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isiahthomas
02-17-2004, 06:29 PM
What makes a person homeless? I know the answer to that. Laziness. I don't feel sorry for no homeless person out here cause anytime a person would rather be homeless than go get a damn job, something is wrong. I see so many homeless people laying on the sidewalk & always bumming off of people for change. The situation is sad & america needs to do something about the situation. The people who work at these homeless shelters need to make these people get up off their asses & go find work. I don't understand how grown ass people would rather be on the streets with no place to stay & be broke. Only way to get yourself out of that predicament is by working. People always talk this s**t about people need to give back to their communities when all people are gonna do is mess up their own communities when u try to do something nice like putting up basketball nets on basketball rims at the park. Ignorant teenagers especially black teenagers gotta tear up the nets & hang on the rims to bend the rims. That is so ignorant. Homeless people need to make something out of themselves instead of expecting a handout all the time. Welfare needs to be cut out also. That way people on welfare & getting food stamps will get up off their lazy asses & try to find a job.

MandieR1980
02-17-2004, 06:39 PM
let the flaming begin:

Hollow
02-17-2004, 06:39 PM
I totally agree. if they dont have an education they can go get a damn job at mcdonalds.

Kristina
02-17-2004, 06:43 PM
I agree, I said that to my mom once before when I saw all these homeless people and she got mad at me. Seriously, before they got homeless they should have been working two jobs at least and living somewhere affordable, there is always something to do before you end up on the streets. And these people were obviously too lazy.

Bang A Gong
02-17-2004, 06:44 PM
Homeless people annoy me. They either rob you or beg you for food or money. Every time I see one I just want to say, "No bitch, you aren't getting any soup from me!" Seriously, they should go get jobs. They are perfectly capable of working at Goodwill or some fast food joint or something like that that doesn't require that much talent or intelligence.

Also, they smell bad.

Bang A Gong
02-17-2004, 06:44 PM
Damnit. Double post. :grr:

MandieR1980
02-17-2004, 06:46 PM
I hope it doesn't happen to any of you you'll are too ignorant. You really think companies are gonna hire people like that? Well they don't that's why they continue to be homeless and alot of them can't afford to go out and buy clothes to wear to work or to interviews. Part of being human is caring about other people I feel sorry for all of you.

isiahthomas
02-17-2004, 06:48 PM
Sourbabie i sent u a pm message. Thanks for agreeing with me. There's this liquor store that i go to in the hood every other week cause i'm a cigarette merchandiser for Marlboro cigarettes & everytime i go there, there's always a bunch of black bummy lookin dudes standing in front of the store. I say to myself, they ain't got nothin else better to do but hang in front of a store all day? They do the same thing at this grocery store i go to.

Hollow
02-17-2004, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by MandieR1980
I hope it doesn't happen to any of you you'll are too ignorant. You really think companies are gonna hire people like that? Well they don't that's why they continue to be homeless and alot of them can't afford to go out and buy clothes to wear to work or to interviews. Part of being human is caring about other people I feel sorry for all of you.
They weren't born homeless. It's their fault they ended up like that.

MandieR1980
02-17-2004, 06:53 PM
You all must be teens cuz you have no clue. If you really think working at McDonalds or any low paying job is gonna pay for an apartment, food, clothing and electricity you have alot to learn.

Hollow
02-17-2004, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by MandieR1980
You all must be teens cuz you have no clue. If you really think working at McDonalds or any low paying job is gonna pay for an apartment, food, clothing and electricity you have alot to learn.
It's called saving up money.

Rhiannon
02-17-2004, 06:56 PM
It pisses me off even more the people who pretend to be homeless so they can get money. I saw this guy on the side of the road one time trying to get money from people. Later that day I saw that same guy get into a nice car and I followed him to see where he went: to his nice house.

Kristina
02-17-2004, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by MandieR1980
I hope it doesn't happen to any of you you'll are too ignorant. You really think companies are gonna hire people like that? Well they don't that's why they continue to be homeless and alot of them can't afford to go out and buy clothes to wear to work or to interviews. Part of being human is caring about other people I feel sorry for all of you.

And what about before they got homeless?

Jenya
02-17-2004, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by safety pin
I totally agree. if they dont have an education they can go get a damn job at mcdonalds.

Don't you need at least a high school diploma to qualify for a job at McDonalds? Or am I wrong?

Kristina
02-17-2004, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by MandieR1980
You all must be teens cuz you have no clue. If you really think working at McDonalds or any low paying job is gonna pay for an apartment, food, clothing and electricity you have alot to learn.

Then you work two jobs, get a roommate, do anything possible to keep where you live. It is possible.

MandieR1980
02-17-2004, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by Kristina
And what about before they got homeless?

alot of these people lose their homes or they get kicked out. They don't have money to save.

we have to realize that we all have it easy and count our blessings but it's nice to do something for people who really need it. My cousin went to a ball game and they had some homeless people outside and she bought them some ice cream.

There are very few good jobs out there trust me I know I have one of the worst jobs I've been there for almost 3 years and I'm only making $8.21 if my mom wasn't here for me I'd be out on the street just like these guys and alot of you would be too if it weren't for your parents. If you have a high paying job you are either very lucky or you were able to go to college and these people can't afford homes do you think they can afford college?

AKA
02-17-2004, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Jenya
Don't you need a highschool diploma to qualify for a job at Mc Donalds? Or am I wrong?

No diploma required.

I think it's easy to criticize homeless people when you've never experienced firsthand what it's like to not have somewhere warm to stay. It has nothing to do with laziness. A lot of these people got dealt a bad hand, through no fault of their own. A great example of this happening in epidemic proportions is the film Roger & Me (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098213/), a documentary chronicling the closure of a GM plant in Flint, MI.

I really think most of you will change your opinions once you get out on your own and discover how hard it is to support yourself.

