Hey Everyone,
I love UM and I'm wondering which episode/cases get to you. Which ones would or could you never forget, it can be old or new cases.

For some odd reason .. this one might not seem so scary but I havent forgotten it and I saw it years ago. A man and his divorced wife were arguing or something when he went to go pick up his kids and he pushed her down the stairs and I guess she was obviously unconsicous and bleeding and the daughter ran next door to get help but the husband was like oh oh ill take her to the hospital and pretended to but he took her and killed her. He ended up taking her to some abonded school house and someone found her in a bloody sheet. When they put his story on there he was living with his girl friend and he was trying not to let her see it and making distractions .. he got a way but his gf called it in and the police were after him for hours in the car and then he commited suicide.

oh yeah I remember that case it was the Dennis Depue case. That case also got me too.

yeah. it didnt seem like something that would really get to you but it did.

yeah I loved that case, can you think of any others?

im trying to think .. did you ever see the one about the baby sitter who watched the little girl. she may have been foriegn or something and they said their was something mysterious about her .. and ever since she watched the little girl the little girl would have ceizures or so she said and fall down teh stairs and bleed .. do u no what im talking about ? can you think of any good ones ?

oh yeah I remember that case. um the Donovan murder case, the Wacker case also got me.

hmm. i dont really know them by name .. but i bet they were scary.

the Wacker case was in Ohio, Stack County in fact they were an erderly couple they were stalked and harrassed for years.

The Donovan case was about Charles Holden he picked up a hitchhiker and the guy murdered his own mother, without even knowing Charles or his mom. the guy also before tha threatened to kill Charles before killing his mom if he didn't given the hitchhiker his car.

jeez.
what about the guy with the big glasses i dunno if u remember but he knocked on little girls houses when their parents werent home and said he was a cop so theyd let him in and hed rape them.

yeah that was the Kenneth Robert Stanton case that one also got me. hey maybe we should chat with each other what do you think?

sounds good to me.

which types of IM accounts do you have? I have AOL, Yahoo, and MSN.

I have aim. so aol would work.

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I just remembered one case that I found to be very sad. I forgot the names of the people involved...

I believe there was a psychic involved who was a witch. She told the story of a lady who disappeared. It turns out she met up with a guy she thought was her friend, but then he drove her to a secluded area and threw her down a ravine. I don't know if they ever found her, but I know for sure they never found him. So sad. :(

oh yes I remember that case, it made me cry.

thats sad.

yeah it was.

One of the saddest cases on UM is the one where this guy picked up a stranger who needed a ride home. When the guy dropped him off, the stranger became agressive and threatened the guy with a knife. Luckily the guy was able to escape, but by a strange coincedence, the stranger found his way to the guy's house and killed his elderly mother. Such a sad case, and one that's still not solved.

oh yeah that case was creepy its the Donovan murder case and your right its still not solved. Another one that I remember that even made me cry was the Harold Belle case the guy who shot this other guy named Larry Dickens in front of his own mother. thank god he was caught and is now in prison.

Sorry, didn't see it was already posted. :)

oh ok. I love the old cases better than the newer ones. I guess it's because I can remember the old ones more.

Originally posted by Mr. Roboto
One of the saddest cases on UM is the one where this guy picked up a stranger who needed a ride home. When the guy dropped him off, the stranger became agressive and threatened the guy with a knife. Luckily the guy was able to escape, but by a strange coincedence, the stranger found his way to the guy's house and killed his elderly mother. Such a sad case, and one that's still not solved.


I just saw that case a few nights ago. Very sad and tragic. I read a news report awhile back which stated that a man who fit the description of the killer, had been spotted in a local Hardee's diner.

Someone posted it on here awhile back after I had inquired about it. If you do a search on the board, you'll find it. Just type in the name "Donovan" and there you have it.

There is one that I remember about two twin sisters. Someone was trying to kill them, and they think it was their half-brother (If I remember). What shocked me about the whole thing was it took place in a VERY small town that is less than an hour from where I live.

Are the twins that you're talking about named Jill and Julie Hanson? The Hanson family home (which was in northern California) was set on fire by some arsonists. The one twin died in the fire but the other twin was shot and managed to escape the home, but died a few days later in the hospital. The parents think that Donny knew who set the house on fire, but Donny to this day maintains his innocence. Is that the case you're talking about.

That's the exact case I was talking about. It creeped me out because I've been to or just passed through that town many times.

That case really creeps me out too, I feel so sorry for the parents. Since you've been at that town, what do the local people think about the case? I'm sure, even though so many years have passed by, people are still talking about it. How can anyone forget about a case like that.

I don't think it is talked about that much anymore, but that is a SMALL town, and for anything of that magnitude to happen there had to have shook them up for a while. I am not sure if the parents still live in that town though.

I din't really blame the parents to want to move away from that town. The town itself would remind them of too much of what happened, I hope that they got on with their lives to a certain extent.

I remember this case well. I loved it, but it was so disturbing and still is. I still think that it was intruders who did the murders of the two girls, but then I think back to everything that was done and I think that the step-brother did it. so I don't know.





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Originally posted by WeaverCarterFan
Hey Everyone,
I love UM and I'm wondering which episode/cases get to you. Which ones would or could you never forget, it can be old or new cases.

For me it would be Kerry Lynn Nixon (hope I got that right).

A teenage girl who walked to a convenience store one night, and never came back. There was initially some speculation that she was still alive in another part of the country. There was even a witness who said she was introduced to a young lady named "Kerry Nixon" after the real Kerry disappeared.

Then UM does an update years later saying some scumbag in prison confessed to the abduction, rape, and murder of Nixon on the night she disappeared.

That story always got to me. I felt even worse after seeing the update. She seemed like such a nice girl, with a bright future. It's a tragedy that her life had to end in such a cruel fashion.

Justin

The Carrie Lynn Nixon case is a case that never leaves my mind, it's so tragic. The town of Au Sable Forks, NY is supposed to be a really safe small town and Carrie went to a corner store one night and never came back home. I think that the girl that played Carrie on Unsolved Mysteries looked so much like the real Carrie. The woman that saw Carrie in Eutaville, South Carolina must of met some other girl named Carrie Lynn Nixon or made the whole story up, which is very sick. I have this segment on tape and everytime I watch it, I get chills down my spine because it's so creepy, but sad too.

I'd still have to say the Korzilius murder. I can't even think about it without wanting to both cry and vomit. That little girl laid out so neatly in the road... her hair combed, her clothes straight, she was practically giftwrapped special delivery. Murdered in broad daylight in a wealthy estate. People live in those places because they usually have some kind of security ... they're often gated, although I don't know if that particular estate was. I'm still convinced the killer was someone trying to get at Bon Jovi through his publicist and friend.

I am autistic (not "Asperger") and I've always felt great sympathy for Gordon Page. I have this awful feeling that he was busted for vagrancy and locked up in some psycho ward and they'll never find him. The last thing in the world he needed was all those psychomeds.. that's what drove him crazy! There are different kinds of autism caused by different things and we are not all basket cases. http://www.autistics.org if you want to find out more.

One case that can bring me to watery eyes is the runyan case , of the little girl who was abducted then mudered , it was thought that she was kidnaped , to be used in a torture ...sex type movie , and as far as i know her killers or killer was never caught .

Matt~ I remember that case too. That little girl never had a chance that's what's so terrible about murdered children some don't have a chance to get away before something happens to them.


another case that got to me was those teens who went on a killing spree in 3 different states I believe it was, they murdered two eldery people and man. I can't really remember anything else, anyone remember this case? I think that this case was solved and the people who did it are in prison.

I fully agree....the Case of Carrie Lynn Nixon stuck with me since I first saw it in 1993. I suppose I must have watched it just prior to it being solved, and then I never saw the story aired again until the middle of 2002.


I may be crazy, but it seemed to me as though the story was aired that day in 2002.....With NO UPDATE, and then 2 weeks later was aired again....WITH the Update.

To go on for so long, and to have such a tragic ending, this one must hit home much more than others.

P.S. The leed story in that episode was the story of the gold burried at Victorio Peak N.M. Has that story been updated further since 1991 (2) ???????

The Crystal Spencer unsolved murder case gets to me. I keep hoping to see the segment on unsolved mysteries, but I haven't seen it yet.

Also, the case of Jaclyn Dowaliby. Her parents, David and Cynthia Dowaliby were suspects in the case, but were later acquitted I think. There was a film made of that case, too. It's called Gone In The Night. It's so sad.:( I think Jaclyn was only seven years old when she was kidnapped and murderered.

Originally posted by crystals

Also, the case of Jaclyn Dowaliby. Her parents, David and Cynthia Dowaliby were suspects in the case, but were later acquitted I think. There was a film made of that case, too. It's called Gone In The Night. It's so sad.:( I think Jaclyn was only seven years old when she was kidnapped and murderered.

That story always got to me. So sad. :(

The Unsloved Mysteries episode I remember, totally freaked me out, was the one about the man who came over from the Middle East, and at one point had been kidnapped by terrorists, but then let go. He came to the states and opened a restarant, but was harrassed and terrorized by phone calls that sounded like a child laughing and cursing him. They played the recording of the calls and it freaked me out, hearing a child say that they were going to kill him and then cackling about it. The man recieved these calls for years, along with attempts made on his life, but they never figured out who made the calls. The pressure got to the man so much that he had to be institutionalized, but even then he still got the phone calls. The nurses station would filter the calls and let the doctors know about them. I believe they called the caller "la fant". If anyone knows more about this story please contact me, I've searched relentlessly for 5 years to find information on it, and other than what I saw on Unsolved Nysteries, I've not seen any information on it.

