What do you think?

Yep.

It depends on how hard. I think a little tap on the hand or behind is OK. But I don't agree with the use of paddles, belts, razor straps etc.

I belive parents should whip there kids, but not beat them or make brusies

i believe that you should only spank your kids with your hand. Don't use an object. Cause your hand will also feel the burn and you will know when to stop. You can't feel how hard you hit with an object. :confused: If you don't spank your kids turn into brats.

(just my opinion)

I've always been an out of control brat, I think I should've had more discipline. When my dad would hit me I'd just hit him back, though he used to beat me and even got the police called on him a few times... I deserved that. :D

So, yep. I think parents should whip their kids, like Monarc said they'll be brats if you don't.

OMG STORYTIME IF U DONT MIND LOZLZ

at a restaurant like 8 or 9 years ago my dad pulled down my pants in the parking lot and started hitting my butt with a belt in front of everyone. :rotflmao:

Originally posted by Mijada
It depends on how hard. I think a little tap on the hand or behind is OK. But I don't agree with the use of paddles, belts, razor straps etc.

I agree. When I was little I was only spanked with my DAD's hand. I'm glad to say he never used a belt or any other objects.

Originally posted by MonarC
i believe that you should only spank your kids with your hand. Don't use an object. Cause your hand will also feel the burn and you will know when to stop. You can't feel how hard you hit with an object. :confused: If you don't spank your kids turn into brats.

(just my opinion)

I agree. Just your hand. NO OBJECTS. PLEASE. (I voted yes on the poll) I was spanked as a kid and my parents used their HANDS and nothing else.

no.

I say no, too. I was never ever spanked. Never. I have a good amount of discipline and I am certainly not a brat. (If I do say so myself. :D) Maybe it's just the way I am, but I never needed a spanking to get me in line. ohno:

When I have a kid, I don't think I could even consider hitting him/her. :o

~Lauren

:sheep

No. Doesn't really do anything. Just makes the kid afraid to do it again because they're gonna get spanked, they don't really realize what they did wrong.

If my mom hits me I hit her back. When I was younger she never really hit me. I was such a momma's girl :grr:

Anyways, I say no. Smacking a kid isn't going to teach them anything. They'll just remember it and as they get older, and hold it against you. Or they'll just hate you.

No. I was never spanked and most people I know don't spank their kids. There are other ways to discipline children without hitting them.

I say yes. The world would be a lot better place if parents made the effort to discipline their kids when they needed it. If that means a spanking, then fine. Or it could be a time out or taking away a privelege. There are too many kids today who are in control of the parents and the parents just give in to them to keep the peace.

I spanked my kids when they needed it. I got spanked when I was a kid. My Mom told me that all she had to do was to threaten to spank me and that's all it would take for me to straighten up!
Here's a good one! My dad made my younger brothers go outside and get their own switches off a tree. Then they got it! :lol:

I may sound old fashioned but that's how I was brought up and I turned out ok! Kids need discipline! Look at the mess we have now days because of the lack of it!:rolleyes: And I agree, don't beat the kids! That can really be a bad thing.:(

I think whipping should be a last resort. My mom would punish us and take away given privellages, but I was bad so I got hit with whatever was in her hand, but that was only after she had punished me and everything.

People do so many things to kids now of days, it's hard to actually choose, without being in that situation yourself.

I am definitly gonna discipline my kids, only as a last resort though. In three steps:
1. Talking
2. Punishment
3. The butt and leg stinger;)

Supreme Court Of Canada Upholds, But Limits Spanking
Justices deeply divided in 6-3 decision


CANADIAN PRESS (http://www.cp.org/)

Saturday January 31, 2004

OTTAWA—Parents should not be slapped with criminal charges for every slap on a child's bottom, the Supreme Court of Canada says.

But for the first time, the high court has issued guidelines that say spanking teenagers or children under age 2, hitting a child in the head, or using objects like belts or rulers are actions that go too far.

