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Old 12-26-2007, 09:37 PM   #166
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Lets just hope she handles this better than Britney.

It suprises me that she told her mom before thanksgiving and its just now leaking out into the world
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I don't think anyone, here anyway, thinks it's okay for a 16-year old to get pregnant. What I'm seeing is a 'what's done is done' attitude, and wishing her the best in an unfortunate situation. There's a difference.

The magazine article non-issue/issue again. She's going to show the first pictures of her baby to OK mag, and get a million bucks in the process. Who turns down a million bucks. At that point, she'll be delirious with joy over her child and why not show the baby off. For all we know, she may state in the interview that is would have been wiser to wait to get pregnant, but things happen. I doubt she's going to tell other teens to go for it. I think most of us have at least a couple of family members who had a baby at 17 or even younger. It's part of life. She's not carrying the spawn of Satan here. She got pregnant by accident. She's human, and it's not the end of the world.
That makes it even sadder (to me) that she is selling pictures of her baby for a million dollars, it’s not as if she's hurting for money. Back in the 20's 30's and 40's people were also getting married at a young age. They were more mature (I think) back in those days. People went to work at an early age, and they actually did hard labor work. I think that is why it was ok for people back in those days to get married and have children at such young ages.

I was in the grocery store Sunday and this little girl said, "Hey there's Zoey again" as she is pointing to the OK magazine, she looked all of 9 or 10 yrs old.

I think that she could have issued a statement if she wanted the facts out and to stop the rumors, She didn't have to do a whole spread about her getting pregnant and telling her mom. And now she's going to turn around and sell photos?? I never understood why celebs do that.

I understand that she and her boyfriend made a mistake, but that could have been avoided. I think that some teens think that it's ok to have a baby at an young age, they coo and aww at babies while they're newborns and toddlers. But those toddlers grow up to become teenagers, and the cuteness wears off fast. They have to take care of that little being for 18 years and some teenagers don't think about that.
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Old 12-26-2007, 11:56 PM   #168
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That makes it even sadder (to me) that she is selling pictures of her baby for a million dollars, it’s not as if she's hurting for money. Back in the 20's 30's and 40's people were also getting married at a young age. They were more mature (I think) back in those days. People went to work at an early age, and they actually did hard labor work. I think that is why it was ok for people back in those days to get married and have children at such young ages.

I was in the grocery store Sunday and this little girl said, "Hey there's Zoey again" as she is pointing to the OK magazine, she looked all of 9 or 10 yrs old.

I think that she could have issued a statement if she wanted the facts out and to stop the rumors, She didn't have to do a whole spread about her getting pregnant and telling her mom. And now she's going to turn around and sell photos?? I never understood why celebs do that.

I understand that she and her boyfriend made a mistake, but that could have been avoided. I think that some teens think that it's ok to have a baby at an young age, they coo and aww at babies while they're newborns and toddlers. But those toddlers grow up to become teenagers, and the cuteness wears off fast. They have to take care of that little being for 18 years and some teenagers don't think about that.
I'll never agree about a magazine article. Issue a statement or get a million bucks? Tough choice, lol. The argument sounds silly to me. It's a magazine article, and most celebs do it, and have for hundreds of years. A million dollars is a lot of money, to anyone. She's telling her story. We don't know her financial situation or what her future holds, workwise. She could be finished because of this, and that money will be needed, especially with a baby. If someone offered you a million dollars for an interview and some pictures, you might understand.

As for little kids and Spears, they learn sooner or later (and the sooner the better) that Hollywood is crazyland and things like this happen. Parents shouldn't have their kids looking to actors for role models anyway. As a kid, I adored Maureen McCormick from the Brady Bunch, but her personal life wasn't setting my life's agenda. If she got pregnant, I wouldn't think it was cool. If I did, my mother would straighten me out fast.

I don't think Jamie cares if anyone thinks it's okay that people used to get married younger 70 years ago, or the working theory. She works anyway, and has since she was 10. I'm sure it's long hours to film a show, and not as easy as it looks. As for the having kids to be cool thing, I know that happens, but not in this case. Not all pregnancies are avoidable either. Things happen. My best friend got pregnant while on the pill. When she told this to her doctor, he asked her if she had vomited that month. Turns out she had a cold, and had vomited a few times, tossing up the pills, resulting in pregnancy. Her son is in in college today. Condoms break, without people knowing. You never know.
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The less we hear about all the Spears family in 2008, the better!! However, I think we'll be hearing MORE than we did in 2007 - if that's possible!!!
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When I became sexually active my Gyno told me about an a ray of birth control. From the female condom Reality, IUD‘s, Condoms, Spermicides, Implants, the pill and Diaphragms. There are an aray of BC that parents don't educate their children about that‘s at their reach, there‘s other birth control besides the pill and condoms. And you can't stop little children from idolizing people that they watch on tv and in the movies, or read about in books. When I was little I wanted to live in Mr. Rogers neighbor LOL. You can talk to your little 6, 7, 8 or 9yr old about not looking up to someone that they see or read about, it's hard for some preteen and adolescents to separate reality from fiction sometimes. Back in the 50's and 60's movie stars use to keep their private lives private. You didn't hear about their sexual escapades. Just because you're in show business doesn't mean that you have to air your dirty laundry for the world to see. And I personally wouldn’t sell my newborns picture for a million dollars. My daughters newborn pictures are priceless to me, you can’t put a price on my children heads. If I were famous I would not sell my children photo’s to make a profit.