Originally posted by cashun
The Unsloved Mysteries episode I remember, totally freaked me out, was the one about the man who came over from the Middle East, and at one point had been kidnapped by terrorists, but then let go. He came to the states and opened a restarant, but was harrassed and terrorized by phone calls that sounded like a child laughing and cursing him. They played the recording of the calls and it freaked me out, hearing a child say that they were going to kill him and then cackling about it. The man recieved these calls for years, along with attempts made on his life, but they never figured out who made the calls. The pressure got to the man so much that he had to be institutionalized, but even then he still got the phone calls. The nurses station would filter the calls and let the doctors know about them. I believe they called the caller "la fant". If anyone knows more about this story please contact me, I've searched relentlessly for 5 years to find information on it, and other than what I saw on Unsolved Nysteries, I've not seen any information on it.

This is my first post, glad to find a good board dedicated to UM.

I've not seen the episode quoted above, but it sounds amazing.

The one that freaks me out the most is the "Circleville (Ohio) Writer" episode. I am fortunate to have this one on tape - well now DVD with my DVD recorder. Some weirdo in Ohio started writing these threatening letters to a woman, then her husband died under mysterious circumstances, then their brother-in-law was charged with attempted murder of the woman, but the letters kept coming. UM themselves received a letter from the "writer". It freaked me out good since I grew up less than 2 hours from Circleville.

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The one that gets to me is Suzanne Marshall/Tonya Dawn Tadlock/Tonya Dawn Hughes and her son Michael Hughes.

That poor girl suffered such a tragic life at the hands of that pervert Franklin Delano Floyd, and from prison he claims that he deserved a medal for the life he gave her.

I've read some pages that quote witnesses saying that he confessed to killing Michael, but he gives different locations of the body,and so far no one has found him. Even more tragic is that no one has come forward claiming Suzanne, and Michael's real father is still unknown.

Another case was one where a young boy/young girl, too young, got pregnant. Her family forbade the kids to have any contact, but the night of the birth, one of the sisters came to the house to say that the girl had had twin girls, but one of them died. I think the surviving baby girl was adopted out, and later came back looking for her bio families. Later, another girl came to the house asking questions, but the information wasn't quite right, she had their address, but related information on her bio mothers family, nothing seemed to quite fit right, so she said thanks for their time and left. Then the little grandsom comments, She sure looked a lot like Uncle John, which brought all the memories of the supposedly dead twin back. They weren't able to find any death cert on the baby, and do not know what happened.
The twin who did find them wants to find out if this is indeed her sister, but I've never seen this updated either.

There are two episodes that still stick out in my mind.

The first was of a girl who was kidnapped and escaped. Witnesses saw her walking down the road with clothes that were way too big for her (possibly snatched from a clothesline). Then she was never seen or heard from again (to my knowledge). Was there ever an update? Does anybody else recall this one?

The second was of an elderly black man who went missing. They found his car and it looked like he had tried to remember a relatives phone number by writing it down. An update showed he was almost located. People called in to report a man named "Elmer Jackson" who was missing his upper teeth was living nearby. When police went to the house he was gone again. A truck driver who picked him up gave him the name Elmer Jackson. Was there ever any update for this one?

The UM case that got to me the most was by a country mile, the Tammi Leppart case. And this picture of her gives me the chills EVERY TIME.

http://www.find-missing-children.org/images/000362c1.jpg

Well, this comes as a shock to nobody since I've mentioned it several times before. But the UM case that got to me the most, and still gets to me to this day is the case of the Maples kiddnapping two of their grandchildren; Kristi and Bobby Baskin in 1989.

It just floors me that two grandparents would actually do everything in their power to convince a judge that THEIR OWN DAUGHTER and son-in-law were child molesters and members of a satanic cult and then actually run into hiding with the youngsters never to be seen again.

There's not a day that goes by where I don't pray for Mark and Debbie Baskin. I've had dreams about them before and I even wrote them a letter 2 years ago to tell them that I'll be praying for them and that I really hope they can be renunited with their children some day.

They are all out there somewhere. I can just hope that some day Kristi and Bobby can find out the truth about their rotten grandparents. The Maples must be caught and punished for what they have done.

That Baskin case happened right at the height of the Satanic panic of the late 80s-early 90s. What gave it so much credibility in the eyes of the public and the law were the many mental health professionals who had fallen for this nonsense and incorporated it into their practice. Colin Ross and Randy Noblitt are possibly the best known offenders. Joan Acocella's book Creating Hysteria tells the story in a comprehensive summary. Fans of Unsolved might be interested because the Satanic ritual abuse scare partly included the quite true story of the military's Project Monarch ("Manchurian Candidate") and the whole MKULTRA business, which you'll remember became a UM segment concerning the murder of Frank Olson.

Thousands of well-meaning psychotherapists and social workers convinced people who came in for ordinary life problems that they had actually as children been victims of MKULTRA in cooperation with the international Satanic conference. The clients' lack of memory for any such event meant that they had simply repressed these memories.

I am convinced that the grandparents in the Baskin case had become terrorized by just such a therapist. Alienation of family members was very important in Ross' and Noblitt's theories. The fact that the grandparents took the kids and went into hiding is right down the track; the satanic/military conspiracy is supposedly everywhere, messages being beamed at us through television, billboards, etc. The real unsolved mystery is how in the hell these morons with degrees managed to convince otherwise intelligent, thoughtful adults that this bilge was reality.

Hmm, I might be reading you wrong, Bluejay, but I don't think the Maples became terrorized by any such "satanic panic." The Maples just used the line about the Baskins being members of a satanic cult in order to convince him that they were unfit parents. They also told the judge that the Baskins had molested Bobby in their hotel room when in reality the entire family was having a wonderful memorable day together in the park. The Maples had this scheme all planned up before the children even had visited with their parents. The judge then awarded temporary custody of the children to the Maples until an investigation into the molestation charges could be conducted.

The segment made no mention whether or not the Maples were into or terrified of any satanic cults or rituals. It was just a lie used to frame their daughter and son-in-law.

What is really insane is that the Maples were able to go into a judges chamber and convince him of all these allegations without any proof and without talking to either the Baskins or the children. How can you take a couples rights as parents away with no proof?

Welcome to the wonderful world of family law, where "the best interests of the child" means whatever the attorneys and judges want it to mean. Family law is basically made up as they go along; it has few if any rules or guidelines. Most legal cases use either case law precedent (records of old decisions, look up similar ones and base decision off that), or statutory law (like city and state codes that define what are criminal acts, what are felonies, misdemeanors etc.). Family court uses almost none of those any more than they have to, and basically is anything that the various parties can get away with.

So I'm not surprised that the case in question happened just like you said. Also, at that time period, attorneys often encouraged their clients in custody cases to make such statements about satanism, sexual abuse, etc., to the point that it became routine!

Sad, but true, Bluejay.

In the end, "Family Law" was a big reason why the Maples were able to escape into hiding with the children.

Asides from the ghost stories, one of the cases that got to me was the couple that was killed while they were making love in the back seat of a car. It was in the 1950's along the Louisiana bayou (I forget the name of the actual lake, but its close to Baton Rouge). The guy's name was pronounced Ho-tod. That older couple that was suspected to be ones who murdered the couple was what really creeped me out. That lady looked like Roseanne!
Anybody remember this case?

I remember that one. I think the area that the murder happened in washed away....and weren't the victims having an affair?

Hey everyone!! Another Unsolved Mysteries Fanatic here. I had to post here first because there are lots of episodes that fascinated me. (P.S. some of these are from memories from a long time ago, so if I've gotten details wrong, please correct me).

1. The story of an older woman who was brutually killed and then her body was found tied to a tree months after the area had been searched repeatedly. I believe this one was solved eventually.

2. The story of Ruby Brugiere (sp?) and her boyfriend (can't remember his name offhand) who were involved in a car accident one cold winter night along with another friend. The car flipped upside down and Ruby and her boyfriend got out, but the other friend didn't. Eventually she got rescued, but Ruby and the boyfriend disappeared. Police figured they wandered away and died of exposure, however no trace was ever found. Until one spring day their bodies were found less than 75 feet from the accident. Police swear that area was searched and there is no way the bodies were missed. They speculate for whatever reason they were murdered and the bodies brought back to make it look like they parished in the accident. A lock of hair that was Ruby's was found near where the bodies were found and police state that it must have have been left there when the bodies were put in the river as they never found any trace during the earlier search.

3. This is one I remember from way back but it was the story of two young boys found dead on a railway track. Can't remember specifics but was haunting.

4. The Mary Morris Murders, very weird, very creepy cases.

5. One I saw recently about a young man named Robert Borten who apparently died in Vietnam but very weird things have happened while his family searches for answers. His family feels that he was involved in covert activities in Vietnam and is still living, but under a new identity.
Lots more but those are off the top of my head.

Good to be here with other fans!!!