In a deeply split 6-3 decision, the court ruled yesterday the so-called "spanking" defence in Canadian law does not protect or excuse "outbursts of violence against a child motivated by anger or animated by frustration."

Still, parents, their stand-in caregivers, and teachers may use reasonable force if it is for "educative or corrective purposes," Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin wrote for the majority.

"The reality is," wrote McLachlin, that without such a defence, Canada's "broad assault law would criminalize force falling far short of what we think of as corporal punishment, like placing an unwilling child in a chair for a five-minute "time-out."

Lawyers for the federal government and conservative-minded "family values" groups applauded the ruling.

"Parents can breathe a sigh of relief today that they will not be criminalized for lovingly disciplining their children," said Michael Martens, of Focus on the Family, one of several groups that intervened in the case as the Coalition for Family Autonomy.

"It doesn't give parents free rein at all. In fact, it provides the clarity that is necessary to tell parents exactly what they can and cannot do," said Roslyn Levine, a lawyer with the federal justice department.

"As the chief justice said, this allows parents to know exactly what the risk zone is, and I think the court was very clear on what those guidelines are."

But the ruling surprised and disappointed some children's advocates.

"The social science evidence didn't go so far as to say it's okay to hit a child over 2. Where's the magic number? It's arbitrary, isn't it," said lawyer Paul Schabas who represented the Canadian Foundation for Children, Youth and the Law, the advocacy group that launched the original court challenge.

"To the extent that they (the judges) are relying on the social science evidence, the evidence is that it's never okay to hit a child, even on the government side. That's the irony of this."

McLachlin conceded courts have "sometimes been unclear and inconsistent, sending a muddled message as to what is and is not permitted" under Section 43 of the Criminal Code.

That's the section that protects parents and teachers against assault charges when they use force that is "reasonable under the circumstances." It's a defence that has been on the books in various forms since 1892, a section dissenting Justice Louise Arbour said is no more clear now than it was then.

So the majority of high court judges attempted to spell out just what can and cannot be done in the name of discipline.

They set stricter limits on teachers, saying they must not use force as punishment, only to remove a disruptive child from a classroom or get children to comply with instructions.

The law, the court said, is aimed only at "sober, reasoned uses of force that address the actual behaviour of the child, and are designed to restrain, control or express some symbolic disapproval of his or her behaviour."

Furthermore, the child must be old enough to understand why they are being hit; not disabled or incapable of learning from the "corrective" disciplinary action; and not harmed by it.

Citing expert evidence, the court said corporal punishment harms children under 2 who don't learn from it, and teenagers because "it can induce aggressive or antisocial behaviour."

The ruling by the country's top judges, all of whom are parents or grandparents, reflected divisions in the country over how children ought to be disciplined.

McLachlin, along with justices Charles Gonthier, Frank Iacobucci, John Major, Michel Bastarache, and Louis LeBel said the protection of law may be invoked only in "the mildest forms of assault."

They found it does not infringe on the rights of children, is not too vague, and properly kept families and educators out of the criminal courts in minor cases, while protecting children from abusive treatment.

To criminalize minor "corrective" behaviour by adults that does not harm a child "would harm children more than help them," the court wrote.

"The decision not to criminalize such conduct is not grounded in devaluation of the child, but in a concern that to do so risks ruining lives and breaking up families — a burden that in large part would be borne by children and outweigh any benefit," McLachlin said.

Justice Ian Binnie dissented in part, saying he would not have extended any defence to teachers who use force. Binnie said while order in the schools may be a legitimate objective, it doesn't justify "immunity for the criminal assault of children."

But in a stinging dissent, Justice Arbour said the problem is lower courts have never consistently determined when discipline crosses the line into abuse or assault, resulting in an unconstitutionally vague law that should be re-written by Parliament, not the court.

Justice Marie Deschamps agreed and went further, saying the law also infringes a child's equality rights to the equal protection of the law.

