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Charley Project says that Tara's alternator belt was missing. My theory is that someone who knew her (or knew of her, having watched her at the club) tampered with her car and followed her. The only weird thing is that if this was a planned abduction, the abductor had no way of knowing that she was going to leave so early that night (which was unusual of her) and the escort said that no one followed her out of the lot that he could tell. Of course, it's possible that this person was waiting in the parking lot and sped off after her once the guard was inside, knowing her route home. That being said, I doubt it was Wayne. For one, we have the issue of time and distance. For two, he would have no need to cut her alternator belt to force her to pull over as they lived together. I just don't see how Wayne could have committed this crime and hidden her in a way to keep her from being found 20+ years later with the amount of time he had. My guess is that Tara got out of the car, locked it, and attempted to make it to a call box or recognized the abductor and trusted him enough to get in the car with him. I lean toward the latter, as a safety conscious woman like Tara would more than likely have taken her mace if she was going to walk along the highway in the middle of the night by herself to head to a call box. |
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I wish you guys could have known Wayne back then. I was at Fat Freddy's, the pool hall that night. He had more than enough time to do what what he needed. I am not sure when he left but I was leaving when he came back. I know this because at that time I avoided him. A few weeks earlier, we can gone to their apartment. Tara was there but he wasn't. I went we a friend of hers. When he came home and saw us there he was furious. He pulled me out and wanted to fight. He was convinced I was there to see Tara. We calmed him down. He was obsessive, controlling and rough with her. The car was running and working fine.
Don't speculate on the facts of the show. They are not all there. One thing you have to know, his demeanor after she went missing. It was real hard for him to act like he cared and it did not last long. I hope for her family, that she is found. I hope that one day, justice is served. |
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Has anyone ever thought this unidentified person was Tara??? I would think the police would have investigated this possibility since it was found weeks after Tara disappeared but on Namus it doesn't say they have ruled her out.
http://doenetwork.org/hot/hotcase1515.html |
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Sorry to say that I don't think it's a match. Seemed a bit promising at first, but for me, this is what makes her stand out as not being Tara. (Unless there's errors in the reported information, which isn't unheard of at all. For example, I've noticed that there's been quite a few cases where the person has numerous tattoos, and not even one is mentioned on the missing persons sites.)
Regarding the dental information that's available, Namus has Tara's but has not released info to the public. About the unidentified woman, DoeNetwork says: The anterior upper teeth are artificial, held in place by a temporary bridge. About Tara, CharleyProject says: Her two upper front teeth are discolored in the center. http://doenetwork.org/hot/hotcase1515.html http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...idge_tara.html |
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I was just wondering if anyone has ever heard she had scoliosis. I misread about the clothing. I thought both of them said blue jeans. One says blue jeans and the other says blue shorts. I am sure the police would have investigated this seeing as it was so soon after her disappearance and in the same town.
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The doe has "scoliosis of the lower spine" but it doesn't say how severe. Many people have minor scoliosis that's not really noticeable when they are dressed.
It's possible that Tara had minor scoliosis that she never confided about to anyone, but if the Doe's scoliosis is very obvious or severe, that would rule her out. Is the Doe you found on Namus? Do they have any ruleouts listed? |
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Yes on NamUs it listed Camora Grimes and Patricia Schmidt as ruled out. It doesn't say anything about Tara.
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Namus says they have DNA on this Doe, too. Only those two ruleouts mentioned above.
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/2655 |
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Just watched this segment again from a recent airing of UM on Lifetime. Amazed at how many responses there are from folks who knew Tara and Wayne. Thanks for the insight! The facts from the case, Hecker's comments on the segment combined with the responses on this thread definitely make me think he is responsible for her disappearance. If I had to bet my life savings on him being involved or a someone else I'd put it on him. Just my 2 cents. Wish they would find her or someone would confess so Tara's family and friends can get closure. This is one that will stick with me for a long time.
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i just saw the video for the first time today and read this entire thread and i am pretty damn sure he is guilty. his body language and demeanor are shifty as hell, the way he avoids questions with weird speels about the lord, he never says he didnt kill her or isnt guilty, all he pretty much says is he didnt commit a crime so cant be charged with one. he blinks alot and cant keep his eyes focused, he stutters around and jumbles up like he is trying to tell a story, he's not talking like he was remembering the events of that night.