3. This is one I remember from way back but it was the story of two young boys found dead on a railway track. Can't remember specifics but was haunting.

Yeah I asked about this a few weeks ago and have been intrigued ever since - It is from the first UM episode ever I believe (Stack hosted anyway) - This case has some juice to it - here is the long and the short of it most of it courtesy of a book "The Boys On The Tracks" by Mara Leveritt.

The two victims were Kevin Ives and Don Henry both teenagers from Arkansas. Their murder occured on 8-27-87 in a rural community just south of Little Rock and has been since known as "The Train Deaths". However the full story dates back to the late 60s-early 70s when a notorious drug runner named Barry Seal was running large amounts of cocaine from South America to the United States. When he was eventually apprehended in the late seventies, he struck a deal with the goverment that allowed him immunity in exchange for his help in scouring illicit drug traffic.

However, Seal used this immunity to continue his drug trade with the Contras and may have also been a gun-runner. One of Seal's main drop off points apparently was in Mena, Arkansas and he operated out of there well into the late eighties. It is believed that this was done right under the nose and at times with the cooporation of the state and federal government. On 8-27-87 Kevin Ives and Don Henry witnessed a drug transaction in Mena and were "disposed of" by either Seal & his associates or the Arkansas government. Proof of this were a dozen stab wounds on Ives' body and henry's skull was caved in likely by the butt of a rifle. Their bodies were then laid side by side on the railroad tracks with a tarp placed over them. After they were run over and the incident reported, the tarp mysteriously vanished. The boys' death was instantly ruled a suicide due to the intake of pot (a trace amount was found in both boys' systems) and the rationale was that both Ives and Henry fell asleep next to each other in exactly the same postion on the track :rolleyes2

Barry Seal himself was killed in the early nineties by Mexican gun runners taking his knowledge about Mena to the grave. The mother of Kevin Ives was later told by an informent in 1998? that Kevin and Don were not the only boys to witness the "drop" on 8-27-87, and that more than ten people witnessed the drop although Kevin and Don were the only ones that were "caught" - This rings true if you believe that the nine people who came forward with information following the murder met with untimely deaths themselves (including one man being shot in the face and numerous car accidents)


The "train deaths" and the entire Mena tale is a scandal of the highest order and according to the Kevin's mother it is likely that if it is ever solved it would implicate many top dogs in politics including George Bush Sr. and then Arkansas governor Bill Clinton.

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These are the cases that got me:

1.) The murders of Rachael Raver, Warren Fulton, and Tina Jefferson. I feel so sorry for the victims and their parents that lost a child. Rachael Raver's mother seemed so obsessed to find who killed her daughter and her boyfriend Warren. It's amazing how she just knew that the Rachael and Warren were murdered by the same killer that killed Tina Jefferson. DNA tests proved that she was right! I really want this case solved. The killer's composite sketch was so scary! :eek: omg: I swear that I saw him at Home Depot two or three years ago! But my mom was like,"do you really want to get involved with police and stuff and prove to be wrong." So I said,"no." She could been right, it could have been another man who just looked sort of similar to him.

2.) The murder of Matt Flores. I felt so sorry for his grieving wife. And he left behind a baby daughter. Truly tragic! :( He was killed in a parking lot by getting shot with a gun. The video surveilence camera taped a mysterious van that kept going back and forth in the parking lot. The car then followed Matt Flores' car and then when the shooting occurred the killer's car drove speeding out of the parking lot. I hope this case gets solved. But it doesn't look like it ever will! :(

3.) The case where the dead old woman got tied to a tree. That case was solved though! Thank God! :D

4.) The abduction of Angela Hammond. I felt so sorry for her and her boyfriend. She was abducted while talking in a telephone booth and her boyfriend chased the abductor's car, but his car gave in, and Angela was taken away.

5.) The elderly couple that were killed on a highway by a drunk driver in Florida. I hate that guy who killed them, even though he's now in prison. :mad:

6.) The Harold Bell case where this sick guy was exposing himself to children. Then this nice young man, named Larry (I think) told him to stop. Harold Bell became enraged and backed Larry into his garage. His mother was in the kitchen and called the police. Then she went into the garage. Harold Bell had a gun and was ready to shoot Larry. His mother begged him not to shoot, but he did it anyway, killing Larry right in front of his mother. Then Larry tried to chase Harold, even with all the the bullets in him, to protect the children. But he fell and died. Harold Bell was caught though and is now in prison.

There are plenty of others but it's way too much to write. I will try to write more cases that got me l8er!

Originally posted by Fletch
The UM case that got to me the most was by a country mile, the Tammi Leppart case. And this picture of her gives me the chills EVERY TIME.

http://www.find-missing-children.org/images/000362c1.jpg


Wow. I wish i didnt click on that. Just cuz now that picture will be burned into my memory and the chills that i got were overflowing out of my ears. Literally thats what it felt like...

There was a case in the early 1980s where a man murdered his girlfriend who was living with her mother. The girlfriend and her mother lived in a rural locale and the boyfriend was a traveller. Her mother found her daughter's corpse several days later or a week later under her bed. The motive was financial gain.

I remember that case, but I forget everybody's name in the mystery. I haven't seen this case in a long time.

The case that I saw the other day wasnt a big segment on unsolved mysteries, but what was so strange was hearing about the case before I saw it on the show. It was about that guy that was possibly called Jason. He was a hitchhiker that was killed in a car accident after attending a greatful dead concert on june 25,1995. His body was found with a ticket stub from the concert and a note from two people called Caroline. Does anyone know if they ever identified this guy. It is such a creepy story. It aired on 7/27.

As far as I know, there hasn't been an update on UM as to who this young man was. Maybe I should try researching about it on the internet and see what I find.

Thanks. I saw a colored picture of the guy on the find missing children website. The unidentified victims are what really get to me.

I think the episode about the Comedy Store in California being haunted was awesome. This guy who is in a lot of Adam Sandler movies, Blake Clark, was interviewed for it.

I saw a case one time in broad daylight and it scared the heck out of me. It was about 2-3 years ago since I saw it last, but I remember it vividly. A woman pulled into an abondoned store parking lot (since it was around midnight or so) to buy a soft drink...this car pulls up next to her. We see her sitting in her car for a few secs, and then BAM! the guy in the next car has snuck around to her window and attacked. He stabs her and she plays dead in the parking lot so he'll leave her alone. It works! He drives away. She waits a few mins, then heads off to find some help. Horror of horrors. She's driving so fast to find help that she runs up on her attacker on the dark road! He's just driving along at a leisurely pace. She pulls off the road at a house and gets help, just as the man realizes she's come up on him, and he turns around, but someone in the house had come out to help the victim, so all he can do is stare for a second, then drive away. I have never been as scared during a case as when I saw this! How unimaginably frightening that mustve been when she realized she caught up with the man who just attacked her!

Originally posted by temptation1979ga
I saw a case one time in broad daylight and it scared the heck out of me. It was about 2-3 years ago since I saw it last, but I remember it vividly. A woman pulled into an abondoned store parking lot (since it was around midnight or so) to buy a soft drink...this car pulls up next to her. We see her sitting in her car for a few secs, and then BAM! the guy in the next car has snuck around to her window and attacked. He stabs her and she plays dead in the parking lot so he'll leave her alone. It works! He drives away. She waits a few mins, then heads off to find some help. Horror of horrors. She's driving so fast to find help that she runs up on her attacker on the dark road! He's just driving along at a leisurely pace. She pulls off the road at a house and gets help, just as the man realizes she's come up on him, and he turns around, but someone in the house had come out to help the victim, so all he can do is stare for a second, then drive away. I have never been as scared during a case as when I saw this! How unimaginably frightening that mustve been when she realized she caught up with the man who just attacked her!


I remember that one very well. Haven't seen it in a while, but as I recall - the woman was like 8 or 9 months pregnant at the time she was attacked. I remember he stabbed her in the stomach several times but the baby lived.

That case scared the heck out of me too. What is so chilling is when the whole scene of when the lady was sitting in her car drinking her pop and then all of a sudden some man with a knife is at her window, is done in slow motion.

I remember that as well. All I know is that many woman were murdered by a serial killer. All the murders occurred in New Hampshire, though one body was found just a little bit over the border line in Vermont. I heard somewhere that the serial killer is called the Valley Killer. Maybe that is from a different case though.

Does anyone know if there is an update on the story of the woman with the 49r license plate. Some man followed her and a friend of hers when they left a restaurant. Her friend went to see what the problem was with the man and he shot him when he walked up to him. He looked at the lady and drove off. I have been curious about the reason he was after the two.

Originally posted by Quagmire
Does anyone know if there is an update on the story of the woman with the 49r license plate. Some man followed her and a friend of hers when they left a restaurant. Her friend went to see what the problem was with the man and he shot him when he walked up to him. He looked at the lady and drove off. I have been curious about the reason he was after the two.

I think i know which case that was, and I too have been wondering if there has been an update on it. It was very strange cuz it was a pretty random thing, to shoot someone point blank. I hope there is an update.

Hey all-this is my first post. I was so excited to find an Unsolved Mysteries message board.
Anyway-some of the cases that really get to me are:

*This girl stops at a pay phone late at night and a guy in a beat up truck stops there also and kind of hangs around. She asks him if he needs the phone and she says no. ANyway, he ends up abducting her and she is never seen again. The guy who took her allegedly had a fish mural thing on the back window of his pick up. Ring a bell?