I'm not saying that just because you have children at an early age, that they won’t grow and become productive citizens. Kids should be having kids, plain and simple.
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^ Put a price on your children's heads? Good Lord Brie, such hyperbole, lol. Most celebs do it today, from Little Ricky Arnaz on the cover of TV Guide to the Cruises to Brooke Shields holding her cuddly ones, on and on. There's no shame in that. Because you wouldn't do that, doesn't mean it's wrong. Right, times have changed since the 50s. Whatever on that. That's good you got a lesson in birth control. My doctor wrote a script and pushed me out the door, which is what most docs do. Still, birth control often fails. That just happens.
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^ Put a price on your children's heads? Good Lord Brie, such hyperbole, lol. Most celebs do it today, from Little Ricky Arnaz on the cover of TV Guide to the Cruises to Brooke Shields holding her cuddly ones, on and on. There's no shame in that. Because you wouldn't do that, doesn't mean it's wrong. Right, times have changed since the 50s. Whatever on that. That's good you got a lesson in birth control. My doctor wrote a script and pushed me out the door, which is what most docs do. Still, birth control often fails. That just happens.

I think the best birth control you can give a teen is to tell them that at the end of pregnancy your stomach hurts, you can hardly breath, you can't get comfortable no matter how you sit or lay down. You can suffer horrible acid reflux, you can't bend over. You can suffer from morning sickness for 9 months

And after giving birth you can bleed for a month straight or even longer, your breast will hurt like there’s no tomorrow, your nipples can crack and bleed. You'll be sore for days like you've had the worst workout ever. You might suffer from depression, back aches, epidural headaches (worst headache).
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I think the best birth control you can give a teen is to tell them that at the end of pregnancy your stomach hurts, you can hardly breath, you can't get comfortable no matter how you sit or lay down. You can suffer horrible acid reflux, you can't bend over. You can suffer from morning sickness for 9 months

And after giving birth you can bleed for a month straight or even longer, your breast will hurt like there’s no tomorrow, your nipples can crack and bleed. You'll be sore for days like you've had the worst workout ever. You might suffer from depression, back aches, epidural headaches (worst headache).
That's good, Brie, and would probably do the trick. Another idea is to have them take care of a newborn for a week, with no help. The fussier the baby, the better.

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I think the best birth control you can give a teen is to tell them that at the end of pregnancy your stomach hurts, you can hardly breath, you can't get comfortable no matter how you sit or lay down. You can suffer horrible acid reflux, you can't bend over. You can suffer from morning sickness for 9 months

And after giving birth you can bleed for a month straight or even longer, your breast will hurt like there’s no tomorrow, your nipples can crack and bleed. You'll be sore for days like you've had the worst workout ever. You might suffer from depression, back aches, epidural headaches (worst headache).
Well, really, some teens make choices to have sex and there is nothing people can do about it. Teens are reproductive humans too. Yes, they are young and all, but i'm not gonna stress over it because its not affecting MY life. Its obvious by the various complaints by annoying pregnant women that it hurts and all and yes, i totally believe it. I'm sure most teens are aware of it, afterall they aren't braindead. Maybe from your experience teens are dumb but i knew teens who were pregnant and they suffered but i couldn't believe how much they've had a more positive outlook about it. It was hard for them, the birth, the after-effects you described, but they wouldn't trade their baby for the world. Again, i'm not saying that teens need to be pregnant, just agreeing with Janice that accidents happen, and i wish teens who are pregnant all the luck because they need it. You can say 16 is a child all you want, but once they have that kid they are forced to grow up anyway.
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Well, that would just make them NEVER want to have a baby...even when they are ready lol
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I totally agree with you. A 16 year old girl is way too immature and irresponsible to have a child, hell a 16 year old is still a child herself!

Actually, i know a few that are not immature and irresponsible, including myself when i was 16. I wasn't ready for a child, but i certainly wasn't immature and irresponsible. You can't say that about all 16 year olds, thats all.
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Actually, i know a few that are not immature and irresponsible, including myself when i was 16. I wasn't ready for a child, but i certainly wasn't immature and irresponsible. You can't say that about all 16 year olds, thats all.
I should've phrased that differently. Not all 16 year olds are immature, I wasn't, but they're not ready to have a baby.
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That's good, Brie, and would probably do the trick. Another idea is to have them take care of a newborn for a week, with no help. The fussier the baby, the better.



Or take them to the super market around 2 p.m. on a Saturday afternoon and watch all the little brats throw temper tantrums in the aisles for candy or small toys, screaming at the top of their lungs.

That's been my most effective birth control for decades now!


Funny, when I went to my (female Catholic) family doctor at age 18 for birth control she asked if I was planning on getting married within 3 months. I said no, and she said to come back when I was. I just walked out the door and said with that attitude, I'll be coming back when I need an abortion. As if her being Catholic and against pre-martial sex was going to stop ME from having it. It's attitudes like that, that end up in unwanted pregnancies. Wake up medical community!!!
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I should've phrased that differently. Not all 16 year olds are immature, I wasn't, but they're not ready to have a baby.

yeah, i knew you didn't, just was letting everyone know that. In case anyone really does have that mentality on this board. I just wish people had more faith in teens, because i trust several of them. My sisters are also mature, they make good grades and good choices because my parents are good parents. I have cousins though, on the other hand, who are the same ages as my sisters (16,15,14) who act like 2 year olds.
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yeah, i knew you didn't, just was letting everyone know that. In case anyone really does have that mentality on this board. I just wish people had more faith in teens, because i trust several of them. My sisters are also mature, they make good grades and good choices because my parents are good parents. I have cousins though, on the other hand, who are the same ages as my sisters (16,15,14) who act like 2 year olds.
It's true. I was very mature at 16. I even looked older. When I was 13, people thought I was 15 or 16. It was that way throughout my teens. I worked, got good grades and was very responsible. If I had a child, I would have been able to handle it. I'm glad it didn't happen, but it wouldn't have been the end of my world. I was almost 12 when my brother was born, and babysat and took him out all the time. I had the patience for it.
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