hello again i was jus thinking with friends and possably frasier going off the air soon has there ever been a final ep that was hyped so much and for so long that even if you loved the show you wished all the promos would go away in my case i think the most overhyped final ep. was mash i loved the show but the hype leading up to the last ep drove me nuts.. was there any ep like that for yo

The final episode of Cheers (or, as I like to call it, Bronx Cheers :D ) was overhyped to me. Not only did I find the show boring during its run, it drew all the attention away from the finale of what I found to be a much better show, The Wonder Years! :mad: On top of that, the finale of TWY was not aired during sweeps week! :angryfire

The promos for the final episode of Seinfeld were much ado about...nothing! (pun intended) It was like waiting for a sneeze that never happened.

Originally posted by James
The final episode of Cheers (or, as I like to call it, Bronx Cheers :D ) was overhyped to me. Not only did I find the show boring during its run, it drew all the attention away from the finale of what I found to be a much better show, The Wonder Years! :mad: On top of that, the finale of TWY was not aired during sweeps week! :angryfire

You can't blame "Cheers" for ABC not putting TWY in sweeps week. People watched the "Cheers" finale more because that show was on for a much longer run than TWY. How do you think KNOTS LANDING fans felt when their show went off after 14 years but was still beaten out by "Cheers"?

Originally posted by JT
You can't blame "Cheers" for ABC not putting TWY in sweeps week.

IMHO the finale of Cheers was far more responsible for the publicity, or lack thereof, of what passed as TWY's finale than the fact that ABC didn't air it during sweeps week in May 1993. I put the sweeps tidbit up there because it made TWY's cancellation all the worse.

Oh, and don't get me started on how a lot of things were left unresolved after TWY was canceled. :(

I saw the clip from "The Wonder Years" series finale as part of ABC's 50th Anniversary back in April.

Originally posted by Riff
"The Wonder Years" finale did air during sweeps month. What's the problem?

I had always thought network sweeps lasted one week instead of one month. I must have been mistaken! :eek: (I believe I read somewhere that that the week of May 16-22, 1993, was designated Sweeps Week for that month; TWY's finale aired May 12.)

:cheers:

I thought the final episode of Cheers deserved all of that attention. :cheers:

plus when it came to ratings, awards, and script quality "the Wonder Years" doesn't compare to Cheers. Although the Wonder Years is a great show as well.

Originally posted by TVgen62
The promos for the final episode of Seinfeld were much ado about...nothing! (pun intended) It was like waiting for a sneeze that never happened.

:yeahthat

Found that last episode pretty disappointing.

"MASH"

"Cheers"

Cheers

Friends.... WAY overhyped.
And from what Ive heard.... this isnt even a full season (only something like 16 episodes)

Frasier.... UNDERhyped. There's been nothing for this. And maybe its better that way. Go out small.... but with a bang.

I remember when the final episode of MASH aired and my teachers in school talking about it. I for one was glad when it ended. I never did care for that show. Even now that I'm an adult I've tried watching it and it still doesn't interest me.

It wasn't ABC"s fault. I remember ABC promoted the hell out of the final Wonder Years episode. They also made damn sure to schedule it more than a week before the Cheers finale to prevent overshadowing. The awful truth is that viewer interest in the phenomenon known as The Wonder Years had plummeted quite dramatically in the final two seasons.

Cheers, on the other hand, was still high in the ratings. On top of that, it had been on more than twice as long as The Wonder Years, and was just a more legendary series. That's why the final episode was such a big deal.

yea, that final "MASH" ep. was WAAAAY overhyped.

Originally posted by AKA
I remember ABC promoted the hell out of the final Wonder Years episode.

That's news to me. Here in southwestern Ohio the first I heard of this show being canceled was in the college newspaper, in late April 1993. I saw absolutely nothing in the dailies, which had announced the finale of Cheers in March of that same year and turned it into a major event, leaving The Wonder Years in the dust. :crying:

Definetly SEINFIELD. The episode was horrible and the hype was insane, and poor Murphy Brown just went out with a big ole thud, no one even noticed her exit from TV.

Also, The Nanny and Cybill went off without much fanfare...

also Mad About You was intensely hyped for almost a month before it aired and the episode was just HORRIBLE.... It was the worst episode of a great series.

Cybill got cancelled, which explains the lack of hype.

Originally posted by db108108
Cybill got cancelled, which explains the lack of hype.


Actually Cybill DID have a FINAL EPISODE.... it just didn't get much hype.. which is to bad since CYBILL was one of CBS's HIGHEST-RATED SHOWS IN THE 1990's and was ACTUALLY TIED with The Nanny as CBS's highest rated comedy in its final season... Cybill was canceled for NO REASON.

I found the final ep of MASH to be disjointed and awkward.

I also didn't care for the final ep of Cheers.