SO many more, but I cannot remember very many specifics. I am going to have to dig out some old tapes so I am not trying to describe like:

"that one really creepy one with that guy that was really suspicious and then he disappeared." haha, I am sure no one will be able to tell me which one I am referring to if I do that.

Someone already mentioned the Matt Flores case. Oh and while scrolling down to see what the name of the case was, I see that the same poster mentioned the case I mentioned about-Angela Hammond. CREEPY!

Hey, the Angela Hammond episode Aired today, and I recorded it! :D

The Blind River Rest Stop murders. My heart broke for Gord McAllister as he is describing how losing his wife made him die inside and he didn't care if the man got to him. How sad! The other man who died also left behind a family. That composite was freaky!

The woman who "spoke" to her in SC, I don't know. She's either got a few screws loose or a publicity hound who made up the whole thing. I still don't get how she could have spoken to this girl, who was murdered the same night she was abducted in New York.

The Crystal Spencer unsolved murder case gets to me. I keep hoping to see the segment on unsolved mysteries, but I haven't seen it yet.

Also, the case of Jaclyn Dowaliby. Her parents, David and Cynthia Dowaliby were suspects in the case, but were later acquitted I think. There was a film made of that case, too. It's called Gone In The Night. It's so sad.:( I think Jaclyn was only seven years old when she was kidnapped and murderered.

Crystal Spencer's neighbors needed to be bitch smacked at the least. She was screaming horrible screams and they did nothing. The least they could have done was call 911 before going back to sleep. Smacks completely of Kitty Genovese.

Asides from the ghost stories, one of the cases that got to me was the couple that was killed while they were making love in the back seat of a car. It was in the 1950's along the Louisiana bayou (I forget the name of the actual lake, but its close to Baton Rouge). The guy's name was pronounced Ho-tod. That older couple that was suspected to be ones who murdered the couple was what really creeped me out. That lady looked like Roseanne!
Anybody remember this case?

Audrey Moat and Thomas Hotard. It's on one of CD's UM DVDs. Kind of a sad case. Those swamp people were creepy. She did look like Roseanne!:lol:

The NH Serial Killer. The reenactment was creepy!

The Mothman case still scares me. i even got scarred watching it in broad daylight.:(

I think of all the UFO and bizzare phenomenom, for some reason Mothman is the most frightening because he actually seemed to be attacking people. It wasn;t like Bigfoot sightings or even UFO abductions. It looked like Mothman chased people to there homes and seemed to want to kill people.


Theres that one still of the segment where you can even see the red eyes of the Mothman. I would love to have a screen capture of it?

Some UMs best special effects were in that segment.:cool:

The Kari Lynn Nixon case really bothers me, too. She really didn't put herself in that vulnerable of a situation. She was in a small town that was safe for the most part and she was a mile or less than a mile from her house at some store. A POS apparently lived in that area at one point and decided to do what he did when he was invited back for a week by his parents.

very sad

http://images.cnhi.zope.net/images_sizedimage_172234519/lg

She was very pretty.

Some interesting cases here, quite a few that got to me too...

For me one that stood out was the L'Enfant (sp?) case.

Just an all around wierd case that will probably never be fully explained.. Oh and the reanactment with the child's laughter was pretty freaky too.

ditto for L'Enfant and also Tara Calico....assuming the picture is real which I am currently undecided on.

Someone said the kid's voice sounded like Gary Coleman lol (I guess that's a lighthearted moment from a very dark and eerie segment). ;)

Anyway.. even though I've seen almost all the cases by now, there's always been some segments that affected or fascinated me more than others:


Jenny Pratt - her being a beautiful innocent victim of her sleazy surfer dude bf's enemies, compounded with her mom's b*tchy attitude on the telecenter episode 2 years later (sorry to be blunt, but it's the truth)

Baskins (especially with the not so happy 2009 update) - the real injustice is that the Maples won. Sandra is dead with no punishment, Marvin's is a joke and they succeeded in brainwashing the kids to this day.

Angie Hammond - one of the most talked about cases, and also one of the first I saw back in '93. Made me wary that even in safe small towns something like this can happen.

Annette Burnside - I'm against the death penalty, but Jim is such a POS I'd make an exception. Stalking laws weren't as enforced as they are now, and if they had been, she'd probably still be alive. Just horrible how he not only killed her, but made their whole marriage a living hell (middle aged chauvenist pig + a violent temper + controlling = horrible combination).

1997 road rage where the little kid was killed in the backseat (after the bullet pierced his teddy bear). :(

Christi Nichols - just another sad case of an abused girl with a scumbag husband. I don't think I've ever seen someone so guilty who (almost certainly) got away with murder.

Roger Dean - another early one I saw that always just intrigued me (gotta love using a Stack word too). :) Even if Roger was involved in a double life and ticked someone off, he didn't seem like the type (middle aged wealthy family man) who would've had someone wanting to kill him. Double tragedy since his wife and daughter were harrassed 5-6 years later by him. I wonder how they are today.

Annette Burnside - I'm against the death penalty, but Jim is such a POS I'd make an exception. Stalking laws weren't as enforced as they are now, and if they had been, she'd probably still be alive. Just horrible how he not only killed her, but made their whole marriage a living hell (middle aged chauvenist pig + a violent temper + controlling = horrible combination).

I hate to sound so doom and gloom like but I think Annette was doomed regardless of being targeted then or if it had happened in 2010. Even if the divorce hearing went as planned, Jim was going to eventually get her.

A restraining order really doesn't mean anything, especially if your tormentor is hellbent on getting you. And Jim was such a psycho, he wasn't going to quit until he got her. The police officer interviewed in the segment made a statement that was disturbing but very true, even by today's standards; unless you have a bodyguard at your side 24 hours a day, if someone wants to get you, they're going to get you.

Annette's fate was sealed the day she married that miserable excuse for a human being. She either stayed with him and lived a nightmare or left him and lived a nightmare trying to avoid him. There's no win there. Such a tragic case.

I hate to sound so doom and gloom like but I think Annette was doomed regardless of being targeted then or if it had happened in 2010. Even if the divorce hearing went as planned, Jim was going to eventually get her.

A restraining order really doesn't mean anything, especially if your tormentor is hellbent on getting you. And Jim was such a psycho, he wasn't going to quit until he got her. The police officer interviewed in the segment made a statement that was disturbing but very true, even by today's standards; unless you have a bodyguard at your side 24 hours a day, if someone wants to get you, they're going to get you.

Annette's fate was sealed the day she married that miserable excuse for a human being. She either stayed with him and lived a nightmare or left him and lived a nightmare trying to avoid him. There's no win there. Such a tragic case.

I actually agree with you. Technology and laws are better then they were in 1988, but Jim was too psychotic and let's face it, if someone is determined to get you (sadly) they usually will. He seemed like a sociopath, and come to think of it, I'm surprised he hadn't committed a murder before. Beating women is horrible enough, but anyone who would tell their 5-year old daughter he'd kill her can't have much of a consciousness.

It's too bad they couldn't have arrested and KEPT him in custody after the incident at their house.

I actually agree with you. Technology and laws are better then they were in 1988, but Jim was too psychotic and let's face it, if someone is determined to get you (sadly) they usually will. He seemed like a sociopath, and come to think of it, I'm surprised he hadn't committed a murder before. Beating women is horrible enough, but anyone who would tell their 5-year old daughter he'd kill her can't have much of a consciousness.

It's too bad they couldn't have arrested and KEPT him in custody after the incident at their house.

It amazes me he wasn't immediately put under close watch after being reported by Annette. She should have stayed with family and NEVER came back to him after the incident with the car.

I am somewhat ashamed by the fact that the FBI agent who shot Jim during the arrest wasn't a slightly better marksman. That way, no one would have to waste any taxpayer money to get this delusional POS a lawyer, judge, jury, jail cell, and accomodations.

If it were up to me, instead of getting two life sentences (what he is currently serving), his sentence would be getting tied to a chair, then tortured by Annette's family until he begged for his life. Then he would spend the rest of his life in solitary confinement.

Just watched the one about Betty Field Day, Bill Day and their son Cristophe. Nothing but anger flows through me when I think of what that woman did. Bill Day has all my sympathy for losing his son and not finding him until it was too late.

The Gus Hoffman case really got to me. What right did those Psycho ADULT Bikers have to abduct and kill an innocent 17 year old kid who was merely out riding his Motorbike? Also his Mother was clearly devastated during her interview not knowing what had happened to her Son. :(

Definitely:

-Rachel Runyan. The short little UM segment was SO sad and SO creepy at the same time. What happened to this sweet little girl, and do we really even want to know??

-Star Palumbo. She just seemed like a young woman who had lost her way in life, as many of us do, only she...vanished.

-Kurt Sova. So sad, and also (I think) one of the most truly baffling mysteries ever featured on UM.

-Keri Lyn Nixon. Someone snatched her from such a relatively safe place...so frightening.

-Tammy Leppert. I was scared to death the first time I watched this segment...so disturbing/creepy/wtf happened??