Plus the missing for nearly 2 hours part is highly suspicious. i cant seem to work out by all the differing posts if there was actually anything wrong with the car. most say no and the rest say the alternator belt was missing or something. also was she driving in the direction of their apartment? or was she going to the pool hall. It seems kind of unlikely someone tampered with her car at the mens club, solely judging by the re-enactment, im not sure if that was filmed at the real place or not, but if it was like that there seemed to be too many people around to have been messing around taking parts out of a car without someone seeing them. It also seems really suspicious he HAPPENED to leave the pool hall at around the exact time she left work early. if he had no idea she was leaving early he would of stayed til 2 as usual. I think she contacted him. like one of the posters said, how could the manager know she made a call or not from the many phones available. She walked past the doorman without acknowledging him which was out of character, which i would take as maybe they had a fight over the phone and her mind was somewhere else, she told him she was going home, and something triggered him, maybe he wanted her to come to the pool hall and she didnt want to. if she volunteered to go home early maybe she was just tired or felt unwell and wanted to go home to bed. I highly highly doubt she was meeting up with someone, i mean how would she know the night was going to be so quiet that the manager would send 2 people home, and also that one of them would be her. there could have been another girl who needed to go. plus if she was meeting someone she would of had to been told she could go home, rang the person and arranged to meet, while knowing her boyfriend will be trying to contact her at 2 when she would usually finish, that leaves her like a hour to meet up with someone and then get back to the club or her apartment. it just doesnt make any sense to do that. Yes the admirer could have tampered with the car and then followed her home waiting for it to break down and give her a ride, but even that seems a little farfetched, the guy would of had to do it without anyone seeing, know she finished at 2. he wouldnt of known she would be let go early. then he was placing all his bets that the car would break down at a certain place away from people or help or even that it didnt make it home. it just seems too unlikely. plus if she is smart enough to carry mace, then she WOULD of had it in her hand or bag while getting out the car. i think the only way she would have gotten out of a car without putting the hazards and picking up her mace would be because it was her boyfriend. Which also he seems a bit suss because he is so adament on making sure the interviewer KNEW she carried mace and it was conveniantly sitting there in the car. so she MUST of known the attacker. i think he was trying to place blame on the admirer, conveniant. Also another thing the admirer sent her all these letters and signed them with his own name. it would lead the police right to him. and they cleared him so he obviously had a alibi. they havent cleared Wayne. Plus i find it odd that she kept them all. did they say where they found the letters? it seems so risky keeping them at her house with a boyfriend like that. And just one more thing i noticed, the way he was talking about not liking where she worked ""She was working before I met her in those kinds of places. And she loved the money and she loved the atmosphere and I guess that's just something you won't grow out of. And I'm not going to tell her where to work." that just seems odd to me. when friends and family have made it clear he didnt like where she worked. plus the male attention she would get, he seems like the type that would have made it very clear he DIDNT like that she worked there and saying he wouldnt tell her where to work seems to be something you would say to push blame away from you. if he was honest he would just be like, she knew i didnt like where she worked. i dont know. these are just my opinions and observations from reading the clues and watching that video. but i am definitely on the side that he did it. if no other facts, the biggest one for me is that he was unaccounted for for the time she vanished. and he doesnt have a alibi. why cant he say where he was? yes maybe there wasnt enough time that he could of killed her and disposed of the body..but who says he did it that night, he just needed the time to hide it well enough he could go back.or maybe he just got lucky. buried her or took her to one of the nearby swamps and he just got incredibly lucky she never was found. Also going back to the pool hall in the first place seems like a way to get a kind of alibi. if she was going home and he left to meet her and she wasnt there, why not wait there or go looking for her, ring the club after 2 and ask if she left, go back to the pool hall in case she turned up and ASK people if they had seen her...he didnt. according to him he stayed there til 5 and then drove home and saw her car...conveniant. if the few friends who have written on here are correct he would ring the club looking for her if she was a few minutes late.why on this night not ring? i wonder if the manager can back up the claims he always rang looking for her. there is just too much missing and suspicious in his accounts. i honestly just cant believe him. and there is too many friends of the family who say he was controlling and jealous including her mother who says on the show the realtionship was very rocky and she had made it clear she wanted to move out with or without him knowing. i really really hope her body turns up so there is some hope of this jerk to be held resopnsible |
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I have been reading through all the post. I was the manager of the Fat Freddies at the time of this ordeal. I knew Wayne quite well. I also knew Tara, admittedly not as well as wayne. Wayne did in fact leave the pool hall shortly after midnight. Wayne did not leave alone. Dennis Burns was with him. When the two returned they appeared to be trying to come in un-noticed.
Wayne and Dennis asked me several times to tell police that he never left. Being there and seeing they way the two acted it was not hard to come to the conclusion that Wayne was involved. It makes me sick that she has not been found. Later my wife (a waitress and my girlfriend at Freddie's back then) told me that she ran across Dennis Burns at which time they started discussing Tara and Wayne, suddenly told my wife that they kidnapped her and sold her into the sex slave business. The person who posted that Wayne was a cocaine dealer is in fact correct. Dennis was one as well. Knowing that I do believe it maybe possible thats what happened. But I really doubt that. Dennis has a brother named Chad. I don't believe Chad was involved. But I do think he was told by Dennis what really happened to her. I have heard that Dennis died from a drug over dose years later. I do not know for sure that is true, when my wife and I researched it there was records of a Dennis Burns dying of a drug over dose. I pray that the truth will come out about Tara. I truely pray that who ever is in fact to blame for her disappearance is found out and punished properly. Keep here story alive by posting and reposting to bring more attention and maybe something will happen. |
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Very interesting information. I still believe he was involved. I hope one day Tara is found to give her family some answers & peace.
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