-*Leah*-
02-17-2004, 07:05 PM
I agree that it is wrong for people that actually have money to get out and beg, just to have money for alcohol.and whatever else, but there are some people that really are homeless. They get in a bad situation, say they loose their job, causing them to loose their home. Sometimes its hard for people to find work, especially if you don't have money to make yourself look presentable...and that puts them in to a spiral, where they can't find a job, and become worse off.


I know that some people are really just lazy, but sometimes, this may sound nieve, I do feel sorry for them. Especially if there are children around, and I realize that they could just be using kids to make people feel sorry for them, but I don't think everyone is like that. I don't know, maybe thats an ignorant way to think, but thats just my opinion on the situation.

Bang A Gong
02-17-2004, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by MandieR1980
I hope it doesn't happen to any of you you'll are too ignorant. You really think companies are gonna hire people like that? Well they don't that's why they continue to be homeless and alot of them can't afford to go out and buy clothes to wear to work or to interviews. Part of being human is caring about other people I feel sorry for all of you.
They can find SOME type of job, no matter how miniscule. They could lay hot tar on a roof or sale newspapers at a news stand. They could live in a shelter or something like that until they save up enough money to take care of themselves. None of this, "Will work for food" crap. How about they get off their damn asses, get a job, work for money, and buy their own food? Now there's an idea.

Jenya - No, you don't have to have a high school diploma to work at McDonalds. A friend of mine used to work there back when she was 16 and in 11th grade. Another boy I once knew worked there at age 17 and was in 12th grade.

MandieR1980
02-17-2004, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by Sourbabie
Jenya - No, you don't have to have a high school diploma to work at McDonalds. A friend of mine used to work there back when she was 16 and in 11th grade. Another boy I once knew worked there at age 17 and was in 12th grade. [/B]

yes and they also got to go home to a house and a home cooked meal too

AKA
02-17-2004, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Sourbabie
They can find SOME type of job, no matter how miniscule. They could lay hot tar on a roof or sale newspapers at a news stand. They could live in a shelter or something like that until they save up enough money to take care of themselves. None of this, "Will work for food" crap. How about they get off their damn asses, get a job, work for money, and buy their own food? Now there's an idea.

It's not that easy. And like I said, the above easy to say if you've never been in a homeless situation before. Sometimes, there simply aren't any jobs to get or any shelters to stay at.

Hollow
02-17-2004, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by AKA
No diploma required.

I think it's easy to criticize homeless people when you've never experienced firsthand what it's like to not have somewhere warm to stay. It has nothing to do with laziness. A lot of these people got dealt a bad hand, through no fault of their own. A great example of this happening in epidemic proportions is the film Roger & Me (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098213/), a documentary chronicling the closure of a GM plant in Flint, MI.

I really think most of you will change your opinions once you get out on your own and discover how hard it is to support yourself.
1. Find a safehouse and stay there.

2. Go around town and find a job, no matter how small the amount of money they get is. It could be just holding up a sign all day.

3. Buy some food, and save some of your money.

4. Repeat until you can afford shelter.

it is possible.

MandieR1980
02-17-2004, 07:21 PM
:rolleyes:

AKA
02-17-2004, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by safety pin
1. Find a safehouse and stay there.

2. Go around town and find a job, no matter how small the amount of money they get is. It could be just holding up a sign all day.

3. Buy some food, and save some of your money.

4. Repeat until you can afford shelter.

it is possible.

That's easy to say when you're supported by your parents (ah, to be young again), but I'm afraid it's just not that simple.

¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
02-17-2004, 07:29 PM
Yes, its possible to save up and get back on track, but it doesnt happen as fast or as easily as you guys make it sound. No one truly knows what its like to be homeless until you yourself are the one outside looking in, wondering if youre going to survive the winter.

The only problem I have with WIC and EBT/Foodstamps is that (some) of the people who use them smoke too. I work at a grocery store and it pisses me off to know end when I see someone pay their cigarettes with an EBT card. I cant believe when I see a girl about 18-20 years old buying baby food with WIC and then after buys cigarettes. Two years ago I was bagging for a lady and she bought alcohol, baby food, and a bunch of other food. Needless to say, she was short on cash. Instead of taking out the beer, she started taking out the baby food. I was distgusted. The lady behind her insisted on buying the baby food for her. Nice gesture on her part, but that lady shouldve known better. People need to get their priorities straight.

Hollow
02-17-2004, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by AKA
That's easy to say when you're supported by your parents (ah, to be young again), but I'm afraid it's just not that simple.
well they could still live in a safehouse.

Bang A Gong
02-17-2004, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤
Yes, its possible to save up and get back on track, but it doesnt happen as fast or as easily as you guys make it sound. No one truly knows what its like to be homeless until you yourself are the one outside looking in, wondering if youre going to survive the winter.

The only problem I have with WIC and EBT/Foodstamps is that (some) of the people who use them smoke too. I work at a grocery store and it pisses me off to know end when I see someone pay their cigarettes with an EBT card. I cant believe when I see a girl about 18-20 years old buying baby food with WIC and then after buys cigarettes. Two years ago I was bagging for a lady and she bought alcohol, baby food, and a bunch of other food. Needless to say, she was short on cash. Instead of taking out the beer, she started taking out the baby food. I was distgusted. The lady behind her insisted on buying the baby food for her. Nice gesture on her part, but that lady shouldve known better. People need to get their priorities straight.
If I was homeless and unable to find work, I would kill myself. Why suffer? Why make other people suffer by causing the entire world to reak with my nasty smelling body? Why make other people put up with my constant begging? I would just run in front of an eighteen wheeler truck or impale myself on a stop sign [after ripping off the sign part, of course].

I agree with you on people who use the whole Welfare thing in the wrong way. I know of people who give away their food stamps in exchange for drugs. Sick people who disgust me and don't deserve to even exist.