For me it would have to be:

1) Rachel Runyon - I really don't know why the hell anyone would wanna harm and murder another human being, let alone a small child. This one really made my stomach turn. It's a really sad, appalling case and I truly hope the authorities someday find the piece of sh*t responsible.

2) Crystal Spencer - Oh maaaaan... This one's just a headache. Just my humble opinion - but to me, it seems like someone holding a position either in the municipal government or law enforcement developed a crush on the poor girl while frequenting the bar she danced at and decided the old, "if they can't have her no one can" and took her out.

OR... she may just have died of some say, allergic reaction to medication or maybe some killer flu (or whatever "natural causes"..I don't really know). However, that being said, the autopsy reports were all screwed up (i.e. the wrong person) and her body has since been cremated- so it's highly doubtful
if this case will ever be solved. Unless someone comes forward with some answers. "When they screw up, they cover up" indeed. And the goofball neighbors didn't really help either


3) Amy Bradley - As much as I like to adhere to the philosophy of Occam's Razor and figure she accidently fell off the cruise ship, there's this problem I have with some photographs that have surfaced about five (?) years ago.
Someone's gotta know exactly who the person is in these pics. (I'm referring to the girl in the pics with the long, black hair)


http://www.hyscience.com/archives/amy_bradley2.jpg

(you can see the full pics by clicking the "Dr. Phil" link on the Amy Bradley Wikipedia entry)


4) Tara Calico: Again, another missing person case where a certain photograph may assist in making or breaking this case. We know the boy in the pic is not Michael Henley as his remains have since been found.

So who are the people in the picture? Is it really Tara?
What do you guys think?

http://www.TaraCalico.com/

Or is it some people just fooling around? Or is it perhaps a pic of some other kids being kidnapped? Tara was last seen in New Mexico and the photo was found discarded (?) in a store parking lot in Florida. I wonder if there's anyway to find out who purchased the (Polaroid) film by using the photo's serial number on the back of the photo at all? It's probably already been tried I'm sure.

The Valencia County sheriff, Rene Rivera, claims to know that some local boys (accidently?) severely injured Tara, panicked and buried her somewhere. However, like the Amy Bradley case, no remains have ever been discovered so who really knows what's happened.


5) Ethel Kidd - Probably one of the most bizarre homicides ever featured on UM. Even though the person responsible, Edward Wayne Beverly, was captured and sent to prison, he died about three years ago, so we'll never know what compelled him to rape, murder, refrigerate and tie the poor woman's body to a tree.

Other than the fact Edward Wayne Beverly was just plain bat-sh*t crazy

6) All the dudes who have seemingly gotten away with Uxoricide or potential Uxoricide

That would include: Leonard Rizzo, Don Sherman, Jule Caylor, Paul Pollis, and Mark Nichols

All these suspects seem to care very little how their wives ended up dead or missing and all provide really weak and/ or highly suspicious arguments. Like Tim McClure, either they're really super bad at lying or they're just a bunch of idiots (or in some cases, both!)

7) Persons suspected of homicide but have also have seemingly beaten the rap

This would include: Don Dixon, Sheriff Wampler, Judy Groezinger, and Gabriel "Caradoc” Carillo

Again, either they're bad liars or they just give really dumb, incriminating statements..... or maybe they're just freaks. (cough) Don (Cough) Dixon..(cough)"Caradoc”(cough)


8) Arnold Archambeau and Ruby Bruguier - Okay so again, y'know, I'm leaning more to the fact that they died accidently, y'know. What I wanna know is, y'know... when this story was originally run on UM, y'know - they showed a part where " a witness claimed to have seen Arnold, accompanied by three other people on New Year’s Eve, almost three weeks after he was reported missing. Authorities brought the witness in for a polygraph exam. She passed. "

But when this story was run later on, y'know, this part was taken out, y'know.

So did this actually happen or what? (And don't even get me started on polygraphs because I personally it's an archaic law enforcement practice and oughtta be discontinued)


9) Ohio Prostitute Killer - Was this ever solved or were there even any more leads? (I haven't gotten around to reading the thread for this yet)


10) Bobbie Jo Oberholzer & Annette Kay Schnee - The orange socks aspect makes it all the more weirder (To me, anyway) Anything new on this case? I also kinda really feel sorry for Jeff Oberholtzer - the man loses his wife and was the main suspect for like, what, over a decade? Y'know... I'm no detective by any means... but a motive might help


11) Beverly McGowan - Super brutal and another one of the more bizarre cases. The main suspect, Elaine Antoinette Parent, committed suicide and no one knows who the accomplice dude who looked like a lady is so who knows if this one will ever be truly resolved. I dunno if any new leads have come to light -if so, I'm curious to know



12) Megan Curl - This poor woman. Yet another brutal and bizarre case.
I think if was fellow UM Forum poster, Mastermind, who suggested that maybe her death may have been accidental. I think that's very possible. Megan and some dude get all freaky naughty, he accidently chokes her and she dies. Dude panics and decides to hide the evidence by burning down her apartment and making look like an accidental fire. So unless someone comes forward and sings or 'fesses up, who knows if this one will ever be solved?


Anyway folks, just my two cents

I think if was fellow UM Forum poster, Mastermind, who suggested that maybe her death may have been accidental.

Yes, I felt it was possible this was rough sex that got out of hand.

9) Ohio Prostitute Killer - Was this ever solved or were there even any more leads? (I haven't gotten around to reading the thread for this yet)

It;s been the belief of some posters (including myself) that there is more than one Ohio prostitute killer. Possibly multiple serial killers.

8) Arnold Archambeau and Ruby Bruguier - Okay so again, y'know, I'm leaning more to the fact that they died accidently, y'know. What I wanna know is, y'know... when this story was originally run on UM, y'know - they showed a part where " a witness claimed to have seen Arnold, accompanied by three other people on New Year’s Eve, almost three weeks after he was reported missing. Authorities brought the witness in for a polygraph exam. She passed. "

Read up on some of the recent posts.

It;s been my belief that at the very least, Arnold Archambeau did not die the night of the crash. That he died much later and was dumped in the pond.

The question is whether he died of natural cause or was killed by the person(s) that were hiding him.

The dog kennel fire case, very sad :(

11) Beverly McGowan - Super brutal and another one of the more bizarre cases. The main suspect, Elaine Antoinette Parent, committed suicide and no one knows who the accomplice dude who looked like a lady is so who knows if this one will ever be truly resolved. I dunno if any new leads have come to light -if so, I'm curious to know



Many people believe the male accomplice was just Elaine Parent in disguise.

Interesting theory...

So she was a woman, dressed as a man, pretending to be a woman?

Interesting theory...

So she was a woman, dressed as a man, pretending to be a woman?

yep, crazy but true. She often pretended to be a man.

No wait, lol - I just wanna clarify something here -

I can totally understand a woman posing as a man or vice-versa

but why would say a woman pretend to be a man... pretending to be a woman?

Just kinda seems like more trouble than it's worth, don'tcha think?

It's like saying she's a "Cross dresser dresser"




Or would that be Cross Cross dresser? :confused:

Hmmm... I think I just wrote a song here...instead of saying "Ice Ice Baby" you can sing "Cross Cross Dresser" Now that's catchy!




(Okay I'm gonna copyright this! LOL)

Of course you could always substitute "Cross Cross Dresser" with "Jet Jet Taylor" ;)

Amy Billig: I have always thought about her and her mom looking in all the Biker Bars, for some reason this episode always stuck with me. I need to read through the updates to see if she was ever found

Found a thread on Amy Billig

This forum is great, I have lurked for a while but never made an account

I hope I can add some cool thoughts and stories from watching UM as a kid in the 80s and then again as a teen in the 90s on Lifetime

This forum is great, I have lurked for a while but never made an account

I hope I can add some cool thoughts and stories from watching UM as a kid in the 80s and then again as a teen in the 90s on Lifetime

Welcome...:wave:

Amy Billig: I have always thought about her and her mom looking in all the Biker Bars, for some reason this episode always stuck with me. I need to read through the updates to see if she was ever found


I love your avatar. That was one of the freakiest segments ever!

Thanks guys

That segment has freaked me out forever, I had to make it my avatar

I saw a case one time in broad daylight and it scared the heck out of me. It was about 2-3 years ago since I saw it last, but I remember it vividly. A woman pulled into an abondoned store parking lot (since it was around midnight or so) to buy a soft drink...this car pulls up next to her. We see her sitting in her car for a few secs, and then BAM! the guy in the next car has snuck around to her window and attacked. He stabs her and she plays dead in the parking lot so he'll leave her alone. It works! He drives away. She waits a few mins, then heads off to find some help. Horror of horrors. She's driving so fast to find help that she runs up on her attacker on the dark road! He's just driving along at a leisurely pace. She pulls off the road at a house and gets help, just as the man realizes she's come up on him, and he turns around, but someone in the house had come out to help the victim, so all he can do is stare for a second, then drive away. I have never been as scared during a case as when I saw this! How unimaginably frightening that mustve been when she realized she caught up with the man who just attacked her!

Which case was this? I dont remember this one and would love to see the episode.

Which case was this? I dont remember this one and would love to see the episode.

That would be the NH serial killer one. The pregnant woman who was attacked has actually posted on the board several times. I believe her screen name is janie or jaynie but not positive.

