TakeMeAway
01-08-2004, 02:06 AM
This was tragic ..... I dont think they have had any new leads right? ..... Did they ever find a body?
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View Full Version : What happened to Cindy Song? TakeMeAway 01-08-2004, 02:06 AM This was tragic ..... I dont think they have had any new leads right? ..... Did they ever find a body? Kane 01-08-2004, 09:15 AM Originally posted by TakeMeAway This was tragic ..... I dont think they have had any new leads right? ..... Did they ever find a body? Not even a trace. Here is a link to her profile. http://www.rinokids.com/Adults/Song canadianmysterygrl 01-09-2004, 01:04 AM It's a shame people must play the race card. I don't think that is true. I think it is what the family and friends do to keep the victims name out there and to keep the media going after the story. StackTime 09-23-2008, 03:05 AM Not sure if others have mentioned it, but there are two other unsolved crimes involving Penn State students: murders of Betsy Aardsma (http://www.statecollegemagazine.com/home_pages/Betsy/who_killed_aardsma.html) in 1969; and, Dana Baliey (http://www.statecollegepa.us/index.asp?NID=91) in 1987. Work of a serial? Doubtful, but still difficult to dismiss. xX_Evil_Xx 09-23-2008, 07:46 AM Actually, I stumbled across this thread while trying to find some info on another case for a friend. I'm from the Penn State area, and am a relative of Dana Bailey's (on my father's side). She was a second cousin of mine. I was about three years old when it happened, and after all these years they're still no closer to finding out who it was. Also of note, my ex-girlfriends grandmother worked in the Pattee library whenever that happened back in 69. The Third Man 09-23-2008, 04:50 PM The Betty Aardsma case is of some personal interest to me. I studied History at Penn State, and often worked on Pattee 2 near where she was killed. It is an incredibly creepy place: the area where she died still looks a lot like it did in 1969, very dark and quiet, with low ceilings so anyone taller than six feet has to duck under the light fixtures. It's exactly the sort of place you could expect someone to be killed without anybody noticing. Sometimes the heating system makes ominous cracking and banging noises; it's not surprising that some claim the area is haunted. I don't believe in ghosts but if I did I could see why that claim is made. That said, I'm still surprised that the Aardsma case was never solved. My dad was at Penn State at the time; I'll see if I can get any recollections of the case from him. mark10 04-30-2009, 02:50 AM Hugo Selenski is the main suspect in the case, and why the authorities are not pressing him hard on this case is disturbing. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/song_hyun.html Mastermind 04-30-2009, 05:27 PM Hugo Selenski is the main suspect in the case, and why the authorities are not pressing him hard on this case is disturbing. They don;t have enough evidence. Also if you press a suspect too many times and for too long, they start becoming resistant to interrogation. They learn the interrogation technique and start learning how to keep their lies and their story together better. mark10 05-01-2009, 12:52 AM "Another possible lead was investigated when bank robber Hugo Marcus Selenski was arrested and several sets of human remains, believed to be from between five and twelve people, were found in his backyard. None of the remains were from Song. Selenski told police that he and another man, Michael Jason Kerkowski Jr., saw Song on the night of her disappearance, mistook her for a prostitute, and kidnapped her and kept her imprisoned in a walk-in safe in his home until she died. He says they then buried Song's body in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania. Kerkowski could not confirm or deny Selenski's account because he was one of the people buried in Selenski's backyard. (He said he killed Kerkowski after learning that he had kept Song's bunny ears as a souvenir of the crime.) One of Selenski's friends, however, told police that Selenski had boasted of the murder to him. Investigators have been unable to proof of Selenski's involvement in Song's disappearance, but they have not ruled him out as a suspect either. He was acquitted of the murder charges against him but was convicted of two counts of abuse of a corpse in March 2006." Who said anything about too long, or too many times? I don't think they've done enough, and Selenski is making a mockery out of the whole system. How can someone be acquitted of a crime when multiple bodies are found buried on their property??? I have a theory...they ended up there out of thin air! Also of note, how did he know about the bunny ears? Makes you wonder...well, makes me wonder. Orange_Sody_84 06-05-2011, 03:11 PM Hmmm... the Bunny ears thing tends to make me think he did have something to do with her death. I agree it's outrageous he was acquitted after finding all those human remains. :( were they all identified? what's the deal there? This case kinda reminds me of the Monica Rizzo case. another baffling one. as you said the bones didn't just magically appear there. I wonder what happened to the other Students? if they have any connection at all. it's suspicious