It "perpetuates the notion of children as property rather than human beings and sends the message that their bodily integrity and physical security is to be sacrificed to the will of their parents, however misguided," Deschamps wrote.

Children's advocates yesterday said while they were encouraged the court moved to narrow what kind of physical discipline is allowed, it still sends the wrong signal.

Peter Dudding, of the Child Welfare League of Canada, said the ruling is the "worst case kind of scenario."

"The research does show that in many cases of child abuse, it started off rather more innocently with the good intentions around the discipline or physical punishment, but ends up in a situation that's out of everybody's control and where children are harmed."

He said while the court finds the law constitutional, "that doesn't say then that the law should remain the same. Public opinion changes as we gain evidence and knowledge about these things, so I think the battleground will now shift to our political leaders and doing what is right on behalf of children."

Two private members bills to outlaw spanking have failed in recent years in Parliament, but Dudding said Prime Minister Paul Martin should undertake to review the law. Marvin Bernstein, director of policy development for the intervener, Ontario Association of Children's Aid Societies, said he was disappointed the court did not strike down the law, noting it has been successfully used to justify situations "where children have suffered significant injuries after being hit with belts sticks, extension cords, in some extreme cases, even a hammer and a horse harness."

"The bottom line is that there is still a defence in the Criminal Code," he said, adding it will be difficult for social workers trying to educate parents to convey the nuances of the judgment, especially in cases where they are trying to educate parents not to use force on children.

"Many parents think they have absolute immunity," he said. "How does this get conveyed?"

Bernstein said the court took account of some social science research, but noted the literature is "rife with examples" of the effects physical punishment has on children. He said it is linked to aggressive behaviour toward peers, and to those children being over-represented in the youth and adult criminal justice systems. Such children risk becoming abusive parents and spouses, and often develop mental health problems, and are at "risk of alcoholism, and anxiety disorders."

But Brent and Paula Whaley, who home-school their four children, and who support one of the groups in the Coalition for Family Autonomy, cheered the ruling. They took daughter Victoria, 13, to the foyer of the high court yesterday to watch and speak to reporters.

"Every child is different," said Paula. "And there are children who are wilful, and when they're toddlers and when they're younger children, we believe that corporal punishment has been effective in our home."

Victoria, whom her mother said never had to be spanked, added: "I know that my parents always loved me and that I've always been safe, and I agree that the law should be upheld, for families in next generations, and if I had any kids I would discipline them in love."

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No

I don't mean child abuse, but a spanking now and then in cases waranting it is good for the child. I was spanked on occassion, and I never thought it was abuse, and I grew up fine.

Hell, when I was little, we used to get the belt and I turned out fine. I knew I never wanted to see that thing again, so I did my damndest to behave. I don't I'd ever use a belt or anything, but a spanking with a hand is really nothing.

Yes. Im totally against giving whippings and beating up the kid, but a spanking can do a lot of good. Nowadays, its 'politically incorrect' to give out spankings and such, and now if someone sees a parent give one @ a store.. they call the police and have them arrested. Its stupid.:rolleyes: Spankings though should only go up to a certain age-- 5 I would say.

yes

I was never spanked as a child- but I was a pretty quiet kid, didn't ever really ask for it. But I do think that a lot of kids need more discipline than theyre being given.

I didn't vote because I'm in between, but the way I see it is if the kid is like under 5 or 6 years old DON'T do it at all, but around 6-12 it's OK, as long as it's not completely slapping them really hard! Under 5 years old is too traumatic and over 12 is just um... too gross! I know my mom had spanked me like once or twice, but I was never messed up by that.