°Bubbly Blonde°
02-17-2004, 07:40 PM
I kind of agree too, actually....I gave this one homeless, toothless man who was begging for money a little bit of money...like, ten dollars, when I was on vacation once because I felt sorry for him....and all he did with it was go in this store and beg for liquor, like really loud...then he got kicked out and started running around like crazy and begging someone for more money, and yelling the white man is corrupt or something. It was just sad. I do, however, think that some people are on welfare because they dont have any other way to survive. I dont think that everyone that is on welfare is a total bum or whatever, but the ones that are really make me sick...

¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
02-17-2004, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by °Bubbly Blonde°
I kind of agree too, actually....I gave this one homeless, toothless man who was begging for money a little bit of money...like, ten dollars, when I was on vacation once because I felt sorry for him....and all he did with it was go in this store and beg for liquor, like really loud...then he got kicked out and started running around like crazy and begging someone for more money, and yelling the white man is corrupt or something. It was just sad. I do, however, think that some people are on welfare because they dont have any other way to survive. I dont think that everyone that is on welfare is a total bum or whatever, but the ones that are really make me sick... Yeah, people like that give homeless people and people on welfare a bad reputation. Not every homeless person is looking to buy alcohol. Some need $$$ for their families.

AKA
02-17-2004, 07:51 PM
A rule I follow is that I never, under any circumstances, give money to panhandlers. Instead, I make an annual contribution for a local homeless charity.

O.Takashowah
02-17-2004, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by safety pin
It's called saving up money.

Didn't you just say in another thread that you never plan on getting a job, and you plan to live at home forever? What do you know about saving money then? Hmmmmm? Homeless people may have had what you never hope to aspire to: WORK ETHIC, RESPONSIBILITY, CARING FOR OTHERS as well as themselves. Many cases of homelessness happen to people who DID have good paying jobs and homes. They LOST their jobs, they LOST their homes, and their families rejected them. Some suffer from mental illness (I'll refrain...:D ) It's amazing how ignorant some people can be when they say "it's ALL their fault" and "they smell bad." Unbelieveable, you people! Not a shred of compassion. And the only way you'll know is when your ass gets tossed out on the streets and you are sleeping over a subway grate to stay warm. Yeah...and I know your pat answer is coming "Who gives a ****??" :rolleyes:

~Tropical Punch 19~
02-17-2004, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by AKA
A rule I follow is that I never, under any circumstances, give money to panhandlers. Instead, I make an annual contribution for a local homeless charity. Yes, instead give them a coupon to a fast food restraunt or something useful.
My opinion on this issue is that someone can be homeless for awhile, but should not use that as an excuse to stay around and have everyone else support them. They should try to get back on their feet as soon as they can. Yes, it is possible to go from rags to riches-well maybe not rich, but stable.

Bang A Gong
02-17-2004, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by O.Takashowah
Didn't you just say in another thread that you never plan on getting a job, and you plan to live at home forever? What do you know about saving money then? Hmmmmm? Many cases of homelessness happen to people who DO have good paying jobs and homes. They LOSE their jobs, they LOSE their homes, and their families reject them. Some suffer from mental illness (I'll refrain...:D ) It's amazing how ignorant some people can be when they say "it's ALL their fault" and "they smell bad." Unbelieveable, you people! Not a shred of compassion. And the only way you'll know is when your ass gets tossed out on the streets and you are sleeping over a subway grate to stay warm.
Yes, she said that. What's your point? She didn't say she would leave home, get a job and try to support herself. Because if she did that than she could lose her job and possibly end up homeless. She said that homeless people need to save up money. HOMELESS people. Many of whom left home to take care of themselves and ended up without food, clothing and shelter. So unless she said that people who choose to live at home for the rest of their lives need to save up money, than your argument is no good.

And a lot of people who end up homeless are raging alcoholics and/or drug addicts and it's their own goddamn fault that they screwed up their lives. Had a bit too much to drink? Smoked too much crack? Well then they lost their job, they got kicked out of their homes, everyone hates them for being a screw up. It's as simple as that. That's why you see so many of them on the streets begging for money just to waste it on booze and drugs. They probably won't change their ways unless some kind of miracle happens, and we all know that miracles only exist in crappy, corny, melodramatic television shows like Touched By An Angel.

¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
02-17-2004, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Sourbabie
Yes, she said that. What's your point? She didn't say she would leave home, get a job and try to support herself. Because if she did that than she could lose her job and possibly end up homeless. She said that homeless people need to save up money. HOMELESS people. Many of whom left home to take care of themselves and ended up without food, clothing and shelter. So unless she said that people who choose to live at home for the rest of their lives need to save up money, than your argument is no good. Any parent that would support their child throughout adulthood without them getting a job has rocks in their head.

Bang A Gong
02-17-2004, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤
Any parent that would support their child throughout adulthood without them getting a job has rocks in their head.
That is very true. It is also a different story, but it's true nonetheless. There is a time when parents have to let their little babykins out into the freaking world, but so many of them just can't let go of precious little Amy or dear sweet Michael. How annoying.

JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo
02-17-2004, 08:32 PM
Sound like you are all a bunch of spoiled children. Jeez. It's not that easy to "GO OUT AND GET A DAMN JOB" when there is one, people like you all out there, and two, there is this little "Address and Telephone Number" you have to fill out on the application... many employeers look down on those who can't fill that in. yes, there is a way to get out of a slum, and yes there are some homeless people that have choosen to be proffesional homeless people, but there are those who have not chosen that life, and they are just doing the best they can with the hand they were dealt.

Another thing, the orignal post was full of sterotypes and extremem discrimination.

Must be nice to have no bills and be supported by parents.

(spelling errors possible in the above post :))

O.Takashowah
02-17-2004, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Sourbabie
That is very true. It is also a different story, but it's true nonetheless. There is a time when parents have to let their little babykins out into the freaking world, but so many of them just can't let go of precious little Amy or dear sweet Michael..

Or sweet, precious little....Safety Pin?? :lol:

Must be nice to have no bills and be supported by parents.

Nice "work" if you can get it! I wonder what they do all day?