And Seinfeld.....don't even get me started on that lousy one! When it comes on in syndication, I watch something else!

Originally posted by James
That's news to me. Here in southwestern Ohio the first I heard of this show being canceled was in the college newspaper, in late April 1993. I saw absolutely nothing in the dailies, which had announced the finale of Cheers in March of that same year and turned it into a major event, leaving The Wonder Years in the dust. :crying:

It was announced in January, 1993 that the then-current Cheers season would be the show's last. This was a decision made by Ted Danson and the cast and crew of Cheers. The Wonder Years, on the other hand, was cancelled by ABC. "Independence Day"/"Summer" wasn't supposed to be the final episode upon writing/filming. The end narration was tacked on when everyone found out they weren't coming back. I didn't find out that The Wonder Years was ending until April, 1993. I do remember seeing a lot of commercials around late April/early May on ABC promoting the final episode, though.

Originally posted by AKA
It was announced in January, 1993 that the then-current Cheers season would be the show's last.

Sorry, I was kind of fuzzy as to when it was announced for sure that Cheers was going off the air, considering how many times Friends has said in the past that the current season would be its last, only to backtrack and renew for another season.

i have a finale episode commercial from 1993 for wonder years with abc promoting it.. it was almost a minute long, and it showed them growing up and it was somethin like "stay tuned to see how it all ends, kevnin and winnie.. blah blah" i just realized i had this commercial because i was puttin old full house themes online for the other forum.

I LOVE THE WONDER YEARS> LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT. i havent watched it in about 3 years, and you know what? I can still almost recit every episode line by line.. sad right? LoL

for the wy not knowing it was ending, they did tac up I feel my FAVORITE last episode. the narration in the end, although VERY sad, was amazing if they threw it together. The things that older kevin says still touches my heart. aw i think im gunna go watch the DVD of it now ... lol

Originally posted by AKA
It wasn't ABC"s fault. I remember ABC promoted the hell out of the final Wonder Years episode. They also made damn sure to schedule it more than a week before the Cheers finale to prevent overshadowing. The awful truth is that viewer interest in the phenomenon known as The Wonder Years had plummeted quite dramatically in the final two seasons.

Cheers, on the other hand, was still high in the ratings. On top of that, it had been on more than twice as long as The Wonder Years, and was just a more legendary series. That's why the final episode was such a big deal.

exactly, it's all about ratings ratings ratings. Not what people consider the quality of the series. For example, Friends ending IS consideried a bigger deal than Frasier ending. Is it because Friends is a better series? (I personally do prefer Friends to Frasier though) No, it's because Friends is still a top 5 performer in the ratings, while Frasier's dipped into the 30's and 40's, even tho at one time it was the #3 series on tv. It was the same way when Cheers and Wonder Years ended at the same time. Cheers was still a top 10 performer in the 92-93 season, Wonder Years had fallen out of the top 50 in the ratings (while it was a top 10 performer a few years earlier). Whether you prefer Cheers or Wonder Years is your own personal opinion, but ratings dictate who gets the more hype.

Another Example. My all time favorite series Buffy The Vampire Slayer ended it's 7 year run last May... for me and Buffy fanatics everywhere, it was a huge blow and was THE event of the 2002-2003 season, but however, American Idol was the hottest show at the same time, and while Buffy fans will tell you which "ending" was more important to us. But media was so fixated over Clay and Ruben being in the American Idol top 2 finalists that week, that they didn't give ANY due respect to Buffy (or to Dawson's Creek for that matter, which also ended that season). Most critics will tell you they preferred Buffy, but AI was the show of the moment, while Buffy was seen as a show in decline, so AI got 90% of the "tv finale" coverage that week, while Buffy and Dawson's Creek had to fight for what was left of that remaining 10%. Same difference as Cheers/Wonder Years.

Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
exactly, it's all about ratings ratings ratings.

Didn't Jesse on NBC a few years back have high ratings and suddenly up and leave?

Originally posted by James
Didn't Jesse on NBC a few years back have high ratings and suddenly up and leave?

NBC pulled it because even tho it had reasonable ratings, it wasn't the type of ratings NBC "demanded" on Thursday nights. They've axed quite a few shows in the past who registered excellent ratings, but because it wasn't on par with Friends and ER, NBC just axes, instead of just moving it to another night (they've also done it to Stark Raving Mad, Union Square, Cursed/Weber Show, Inside Schwartz and most recently Coupling).

Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
NBC pulled it because even tho it had reasonable ratings, it wasn't the type of ratings NBC "demanded" on Thursday nights. They've axed quite a few shows in the past who registered excellent ratings, but because it wasn't on par with Friends and ER, NBC just axes, instead of just moving it to another night (they've also done it to Stark Raving Mad, Union Square, Cursed/Weber Show, Inside Schwartz and most recently Coupling).