Oh, and where I went to grade school they had a policy that they used the "paddle" on really bad kids. I went their from 1988-1998. Last I heard they still use it! It's a private Christian school and they still use a paddle on kids! I guess because some verse in the bible says "Spare the rod...." can't remember the rest. It was rarely used. It was done only if they were desperate, but I know when they did it the principal needed a witness and one time when my mom was helping out at the school SHE had to be the witness. She felt terrible. So, I know when you register at the school you have to sign this consent form to allow your child the punishment if they need it. It's a bunch of crap if you ask me- especially in a public place (or actually in a private school).

yes, spanking should be allowed but nothing along the lines of beating or physical abuse

Originally posted by Penny Lane
I spanked my kids when they needed it. I got spanked when I was a kid. My Mom told me that all she had to do was to threaten to spank me and that's all it would take for me to straighten up!
Here's a good one! My dad made my younger brothers go outside and get their own switches off a tree. Then they got it! :lol:

I may sound old fashioned but that's how I was brought up and I turned out ok! Kids need discipline! Look at the mess we have now days because of the lack of it!:rolleyes: And I agree, don't beat the kids! That can really be a bad thing.:(

I agree. I was spanked as a kid and I turned out fine. I really think a spanking, with the hand only, is the only thing that can get through to a kid 2-5 years old. They can't really comprehend that they shouldn't do that again if you jsut tell them but if you give them a little spank it will get through to them not to do it again because they don't want to get hit again.

Don't believe in spanking because it just does nothing but believe in grounding.

First offense: Two weeks
Second offense: A month
Third offense: Six months
Fourth offense: A whole entire year

Rules for Grounding Children:
No TV
No Radio
No Computer/Internet
No fun activities - Hanging out with friends, going to movies, going to ball games, going over sleepovers
No After School activities - Playing Base, Basket, and/or Football or Soccer. Ballet, Band Pratice, Gym or Gymnastics, Music Lesson, etc
Only Eat, Sleep, Do Homework, Clean the House and/or do community service with underprivlege children, senior citizens, underprivilege families

Spanking only makes the child resent the parent. After being spanked, I remember not reflecting on why I was in trouble, but focusing on how pissed off I was at my parent(s) for hurting me. You can't teach anything with violence.

Instead, I think that the "time-out" approach works. But not by itself. You need to also talk with the child before, in the midst of, or after the time-out to make it effective. The child needs to know not only why they're in trouble, but also why what they did was bad.

Originally posted by AKA
Spanking only makes the child resent the parent. After being spanked, I remember not reflecting on why I was in trouble, but focusing on how pissed off I was at my parent(s) for hurting me. You can't teach anything with violence.

Instead, I think that the "time-out" approach works. But not by itself. You need to also talk with the child before, in the midst of, or after the time-out to make it effective. The child needs to know not only why they're in trouble, but also why what they did was bad.

:yeahthat Well put. :nod:

No. I just think it's wrong to hit a defenseless child, whether or not it's for discipline.

Should parents be allowed to spank? Yes, as long as they don't leave a mark on the child, and use only their hands.

Should spanking be used routinely as a method of punishment? No, I don't think so. If a child is doing something very dangerous, like running out into the street, spanking would be okay because you want to impress upon the child how dangerous it is. But routine spanking for all types of misbehavior is not wise parenting. The child will probably come to resent you. And what will you do if it doesn't improve the behavior? Hit harder next time? There are many other methods of discipline parents can use, such as taking away privileges, natural consequences, and on and on. If a parent does spank, though, the parent should have established a very loving relationship with the child first, and should talk to the child about it afterwards. It can do great psychological damage to a child if they receive little attention from a parent other than when he or she is being punished (as unfortunately happens in some families).

When I was little I was spanked with the fireplace tools by my father and all it did was make me afraid of him. I can't even look at fireplace tools without it bringing up bad memories.

My mother never spanked us because she said she would never hit her children and they didn't believe in grounding either.

I don't think parents should spank there children unless it is the last resort but only with their hands and not in public. Using objects just makes the child afraid of the object whether it be the wooden spoon or the fireplace tools.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't hitting your dog with the newspaper considered animal abuse, and your child with an object child abuse?

