CBS Upfront: Fall 2008

[JulieSomoski]

Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood Fan

I do too. CBS has canceled a few shows that I liked because it skewed old....Shark,....Close to Home. Ratings overall weren't that bad either. I always got alot of flack because I liked Matlock and Diagnosis Murder too. I was much younger when I watched those though. lol

I still can't get over how they cancelled Close to Home - what was it getting, 11-12 million viewers on Friday nights? What a stupid decision that was on CBS's part.

Just to think - shows like Matlock and Diagnosis Murder would have been cancelled after 13 episodes nowadays. I'm sure their viewership ages were very high for the most part, yet still, they're considered some of the day's most popular shows. That's what makes me angry about television today. It's also why viewership is decreasing, and why shows that get 5 million viewers get renewed, whereas a show that got under 15 million viewers just 20 years ago were cancelled.

[Jude The Obscure]

I was a big fan of Diagnosis Murder--and most of its cast was under 50!
Networks don't care if a show is getting 20 million viewers, if 18 million of them are over 55, they will axe it. Meanwhile a show that barely gets 7 million will get renewed, just because over 6 million of them are under 30.
it's a very whack philosophy.

[Yobb]

Originally Posted by Jude The Obscure

I was a big fan of Diagnosis Murder--and most of its cast was under 50!
Networks don't care if a show is getting 20 million viewers, if 18 million of them are over 55, they will axe it. Meanwhile a show that barely gets 7 million will get renewed, just because over 6 million of them are under 30.
it's a very whack philosophy.

"The Mentalist" and "NCIS" are very close to be axe !

On the last airing :
"The Mentalist" : 19.62 million but only 5.28 million between 18-49 (27% !)
"NCIS" : 19.10 million but only 5.02 million between 18-49 (26% !)

I don't think today if a show is getting 20 million will be cancelled because of it's poor demo number. Around 10 million with poor demo maybe, but to have 20 million viewers is to be a huge hit this season whatever is your demo !!!

[Jude The Obscure]

You missed the point of my post.......and it was loaded with sarcasm.

[JulieSomoski]

I'll agree with that - no way will NCIS and The Mentalist be getting cancelled, even though their demos are only modest at best. 20 million viewers, especially on CBS where the demo isn't most important, is a bonafide hit nowadays.

But like you said, if a show's getting 10 million, but only a 2.0 demo or under, it'll get the ax. Just look at Women's Murder Club from last season - it was getting like 9 million viewers on a Friday night, but only a 1.8 demo, and ABC cancelled it.

[Scoobiedoo30]

NCIS and The Mentalist will return next season.

[Jude The Obscure]

I guess people missed the point of what I was saying......well, I think Julie got what I was meaning.

[JulieSomoski]

Originally Posted by Jude The Obscure

I guess people missed the point of what I was saying......well, I think Julie got what I was meaning.

I get what you're saying - today, demos are VERY important, probably most important to network ratings. If you look back at the ratings 20-30 years ago, they didn't matter at all. In fact, they didn't even exist. Networks looked at nothing but total viewer numbers, because that's all that mattered to them. If a show got 20 million it was a hit. But now, if a show gets 20 million and a 3.0 demo, it's not a hit. If a show gets 8 million viewers and a 4.0 demo, it is a hit.

[Jude The Obscure]

^Eggs Zack Lee

[Pavan]

Thursday, January 29, 2009
8:00pm Criminal Minds (R)

So there goes the theory Million Dollar Password would air Jan. 29 and Feb. 5 for its final two airings.

[JulieSomoski]

Originally Posted by pavanbadal

Thursday, January 29, 2009
8:00pm Criminal Minds (R)

So there goes the theory Million Dollar Password would air Jan. 29 and Feb. 5 for its final two airings.

What does CBS have against this show? So it had a low demo - just about every show they have has a rather low demo. Could they be saving it for Saturdays, or even the summer?

[Jude The Obscure]

Heck CBS didn't even burn off the remaining Power of 10 episodes did they?
Once again, CBS takes a good concept and trashes it. I've been enjoying the Best of Password DVD and would love to see it return in this basic, simple gameplay concept.

[Buffyboy323]

Sorry Julie....

EW's Michael Ausiello reports that CBS has decided not to go back to "Swingtown". The show is effectively canceled.

But Julie, on a more positive note....

CBS Entertainment president Nina Tassler has announced at the executive session of the CBS Winter Press Tour that the network will order another episode of "The Mentalist", bringing the first season's total to 23.

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/01/...ficial-cb.html

[Pavan]

More changes:

Wednesday, February 4, 2009
8:00pm Criminal Minds (R)
9:00pm KATIE COURIC: “ALL ACCESS” GRAMMY SPECIAL

Thursday, February 5, 2009
8:00pm The Big Bang Theory (R)
8:30pm How I Met Your Mother (R)

Sunday, March 1
9:00-11:00pm CBS Special Movie: JESSE STONE 5: THIN ICE

[JulieSomoski]

Originally Posted by Buffyboy323

Sorry Julie....

EW's Michael Ausiello reports that CBS has decided not to go back to "Swingtown". The show is effectively canceled.

But Julie, on a more positive note....

CBS Entertainment president Nina Tassler has announced at the executive session of the CBS Winter Press Tour that the network will order another episode of "The Mentalist", bringing the first season's total to 23.

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/01/...ficial-cb.html

So I heard - it was very expected, but now that its official, it just seems sad. Swingtown was a fantastic show, greatly written with emmy-deserving performances by all the actors, but unfortunately, it just didn't catch on in the summer. I have a feeling, though, that with the show being repeated on Bravo, and with the DVD out, more people might have discovered the show through these ways, but I guess CBS didn't feel the same way.

I wonder why they only ordered 1 more episode The Mentalist - should have ordered at least 2 to make it an even 24.