Bang A Gong
02-17-2004, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by O.Takashowah
Or sweet, precious little....Safety Pin?? :lol:



Nice "work" if you can get it! I wonder what they do all day?
Would you shut up about Sarah already?

And what do they do all day? Well, most of them sit around on their greasy asses. And their feet smell like garlic.

Hollow
02-17-2004, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by O.Takashowah
Didn't you just say in another thread that you never plan on getting a job, and you plan to live at home forever? What do you know about saving money then?
:rolleyes: YES, I SAID THAT. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?

I said that homeless people need to get jobs and save money so they can support themselves.

I said that im gonna live at my house and never get a job. What in hell does that have to do with saving money?

There is a difference between being jobless and staying at home, and being jobless and sitting on the street corner begging other people for money. I am not asking people to go out of their way to contribute to me. If i ever end up alone, i'll get a job and support myself. I wont make a sign and throw myself out on to the street. Now, for the last time...

GET OFF MY F-CKING BACK AND STOP CRITICIZING ME LIKE YOU KNOW ME PERSONALLY.

EricIdlefan
02-17-2004, 11:48 PM
Jobs are very hard to find these days due to three million jobs lost and the economy!!

MandieR1980
02-18-2004, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by safety pin
:rolleyes: YES, I SAID THAT. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?

I said that homeless people need to get jobs and save money so they can support themselves.

I said that im gonna live at my house and never get a job. What in hell does that have to do with saving money?

There is a difference between being jobless and staying at home, and being jobless and sitting on the street corner begging other people for money. I am not asking people to go out of their way to contribute to me. If i ever end up alone, i'll get a job and support myself. I wont make a sign and throw myself out on to the street. Now, for the last time...

GET OFF MY F-CKING BACK AND STOP CRITICIZING ME LIKE YOU KNOW ME PERSONALLY.

and YOU dare call homeless people "lazy"? you make me laugh if you think other people are gonna support you for the rest of your life you will someday have a rude awakening.

~*Hannah_Lee*~
02-18-2004, 12:28 AM
There are some homeless people out there who I'm sure have a lot of responisbility for ending up in their position, however I feel sorry for them. Maybe they made a few terrible mistakes and that's what has caused them to end up there. So many of you say for them to "just get a job," but its not that simple. In the area where I live, jobs are scarce and the people who recieve job openings are not always the ones who need them most. Many homeless people are not in good mental health, either. That definately prevents them from getting a job or being able to move themselves up in the world. No one is ever homeless on purpose...and those who pretend to be for extra money, maybe they'll really be put in that situation some day.

~LadyJess~
02-18-2004, 12:56 AM
Weren't we just talking in another thread how hard it is to find a job without experience? And here we go stereotyping people again. I'm not saying some homeless people don't abuse the system just to be lazy and not work because there are, but there are plenty of people out there who are homeless and on welfare because they have to be. A job at McDonald's isn't enough to buy clothing, shelter, food, etc. especially if it is a homeless family. Sure, anyone can save money, but it takes an awful lot of time to save up a decent amount of money to live off from a minimum wage paying job.

Rebel Queen 1980
02-18-2004, 01:51 AM
I live in a small town so I don't very many homeless people,but
I do see alot people collecting like empty soda cans for extra money everyday,There is hunger going like crazy in my town
because during Thanksgiving or Christmas when my dad and I
squeeze in the only open store in town to pick up last minute
items for mom,I saw a man was buying a box of mashed potatoes,and he said that was his dinner.He said that was the
only thing he could afford to buy to eat,I travel to the big cities and watch the homeless people begging for money under the
overpasses,I read those signs,and think why do we ignore
these people,but then again I say it's their problem.But I've
never learned not to judge people because sometimes when
you say hate someone or something it becomes part of life.
So you know we gotsa to like people,no matter how they are.

spunkygirl
02-18-2004, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by safety pin
They weren't born homeless. It's their fault they ended up like that.

Wow ignorancy is sure running rampant on this board tonight.

That's not true in every case. There can be alot of reasons a person is homeless. I know people who work 3 or 4 jobs and still struggle to make the rent and stuff like that, and yes most graduated high school.

You make it seem like it's easy to get a high paying job, it's not! You can have a degree and experience and still not get hired. Plus the cost of living is up.

So there's tons of reasons people can be homeless, and like another poster said, employers aren't gonna hire someone that doesn't have an address, and so on and so forth, I hope you are never homeless, then again, maybe experiencing something like that would teach alot of people something :mad:

spunkygirl
02-18-2004, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by safety pin
:rolleyes: YES, I SAID THAT. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?

I said that homeless people need to get jobs and save money so they can support themselves.

I said that im gonna live at my house and never get a job. What in hell does that have to do with saving money?

There is a difference between being jobless and staying at home, and being jobless and sitting on the street corner begging other people for money. I am not asking people to go out of their way to contribute to me. If i ever end up alone, i'll get a job and support myself. I wont make a sign and throw myself out on to the street. Now, for the last time...

GET OFF MY F-CKING BACK AND STOP CRITICIZING ME LIKE YOU KNOW ME PERSONALLY.

:lol: You wonder why people are criticizing you? Because you set yourself up for it. You bash homeless people, and accuse them of all kinds of thing, but IMO it's people who don't want to do anything with their lives that are worse than anything, at least you have a choice, homeless people don't always have that luxury.

BTW, where are you gonna get the money to stay in your house forever? You gonna sit in the dark and listen to the silence? I've known people who've said the same thing, and they sure found out the hard way that it doesn't always work out like they plan, where are you gonna be when most of your family is gone, who's gonna support you then? Social Security? Hardly, you've gotta work to earn S.S. I. :lol:

dawsongirl
02-18-2004, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by Vera Wang
It pisses me off even more the people who pretend to be homeless so they can get money. I saw this guy on the side of the road one time trying to get money from people. Later that day I saw that same guy get into a nice car and I followed him to see where he went: to his nice house.

omg...what a lowlife.

dawsongirl
02-18-2004, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤
Any parent that would support their child throughout adulthood without them getting a job has rocks in their head.