I would add "Something So Right" to that list. It was a decent ratings winner, but for some reason got AXED by NBC... ABC picked it up a year later, and changed the focus of the show and it just didn't work.

They also did it to the Drama "Boomtown" this year....

Originally posted by AKA
They also made darn sure to schedule it (The Wonder Years) more than a week before the Cheers finale to prevent overshadowing.

What would have made a LOT more sense is ABC airing the "finale" of The Wonder Years on May 26, 1993, six days after Cheers finally said goodbye. The Cheers hype would have been gone, so the media could become abuzz about TWY. When TWY's "finale" aired 5/12/93 the Cheers frenzy was still going.

Oh, wait, that wouldn't work. Six days is not enough to devote a huge continuing story about the end of TWY. The finale could have aired the following year (with another season's worth of episodes, to boot!) since there was no show in 1994 that ended with such a buzz as Cheers did the year before. With Kevin and the gang graduating high school there could be (or should I say "could have been" :crying: ?) a HUGE event made by ABC--and the other media. I wouldn't be surprised if it would reach #1 in the Nielsens given such attention. :cool:

Hi all
It's such a shame that some of you couldn't appreciate the significance of the February 1983 departure of the single greatest television series since the beginning of mankind -- "M*A*S*H", with it's OUTSTANDING two-hour finale.

Those of us with a sense of humor, a heart, any taste at all, and at least a smattering of intelligence really felt as though we'd lost a part of us when that show ended. So, I guess it's just as well for you that you're not one of us . . . or you'd have felt loss, too.

I think it's a testament to what a superior quality show "The Wonder Years" was that a regular old season-ender could function as the series finale. As for its not receiving the attention it deserved, it's TV tradition, I guess: ABC has, for years, not known when they've had a good thing.

By the way, funky-rat, you're not the first person I've ever seen/heard express disappointment in the final episodes of "Cheers" and "Seinfeld." However, I suspect that you, like the rest of those people, would be unable to provide a satisfactory answer to the question, "What was wrong with it?" And, like the rest of those people, chances are, if your life depended on it -- if someone held a gun to your head and said they'd kill you if you didn't -- you would not be able to write a better show than either one of them.



Later,
Art

The Seinfeld episode wasn't that bad. It wasn't as much about laughs, as it was about wrapping up the series. It wasn't for casual viewers of the show, because it had sooo many in-jokes, but that made it brilliant.

Originally posted by nimrod_86
The Seinfeld episode wasn't that bad. It wasn't as much about laughs, as it was about wrapping up the series. It wasn't for casual viewers of the show, because it had sooo many in-jokes, but that made it brilliant.

Whether it was good, bad or somewhere in-between, the finale didn't seem to live up to the expectation. It's difficult to judge the Seinfeld final episode on its own merit when incessant hype pumps up audience expections so high.

TVgen62 & co.,
One of the best things about the "Seinfeld" finale, for me at least, was the return of so many memorable past guests.




Later,
Art

I recently saw a commercial on Fox News for the final season of The Shield on the FX network, and I couldn't help but think of this thread, even though it's over four years old!

its good to see another one of my old threads again under my first sn add the sopranos to the list the final show was very overhyped and even though i never cared for the show i felt sorry for all the fans who suffered such a huge letdown

Anyone know what the hype factor was for the finale of Dallas? Or how disappointed people were or weren't over that ending?

I thought the last episode of Seinfeld was brilliant in that the last line spoken on the show was just like the first line ever spoken. I didn't even realize it until I watched the first episode for the first time.

Here's the original first line from "Good News, Bad News" (Episode 1):

JERRY: Seems to me, that button is in the worst possible spot. [talking about George's shirt] The second button literally makes or breaks the shirt, look at it: it's too high! It's in no-man's-land, you look like you live with your mother.

And here's the line from the "Finale":

Jerry: See now, to me, that button is in the worst possible spot.

George: Really?

Jerry: Oh yeah. The second button is the key button. It literally makes or breaks the shirt. Look at it, it's

too high, it's in no-man's land.

George: Haven't we had this conversation before?

Jerry: You think?

George: I think we have.

Andrea

PS: I still remember having a lump in my throat, watching the camera move away from Jerry, George, Elaine and Kramer in the cell... knowing there would be no more "Seinfeld".:(

It's time to fire up this thread again with the end of Two and a Half Men finally in sight!

Anyone know what the hype factor was for the finale of Dallas? Or how disappointed people were or weren't over that ending?


I think by that point people were basically over the show. It's ratings had dwindled pretty low and people didn't care anymore... I'm sure there was some hype, but not as much as when it was at its height of popularity.