Hi,

I'm new to the forum, but I've long been a fan of Unsolved Mysteries, and over the years, I've taped just about every Lifetime episode ever shown. One of the many things that really gets the wheels turning in my head whenever I watch the show is trying to decide the guilt or innocence of people claiming innocence in the face of either being in jail or under suspicion for something serious, and one case that has always haunted me deeply that I haven't seen anyone else mention in this thread is the case of Michael Lloyd Self. Of all the "people-claiming-innocence" cases that I've seen, I have never believed from day one that this guy is guilty. Self was sentenced to life in prison for the 1970 murders or two teenage girls, and has been repeatedly been denied parole despite numerous questionable circumstances that almost certainly point to him NOT being the killer. Now, it is mentioned early in the segment that Self is by no means a perfect person, and he had had minor brushes with the law before, but never for anything that would make you think he was a murderer. Suspicion first fell upon him when it was discovered that he he had given a ride to the victims, but all accounts say that, following the ride, the girls were alive and unharmed when they parted company with Self. It has been well documented that the two detectives handling the case at the time seemed overly sure of Self's guilt and were extremely threatening towards him, using some harsh methods of intimidation and instilling fear within him to attempt to get a confession out of him. Self did sign a confession, but always claimed it was out of fear of the detectives, a claim that would later be given tremendous credibility by several unusual occurrences. First, the two detectives would later "go bad," eventually being convicted of armed robbery. Second, and perhaps most strangely, the two detectives took Self on an unauthorized trip in which they claimed they would buy him dinner out. During the trip, the detectives stopped at several places that held some type of importance in the case and took pictures of Self in these locations. These photos were later used as "evidence" of Self being in these locations. Third, at least two other detectives/officers who had some role in the original investigation would appear in the segment saying that they no longer believed that it held any legitimacy. Around the time the segment aired, another parole hearing was held for Michael Self, in which he was once again rejected, and from that point on I don't know what, if anything, has become of Self or the case.

Note: The segment has Self being 21 at the time of the murders, which would mean that he was born in either 1948 or 1949, and on an eerie note, some online research that I did shows that a Michael L. Self born in 1948 died in either 2000 or '01. I don't have a way of knowing whether or not it's actually him, but I'll strongly bet that it is, and that the stress of the whole thing probably killed him, or that perhaps he even killed himself in despair. If anyone knows anything that I don't, please post a reply, or if youhave any thoughts on this case, I'd be happy to hear them.

Found a thread on Amy Billig

This forum is great, I have lurked for a while but never made an account

I hope I can add some cool thoughts and stories from watching UM as a kid in the 80s and then again as a teen in the 90s on Lifetime

Welcome Omar, eeerr.... I mean Alvin ;)

Welcome McBevis! Yes I have always thought Self was innocent myself. Yes that he did die in 2000 having never been exonerated. Here is an old thread about the case:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=197392

Welcome McBevis! Yes I have always thought Self was innocent myself. Yes that he did die in 2000 having never been exonerated. Here is an old thread about the case:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=197392

Thank you very much, Crystaldawn. I'll probably be spending a lot of time here. There are actually many UM cases that have gotten to me one way or another, and there was one that came to mind recently that really creeped me out when I first saw it, and as far as I know it has never been solved.

It's the Tracy Wofford-Bunn case, the one where the girl from Baton Rouge, Louisiana was found dead in her Ford Fiesta(!), and the witness who was the first to discover this initially thought that she was just napping before taking a closer look. I'm not really sure what it is, whether because there are no solid suspects, or perhaps because it happened in the middle of the night, or maybe even because of that weird occurrence with the stick shift in the Fiesta, or all of these things, but I've always been creeped out by this one.

One that is always very heartbreaking whenever I see it was the story of Gale Samuels, an adopted middle-aged woman who came down with a rare and dangerous blood disorder that she would die from if she couldn't find a blood relative to receive a transfusion from. So she set out to find her relatives, something that she thought would be challenging but not impossible - until she discovered that the guy who was in charge of her adoption records was a devious liar who replaced a lot of Gale's adoption information with ficticious information. This pretty much cheated Gale out of the opportunity to save her life, and she passed away 2 years after the show aired.

When it comes to tears of joy, it's hard to pick a single favorite lost-love story, but one that always gets to me in that good way is the Tim Harrell story. He the guy who was found in a trash can as a baby in 1946 and grew up being told that his mother was a worthless tramp that he should never want to have anything to do with, and when she contacted him in the 70s, he yelled at her and told her he never wanted to hear from her again. When he eventually found out that his mother was not the horrible person he thought she was, he made a staunch resolve to find her, even going so far as to say the "even if she's dead, I want to kneel in front of her grave and talk to her." Thankfully, he soon discovered that she was not only still alive, but wanted to see him just as much.

There are actually many UM cases that have gotten to me one way or another, and there was one that came to mind recently that really creeped me out when I first saw it, and as far as I know it has never been solved.

It's the Tracy Wofford-Bunn case, the one where the girl from Baton Rouge, Louisiana was found dead in her Ford Fiesta(!), and the witness who was the first to discover this initially thought that she was just napping before taking a closer look. I'm not really sure what it is, whether because there are no solid suspects, or perhaps because it happened in the middle of the night, or maybe even because of that weird occurrence with the stick shift in the Fiesta, or all of these things, but I've always been creeped out by this one.



Actually that one was solved. Here's a link about it:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=201614

Actually that one was solved. Here's a link about it:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=201614

Thank you for letting me know. There are so many threads here that I haven't had time to go through very many of them yet, so I guess there are probably some cases that have been solved that I have yet to find that out about.

Welcome Omar, eeerr.... I mean Alvin ;)

:lol:

I might have to make "Omar" my member title

Thanks for the welcome

Omar the Arsonist would be a great name for a heavy metal band. :D

Yeah! I also like Mastermind's other suggestion for a metal band name-

"Satanic Grandma!" :rock:



With such great hits like:


"Satan's Home Bakin'

"Goat Headed Granny"

and of course the epic,

"What do you expect me to buy with a dollar?"

:guitar:

Okay, I've had my moment.....

I don't remember names but its the case of the dad who kills his son and his friend. That was just a sad case. The kid was sick (think he had cystic fibrosis) and had made this lady friend who he liked but she just wanted to be friend and he called her to give her a ride to his dad house. He was just the scum of the earth that guy and ended up killing both of them. That case was just so sad and I especially feel bad for the son and how it's not only bad that your dad kills you but that you cause the death of your friend who you also have feeling for. I hope the dad rots.

The cases that really got to me include, but are not limited to the following.

Gus Hoffman. Senseless. Period. Those pieces of human waste bikers killed him simply because they could. Then, when being questioned by detectives, they act all arrogant as if to say "you can't touch us". One of them even told a detective to "get the heck out of here". Like he was some sort of intimidating bad @ss.

Dewayne McCorkandale. Another senseless tragedy. Dewayne never carried a lot of money for his own safety. And yet, those dregs of society killed him anyway. And then, they had the audacity to laugh into the CB radio and say that they would drive any way they wanted to and for other truckers to stay out of their way. I hope someone gets in their way alright. And then does something about them.

Blind River Rest Stop Killings. Yet another senseless killing. That worthless piece of crap who murdered Jackie McAllister and Brian Majors probably didn't even care about the valuable items he took. He just wanted to kill someone and he did. I would LOVE for someone to catch up to the blind river killer and pull two shotguns on him and tell him that they're going to rob him and then kill him. Seems like the only fitting way for him to go! :mad: Well, I don't know, either that or a long, drawn out torture for him!

Carolina hit and run. Again, just stupid, pointless. What did that piece of crap gain by running them off the road? They did nothing to that creep. I would pay money to watch someone pull up to him in his Monte Carlo and ram it 5,6, 7 times before running it off the road. Preferably, I'd like it to be an 18 wheeler that does the job!

Dexter Stefonek. The guy in that truck who killed Dexter did it because Dexter was an old man. Period. Had he come across someone different that day at the Bad Route Rest Area, he would have chickened out. I'd like to see that guy encounter another Dexter. As in Dexter Morgan! If you watch the tv series Dexter, you'll know what I mean!

Cindy James is one that is extremely vexing to me. Her case is just an odd one. I can't seem to decide whether it was suicide or murder. It seems she was under incredible mental duress, and the statement her mother made about Cindy committing suicide by "just laying there" makes me question whether suicide is a stretch. The circumstances around her death are just flabbergasting, which takes away from any belief it was suicide.

Franklin Delano Floyd is extremely sad, just because there is no real background on either Suzanne or Michael Hughes, so it's hard to tell where she came from and who is missing her. It's always bugged me, though. The way UM described Floyd, he seemed possessive of Suzanne. That being said, if he wasn't the father of Michael, who was? Is it possible she shed some insight to that person who fathered Michael on her background? Also, Floyd made numerous confessions on Michael's fate (i.e he's in Atlanta, he strangled him in a bath tub, et.c). Are there any corroborating witnesses? And, if he buried him, as stated with the bath tub confession, above a grave in a cemetery, couldn't a person with knowledge of his confession tell which cemetery it was? It's a horrifying thing to know a poor woman was probably killed by a man who possibly kidnapped her, and it's worse to know her child might have met his demise at the hands of the same person.