I have five kids. Never spanked them. A good talking-to is the best punishment, coupled with "time-out" and taking away of their favorite extra-curricular activities. Hitting gets a parent no where, and it would hurt me far more than them. :(

Nope. Like What was already said, It Only Makes the Kid Mad or scared without teaching them anything.

Im Not a parent but I Watch my 3 year old Sister, And Threatening To Get The Boogie Man works just fine For Discipline. :D

I don't think spanking a child makes him resent the parents but maybe I'm just speaking from personal experience. My parents spanked me and while I was pissed at what they did, the point got across to me. I didn't start to get feelings of resentment until later on when I was too old for spankings and they started just yelling at me.

I do think though that parents shouldn't spank kids in public but they can threaten to do so. If I was misbehaving in a public place all my dad had to do was grab my arm and say quietly so only I could hear it, but in a mean voice, "If you do that again, I'll hit you right here" and just the thought of being embarrased like that in public was enough to make me shape up.

Originally posted by Mijada
It depends on how hard. I think a little tap on the hand or behind is OK. But I don't agree with the use of paddles, belts, razor straps etc.

Yeah. Especially when they're little and still in a diaper...a swat to the butt won't even hurt them.

Spanking does not equal hitting.

Even parents who are very careful about how/when they spank can slip. My dad spanked me and my sister for years, up until one day when he accidentally hit me so hard that I had his handprint on my back. It really scared him, and he never hit us again. My brother was never spanked in his entire life. I think spanking is a too-easy solution. When I did something wrong, I was afraid of the spanking, I wasn't learning what was wrong about it. It also teaches kids that it's okay to hit to solve problems. That's wrong no matter how you look at it. Parents should figure out ways to punish their kids, make them see and understand what they did wrong, rather than just hit them. I remember as a kid my sister and I would sit there and debate about whether what we were about to do would be worth the spanking we'd get.

i think that it is a necessary evil, sometimes "time-outs" and the revoking of privileges isn't enough for discipline, but it should never be done in anger, or with objects or undue force

Originally posted by Colonel Juke "N" Jive
Yep.

With the HAND though and only the hand!

Originally posted by AKA
Spanking only makes the child resent the parent. After being spanked, I remember not reflecting on why I was in trouble, but focusing on how pissed off I was at my parent(s) for hurting me. You can't teach anything with violence.

Instead, I think that the "time-out" approach works. But not by itself. You need to also talk with the child before, in the midst of, or after the time-out to make it effective. The child needs to know not only why they're in trouble, but also why what they did was bad.

When I was little, I got spanked. I remember that if I was being bad in a store or something, my mom would say to me, "Get me the wooden spoon when we get home." So I would be really good for the rest of the time and sometimes, my mom would forget about, but not all the time. But, the point of that was the first time a kid gets a spanking, he knows that once the parent threatens, he means business. Kids who get spanked are too scared to do something wrong. I have worked in my family's hardware store all my life and I have seen the brattiest kids on the planet. I also see parents who give their kids that "time out" crap and it doesn't work. Usually the kid yells back at the parent. I was never a really bad kid and I know that that was because my parents love me enough that they spanked me when I was young. Yes, after I got a spanking, I was mad at my parents, but I would never do what I did again. Well, I think spankings are the best kind of discipline and I will use it on my kids.

no

Originally posted by ~LadyJess~
I don't think spanking a child makes him resent the parents but maybe I'm just speaking from personal experience. My parents spanked me and while I was pissed at what they did, the point got across to me. I didn't start to get feelings of resentment until later on when I was too old for spankings and they started just yelling at me.

I do think though that parents shouldn't spank kids in public but they can threaten to do so. If I was misbehaving in a public place all my dad had to do was grab my arm and say quietly so only I could hear it, but in a mean voice, "If you do that again, I'll hit you right here" and just the thought of being embarrased like that in public was enough to make me shape up.
I agree with that. I was done (and am sitll being done) that same way.