I was gonna say I knew someone, but then I realized he does have a job. But yeah...when I graduated college, I wanted to just stay at home. But my folks were like, yeah right, and handed me the classifieds.

dawsongirl
02-18-2004, 02:52 AM
Originally posted by O.Takashowah
Or sweet, precious little....Safety Pin?? :lol:


Do you come here for the sole purpose of bad-mouthing Sarah? Because that is completely immature.

dawsongirl
02-18-2004, 02:54 AM
Originally posted by Topanga
Hardly, you've gotta work to earn S.S. I. :lol:

Or marry someone who works and get theirs when they die.

isiahthomas
02-18-2004, 11:43 AM
I've been to a homeless shelter before to visit a friend & believe me it's not a pretty sight. There were so many homeless men sharing bunk beds. I hope i never end up in a homeless shelter cause that is a scary feeling to be around a bunch of homeless men who u don't even know. U gotta take a shower around these dudes & that's really scary. I read a article in the newspaper about this black girl who graduated from college in Florida & she moved to Washington DC to get a job & she had a hard time finding work for a long time. So now she lives at a homeless shelter & she has a son. That was such a sad story to read. Here is a girl that has a college degree & living in a homeless shelter. That goes to show u how really rough it is out here to find work even when u got a college degree.

O.Takashowah
02-18-2004, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by safety pin
:
There is a difference between being jobless and staying at home, and being jobless and sitting on the street corner begging other people for money.

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that, sweetie. NOW GO GET A JOB!!! :wave: :lol: :lol: How are you SAVING money when you ain't EARNING ANY???? All this time posting defending yourself and your Loaf-Headed comments could be used toward writing a resume and making some appointments. :wave:

EricIdlefan
02-18-2004, 01:35 PM
I am afraid sometimes to give the homeles money because they might spend the money on beer, cigarettes, and/or drugs!! I would just buy them some food and soft drink!!

Hollow
02-18-2004, 03:47 PM
and YOU dare call homeless people "lazy"? you make me laugh if you think other people are gonna support you for the rest of your life you will someday have a rude awakening.
Yes they are lazy if they sit on the street all day for money instead of getting a job and earning their own. and my dad says he doesnt care if i never move out, which i never will.

Hollow
02-18-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by O.Takashowah
Yeah, you keep telling yourself that, sweetie. NOW GO GET A JOB!!! :wave: :lol: :lol: How are you SAVING money when you ain't EARNING ANY???? All this time posting defending yourself and your Loaf-Headed comments could be used toward writing a resume and making some appointments. :wave:
Oh look, you even know whether i have a job or not! It's so funny how much you know about me through a few posts. :rolleyes:

What do you mean i "keep telling myself that"? Care to justify? Choosing not to make money is one thing, asking people to GIVE you money is another.

I already have a job which is cleaning the house for $4 a week so stop making assumptions you sh-trag. im 14, i dont need a full time job. and FYI before you say im contradicting myself by not wanting a job yet having one, i meant that im never gonna move out, get a full time job to support myself etc. $4 a week is enough for someone my age.

Oh and i noticed you took out the part where i told you to leave me alone in your quote. I guess you just cant get enough of me, can you! :)

Ewan's My Man
02-18-2004, 04:28 PM
My dad's an eye doctor, I've grown up spoiled, but I do feel bad for people without homes. I know that because of MY lifestyle, I'll work hard when I'm grown up so I can live the same (or similar) kind of life. However...people who didn't have a life like mine, who grew up on welfare and a father who was arrested on drug charges and a mother who drank and couldn't keep a job...what are THEY being taught? Sure, one person could say, how NOT to live, but some people don't see that, people with those kind of lives will have trouble graduating (they might haveta help take care of their brothers and sisters) unless their mega-smart they will have trouble getting a scholarship and going to college, they're in a rut to begin with. And a McDonalds salary will hardly pay for a person to live. And many employers DO turn them down. I know it's not easy. So unless a person is deliberately being lazy and they could care less, I will continue to for sympathy for those without homes.

Czas na Zywiec
02-18-2004, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by dawsongirl
omg...what a lowlife.

yea, same thing happened to me a few years back. I was with my brother, aunt, uncles, and cousin at a McDonald's in Zakopane, Poland. We just left and wanted to get a picture of us on the boardwalk. So I was trying to zoom in the camera when this old woman walks by. I didn't think anything about it until she suddenly stopped, a few meters away from where my family was standing against the wall, only to sit down and pull out a carboard sign that read "Broken leg. Please spare some change" in Polish. When she walked by, she walked perfectly fine - didn't even have a cane to support her. She was most likely a gypsie, though, cause their known to wander the streets and beg for money, food, etc., of tourist areas in most of Europe.

EricIdlefan
02-18-2004, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Ewan's My Man
My dad's an eye doctor, I've grown up spoiled, but I do feel bad for people without homes. I know that because of MY lifestyle, I'll work hard when I'm grown up so I can live the same (or similar) kind of life. However...people who didn't have a life like mine, who grew up on welfare and a father who was arrested on drug charges and a mother who drank and couldn't keep a job...what are THEY being taught? Sure, one person could say, how NOT to live, but some people don't see that, people with those kind of lives will have trouble graduating (they might haveta help take care of their brothers and sisters) unless their mega-smart they will have trouble getting a scholarship and going to college, they're in a rut to begin with. And a McDonalds salary will hardly pay for a person to live. And many employers DO turn them down. I know it's not easy. So unless a person is deliberately being lazy and they could care less, I will continue to for sympathy for those without homes.

