? That guys looks to be doing unspeakable things to that microphone. He looks like the lead singer for Faith No More. Is it him?