that two of them were found dead in bodies of water. augh... what a frustrating case. :confused: TracyLynnS 01-30-2014, 11:30 AM New article on the suspect, Hugo Selenski: http://www.centredaily.com/2014/01/29/4009229/luzerne-county-case-may-yield.html 12 bodies found burned and buried on his property. (I found the info from a poster in Cindy's thread on websleuths) 1990 UM fan 01-30-2014, 12:18 PM New article on the suspect, Hugo Selenski: http://www.centredaily.com/2014/01/29/4009229/luzerne-county-case-may-yield.html 12 bodies found burned and buried on his property. (I found the info from a poster in Cindy's thread on websleuths) Thank you for sharing this. I knew Selenski was a bad man but upon reading this article and several other articles about him, he really is sick and twisted. Even killed his own partner-in-crime. This guy should be given the death penalty in my opinion. I hope Cindy Song's family can find their answers after all this time and put her to rest finally. TracyLynnS 01-30-2014, 02:16 PM Here's the grand jury's report http://www.wbcitizensvoice.com/pdfs/centini.pdf also sourced from a poster at websleuths, that may explain questions voiced above such as why they didn't press this guy harder for info when dead bodies were found on his property and he was bragging about having Cindy's clothing (costume bunny ears) in his possession. Among other things, he was involved in serious witness intimidation and he, his attorney, and a private investigator (a former police officer) were all in cahoots! His lawyer committed criminal offenses including instructing witnesses to commit perjury, intimidated witnesses, bribed witnesses with cash, delivered threatening letters from Selenski to witnesses then claimed those letters were "lost", destroyed evidence of her own crimes related to the case, committed perjury before the grand jury, etc, etc, The grand jury called it "brazen criminal conduct of this group" and described them as "co-conspirators", "accomplices", "a syndicate", "a triad of treachery", and a "cabal of criminals". It's no wonder Cindy can't get justice, when the entire system is corrupt. That grand jury report is worth the read. It's 13 pages long, typed double spaced, and not too full of legalese. I bet there's a lot of this crap that goes on, impeding justice, and causing cases to stay cold and unsolved. LooksLikeCRicci 03-05-2014, 07:56 PM Holy crap, y'all. That attorney should lose her license a few times over. Then she should get situated with a cell right next to her former client. TheCars1986 02-26-2026, 01:53 PM The UM segment tries to tie Cindy's disappearance with an unidentified Asian woman being abducted 200 miles away from Penn State. According to this (https://onwardstate.com/2025/10/29/penn-state-history-lesson-the-disappearance-of-cindy-song/) article, that tip was "deemed incorrect". I think she came home to her apartment, took her fake eyelashes off and left her backpack, and ran back out to a 24 hour convenience store. Someone adbucted her either on the way to or from the store. According to this (https://www.statecollege.com/centre-county-gazette/the-night-cindy-song-vanished/) article: Years passed and the case grew colder. Then, in 2003, it took a dark and unexpected turn. Authorities received information from an informant named Paul Weakley. He claimed that Cindy Song had been abducted by Hugo Selenski, a man with a growing reputation as one of Pennsylvania’s most dangerous criminals. Weakley alleged that Selenski and an accomplice, Michael Kerkowski, had kidnapped a young Asian woman around the time of Cindy’s disappearance. According to the account, she was held against her will in a basement vault until she died. Michael Kerkowski was a pharmacist who was wanted for selling prescription drugs illegaly, but he and his girlfriend were missing and the police assumed they had fled. It wasn't until Weakley's information that they were able to determine that Selenski murdered Kerkowski and his girlfriend and their remains were found on his property. Cindy's remains were not found. But the police would later find evidence (https://unresolved.me/cindy-song) that Weakley had searched the internet for information on Cindy's disappearance. The police were unsure if he was using Cindy's disappearance to try and pin more crimes on his ex-accomplice, or if he himself was the one responsible and that's why he was searching to see if there were any new leads or evidence. The remains found on Selenski's property were rival drug dealers and associates, and Selenski confessed that the motive behind these murders were robberies. If he was involved in Cindy's disappearance, he had already buried multiple bodies on his property, so why wouldn't he have buried Cindy's remains there too if he were involved in her disappearance and probable death? rerungirl 03-05-2026, 12:23 PM This case resonated with me because I did the same thing, many times when I was in my early 20's. I'd get home late from a night out with friends and decide that I needed a Diet Coke. So I'd go down to a nearby convenience store and get one. Looking back, it wasn't a good idea and I'm sure Cindy didn't give it a second thought. Sadly, it put her in harm's way. I really hope this case is solved. |