I was the youngest and was spoiled to! There is a saying that says the oldest sibling gets picked on and the youngest is spoiled. There are some people that are homeless who buy their food stamps and what's left of their money for beer, cigarette, and/or drugs. Sorry your dad was arrested and sorry you are living like this!! I worked at Wal-Mart for four months and the management doesn't treat their employees(in particular the part-time and/or female cashiers) like denying them a raise and trying to get rid of them to keep the money to themselves and try to point out the employees mistakes and negatives!!

Lodee
02-18-2004, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by O.Takashowah
Yeah, you keep telling yourself that, sweetie. NOW GO GET A JOB!!! :wave: :lol: :lol: How are you SAVING money when you ain't EARNING ANY???? All this time posting defending yourself and your Loaf-Headed comments could be used toward writing a resume and making some appointments. :wave:

What is the matter with you? :eek: You have issues.

EricIdlefan
02-18-2004, 04:44 PM
It is hard to find work due to the economy and giving away work to foreign countries!!

felicitylen
02-18-2004, 04:45 PM
People are homeless for different reasons and to make a judgement on them is wrong. People could have lost their jobs, homes, etc. which could have put them in a position to beg on the streets or live in a shelter. No one want's to be homeless.

I was watching a program on PBS, and they were interviewing this family that had lost their home because their father was laid off from his job. There was no other income coming in and this family ened up losing their home. The two older kids had some of the same views about homeless people that many of you all have on here, but when it happened to them, their story changed. They knew how it felt to have everything and anything you wanted to losing everything and going from shelter to shelter.

FrithFan89
02-18-2004, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by safety pin
They weren't born homeless. It's their fault they ended up like that.

actually some people are. so they cant get an education, and noone will hire someone without an education.

dawsongirl
02-18-2004, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by O.Takashowah
Yeah, you keep telling yourself that, sweetie. NOW GO GET A JOB!!! :wave: :lol: :lol: How are you SAVING money when you ain't EARNING ANY???? All this time posting defending yourself and your Loaf-Headed comments could be used toward writing a resume and making some appointments. :wave:

Who the hell has a resume as a high school freshman?? Man you are ignorant.

Hollow
02-18-2004, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Topanga
:lol: You wonder why people are criticizing you? Because you set yourself up for it. You bash homeless people, and accuse them of all kinds of thing, but IMO it's people who don't want to do anything with their lives that are worse than anything, at least you have a choice, homeless people don't always have that luxury.

BTW, where are you gonna get the money to stay in your house forever? You gonna sit in the dark and listen to the silence? I've known people who've said the same thing, and they sure found out the hard way that it doesn't always work out like they plan, where are you gonna be when most of your family is gone, who's gonna support you then? Social Security? Hardly, you've gotta work to earn S.S. I. :lol:
First of all, i told him to get off my back because he's been critcizing me and getting on my case siance day one. and my dad can support me. he said he doesnt care. if he wants me to support myself more though, i'll probably get a part-time job or something and i will.

Hollow
02-18-2004, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by dawsongirl
Who the hell has a resume as a high school freshman?? Man you are ignorant.
:rofl: omg i know..... ever since he came here he's been acting like he's known me his whole life. :lol:

PZelda
02-18-2004, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by dawsongirl
Who the hell has a resume as a high school freshman?? Man you are ignorant.

:nod:

O.Takashowah
02-18-2004, 08:09 PM
How the **** should I know how old this creature is? It's IGNORANT to assume I would. If it's just a HS freshman, then perhaps it has time to shape itself up!

PZelda
02-18-2004, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by O.Takashowah
How the **** should I know how old this creature is? It's IGNORANT to assume I would. If it's just a HS freshman, then perhaps it has time to shape itself up!

"It"? MY ASS. F*ck you :)

Hollow
02-18-2004, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by O.Takashowah
How the **** should I know how old this creature is? It's IGNORANT to assume I would. If it's just a HS freshman, then perhaps it has time to shape itself up!
Why are you calling me an "it" and a "creature"? What did i do to you? you sound like an 11 year old trying to be a big bad tough guy. :rolleyes:

AND SINCE YOU DIDNT KNOW HOW OLD I WAS, IT'S IGNORANT TO ASSUME MY AGE! :lol:

O.Takashowah
02-18-2004, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by safety pin
Why are you calling me an "it" and a "creature"?

Well you DO call yourself a "Safety Pin" right? That doesn't suggest you're human. :wave:

PZelda
02-18-2004, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by O.Takashowah
Well you DO call yourself a "Safety Pin" right? That doesn't suggest you're human. :wave:

Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

FREAK. :rolleyes:

Hollow
02-18-2004, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by O.Takashowah
Well you DO call yourself a "Safety Pin" right? That doesn't suggest you're human. :wave:
You are single-handedly the stupidest person ive ever encountered with if you actually thought i was implying that i was a real safety pin.

And hey i find it funny how you're taking out parts of my posts to avoid responding to them. :wave:

O.Takashowah
02-18-2004, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by safety pin
You are single-handedly the stupidest person ive ever encountered with if you actually thought i was implying that i was a real safety pin.


Yes you're right. You're more like a roto rooter. Or a wood chipper. Change your name, will yah? Safty Pin is too soft and sweet. :lol:

Lodee
02-18-2004, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by O.Takashowah
How the **** should I know how old this creature is? It's IGNORANT to assume I would. If it's just a HS freshman, then perhaps it has time to shape itself up! Well you ignorantly assumed she was old enough to have a resume, so I guess you answered your own question. :rolleyes: What an idiot. Each time you come back you bring new meaning to the word. Give up! Get a life! Geez how pathetic are you?

Hollow
02-18-2004, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by O.Takashowah
Yes you're right. You're more like a roto rooter. Or a wood chipper. Change your name, will yah? Safty Pin is too soft and sweet. :lol:
:rotflmao: See, YOU DID IT AGAIN! You keep on editing parts of my posts out so you can avoid responding to them. Just admit it, you wanted someone to insult and pick fights with, and you picked me. I've done nothing to you and there's NO REASON for you to hate me. I can't wait to see which parts of this post you're gonna try to run away from.

dawsongirl
02-18-2004, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by O.Takashowah
Well you DO call yourself a "Safety Pin" right? That doesn't suggest you're human. :wave:

Perhaps you're that stupid little rat creature in your avatar. How the hell would I know? :p

dawsongirl
02-18-2004, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by O.Takashowah
How the **** should I know how old this creature is? It's IGNORANT to assume I would. If it's just a HS freshman, then perhaps it has time to shape itself up!