The two kids who were hit by the train in Arkansas is another appalling one. It's a shame that, not only were they murdered, but, the police lackadaisically investigated their deaths.

The way UM described Floyd, he seemed possessive of Suzanne. That being said, if he wasn't the father of Michael, who was? Is it possible she shed some insight to that person who fathered Michael on her background?

I read the book A Beautiful Child about this case. I believe it names Michael's father, and I think someone else posted about it here on the boards, but I've forgotten the details at the moment.

It seems like Michael's father met Sharon/Suzanne while she was dancing or waitressing, they started dating, she became pregnant, and when FDF found out about it, he separated them. (I'm not even sure that Michael's father knew he had a son until quite a while after the fact.) Floyd had a history of doing that to Sharon for her entire life. Every time she made a connection with a friend or boyfriend, Floyd would uproot her whole life, move, change their names, etc, and isolate her again.

The book does mention Michael's real father. It's a tragic read and makes me wish something could be done to coerce information out of FDF. If anyone deserves cruel and unusual punishment, it's him. This case really gets me because justice isn't really being done, in my opinion. Too much is unknown, like where Michael really is and proof that FDF killed Sharon. It's almost certain the poor kid is dead and that tears me up.

All of the road rage murder cases= senseless, heartless violence that never should have occurred.

Kathy Hobbes murder and her mother reading the letter.

Amy Billig missing and NEVER being found despite her mother's valiant efforts. I can't imagine over thirty years of that.

Lisa Ziegert's murder.

Elizabeth Campbell's parents saying that no matter what someone has done to her, they'll always love her.

Baskin case. What kind of sick people would tear their family apart like that? I know we don't have all of the information, but it's beyond tragic. Imagine your mother and father pulling that stunt on you and then your kids not wanting to see you after you've wanted to see them for almost twenty years and have been worried sick about them. If I was the other brother, I would try to see them and do what I could but I bet he's already tried. There's another child abduction case where the mother searched over THIRTY years for her kid and he didn't want to see her. NO. That is just awful. He must have been totally brainwashed.

Christophe Day - I don't care what the father and mother had against each other, there is no way the mother should have taken him like that and to top it all off he finds out his son died at 18 years old. You will never, ever, ever, get over that. Your son is kidnapped, alive and well, probably is brainwashed into hating you if he even thinks you are alive and you don't even get the chance to tell him your side because he died from an unrelated disease (forget what it was)

Blind River Killers - Seemed like such a nice, nice man. Married to his wife for 39 years and then at a rest stop their motorhome gets targeted and his wife is shot as well as a potential good samaritan.

Ayleen Conway - Mysterious. Just the word that jumps out at me. How can you ever have any peace when there are literally 25 different ways that Ayleen could have died.

Angela Hammond - If Rob Shaver is telling the truth, and most of us think he is, I don't care whether or not he has moved on with his life, gotten married, started a family, etc., he will always have that in the back of his mind that his former fiance - and child - could be alive somewhere. Or if he has accepted their probable death, the whole "what if" scenario. Angela I assume was his first love.

Get to me in what way? If you mean scared, the ATV murders, Jasper Watkins and those prostitute murder cases freak me out. The ones that make me sad are ones that involve children, young women and college students that were suddenly taken away from their families and never got to grow up and experience life.

The ones that really get to me are where someone just disappears, with hardly any evidence at all. No body, no bones, no crime scene, it's like the wind just swept them up and took them away. That REALLY creeps me out. I hope that if I end up being killed or something like that, my remains are at least found and identified.

The Dave Bocks/"nuclear reactor murder" case, too.

Also, this may seem weird in comparison to others that have been mentioned, but the John DeMars case that was part of the Dorothy Allison psychic compendium. It was only a mystery for a few months, but what happened to him just chills me through and through. He was taking a nap on the train home, like he probably did every day, he's jolted, he exits half-asleep thinking he's home, and suddenly he's drowning and completely utterly helpless to do anything but die, terrified and alone.

Get to me in what way? If you mean scared, the ATV murders, Jasper Watkins and those prostitute murder cases freak me out. The ones that make me sad are ones that involve children, young women and college students that were suddenly taken away from their families and never got to grow up and experience life.
"Get to you" I'm pretty sure is meant more along the lines of what upsets you and bothers you long after you see the segment. Like the tragedy of Crystal Spencer and her neighbors not calling the police, which could have saved her life or Tracey Kirkpatrick being savagely murdered for no good reason and then the killer never being caught, even though they have a pretty good suspect. Those are just another two that pop off the top of my head and bother me. There are some segments I just skip because they're too sad. I find the Michael Hunter one where he's just riding around and gets shot really hard to watch, as well as Keith Warren. No resolution for either of these really upsets me.

The ones that really get to me are where someone just disappears, with hardly any evidence at all. No body, no bones, no crime scene, it's like the wind just swept them up and took them away. That REALLY creeps me out. I hope that if I end up being killed or something like that, my remains are at least found and identified.

The Dave Bocks/"nuclear reactor murder" case, too.

Also, this may seem weird in comparison to others that have been mentioned, but the John DeMars case that was part of the Dorothy Allison psychic compendium. It was only a mystery for a few months, but what happened to him just chills me through and through. He was taking a nap on the train home, like he probably did every day, he's jolted, he exits half-asleep thinking he's home, and suddenly he's drowning and completely utterly helpless to do anything but die, terrified and alone.
THIS! Missing persons cases where they just vanish are so upsetting and leave families and friends out in the cold having to wonder each day what happened. Many never get answers. Charley Project is a fascination for me, but it's also very depressing because you know most of these people never have/never will be found.

The Dave Bocks case is so frustrating. I bet someone at that plant is responsible, but they'll probably never prove it since almost thirty years have passed. His family can't even give him the dignity of a proper service and that's beyond frustrating and tragic.

All of the Dorothy Allison segments are so sad.
The little drowning boy is so sad. How many times did I play along the water as a kid and that could have happened to me?
The man on the train, I always think the same thing. From the mundane to suddenly dying. I wonder if he hit his head and maybe blacked out and didn't have to be conscious while drowning. I hope he didn't suffer.
The Susan Jacobson case also gets to me. I hope that boyfriend is still rotting in jail for killing an innocent 14-year-old. It also saddens me because her case was initially called a runaway case. How many are misclassified? That thought bothers me.
And probably the saddest is that they still haven't found justice for Lori Zimmerman. What a brutal murder. I hope that monster is off the streets and imprisoned for another crime or something, but it would be good for her family and the community to know the killer has been caught. He needs to stay off the streets for good killing an innocent young girl. Just plain sick.

Dave Bocks
Danny Casolaro
Dale Kerstetter
Kevin Ives and Don Henry
Stanley Gryziec

Stanley Gryziec
His wife "just existing" for the next twenty months broke my heart. RS saying that the shock was too great is hard to get out of my head. Makes me even angrier that this is unsolved.

Lisa Marie Kimmell. Beautiful young girl just off on a trip and gets not only murdered, but tortured. She was only eighteen years old. This case REALLY gets to me and I have a hard time watching it. The main comfort is knowing that the killer is caught and Lisa's parents burned his property to the ground. But it's so sad to even think about. Especially when at the trial they played a voice recording that the police officer took when they gave a ticket to her and the family heard her voice for the first time in over a decade. That really ripped me up and I can only image the family's pain.

Quite a few come to mind
(1) Lynn Amos -the banker in Washington DC who was ambushed in her home, forced to drink copious amounts of alcohol and then set on fire. She just looked like such a beautiful, vivacious, lovely person with a bright future and that is a horrible way for anyone to have to die (and she survived under what must have been quite painful conditions for a long time). Also the perverted creep who did this will likely never get caught and that's a shame because he does deserve to suffer for a long, long time for what he did to her

(2) Antoinette Cayedito -Partly because the re-enactment was so scary and partly because there's enough evidence to suggest she must have been alive for quite a time while the perverted creeps who took her imprisoned her against her will. I hope one day they get caught and punished to the maximum

(3) Lisa Ziegert -Such a stunningly, beautiful, radiant, kind woman who obviously was changing people's lives for the better and never hurt anyone and to have that happen to her was absolutely horrible. It also enrages me that the sadistic monster who did it has never been captured. I hope that he is at some point and the death penalty would probably be too good for him

(4) Dana Satterfield -Another bright, vivacious, talented, kind woman killed by a sadistic monster. It scared me how close that saleswoman came to the killer. Glad they caught him

(5) Annette Burnside -Haven't watched this one in a while but it was so tragic that her husband ended up being able to make her life a living hell and managed to kill her. Another one the death penalty would be too good for

(6) Angela Hammond -The circumstances of her abduction were very frightening but what irks me about this case is that she was so very close to being rescued by her boyfriend. Needless to say, I hope the creep is found

Cases with older or elderly victims REALLY get to me. Some heartbreaking examples on UM include:

-Blind River rest stop murders (I've never been able to watch it a second time)
-Ethel Kidd
-Rogest Cain
-Dorothy Donovan

Cases with older or elderly victims REALLY get to me. Some heartbreaking examples on UM include:

-Blind River rest stop murders (I've never been able to watch it a second time)
-Ethel Kidd
-Rogest Cain
-Dorothy Donovan
Agreed on all counts. I'd like to add Bill Henderson as well.