It's time to fire up this thread again with the end of Two and a Half Men finally in sight!its a thread that I made under my old screen name thanks for bringing it back I have not seen it in years

I think by that point people were basically over the show. It's ratings had dwindled pretty low and people didn't care anymore... I'm sure there was some hype, but not as much as when it was at its height of popularity.I remember when dallas ended it you have it about right regaurding the hype factor that was a little hype but nowhere near the frenzy of mash or seinfeld

Im too young to remember I only know from past interviews about the M*A*S*H finale, yeah looking back it was way overhyped and the episode ran for like 90 minutes? Jesus Christ!

The finale for Three's Comany wasnt hyped as much, I think sitcoms were on their deathbed that nobody blinked an eyelash when it finished.

Seinfeld, way overhyped I think in my case I had just started watching reruns that all the recurring guest stars had me confused.

I'm going to say the finale of How I Met Your Mother. After waiting for 8 years just to find out who the mother is, and then suddenly killing her off in the last episode, everything that happened from that point on was extremely disappointing and not worth the anticipation that had been building up at the beginning of the season. It may not be the most overhyped finale in history, but it was promoted heavily enough that you expected a much better ending. Instead it may have produced the biggest letdown.

Hi all
It's such a shame that some of you couldn't appreciate the significance of the February 1983 departure of the single greatest television series since the beginning of mankind -- "M*A*S*H", with it's OUTSTANDING two-hour finale.

Those of us with a sense of humor, a heart, any taste at all, and at least a smattering of intelligence really felt as though we'd lost a part of us when that show ended. So, I guess it's just as well for you that you're not one of us . . . or you'd have felt loss, too.

I think it's a testament to what a superior quality show "The Wonder Years" was that a regular old season-ender could function as the series finale. As for its not receiving the attention it deserved, it's TV tradition, I guess: ABC has, for years, not known when they've had a good thing.

By the way, funky-rat, you're not the first person I've ever seen/heard express disappointment in the final episodes of "Cheers" and "Seinfeld." However, I suspect that you, like the rest of those people, would be unable to provide a satisfactory answer to the question, "What was wrong with it?" And, like the rest of those people, chances are, if your life depended on it -- if someone held a gun to your head and said they'd kill you if you didn't -- you would not be able to write a better show than either one of them.



Later,
Art

I never saw this - the e-mail I had attached to this website doesn't exist anymore. At any rate, I can give you answers, but whether they'd "satisfy" you or not is debatable, as your post seems to say that you feel that people who don't agree with you aren't capable of cogent thought.

M*A*S*H: Grew up watching this because my dad liked it. I was 10 when the show went off the air, but I felt I still had a pretty good grip on what was being said on the show (my dad served in Viet-Nam and I heard the stories he and his friends told). I understand they were trying to delve further in to Hawkeye's mental illness, but I found the flashbacks that constantly changed made the show disjointed. I even made a point to re-watch the show (well, the handful of episodes that TV Land aired incessantly over and over) and re-watched the finale as a 40-something, and while I "got" a little more of it, I still didn't care for the way it was presented, and still found it a little disjointed. Not saying anything bad about you for liking it - just wasn't my cup of tea.

Cheers: By the finale, the show that I loved had gone off the rails, and had been off the rails for a season or two. Woody was always portrayed as dumb beyond belief, so to me, he would have never been a city Counselman. I disliked his rich wife, as I found her character annoying. The relationship between Rebecca and the character played by Tom Skerritt was just odd, and her on again/off again with Robin was just plain annoying. Lilith having an affiar never resonated well with me - I didn't think it fit the character. I might have liked it better if they hadn't brought Diane back at all, or if she and Sam finally ended up together (despite it being a cliché). But to me, it was just an odd wrap-up of storylines I hated, and even if it was stereotypical, I would have liked to see Sam have a happier ending other than just "We're closed".


Seinfeld: I was a Seinfeld junkie, and with the show from day one. I turned a lot of people on to the show. I was really looking foward to a fun and smart finale, but found a mess of a show instead, where it just seemed like they tried to cram every single catchphrase and cliche into a neat little package. It didn't work for me. For starters, "The Pilot" had been shelved by NBC when Russel Dalyrimple went off the deep end. I saw zero for them to try to bring it back on the show and my husband and I just went "Huh?" when that part of the plot was introduced. Had it been a 30 minute show, where they simply were caught making fun of the John Pinnette (RIP) character, told they were horrible shallow vapid people, and sent off to jail, I'd have likely liked it much better. Trotting in Mulva, Soup Nazi, The Virgin, Marble Rye Lady, etc, was just unnecessary to me. The crux was that they were actually horrible people and deserved to be punished was fine - it was as if they felt that people wouldn't get it, so they had to dumb it down by explaining it over and over and over....that's what ruined it for me. To make matters even worse, they had aired a one hour retrospective right before the finale, so we had just seen many of the people and incidents replayed in the finale right before it. Overkill.

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