Two words: Pay attention.

It's completely moronic to start battling with someone you know nothing about. Bad debating technique.

dawsongirl
02-18-2004, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by safety pin
You are single-handedly the stupidest person ive ever encountered with if you actually thought i was implying that i was a real safety pin.


:rofl:

PZelda
02-18-2004, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by safety pin
You are single-handedly the stupidest person ive ever encountered with if you actually thought i was implying that i was a real safety pin.

:rofl:

Ewan's My Man
02-18-2004, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by EricIdlefan
I was the youngest and was spoiled to! There is a saying that says the oldest sibling gets picked on and the youngest is spoiled. There are some people that are homeless who buy their food stamps and what's left of their money for beer, cigarette, and/or drugs. Sorry your dad was arrested and sorry you are living like this!! I worked at Wal-Mart for four months and the management doesn't treat their employees(in particular the part-time and/or female cashiers) like denying them a raise and trying to get rid of them to keep the money to themselves and try to point out the employees mistakes and negatives!!

I never said my dad was arrested...I said that a person whose father might have been arrested and a mother who can't keep a job isn't very likely to have good lessons being taught to them. And a person whose living like that is very doubtful to be sitting around posting here. The thought of my dad being arrested actually AMUSES me...he's gotten 1 speeding ticket on the way to my Grammy's funeral his entire life...

And, I'm actually the OLDEST, and I'm spoiled just b/c I can be...my parents can afford it...and sometimes I haveta make sure that doesn't go to my head.

Titania
02-18-2004, 11:03 PM
Wow, nice thread.

We have one homeless person in my (very very small) town. Actually, he has a home, he just likes to walk around the streets wearing tin foil on his head. He inherited all this money the other year and is in the newspaper occasionally because he is our only "homeless person."

Nanny Fine
02-18-2004, 11:26 PM
I just sit here and shake my head reading this thread. I cannot even believe what I'm reading.

I could be homeless....tomorrow. I have a child I'm supporting on my own. I don't get child support (I'm supposed to but the jackoff doesn't pay it) and I work my butt off at a job I like but am underpaid to do. I barely make $6.00 an hour. With that $6/hour I have to pay my rent, feed my kid (I do get $78 in food stamps a month. SEVENTY EIGHT DOLLARS FOR TWO PEOPLE A MONTH), cloth her, make a car payment, pay for gas to get back and forth to work, keep my utilities on, and do anything else necessary to get by. My costs per month exceed what I make without child support. I pay one bill one month and blow another off, while paying the one I blew off the next month and blowing off the one I paid prior. It would be so easy for me to fall so far behind I couldn't catch up.

I dont have family to rely on. My parents could give a crap about us. I could be living in my car and my mom would say "make sure you run the heater in it at night".

I have a high school education and a year of college. I'm not stupid and I have a job I absolutely love.

But it's HARD to make it on your own when you have NO ONE to fall back on. My passion is taping...watching TV...being online. I dont drink, go out, party...nothing. I work, spend time with my kid and do my TV stuff. But it could change so fast and it's not because I don't try, it's not becasue I'm lazy and it's not because I'm stupid.

THINGS HAPPEN. That homeless person you laughed at tonight could have been a me in my situation. They don't just decide to sit on the streets.

There are so many people who have so very much growing up to do. It frightens me that some of these people are considered the "future" of our country. :eek:

tanquant
02-19-2004, 03:13 PM
Nanny Fine I can feel your pain because I am going through the e same thing instead I have two children. Also I am supposed to receive child support but he isn't paying either since he filed for income tax I will be receving some of that money. My mom stays10 minuites away from me and she could care less either. She won't even keep them for me to go to work. It really, really is hard trying to make it out there. I cant believe that you only get $78 dollars in food stamps! Where do you live?I live in North Carolina and I recieve $313. I also don't go out partying, drinking, ect. I go to work look at t.v. and thankfully enjoy sitcomsonline which I just got back because I had to let it go. I was going to the library to keep up but I couldn't post. So hang in there us single moms have to be strong for the sake of the children. :)

EricIdlefan
02-19-2004, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by tanquant
Nanny Fine I can feel your pain because I am going through the e same thing instead I have two children. Also I am supposed to receive child support but he isn't paying either since he filed for income tax I will be receving some of that money. My mom stays10 minuites away from me and she could care less either. She won't even keep them for me to go to work. It really, really is hard trying to make it out there. I cant believe that you only get $78 dollars in food stamps! Where do you live?I live in North Carolina and I recieve $313. I also don't go out partying, drinking, ect. I go to work look at t.v. and thankfully enjoy sitcomsonline which I just got back because I had to let it go. I was going to the library to keep up but I couldn't post. So hang in there us single moms have to be strong for the sake of the children. :)

I am so, so, sorry you don't have a high-paying job and sorry that your creep of a boyfriend/husband isn't very, very, considerate of not just you but your KIDS!! And sorry since your mom is close and it is so, so, sad what you have to deal with and Nanny Fine!!
Let us know what we can do for you and others like you and Nanny Fine!!

Hollow
02-19-2004, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by safety pin
:rotflmao: See, YOU DID IT AGAIN! You keep on editing parts of my posts out so you can avoid responding to them. Just admit it, you wanted someone to insult and pick fights with, and you picked me. I've done nothing to you and there's NO REASON for you to hate me. I can't wait to see which parts of this post you're gonna try to run away from.
:rofl: he never replied. wimp.

IownTheDivision69
02-19-2004, 08:46 PM
homeless people are mentally ill. Yep!

bandito
02-19-2004, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by safety pin
:rofl: he never replied. wimp. Try moving on.

TheHappyBurgerMeister
02-19-2004, 09:40 PM
I was listening to something on the radio a few weeks ago and it was about people who HAVE jobs but they are homeless. It's just that their jobs don't pay enough for a house or apartment! One lady said that working full time for 15 dollars and hour is NOT enough money to live on your own. I find that very hard to believe! I don't know if this lady lives in New York City, but where I live that IS enough money! She can come move here and she'll find a place!

Nanny Fine
02-19-2004, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by TheHappyBurgerMeister
I was listening to something on the radio a few weeks ago and it was about people who HAVE jobs but they are homeless. It's just that their jobs don't pay enough for a house or apartment! One lady said that working full time for 15 dollars and hour is NOT enough money to live on your own. I find that very hard to believe! I don't know if this lady lives in New York City, but where I live that IS enough money! She can come move here and she'll find a place!

I'd feel like I was making a million dollars if I made $15 an hour.

PZelda
02-19-2004, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by TheHappyBurgerMeister
I was listening to something on the radio a few weeks ago and it was about people who HAVE jobs but they are homeless. It's just that their jobs don't pay enough for a house or apartment! One lady said that working full time for 15 dollars and hour is NOT enough money to live on your own. I find that very hard to believe! I don't know if this lady lives in New York City, but where I live that IS enough money! She can come move here and she'll find a place!

:nod: I gotta agree w/ you on that one... :)

TheHappyBurgerMeister
02-19-2004, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Nanny Fine
I'd feel like I was making a million dollars if I made $15 an hour.

Me too! Heck, I'd feel like that if I made 10 bucks an hour! That lady sure is greedy, I think! You don't have to live in a gorgeous penthouse to make a living!

Hollow
02-19-2004, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by bandito
Try moving on.
Why do i need to "move on"? i just said that he didnt reply, its not like im gonna be laughing about it 10 years from now.

dawsongirl
02-19-2004, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by TheHappyBurgerMeister
I was listening to something on the radio a few weeks ago and it was about people who HAVE jobs but they are homeless. It's just that their jobs don't pay enough for a house or apartment! One lady said that working full time for 15 dollars and hour is NOT enough money to live on your own. I find that very hard to believe! I don't know if this lady lives in New York City, but where I live that IS enough money! She can come move here and she'll find a place!

But she might not be able to make $15/hour in the midwest. Her job might only make $10/hour here.

ConservativeBalla
02-23-2004, 09:59 AM
I agree with isaiahthomas to some extent. I don't think charities or homeless shelters go should be closed down, God wants us to help ALL people. But I heard a caller on Rush Limbaugh's show talk about how they had a program where they do help out poor people at a shelter, but they also require the people to find a job and try different places, and if they don't, the people at the shelter turn them away. It's tough love, they may not realize it, but they're getting helped out. Kinda like a parent grounding/spanking/disciplining their kid, the kid may not understand it, but it helps them out.

PZelda
02-23-2004, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by ConservativeBaller
I agree with isaiahthomas to some extent. I don't think charities or homeless shelters go should be closed down, God wants us to help ALL people. But I heard a caller on Rush Limbaugh's show talk about how they had a program where they do help out poor people at a shelter, but they also require the people to find a job and try different places, and if they don't, the people at the shelter turn them away. It's tough love, they may not realize it, but they're getting helped out. Kinda like a parent grounding/spanking/disciplining their kid, the kid may not understand it, but it helps them out.

I've heard about it before, and I've been all for that idea for a long time.

MandieR1980
02-23-2004, 02:34 PM
because they have nothing better to do with their lives so they have to judge other people

EricIdlefan
02-23-2004, 03:28 PM
The most I have ever made an hour was $7.51 in my nearly 30 years on this earth!! Boy you all make me jealous!!

Hollow
02-23-2004, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by lifesuxorrox
I'm just curious, I'm not critisizing. but, why do many people here hate homeless people with a passion ? I can't say I really like homeless people, but I don't hate them that much.
I dont hate them, they just piss me off when theyre too lazy to get jobs and ask other people for money.

because they have nothing better to do with their lives so they have to judge other people
...which is exactly what you're doing.

alienxg7
02-27-2004, 01:46 AM
Quit being so discriminatory against the homeless! :mad:

People who are homeless can't always help that. Some of them have mental problems and don't have family to help them. Others may have been laid off from their jobs and unable to find work. There are many reasons.

I am not and have never been homeless but it makes me sick and want to puke when I am reading your obscene comments. You are saying terrible things without even really knowing what it is like to be homeless so BUG OFF!

:rolleyes: :mad:

This thread shouldn't have even been started because all it is doing is promoting stereotypes.

Hollow
02-27-2004, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by alienxg7
Quit being racist JERKS! :mad:

People who are homeless can't always help that. Some of them have mental problems and don't have family to help them. Others may have been laid off from their jobs and unable to find work. There are many reasons.

I am not and have never been homeless but it makes me sick and want to puke when I am reading your obscene comments. You are saying terrible things without even really knowing what it is like to be homeless so BUG OFF!

:rolleyes: :mad:

This thread shouldn't have even been started because all it is doing is promoting stereotypes.
:rofl: RACIST jerks?!?! lmao. a racist is someone who discriminates against skin color you dumbass. and OBSCENE comments? :lol: you apparently dont know what that means either so whatever.

alienxg7
02-27-2004, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by safety pin
:rofl: RACIST jerks?!?! lmao. a racist is someone who discriminates against skin color you dumbass. and OBSCENE comments? :lol: you apparently dont know what that means either so whatever.

I meant people will being discriminatory against homeless people.
So what, you know what I mean!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
Yes, some people's comments were obscene.

Anyway, I don't want to argue about this; I just wanted people to realize that what they were saying is stereotype and discriminating.