I used to get the belt from my dad and I hated him most of my life until my parents separated and we are closer now.

I remember getting spanked and it hurted and if I every have kids, I would just puinsh them for a couple of weeks and not hurt them because spanking hurts!!

my dad has hit me alot and it doesnt teach me anything, it just makes me scared of him and makes me hate him more.

I'm 15 and still get wooped(rarley....REALY rarley).:D I think it is an OK thing to do.When I was little,I always hated my parents for it.But,It payed off.When I got "the look" I new that whatever I was doing was not good.Where ever the look was,the spankin' was.:lol:

I've never been spanked and I get along with my parents really well and I'm really well-behaved. When I was little and got in trouble they'd make me go to my room for 5 minutes or I wouldn't get a snack or maybe I couldn't go out a play for a day or something. And as for nowadays the only punishment I get is "no computer for tonight". And I'm an internet junkie so I'm good ;)

I think that if you don't hvve kids you can't really comment on the subject. You dont know what kind of position it is to have to discipline a child.

That said I don't spank my daughter. She's a bit mouthy but aside from that I have never had problems with her. With the horrible way I was raised I want to do as much different as possible.

Originally posted by Ewan's My Man
I've never been spanked and I get along with my parents really well and I'm really well-behaved. When I was little and got in trouble they'd make me go to my room for 5 minutes or I wouldn't get a snack or maybe I couldn't go out a play for a day or something. And as for nowadays the only punishment I get is "no computer for tonight". And I'm an internet junkie so I'm good ;)

My parents never spanked me either. Basically they did what your parents did. If I was doing something bad, my dad, who is a big guy, would get out of his chair and say "Get in there!" That was enough to scare me, I didn't need a spanking on top of that.

Not abuse though, and there is a difference.

It shouldnt be allowed at all. my dad has hit me and it only makes matters worse. a while ago he threw a book at me because i forgot something at school. really, that doesnt give me any messages to remember next time.

My father got beaten with wooden spoons, gotten a dent in the head from a belt, and beaten with pieces of wood.

Once, on his side of the family, his sister got beaten with a belt, and since it hurt so badly, her father never hit girls again! My father has an abusive family!

I think yes, parents should spank, but only with their hands. I mean, who can hit without feeling the pain in their hand?

Originally posted by ~LadyJess~
I don't think spanking a child makes him resent the parents but maybe I'm just speaking from personal experience.

No, you're exactly right. People against spanking exchange the word "Spank" for "Hit" and "Violence", and then like to throw in "Defenselss Child" just for a little extra distortion. :rolleyes: Please...

Originally posted by BoscoGal4u
When I was little, I got spanked. I remember that if I was being bad in a store or something, my mom would say to me, "Get me the wooden spoon when we get home." So I would be really good for the rest of the time and sometimes, my mom would forget about, but not all the time. But, the point of that was the first time a kid gets a spanking, he knows that once the parent threatens, he means business. Kids who get spanked are too scared to do something wrong. I have worked in my family's hardware store all my life and I have seen the brattiest kids on the planet. I also see parents who give their kids that "time out" crap and it doesn't work. Usually the kid yells back at the parent. I was never a really bad kid and I know that that was because my parents love me enough that they spanked me when I was young. Yes, after I got a spanking, I was mad at my parents, but I would never do what I did again. Well, I think spankings are the best kind of discipline and I will use it on my kids.

:clap Mega-dittos! :clap

Originally posted by Jen1989
Violence isn't the answer.

Violence? I don't think that shooting, raping, murdering, etc. someone is on the same level as spanking your child.

I think spanking is good as long as it's not used in an abusive manner. I'm 19, and when I was younger, I was the most misbehaved kid ever. For that, I got spanked (I even got the belt a few times :eek: ) and I know that they NEVER personally meant to inflict harm on me. It's was just used as a tool. Parenting is a tough thing (I would imagine so), and I can't beleive I behaved the way I did. :lol: But I can't really change anything. I'm now 19 and turned out perfectly fine.

I think spanking is ok, but not beating. With older kids like teenagers, parents don't really have to spank because there are so many things that the parents can take away from a teenager (phone, car, dates, etc.). But smaller children do not have such perks, so they need some form of punishment other than 5 minutes in timeout or my favorite when parents count to three for their kids to behave. So I think spanking is a good idea. I don't believe that spanking encourages violent behavior in children or any other disfunctional behavior. As the Bible says, spare the rod, spoil the child. As long as the parents continue to show love for their kids and remind them that they are being spanked for being bad, then it is ok.

I'm a child and I say no. Even if I was a parent, I would just ground them.

Originally posted by Jen1989
quote: Originally posted by ~LadyJess~
I don't think spanking a child makes him resent the parents but maybe I'm just speaking from personal experience.

Not necessarily. I resent it very much. My mother was wrong for choosing to spank. I hated it. All it teaches a child is to be scared of the parent. Spanking isn't the answer. If you have to spank your child, which IS inflicting pain on a child, anyone who says it isn't is only lying to themself. If you have to spank your child, something is wrong to begin with. It shouldn't have to come down to having to spank your children. It makes memories for children, the kind of memories they don't want to have to live with. I for one, would like to not remember being spanked. It was awful. Spanking is hitting. What do you think you are doing whith your hand? Hello! It's not like your softly laying your hand on your child's bottom. You are putting force into your hand, because you know it will hurt the child. So, you can't say you're not hurting your children. You're causing them pain, and making them cry. They're better ways of handling situations. Why must people PHYSICALLY handle situatjions, and yes, it's violence, just because it's on the butt and not on the face, arm, or other body part, doesn't mean it's not hitting. I agree with you
I was never spanked (cause I was the good kid) but my siblings were and they resent it also I'm a Preschool Teacher so I know of other methods of discipline that DO work the ONLY way I'd think spanking is okay is if they child does something dangerous like running out in the middle of the street or something like that
but NOT used all the time

Originally posted by MonarC
i believe that you should only spank your kids with your hand. Don't use an object. Cause your hand will also feel the burn and you will know when to stop. You can't feel how hard you hit with an object. :confused: If you don't spank your kids turn into brats.

(just my opinion)

I agree for spanking the kids, but I think the belt would be the better option than the hand. The hands are normally used when showing love and hugs to children. I wouldn't want to confuse the child by hugging one moment and then spanking the next. That is how it is with my dog. Sometimes I will spank her when she is out of line. I try to be careful with that because I spank her, we love each other to life. I know I have confused her with the hand as far as hugging and spanking goes because she would cringe or feel uptight when she saw the hand not knowing what she was getting.

Object IMO are ok to use like a belt or paddle. But the thing is parents should NOT strike their children out of anger. That is the worst thing that can be done. It is almost like you're releasing your anger out on them and it can make them fear you and I don't mean the kind out of respect. They can get scared.

Originally posted by Jen1989
That's even worse, to spank a child with an object. That will hurt even more. And a lot of parents spank out of anger and it is wrong. If they weren't angry to begin with they probably wouldn't resort to spanking. All it teaches children is that if someone is bad they can hurt them. If you think spanking is ok, then does that mean when you (the adult) do something wrong someone, older, bigger, and stronger than you can spank you? Think about it. You wouldn't want to be spanked so why would you think you're children would want to be? There are other opitions.

An adult can spank without letting their anger take over. It has been done. If it is done right, (like the bible says) it won't kill 'em.

For their own sake YES!!!

I have seen countless times undisciplined kids being doped up on ritalin because he was teasing his sister, kids who kick and beat their mothers on the head (always the ones who say "I don't hit my kids"), and kids with no respect for themselves or authority. When you do not respect your parents, who can you respect? I'm sure that some of the kids who get arrested don't know they're really being punished, rather than being "hassled".