If "get to you" means saddens you, then:

-Kathy Hobbs
-Bobbie Oberholtzer and Annette Schnee
-Roxann Jeeves and Kristopher Korper
-Mabel Woods
-Gail Delano
-Bill Henderson
-Gretchen Burford
-Michael Fagan
-Michael Hunter
-Annette Burnside

But the granddaddy of them all for me is Dwayne McCorkendale. SO senseless and stupid.

The Lisa Ziegert case is quite upsetting. She seemed to be a bright young women who inspired many young students. Her death was immensely sad. I'll never forget how one of her students had said that she wished there were more people like Lisa in the world.

I also find many of the cases involving young individuals (children, teens, etc.) to be particularly sad. Individuals like Lauren Jackson and Michael Hughes would be in their twenties if they were alive today. It's depressing to think how their lives were cut short. :(

Kari Lynn Nixon. I've risked it by going out alone at night. This happened to be the night that her killer was back in his hometown for a night and at the same store where she went. He saw her and wanted her and had the gun to make her get in the car. I can't help thinking about this one a lot. If I had been 16 and walking home and some guy pulled up with a gun, I would have probably gotten in the car, too, hoping it would save my life to cooperate. And it didn't plus she got raped and tortured at his cabin. Imagining her last hours makes me want to cry. She was so young and seemed really vivacious and like a family girl.

The Lisa Ziegert case also really upsets me. Well-loved by all and sweet by all accounts, she's just at her job when she gets kidnapped, raped, and murdered. Just so horrible and tragic.

I know the Teracita Basa case is mostly focused upon for the supernatural element, but that one got to me a lot. She was kind and a good nurse and gets murdered when she lets her coworker in. Imagine being attacked by someone you trusted so well. And murdered for her jewelry? It's so senseless! To make it even worse, he only got 14 years!

The one I can't even watch is the James White one. The drunk driver who kills the elderly couple. The reenactment just makes me cry and the daughter being interviewed. I love my parents so much and worry about their health and well-being. This case is so upsetting to me.

The Lost Loves cases where they can't find their loved ones. So sad. Like Geoffrey Harding...why couldn't those girls have just returned him to his actual family?!

Kari Lynn Nixon. I've risked it by going out alone at night. This happened to be the night that her killer was back in his hometown for a night and at the same store where she went. He saw her and wanted her and had the gun to make her get in the car. I can't help thinking about this one a lot. If I had been 16 and walking home and some guy pulled up with a gun, I would have probably gotten in the car, too, hoping it would save my life to cooperate. And it didn't plus she got raped and tortured at his cabin. Imagining her last hours makes me want to cry. She was so young and seemed really vivacious and like a family girl.

Much forgotten on this forum is the case of 13-year-old Laura Lee Burbank who met a similar fate at the hands of pedophile and murderer David Fisher:

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/David_Fisher

Laura's final hours, the lack of closure between the time between the murder and the discovery of the body, and the years David Fisher spent as a fugitive made this case particularly tragic.

Much forgotten on this forum is the case of 13-year-old Laura Lee Burbank who met a similar fate at the hands of pedophile and murderer David Fisher:

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/David_Fisher

Laura's final hours, the lack of closure between the time between the murder and the discovery of the body, and the years David Fisher spent as a fugitive made this case particularly tragic.

I definitely haven't forgotten this one. This was a guy she'd grown to trust and view as a good role model. Animal lover, charming, friendly. It had to be sheer panic and terror to have him lure her in and attack her.

Wasn't David Fisher released after an obscene amount of time, too? That always made my blood boil! Especially since he was considered a suspect in other cases of missing children!

I have quite a few to name.

1. The case about the seals that someone was feeding them fish with explosives. As an animal lover, I think ppl who harm animals deserve to burn in hell.

2. The Judge from Andolina Gonzales(I think that was her name). I know there was a story about the Judge and his past but there was still no call for what Andolina did. Stealing from him (a blind man) and leaving him with nothing. And to make matters worse, since he died they couldnt throw her sorry a*s in jail

3.Jaspar, the man found in a trunk on the side of the road. Cases that involve elderly abuse really get to me since I experienced it first hand with my grandfather and the nursing home he was in.

4.Cynthia Anderson-It's just spooky how she vanished. I always thought it was weird how the lawyers went straight to her romance novel & mentioned it was left on a pg that had a violent scene.

5.Wendy Camp- Dear God even Stevie Wonder could see the Noe family was guilty!!!!!

I definitely haven't forgotten this one. This was a guy she'd grown to trust and view as a good role model. Animal lover, charming, friendly. It had to be sheer panic and terror to have him lure her in and attack her.

Wasn't David Fisher released after an obscene amount of time, too? That always made my blood boil! Especially since he was considered a suspect in other cases of missing children!


He killed/raped a young girl and was sent to a minimum security prison... def a WTF moment!

I definitely haven't forgotten this one. This was a guy she'd grown to trust and view as a good role model. Animal lover, charming, friendly. It had to be sheer panic and terror to have him lure her in and attack her.

Wasn't David Fisher released after an obscene amount of time, too? That always made my blood boil! Especially since he was considered a suspect in other cases of missing children!

He was only sentenced to 20 years in jail for manslaughter and would have been released a year after he was caught in Canada had it not been for his escape. Since then, I am unsure what happened to him after he was extradited to the United States and sent to a medium security prison in Washington.

He killed/raped a young girl and was sent to a minimum security prison... def a WTF moment!
This is a case that should be cited for an argument to NOT put violent offenders and dangers to society in minimum security prisons.

I don't remember names but its the case of the dad who kills his son and his friend. That was just a sad case. The kid was sick (think he had cystic fibrosis) and had made this lady friend who he liked but she just wanted to be friend and he called her to give her a ride to his dad house. He was just the scum of the earth that guy and ended up killing both of them. That case was just so sad and I especially feel bad for the son and how it's not only bad that your dad kills you but that you cause the death of your friend who you also have feeling for. I hope the dad rots.
This one REALLY gets to me. William Fisher (sorry if the spelling is off) has to be on of the most vile criminals profiled on UM. The poor girl was in the wrong place at the wrong time all because of a nice deed. The poor son was terribly ill and trying to get financial support from a neglectful father. It's bad enough that the guy shoots his son multiple times, but the fact that he stabbed a young girl he didn't even know makes it all the worse. I seriously hope something has befallen this loser and that he's not enjoying life on the run. I don't usually wish ill things on people, but for him I would make an exception.

There are two episodes that still stick out in my mind.

The first was of a girl who was kidnapped and escaped. Witnesses saw her walking down the road with clothes that were way too big for her (possibly snatched from a clothesline). Then she was never seen or heard from again (to my knowledge). Was there ever an update? Does anybody else recall this one?

I can't believe I'm bumping a post from over nine years ago, but I was going through this thread, and while I usually know most UM cases, I can't seem to remember this one. Does anyone know which case this happens to be? I'm genuinely curious (By the way, I'm really glad to be back on the forum! I missed coming on here)

That one doesn't sound familiar. I wonder how anyone could know that the girl was kidnapped and escaped just because they happened to see her walking down the road wearing clothes that were too big.

The woman in the case linked below was seen walking down the street (don't know the the state of her clothing) and no one could ever figure out where she came from. IIRC, she was given medical attention, was thought to be deaf (but they found out she wasn't), and said her baby had been taken from her against her will. She eventually left without being identified and she hasn't been seen in 20 years.

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Lucy

I can't believe I'm bumping a post from over nine years ago, but I was going through this thread, and while I usually know most UM cases, I can't seem to remember this one. Does anyone know which case this happens to be? I'm genuinely curious (By the way, I'm really glad to be back on the forum! I missed coming on here)

That's Wanda Jean Mays. Unfortunately that girl wasn't really her and her remains were found about twenty years after she disappeared. The girl in question was seen walking down the street but she hadn't been kidnapped as far as anyone can tell. She was just walking down the street and appeared to be wearing clothes too large and looked like Wanda.


http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Wanda_Jean_Mays

Right off the top of my head the ones that still haunt me the most are:
1. Angela Hammond
2. Lisa Ziegert
3. Cindy James
4. Amy Billig
5. Amy Bradley
6. Anthonette Cayedito
7. Danny Casolaro
8. Charles Morgen

The Sharon/Michael Anthony Hughes case. What can I say about that piece of work, Franklin Delano Floyd, that hasn't already been said except to say that he's on my list of people for whom I hope there is a Hell just so I can watch them burn in it, and before you say anything, that list is a very short list.

For those of you who have only seen the segment, read the book "A Beautiful Child." UM didn't have enough air time to cover the full magnitude of Floyd's :mad: Sorry but I couldn't find any sufficient words to describe this guy.

I say Nyleen Kay Marshall's case, considering I had an eerie dream about it a year ago.

I say Nyleen Kay Marshall's case, considering I had an eerie dream about it a year ago.

What happened in the dream?

Missing person cases are the ones that really get to me. Especially the ones where there's pretty much next to no evidence of where the person went or how they disappeared. The earth just seems to open up and swallow them whole. Cases like George Owens or Sneha Philip just really interest me. I have a burning passion in wanting to know just what the hell happened to them. :crazy: