I would love to know more about this case. It is about the young couple in RI who were involved in a road rage incident that ended in the husband, Adam Emery, I think, stabbing the young man in the other car to death but Adam got off in court.

I just saw it for the first time now and missed alot due to hubby chatting. :(

After the trial where Adam got off, it semed that the couple killed themselves but only Elena's skull has been found leading people to think of foul play perhaps.

Does anyone think Adam murdered Elena?

If it was a suicide pact, did he back out and let her jump alone?

I would like to hear from anyone who knows more about this case.
Thanks

AMENDED TO CORRECT NAMES.:stupid:

The case was recently on UM but the husband who did the stabbing did not get off. My undertstanding was that he was convicted and this devastated the couple.
A news video tape showed the couple talking and a hearing impaired woman was asked to read the lips of the couple on the tape.
They were talking about going through with their plans. Their car was later found on the bridge and for a long time no one knew the truth.
The skull eventually was found of the wife but no evidence of suicide of the husband. He probably also committed suicide. I don't think he would have killed his wife and left town. It was some kind of pact they did together.
Their crime was awful. They stabbed an innocent man to death whom they thought had nicked their car during a turn.

Saw that case too tonight. I didn't even know UM did a segment on it - I had first heard about it on Dateline.

I don't mean to gloat to the American UM viewers here but I've been just thrilled with UM this week. Yesterday they showed the I-70 killer segment (which I had never seen up until now - WOW was that second drawing creepy), and on Monday they showed the segment about the Henderson, NV bank robbers (most probably the very first time a sketch has given me trouble sleeping). I almost felt like cheering when the 'update' screen flashed for the latter case. I had no idea the robbers had been nabbed and jailed for five years now. Very reassuring. Anyone else remember that case? Two scenes of it made the intro (after the "SOLVED") later: the two police cars on the chase, and the robbers' car crashing through garbage cans.

Whoops, got off topic here... sorry!

Hi
Do you know if I am spelling the names right for Allan and Elaina?

Also do you know where I can find out any more about this case?

Personally I think they were both awful people but that Allan could well have either killed Elaina or at minimum led her to believe he was going to jump too and then let her jump first and he ran off to a new life.

What a disgusting couple they were and I hope they are both where they belong.

Originally posted by Composite Sketch
Saw that case too tonight. I didn't even know UM did a segment on it - I had first heard about it on Dateline.

I don't mean to gloat to the American UM viewers here but I've been just thrilled with UM this week. Yesterday they showed the I-70 killer segment (which I had never seen up until now - WOW was that second drawing creepy), and on Monday they showed the segment about the Henderson, NV bank robbers (most probably the very first time a sketch has given me trouble sleeping). I almost felt like cheering when the 'update' screen flashed for the latter case. I had no idea the robbers had been nabbed and jailed for five years now. Very reassuring. Anyone else remember that case? Two scenes of it made the intro (after the "SOLVED") later: the two police cars on the chase, and the robbers' car crashing through garbage cans.

Whoops, got off topic here... sorry!

Yeah, we are stuck with UM 1 time a week on Sunday Mornings, I am spreading feedback everywhere on Lifetime wanting the show back more times a week. What channel does UM come on in Canada? I wish if Lifetime doesn't care about the show, they would let another network air it, after all, there is no excuse for all the crap Lifetime airs.

BTW: I have dug out about 15 tapes of Unsolved Mysteries and every night am watching at least one episode. :)

I love UM but I am so disappointed that they don't update when they are running old shows that are now solved. It makes it seem stupid and rather an insult to the original show which was so good about keeping viewers informed. How much would it cost to update in text on a screen even? Just don't act like the unibombr is still out and about...that's sad.

Wouldn't cost much... some of the 95-97 episodes that were solved as Robert Stack was about to die were updated simply by putting text on the screen with a green background. I don't see why they wouldn't do that with other seasons as well. But, if they aren't going to update the Unabomber or ERIC RUDOLPH case(two very high-profile cases) then they certainly won't update other cases...

Originally posted by Brent88
What channel does UM come on in Canada?

It's on the channel Prime, which also shows old sitcoms like All in the Family, M*A*S*H, the Cosby Show and the Golden Girls. Right now they're just showing the Lifetime-produced episodes from 2001 and 2002 but I'm crossing my fingers that when they get done with those they'll go back to the early ones. Prime started showing UM earlier this year (around March or April) once a week on Saturdays, and then started showing them every weeknight at around July. A couple weeks ago they dropped the Friday night airing but UM four days a week is still A-OK with me!

I wish it still aired 4 nights a week here.:crying:

I wish they were making new ones UM. There is so much crime going on. So many crimes are profiled on the net and the internet could assist greatly in finding criminals too. I liked UM allot for many years but I never liked the alien or psychic based stories.
I wish they would revamp the show and get a new host. I loved Robert Stack and perhaps the best tribute they could pay to him would be to keep the show going. I think they need to stick to cutting edge type mysteries....not alien abductions....but I respect that other like those.

Who would you people pick as a new host?

Anyone know why they are NOT going to do this?
Please bear with me as I am new to this site.
I love it so far.

I really really want to find out more about Allan and Elaina Emery.

Well Lametime doesn't care since Robert Stack died. Maybe the Canadian network could make new episodes.

I am not sure though I would watch with a new host. Robert Stack added something to the show that made me love it. I don't watch other crime shows like AMW, so I don't think if a new host came along I could get into the show.

BTW: I should mention if new episodes are to made, LIFETIME has to request them(or whatever network airs it) Cosgrove-Meurer will produce the episodes, but Lifetime has to order the episodes.

I found Keely Shay Smith very boring and flat and a bad match with Mr. Stack. I loved him so. :(

I just hate when they run old shows that have been solved with no update at the end. Makes a farce of the show.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Originally posted by canadianmysterygrl
I found Keely Shay Smith very boring and flat and a bad match with Mr. Stack. I loved him so. :(

I just hate when they run old shows that have been solved with no update at the end. Makes a farce of the show.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I didn't like Kelly Shaye Smith either. I think Stack should have done updates. She just seemed to take something out of the show, that is why I don't particularly like the episodes from 1996(when she was on)

I cannot figure out why they stopped doing the show anyway. They would need a host of Mr Stack's caliber to make it good.

How about Peter Falk? He's already got the trench coat and has a good voice.:idea:

It is hard to find information about Adam and Elena Emery on the web. I did find a website with an article. They let you read the first few paragraphs of it and then you have to subscribe to read the rest. But the first weeks subscription is free, then you can cancel. Its at elibrary.com and then type in their names under search and that should bring you to it. Hope this helps!

I guess it would have helped me to get the names right.

:lol:

My chatty hubby was talking to be all during the show and I missed minor details....liken NAMES, DATES, WHERE THIS TOOK PLACE!!!!

:crazy: :crazy:

Thanks so much. So it is ADAM not Allan???

Anyone who knows MORE about this case....PLEASE TELL ME! Thanks.

Hi
I could not find this article on elibrary. Could you give me more details please?


ALSO DOES ANYONE KNOW THE ORIGINAL EPISODE DATE OF THIS SHOW ON UM?

Thanks.:confused:

October 28, 1994

Thanks alot for the info, Sketch. I really appreciate it.:yourock:

Maybe you can get to the article a different way. I typed in the words "murder Adam Emery" on the Ask Jeeves search engine and the elibrary article is the top one. Just click on it there and it should take you right to the page. Also if you're interested, I have that story on one of my tapes. It would be interesting to know if any trace of Adam has been found.

I feel like a NUT for having the names wrong!!!!:dizzy:

All this time searching UNDER THE WRONG NAME......:cuss: :cuss: :crybaby: :wallbang :explode:

Thanks alot for the tips.
Here is what I found but you have to pay to read more.

FROM elibrary

""""IT WAS 6:53 P.M. ON NOV. 11 WHEN A STATE trooper found the abandoned Toyota Camry in the middle of the Claiborne Pell Bridge in Newport, R.I. The key was in the ignition, the engine was still warm and the parking lights on. Inside, the trooper found the packaging for 80 pounds of strap-on exercise weights, a pile of credit cards, all carefully cut in half, and drivers' licenses belonging to a local couple, Adam and Elena Emery.

Just three hours earlier, Adam Emery, 31, had been convicted of second-degree murder for stabbing a man in an argument.""""

Also I have corrected the names now so maybe that will get a few more replies.
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Originally posted by canadianmysterygrl


Who would you people pick as a new host?


Although I can envision someone from any of the Law & Order shows hosting UM, I don't have a primary ideal choice for a prospective new host. However, I can list some things that would make someone compatible as such.

1) The way I see it, the host of an anti-crime show is best suited for someone over the age 40; that way, there is more sophistication on that person's part.

2) I honestly would not want it to be a big-time movie star or any other overexposed celebrity. They'd be too distracting.

3) I happen to agree that it would have to be someone with the caliber like Robert Stack's to be convincing and effective. I wouldn't want a Robert Stack look-alike or a Robert Stack copycat. Just someone with Stack's caliber, who has the courage to be tough on criminals (just like Robert Stack evidently was).

4) It would also be wise to go with someone who has never previously hosted any established anti-crime/true crime series. That way, it would provide the show a much fresher (re)start.

One is entitled to disagree with me on any of these ideas, and I will respect that. However, I am firm about them.

Thanks for asking. :)

Don't you think Peter Falk would be any good?


:boxing: :smash:

How about that fellow from the original Law and Order.....
Chris Noth?:eyes: He is so good looking and serious:whistle: ....like Robert Stack......very controlled.:loveya:

PS anyone else love the little smilies icons here?:biglove:

anyone know anymore on this old case yet? i am still looking...........................

Originally posted by canadianmysterygrl
anyone know anymore on this old case yet? i am still looking...........................

Nothing new.

I'll settle for something OLD even. I can't find anything on the internet about this case.:D

Originally posted by canadianmysterygrl
Don't you think Peter Falk would be any good?


I can only say this: In general, I think Peter Falk would look good as an anti-crime show host, but only if he were the original host. What I mean is that if a famous host were to have a successor, it would make better sense to have the successor to be someone who is lesser known.

To change the subject to one related to the Adam Emery thread, I should point out that my sister was classmates with the actor who played Adam Emery. His name is Eddie Rutkowski. He grew up in Arlington, MA (where I live). He graduated from Arlington High School in 1985.

Since my sister knew him, she had him over at our house on a few occasions. But I was about 12 years old, and any memories I might have had about him are extremely vague. I didn't know him too well. Nor did I know him by name.

Try contacting the Providence Journal & Warwick Beacon, two local papers in that area. I lived in R.I. when that crime took place. UM did a great job with that episode. Hope this helps.

I believe Adam convinced Elena to help him escape by jumping off the bridge to throw police off his trail. I do not think Adam Emery is dead.

Yes I wonder about that.I also wonder if he killed her and threw her body in the river.
either that,or the other person WAS adam with her,and,as someone said before,the coroner miscalculated the height of the bones.if it wasn't adam,I can't imagine who it would be.

Yes I wonder about that.I also wonder if he killed her and threw her body in the river.
either that,or the other person WAS adam with her,and,as someone said before,the coroner miscalculated the height of the bones.if it wasn't adam,I can't imagine who it would be.

Yes this case is baffling as to what happened to Adam. They did certainly come across as self absorbed 'yuppies' in the segment but by all account they did seem very devoted to each other so its hard to imagine him killing her and then taking off. I do think the bones that were recovered that they said were too short to be Adam need to be re-examined. In this day and age they may even be able to get some dna from them and definitely match or exclude them as Adam's.

This is one of the most enraging cases on UM for me. I would really like to know the fate of Adam Emery, particularly because the thought of him walking the streets is a disturbing prospect. I think he's probably in the water where his wife was found, but it would be great to have actual confirmation.

I believe they jumped and he somehow, 1 wasn't found, 2 the bone height was miscalculated and he was there..

I believe they jumped and he somehow, 1 wasn't found, 2 the bone height was miscalculated and he was there..

That's a good point I hadn't thought of about the bone height.

In any event, I always felt that they committed suicide together and Adam's body, for whatever reason, was missed by the search and rescue. Or, as you alluded to, the unidentified bones found might actually be his.

I think I've said before on here, and it's a controversial POV, but I think Adam Emery snapped in the heat of the moment and his killing of Jason Bass was an impulsive "crime of passion" type scenario that could have probably been avoided if Emery just took a minute to calm down and realize the consequences of his actions.

To throw his wife from the bridge or otherwise entice her to "jump first" knowing that he would not do so himself, the guy would have to be one cold SOB. Not impossible, especially given what happened with Jason Bass. Yet, considering that Elena was his wife, and that there was no other known history of violence that I'm aware of, and going by the known facts, the double suicide just always felt right to me.

He's profiled over on the FBI's website, and they have no sightings of him since 1993. He jumped with his wife, IMO. He had far more trouble waiting for him had he not jumped. He could have been captured, tacked on additional charges (possibly even the murder of Elena), and faced even more severe jail time. It just wouldn't make sense for him not to jump.

That's a good point I hadn't thought of about the bone height.

In any event, I always felt that they committed suicide together and Adam's body, for whatever reason, was missed by the search and rescue. Or, as you alluded to, the unidentified bones found might actually be his.

I think I've said before on here, and it's a controversial POV, but I think Adam Emery snapped in the heat of the moment and his killing of Jason Bass was an impulsive "crime of passion" type scenario that could have probably been avoided if Emery just took a minute to calm down and realize the consequences of his actions.

To throw his wife from the bridge or otherwise entice her to "jump first" knowing that he would not do so himself, the guy would have to be one cold SOB. Not impossible, especially given what happened with Jason Bass. Yet, considering that Elena was his wife, and that there was no other known history of violence that I'm aware of, and going by the known facts, the double suicide just always felt right to me.

I agree wholeheartedly on all points. Without absolving Adam Emery of what he did, the man was not a cold-blooded calculated killer. If anything this case much like the case of Richard Church proves how one snap decision can ruin many lives. I'm almost positive that Adam Emery died alongside his wife Elena. It was obviously a pact they made, for Adam never to spend a day behind bars and for them not having to be separated from one another even in death. The only thing I question is the fact that they were so calculated in the events that preceded the suicide, going shopping together, having a last meal together and things of that nature. Although that could've all been part of the process as well and maybe attaching too much weight to those sorts of things is foolish.

By the way and not to make light of a serious situation by any means, I've been to that chowder house that the Emery's frequented the night of the hit and run/homicide. They have homemade doughnuts that are in a word: incredible.

I re-watched this case the other day. I always just assumed it was a suicide pact and they didn't locate Adam's body.

But when re-watching it ( I believe it was a ferina episode.) I remember they said that Adam and Elena went out to a fast food restaurant before they were seen on the bridge. Now, this may sound silly but if I were going to make a suicide pact with someone, my last meal wouldn't be from a fast food joint.

Now, I am thinking maybe they were planning on just making it look like a suicide. Perhaps they jumped, hoping they would be able to survive the water, swimming to shore to make a new life for themselves. Maybe Elena accidentally drowned or died on impact and Adam survived swimming away? I don't know enough details to remember if anyone looked at this possibility.

I re-watched this case the other day. I always just assumed it was a suicide pact and they didn't locate Adam's body.

But when re-watching it ( I believe it was a ferina episode.) I remember they said that Adam and Elena went out to a fast food restaurant before they were seen on the bridge. Now, this may sound silly but if I were going to make a suicide pact with someone, my last meal wouldn't be from a fast food joint.

Now, I am thinking maybe they were planning on just making it look like a suicide. Perhaps they jumped, hoping they would be able to survive the water, swimming to shore to make a new life for themselves. Maybe Elena accidentally drowned or died on impact and Adam survived swimming away? I don't know enough details to remember if anyone looked at this possibility.

If they really were wearing the dive weights, tho, there's no way they could have survived to swim to shore. Maybe they threw the dive weights in and then jumped hoping to make it to shore.

My opinion is that they most likely both jumped and only one has been partially recovered, but I think it is very weird that they were haggling over the price of the dive weights and had their last meal at a fast food restaurant.

If I were planning to commit suicide, I don't think food would be on my mind at all and I definitely know I wouldn't be complaining about being overcharged for the item I was going to use to take myself out with. Who cares how much it costs? Weird.

Unless Adam and Elaina figured that once their estate was settled, more money would go to their heirs if the credit card bill was cheaper, but sheesh, what's a few bucks, it's not like they were arguing over something that cost thousands of dollars. He was probably just a control freak or so self important that he wanted what he wanted on his terms, even until the end.

I re-watched this case the other day. I always just assumed it was a suicide pact and they didn't locate Adam's body.

But when re-watching it ( I believe it was a ferina episode.) I remember they said that Adam and Elena went out to a fast food restaurant before they were seen on the bridge. Now, this may sound silly but if I were going to make a suicide pact with someone, my last meal wouldn't be from a fast food joint.

Now, I am thinking maybe they were planning on just making it look like a suicide. Perhaps they jumped, hoping they would be able to survive the water, swimming to shore to make a new life for themselves. Maybe Elena accidentally drowned or died on impact and Adam survived swimming away? I don't know enough details to remember if anyone looked at this possibility.

I've always kind of thought this might have been a faked suicide attempt a la Robert Carrado. I think I'm more open to the possibility that Adam pushed Elena from the bridge than most seem to be. I think if he was desperate enough to want to avoid prison at all costs, and violent enough to brutally murder someone over something as ridiculous as the reason he killed Jason Bass, I definitely think he could be capable of using his wife in this awful manner to cover his tracks.

If they really were wearing the dive weights, tho, there's no way they could have survived to swim to shore. Maybe they threw the dive weights in and then jumped hoping to make it to shore.

My opinion is that they most likely both jumped and only one has been partially recovered, but I think it is very weird that they were haggling over the price of the dive weights and had their last meal at a fast food restaurant.

If I were planning to commit suicide, I don't think food would be on my mind at all and I definitely know I wouldn't be complaining about being overcharged for the item I was going to use to take myself out with. Who cares how much it costs? Weird.

Unless Adam and Elaina figured that once their estate was settled, more money would go to their heirs if the credit card bill was cheaper, but sheesh, what's a few bucks, it's not like they were arguing over something that cost thousands of dollars. He was probably just a control freak or so self important that he wanted what he wanted on his terms, even until the end.


Do you happen to know if they ever found the weights? I don't recall if they ever found them. I assumed they bought them for show for the media, to make everyone think they were committing suicide. Then after they bought them got rid of them, like you said, they wouldn't be able to swim with the weights. Perhaps they just tossed them either in the water before jumping, but wouldn't investigators search the bottom of the river? Surely if they tossed the weights in the river, they'd be found.Perhaps they tossed them in the dumpster at that fast food restaurant? It's a long shot but just a thought.

I really like this case. I find it strangely romantic that they decided to jump together. How loyal must a wife be to stick with her husband after this awful crime.

I do love all these theories. My least favorite is that he pushed his wife off to make it appear they both died together. In the videos on UM they looked so loved up together I just cant see him turning on her like that.

I really hope that the one where they throw the weights off the bridge then jump in hoping to swim to safety, to trick the authorities. Unfortunately it appears that Ellena didnt make it.

To me Adam didnt seem like a too bad of a guy. If he did survive and go on to live a life on the run it is pretty amazing!

Like someone said earlier why would they be so fussed and haggle on the price of food / weights if you were going to kill your self? Maybe they withdrew X amount of funds from their bank to go on the run with and after they cut up they cards they needed to be tight with cash. That would explain it to me pretty perfectly.

I really like this case. I find it strangely romantic that they decided to jump together. How loyal must a wife be to stick with her husband after this awful crime.

As she was allegedly egging Adam on in his homicidal rampage by screaming at him to run Bass down, I'd say they deserved each other.

To me Adam didnt seem like a too bad of a guy.

Adam Emery stabbed an absolutely innocent man to death after terrorizing him, then gave some half-hearted story about the whole thing being in self defense. He showed no remorse for his error, nor for Bass's family.

As she was allegedly egging Adam on in his homicidal rampage by screaming at him to run Bass down, I'd say they deserved each other.

Yep...Elena was the one screaming for Adam to get his knife and go attack the occupants in the car...what a classy, romantic lady. :rolleyes:

Adam Emery stabbed an absolutely innocent man to death after terrorizing him, then gave some half-hearted story about the whole thing being in self defense. He showed no remorse for his error, nor for Bass's family.

While I have no sympathy for Adam Emery whatsoever, I do not think he was an evil person. Obviously, I don't think he intended on killing Jason Bass that night, but then again, he was the one who went for his knife, and he was the one who made the decision to leap onto Jason Bass's car. All he had to do was confront Jason Bass, and see that there was no damage to his car to know for sure that he wasn't the one who hit his car. I blame Elena equally for what happened that night.

While I have no sympathy for Adam Emery whatsoever, I do not think he was an evil person. Obviously, I don't think he intended on killing Jason Bass that night, but then again, he was the one who went for his knife, and he was the one who made the decision to leap onto Jason Bass's car. All he had to do was confront Jason Bass, and see that there was no damage to his car to know for sure that he wasn't the one who hit his car. I blame Elena equally for what happened that night.

Exactly. I can understand being angry at someone you think has sideswiped your car. I can understand you confronting that person in a heated manner. But I cannot understand anger rendering you an irrational, homicidal maniac and THEN not even bothering to feel or at least express any sorrow over the fact that you ended a life, and THEN ON TOP OF THAT lying through your teeth about having to "defend" yourself.

I too blame Elena equally.

It may very well be an actual double suicide but these people are starting to seem not only cold but cocky, not at all sorry for killing an innocent man. I'm thinking he was too cocky and self obsessed to kill himself.

It may very well be an actual double suicide but these people are starting to seem not only cold but cocky, not at all sorry for killing an innocent man. I'm thinking he was too cocky and self obsessed to kill himself.

I tend to think so, too. Notice there was no significant emotion about the whole thing until Adam was convicted in either of those two. In fact, I remember reading in an article once that both the Emerys were actually shocked that Adam was found guilty. It seems they thought they were just that slick. I can't readily see someone apparently believing he's going to get off on a second degree murder charge absolutely scot-free just up and throw in the towel by doing something as drastic as taking his own life. I see that kind of person continuing to play squirrel in an attempt to wriggle out of his circumstances.

On the other hand, the murder of Jason Bass clearly illustrates Adam might have had a problem with impulse control. Sometimes people with similar problems do follow through on suicides, but again, I think I'm with you on it: by all accounts, he seemed awfully focused on self preservation, and appeared absolutely certain he was going to come out of that trial unscathed.

Do we happen to know if Adam was intoxicated or not? I don't remember if the segment saying so or not but I do remember in the reenactment that he was drinking what appeared to be a bottle of beer before he sped of and killed Jason. If so, it may not have been an impulse control problem as much as he was drunk.

Did they have more than one person analyze the conversation, I wonder? Or even previous conversations between the two.

While I have no sympathy for Adam Emery whatsoever, I do not think he was an evil person.

Actually, a person that kills another human being is the very definition of evil 99% of the time. The fact that he killed an innocent person that posed absolutely no harm to him makes him particularly evil. While Elena's actions were atrocious, he was under no obligation to do what she said.

Actually, a person that kills another human being is the very definition of evil 99% of the time. The fact that he killed an innocent person that posed absolutely no harm to him makes him particularly evil. While Elena's actions were atrocious, he was under no obligation to do what she said.

I have to disagree about the 99% number. Wars, self defense, etc. all result in killings that do not make people "evil". I don't think he obviously intended on murdering anyone that night, but in his rage he stabbed Jason Bass. I read an article that says that Adam yelled for a neighbor to get water (after he stabbed him), and didn't flee the scene.

And, as others have stated, if Adam and Elena were inseparable, that makes the thought that they both committed suicide that much more likely, IMO.

I did say 'strangely romantic' its not exactly a love story! Its similar to Bonnie and Clyde are classed as a romantic couple who also killed many innocent people. The fact that Ellena stuck by her husband and died by his side rather than live without him is what I find romantic.

I think he was most likely drunk when he committed the murder and his wife most likely would have been when she was egging him on. Don't get me wrong it is awful what he's done and I feel nothing but sorrow for Jason and his family. Although from the stuff I've read he didn't have any previous convictions? Correct me if I'm wrong here.

I don't think he was an evil guy and the comment that 99% of killers are evil? that's obviously your opinion and clearly not fact!

if he was drunk then he no business behind the wheel of a car.

And pardon me if I don't give Adam an award for asking for water for Jason. *After he stabbed him*

Although from the stuff I've read he didn't have any previous convictions? Correct me if I'm wrong here.

No, you're correct. Adam Emery had no previous convictions prior to this.

I don't think he was an evil guy

I don't think he was evil, either. I don't think the very vast majority of people are so choked by evil that they may qualify as evil themselves. However, the guy clearly had some huge issues that ending up surfacing in the worst possible way. I've never been able to shake the fact that he showed zero remorse for what he did.

if he was drunk then he no business behind the wheel of a car.

And pardon me if I don't give Adam an award for asking for water for Jason. *After he stabbed him*

Yeah. I don't know why dude seems to get a pass for either of those things. Especially in light of the fact that people like unassuming Arnold Archambeau can get behind the wheel of a vehicle inebriated and everyone seems to lose their minds on the board, yet it seems to be presented as some kind of semi-valid excuse for homicidal behavior in Adam Emery's case.

Make no mistake about it: Adam Emery murdered an innocent man. It wasn't a cold blooded killing, IMO. I don't think anyone here is giving any sort of sympathy towards Adam Emery, they just don't think he's an evil guy. Michael Scott Martin gets universal pass from everyone on here for firing a gun towards several people (while intoxicated). Sure no one was hurt, but that was still a pretty stupid thing to do.

Michael Scott Martin gets universal pass from everyone on here for firing a gun towards several people (while intoxicated). Sure no one was hurt, but that was still a pretty stupid thing to do.

The difference is that MSM owned up to the grocery store incident. Adam Emery kept on with a BS self-defense claim when he in fact ran down a fleeing Jason Bass to stab him through the heart until the day he disappeared.

From this archived article http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20107359,00.html:

At his trial, Emery claimed he had been acting in self-defense. "I told them, 'Stop the car or I'm going to stab you,' " he testified. "They didn't heed my warning."

Yeah. It's not self-defense when you've actively jumped onto someone's car and are hanging off the side wielding a knife at the driver.

Relatives of the Emerys even argued Jason was to blame for his own death. "He was trying to have fun with Adam," says Elena's brother, Domenic DiRocco, 26, a nightclub bouncer. "Adam was the real victim."

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For the grieving Bass family, the trauma is only deepened by such attacks. "It hurts so bad," says Jason's brother, Ray Bass, 34, a former security guard who was hospitalized for nervous exhaustion for a month after the murder. "Nobody ever came to our family and said they were sorry."

Sounds like the whole lot was a company of sweethearts.

The difference is that MSM owned up to the grocery store incident. Adam Emery kept on with a BS self-defense claim when he in fact ran down a fleeing Jason Bass to stab him through the heart until the day he disappeared.

Fair enough.

I don't sympathize with anyone but Jason Bass and his friends and family. But I do think both Adam and Elena are dead, both having committed suicide together.

I don't sympathize with anyone but Jason Bass and his friends and family.

I know. I never thought otherwise.

But I do think both Adam and Elena are dead, both having committed suicide together.

I think that's probably what I tend toward myself, although I have to admit I wouldn't be particularly shocked if Adam was coughed up alive somewhere someday.

I think that's probably what I tend toward myself, although I have to admit I wouldn't be particularly shocked if Adam was coughed up alive somewhere someday.

The more I think about it, the more I think Adam Emery was too much of a conceited jerk to remain on the lam. I think, in his mind, he was rightful in his actions (despite the fact that it was brought out that Jason Bass had nothing to do with hitting his car), and that he dare not spend a night in jail (or on the run for that matter) for something he felt he rightfully did. JMO

I always found Adam and Elena Emery to be two of the most objectionable, reprehensible people ever profiled on UM. The fact that Adam had no prior run-ins with the law, quite frankly, doesn't add up to a hill of beans in my book.

To recap, Adam and Elena got extremely outraged and hostile over a minor incident (insurance would have easily paid for the minor damage to their car), decided to take the law into their own hands, threatened the safety of everyone on the road that night due to their erractic behavior and driving, stalked and threatened a car full of innocent people, and killed a completely innocent person. I have no idea why Adam fully expected Jason to pull over, get out of the car and talk to him when he was acting like a homicidal maniac. In contrast, Jason's reaction to flee and avoid any confrontation was the ideal reaction. If Adam and Elena had any brains between them, they would have realized that they were tracking down the wrong people.

And I should point out that Elena chanted "I'm going to kill someone, I'm going to kill someone" after the verdict was read. I really have no idea who she was going to kill, but she was already responsible for the death of an innocent person, and I think she wanted to add another to the list and become a serial killer. IMO, she's as every bit a homicidal maniac as her husband. They came off as rich, elitist snobs and I think they probably justified their actions in their own warped minds. I take a lot of comfort in knowing they're both dead and can't destroy any more lives - the greatest possible outcome in this case. They escaped punishment in life, but found a far greater one 20 years ago.

I don't know anything about the other couple in the Emery car, but I'll throw them in the guilty pile as well. They could have taken steps to prevent what happened, they could have helped Jason and they chose to do absolutely nothing. They'll have to pay the price someday, if they haven't already.

It's a minor detail, but I've always been really curious to know if the unknown motorist who sideswiped Adam's car ever found about all the commotion they indirectly caused by fleeing the scene.

On the one hand, you'd have to feel guilty about an innocent person dying. On the other hand, you'd might feel a bit of relief about not having to deal with an enraged Adam Emery that night. Even if the motorist had done the right thing and pulled over after hitting the car, who knows if Adam's temper still might have caused him to do something stupid?

It's a minor detail, but I've always been really curious to know if the unknown motorist who sideswiped Adam's car ever found about all the commotion they indirectly caused by fleeing the scene.

On the one hand, you'd have to feel guilty about an innocent person dying. On the other hand, you'd might feel a bit of relief about not having to deal with an enraged Adam Emery that night. Even if the motorist had done the right thing and pulled over after hitting the car, who knows if Adam's temper still might have caused him to do something stupid?

Probably, Adam was that much of a coward. The thing about road rage (and this was one of the worst examples of it) is that the person feels big and macho because they're behind the wheel of a car and can use it was a weapon (and even after Adam was out of his car, he still had the knife). I doubt Adam would have had the stones to go at it with someone in hand to hand combat.

It's a minor detail, but I've always been really curious to know if the unknown motorist who sideswiped Adam's car ever found about all the commotion they indirectly caused by fleeing the scene.

On the one hand, you'd have to feel guilty about an innocent person dying. On the other hand, you'd might feel a bit of relief about not having to deal with an enraged Adam Emery that night. Even if the motorist had done the right thing and pulled over after hitting the car, who knows if Adam's temper still might have caused him to do something stupid?

Whoever it was has got to feel awful regardless. Didn't the segment (or maybe it was an article I read) say whoever actually hit his car never came forward?

Whoever it was has got to feel awful regardless. Didn't the segment (or maybe it was an article I read) say whoever actually hit his car never came forward?

Yep, I'm pretty sure the identity of the motorist is still an unsolved-mystery-within-an-unsolved-mystery. For all we know, they may never have even made the connection about what happened.

Probably, Adam was that much of a coward. The thing about road rage (and this was one of the worst examples of it) is that the person feels big and macho because they're behind the wheel of a car and can use it was a weapon (and even after Adam was out of his car, he still had the knife). I doubt Adam would have had the stones to go at it with someone in hand to hand combat.

That makes sense. Remember the David Hurley case? We don't know the exact details of the accident David Hurley was involved in but apparently the other driver was angry enough to shoot him not once or twice, but THREE times, once in the back as he was trying to get away.

That makes sense. Remember the David Hurley case? We don't know the exact details of the accident David Hurley was involved in but apparently the other driver was angry enough to shoot him not once or twice, but THREE times, once in the back as he was trying to get away.

And the person who killed Richard Aderson.

I find it odd that Adam was declared legally dead in 2004...then placed back on the FBI Most Wanted list in 2010. They must have a reason for doing that. Has he been spotted somewhere?

Interesting catch Letter!! I wonder if there has been some evidence found that he's still alive and kicking somewhere.

I find it odd that Adam was declared legally dead in 2004...then placed back on the FBI Most Wanted list in 2010. They must have a reason for doing that. Has he been spotted somewhere?

http://www.rimonthly.com/Blogs/ridaily/April-2010/Adam-Emery-back-in-the-news/ has a comment by Cynthia Borzillo-Bass:

ADAM EMERY IS A LIVE AND WELL ACCORDING TO HIS NEPHEW . QUOTING A CARD THAT WAS MAILED TO ADAM'S FATHER , WHICH IS THE YOUNG MANS GRANDFATHER. HE SAID QUOTE " IM SORRY , AND IM OK . I WON'T BE CONTACTING YOU AGAIN . I WAS SHOCKED TO HEAR THIS AS IT WAS TOLD TO ME BY MY DAUGHTER . MY HUSBAND WAS RAYMOND BASS, THE BROTHER OF JASON BASS THE YOUNG MAN ADAM EMERY MURDERED IN AUG. OF 1990 . I LEFT A VOICE MESSAGE WITH THE A.G. OFFICE I BELEIVE IT WAS THE SUMMER OF 2006 . NO ONE RETURNED MY CALL . I EXPLAINED THAT I NEW OF A PERSON OF INTEREST RELATED TO THE EMERY / BASS MURDER CASE . OUR VOICE GOES UNHEARD . WHERE'S THE JUSTICE FOR JAY ! BUT WE STILL KEEP THE FAITH THAT SOMEDAY WE WILL HAVE ABSOLUTE CLOSURE . A BASS FAMILY MEMBER , CYNTHIA BASS - DENONCOUR

The card could have been a hoax, but it's not a stretch that he could have blamed his wife for his actions and decided to let her end up in the river by herself, while planning his own escape.

The more I think about it, the more I think this conceited jack-hole is still out there. Seriously, if they find him 10 years from now, it wouldn't surprise me.

This played again. I still keep my last yr theory that they are both in the water. Why buy the weights? However, he is a very cocky *******. He could be on an island somewhere. He could have pushed her and had another car....I just don't think so. That whole reinactment....Elena egging him on. I wonder what their friends in the back were thinking??

I think he's dead.

I think he's so indignant and cocky that he'd rather die than spend a day in jail. The answer to the "last meal" of fast food can be explained in a rather simple way: How many of us avoid McDonalds because of the effect it has on our waistlines? If the Emerys were health conscious, as I suspect they were, they wouldn't eat fast food at all...UNLESS it was in a circumstance where there would be no consequences for it.

I apologize if that doesn't make sense. I'm running on about two hours sleep today...

I think he's dead.

I think he's so indignant and cocky that he'd rather die than spend a day in jail. The answer to the "last meal" of fast food can be explained in a rather simple way: How many of us avoid McDonalds because of the effect it has on our waistlines? If the Emerys were health conscious, as I suspect they were, they wouldn't eat fast food at all...UNLESS it was in a circumstance where there would be no consequences for it.

I apologize if that doesn't make sense. I'm running on about two hours sleep today...

I think it would have more to do with the Emery's not wanting to be seen at Burger King, a place more associated with "commoners". They are/were self-absorbed people.

I find it odd that Adam was declared legally dead in 2004...then placed back on the FBI Most Wanted list in 2010. They must have a reason for doing that. Has he been spotted somewhere?

If this was true, then they must have taken him back off.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten

I've always agreed with the crime of passion/heat of the moment/incited act viewpoint. Adam partially a little lubed from the alcohol, furious his car had been damaged and the perpetrator had the "audacity" to drive away, goes into a fit of rage, meanwhile Elena and the other couple are egging him on, feeding into this, the chase tunnel vision/adrenaline kick is an additional element (police officers train against this so they don't over-react in a car chase and beat the suspect to a pulp when they catch him- doesn't always work i.e. the San Bernardino Sheriff's a couple of weeks ago), the heighten fight response on the hood and whammo you got a guy killing an innocent man over the stupidest of reasons. Not only do you have the road rage but you also have the fact that Adam is armed and probably a self-entitled. So I understand "why" he did it, but I don't excuse him.

He no doubt jumped, he doesn't strike me as a Bradford Bishop or John List type, smart enough to avoid capture. I just believe there is something biological about the male body that makes it more prone to sinking to greater depths than the female body whether it be body fat or bone density. This makes the recovery more difficult.

I've always agreed with the crime of passion/heat of the moment/incited act viewpoint. Adam partially a little lubed from the alcohol, furious his car had been damaged and the perpetrator had the "audacity" to drive away, goes into a fit of rage, meanwhile Elena and the other couple are egging him on, feeding into this, the chase tunnel vision/adrenaline kick is an additional element (police officers train against this so they don't over-react in a car chase and beat the suspect to a pulp when they catch him- doesn't always work i.e. the San Bernardino Sheriff's a couple of weeks ago), the heighten fight response on the hood and whammo you got a guy killing an innocent man over the stupidest of reasons. Not only do you have the road rage but you also have the fact that Adam is armed and probably a self-entitled. So I understand "why" he did it, but I don't excuse him.

He no doubt jumped, he doesn't strike me as a Bradford Bishop or John List type, smart enough to avoid capture. I just believe there is something biological about the male body that makes it more prone to sinking to greater depths than the female body whether it be body fat or bone density. This makes the recovery more difficult.

^^^^^^ This. All of it.

If this was true, then they must have taken him back off.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten

I don't think Emery was ever a top ten. I just think the case got some exposure again a few years back and the FBI indicated he was still a fugitive and was wanted.

I don't think Emery was ever a top ten. I just think the case got some exposure again a few years back and the FBI indicated he was still a fugitive and was wanted.

That's what I figured as well.

Pretty interesting to see William Bradford Bishop still on the top ten.

I've always agreed with the crime of passion/heat of the moment/incited act viewpoint. Adam partially a little lubed from the alcohol, furious his car had been damaged and the perpetrator had the "audacity" to drive away, goes into a fit of rage, meanwhile Elena and the other couple are egging him on, feeding into this, the chase tunnel vision/adrenaline kick is an additional element (police officers train against this so they don't over-react in a car chase and beat the suspect to a pulp when they catch him- doesn't always work i.e. the San Bernardino Sheriff's a couple of weeks ago), the heighten fight response on the hood and whammo you got a guy killing an innocent man over the stupidest of reasons. Not only do you have the road rage but you also have the fact that Adam is armed and probably a self-entitled. So I understand "why" he did it, but I don't excuse him.

He no doubt jumped, he doesn't strike me as a Bradford Bishop or John List type, smart enough to avoid capture. I just believe there is something biological about the male body that makes it more prone to sinking to greater depths than the female body whether it be body fat or bone density. This makes the recovery more difficult.


I agree with most of what you said in that he mostly jumped, but the fact that even after the adrenaline rush died down and after he was sobered up and in custody, Adam still didn't express any remorse for killing an innocent man over a dented paintjob...yeah, can't feel a lot of sympathy for the guy.

Here's a new article about the Adam Emery case. The FBI is in the process of making an age progression of him in hopes of catching him. A video is in the link (7 minutes long) and Jason Bass' family is interviewed and talks about the kind of person Jason was and how his murder really affected his family.

http://wpri.com/2016/04/28/after-26-years-murder-victims-family-still-asking-wheres-adam-emery/

Here's a new article about the Adam Emery case. The FBI is in the process of making an age progression of him in hopes of catching him. A video is in the link (7 minutes long) and Jason Bass' family is interviewed and talks about the kind of person Jason was and how his murder really affected his family.

http://wpri.com/2016/04/28/after-26-years-murder-victims-family-still-asking-wheres-adam-emery/

Are you serious? They found Elena's remains in the river. They were spotted together buying weights (to weigh their bodies down when they committed suicide together). Adam is in that river, too, they just haven't found his remains yet.

Are you serious? They found Elena's remains in the river. They were spotted together buying weights (to weigh their bodies down when they committed suicide together). Adam is in that river, too, they just haven't found his remains yet.

that's an interesting point. Since they also bought socks and sweatsuits, I figured they just bought a bunch of athletic equipment. I wish I could believe Adam was in that river, but considering Elena was found so quickly afterward and that Adam would presumably be in the same place, I can't dismiss the possibility he's out there somewhere. I know some people feel strongly he's dead.

I know some people are skeptical of Adam Emery still being alive, but I am one who feels that he is alive and got away with Jason Bass' murder. Adam was described by his peers as neat and intelligent yet narcissistic and perfectionistic. His own family even admitted in an article that Adam was cocky and meticulous underneath a layer of normal behavior. He was obsessed with keeping his Thunderbird pristine, and when it was damaged, it showed his true colors when the situation arose.

I believe Adam was crafty enough to fake his death and flee to Italy or some other country (the FBI believes he could have went to Italy, and that is where Elena was born, ironically). In the episode, it stated that Adam was bothered by the total amount for the athletic socks and weights. Not something one would be worried about if they were going to commit suicide. I believe he backed out of the alleged suicide pact, or planned on not following through with it all along. Elena jumped, or some say, was pushed by Adam into the Narragansett Bay, and we know she is dead as they found her skull in August 1994, but Adam was never found. Could he be in the water too? They would have found him if he was, but there was nothing, and even if his bones are/were in the bay, they were probably eaten by marine life or were carried out into the Atlantic Ocean by the currents.

I know some people are skeptical of Adam Emery still being alive, but I am one who feels that he is alive and got away with Jason Bass' murder. Adam was described by his peers as neat and intelligent yet narcissistic and perfectionistic. His own family even admitted in an article that Adam was cocky and meticulous underneath a layer of normal behavior. He was obsessed with keeping his Thunderbird pristine, and when it was damaged, it showed his true colors when the situation arose.

I believe Adam was crafty enough to fake his death and flee to Italy or some other country (the FBI believes he could have went to Italy, and that is where Elena was born, ironically). In the episode, it stated that Adam was bothered by the total amount for the athletic socks and weights. Not something one would be worried about if they were going to commit suicide. I believe he backed out of the alleged suicide pact, or planned on not following through with it all along. Elena jumped, or some say, was pushed by Adam into the Narragansett Bay, and we know she is dead as they found her skull in August 1994, but Adam was never found. Could he be in the water too? They would have found him if he was, but there was nothing, and even if his bones are/were in the bay, they were probably eaten by marine life or were carried out into the Atlantic Ocean by the currents.

Wouldn't that be ironic if Elena, the one who provoked Adam into murdering Jason, ended up being murdered herself by him?

Whatever the case, I'm glad she's not around anymore.

This case is one of my "favorites" that I'd really like to see resolved.

I'm split. A part of me thinks he jumped to avoid jail time, another part thinks that he fled the country and either pushed his wife or tricked her into jumping into the river...

EDIT: Apparently a year ago, I thought he was dead. Guess I've flipped on that one. :)

Wouldn't that be ironic if Elena, the one who provoked Adam into murdering Jason, ended up being murdered herself by him?

Whatever the case, I'm glad she's not around anymore.

I agree. All these years later, I still feel angry over her blowing a head gasket and getting the poor guy killed. Good riddance.

This case is one of my "favorites" that I'd really like to see resolved.

I'm split. A part of me thinks he jumped to avoid jail time, another part thinks that he fled the country and either pushed his wife or tricked her into jumping into the river...

EDIT: Apparently a year ago, I thought he was dead. Guess I've flipped on that one. :)
I feel the same way. I can totally see him jumping into the water. However, he was seemingly such a narcissist/worried about money that I could see him tricking her into jumping and pretending he would or even pushing her.

I hope one day they find him. I also wonder what would have happened if a random motorist hadn't hit his car that evening. Would Adam Emery have lived a normal life--or would he have snapped and killed someone eventually? My bet is on the latter.

I agree. All these years later, I still feel angry over her blowing a head gasket and getting the poor guy killed. Good riddance.
Rewatching the segment now. I had forgotten that she handed him the knife, too.

So I can't disagree.

Wouldn't that be ironic if Elena, the one who provoked Adam into murdering Jason, ended up being murdered herself by him?

Whatever the case, I'm glad she's not around anymore.

Ugh, Elena did seem God awful.

Reading some of these posts have given me reason to doubt my theory of Adam being in that river, remains still not found. He could very well be alive, I suppose. He just didn't strike me as the sharpest tool in the shed (no pun intended). He struck me as a roided up, provincial, meathead. I don't think he has the capacity to successfully live on the lam for these many years. But I guess dumber people have done so...

@wiseguy182, I love your posts, btw. Just thought I'd let you know. :wave:

@wiseguy182, I love your posts, btw. Just thought I'd let you know. :wave:

Thanks, I appreciate it. :) :wave:

Thanks, I appreciate it. :) :wave:

No prob,,you crack me up! ;) :lol:

I'll hang out at the local Burger King in southwest Miami today and look for Adam Emery.

My chances are exactly equal to the FBI's.

It's mind boggling how dense and wasteful that organization can be. The agents simply don't have proper training in specific areas, or more accurately they don't pursue the type of people who already have the talent and knowledge in those areas. It was obvious from an overview but once I read a couple of related insider books the process was even more primitive than I imagined. But it's the type of sad reality that is apparent all over the place. For example, scouting in the professional sports is at pathetic level and basically nothing changes. The same flaws and misconceptions are passed down from generation to generation, resulting in a connect rate that is far lower than it should be. One NFL scout last week downgraded a top prospect because he supposedly doesn't know how to cook. They find so-called off the field problems and lump them together, baffled toward what to expect, instead of hiring and relying on specialists who can identify what is meaningful and what is not.

I'll hang out at the local Burger King in southwest Miami today and look for Adam Emery.

My chances are exactly equal to the FBI's.

So... you think he's fish food?

I saw this segment yesterday, and towards the end of it Farina made a mention of "credible sources" were the reasoning behind the FBI still looking for Adam Emery to this day. Now I know the Farina episodes are a few years old now, but he's still profiled on the FBI's website. I wonder what the "credible sources" where?

Still think the guy is dead. I read an article years ago which went into detail about how much he adored Elena (she was 4-5 years older than him), and how they never did anything without the other. With the way she egged him on the night of Jason Bass's murder, I could see her being the one who egged him on to jump from the bridge. She was seen doing this in the courtroom shortly after he was convicted. I highly doubt he'd just toss his wife over, or let her jump first and then simply walk away (full of exercise weights) and somehow manage to stay undetected for over twenty years.

I loved this case. Unlike a lot of UM segments I think both theories are plausible and wouldn't be stunned either way.

I also got a big kick out of the reconstruction when Emery is just hanging on the car as the driver tries to get him off like he is the T1000 in terminator 2. I was just waiting for his arms to turn into big knives and then after he kills the victim for him to melt into that chromatic liquid and disappear.

Anyway I think the most likely explanation is he killed himself, it's just the simplest easiest explanation.
It's interesting the FBI don't think this and make me wonder what else they know as you know they like to keep things back.

I loved this case. Unlike a lot of UM segments I think both theories are plausible and wouldn't be stunned either way.

I also got a big kick out of the reconstruction when Emery is just hanging on the car as the driver tries to get him off like he is the T1000 in terminator 2. I was just waiting for his arms to turn into big knives and then after he kills the victim for him to melt into that chromatic liquid and disappear.

Anyway I think the most likely explanation is he killed himself, it's just the simplest easiest explanation.
It's interesting the FBI don't think this and make me wonder what else they know as you know they like to keep things back.

Hello! :wave:

The Emery case is one that has long fascinated me as well. I'm with you-- I always figured he did commit suicide. However, if the FBI has re-opened an investigation, it does make me think there's some activity that just hasn't gone public. You always wonder what it is...

I think the FBI does know something we don't. They seem very intent on finding him, they have appealed via Twitter as recently as January https://twitter.com/FBI/status/815963867792576513.

I am not at all convinced he jumped with his wife. He was completely unremorseful about the murder even when it became clear he'd killed a man who had done nothing to him. It's completely consistent with his personality and past actions to use his wife's suicide as a diversion so he could start a new life.

Also, I think It's utter insanity for a judge to allow a convicted murderer to walk free while they await sentencing.

Also, I think It's utter insanity for a judge to allow a convicted murderer to walk free while they await sentencing.

THAT is the portion of the story that just blows my mind. Times have changed a bit, but typically, if you've been convicted of a serious offense, your butt is going to jail for the sole reason that by nature of the conviction, you're automatically deemed a flight risk.

There's considerations that can be made, but I've never known a judge in my neck of the woods to let someone convicted of murder just "hang out" until their sentencing date...

I am not at all convinced he jumped with his wife. He was completely unremorseful about the murder even when it became clear he'd killed a man who had done nothing to him. It's completely consistent with his personality and past actions to use his wife's suicide as a diversion so he could start a new life.

While I assumed he jumped with her, there are lots of things in his history that make me see where you would think that.

But if he did? Man, that's cold.

THAT is the portion of the story that just blows my mind. Times have changed a bit, but typically, if you've been convicted of a serious offense, your butt is going to jail for the sole reason that by nature of the conviction, you're automatically deemed a flight risk.

There's considerations that can be made, but I've never known a judge in my neck of the woods to let someone convicted of murder just "hang out" until their sentencing date...

Are you an attorney? Or work in that field? From your posts, you seem to have a lot of legal knowledge

Are you an attorney? Or work in that field? From your posts, you seem to have a lot of legal knowledge

Yeah. I'm a prosecutor. Which is why I get so mad at Awsi when he starts talking about crooked prosecutors. :)

I understand, CRicci. In addition to his "All prosecutors are evil and corrupt shtick," I often find myself scratching my head wondering what the heck he's saying because his posts often come across as word salads put together by a random phrase generator. Also, too often I honestly wonder if he doesn't take the opposite side to be contrary. If the general consensus is that Suspect X is guilty, then he must be innocent. If the general consensus is that Suspect X is innocent, then he must be guilty.

apparently they let him go to "get his affairs in order" and it was controversial at the time...saw an article that said the bridge was fairly busy and nobody saw a "couple on the bridge about to jump or anything....

it would take time to get the weights out ,tie them to yourselves, and climbing to get to where you jump off, but if they had a friend and they hopped into their car and drove off,,,that just takes seconds

apparently they let him go to "get his affairs in order" and it was controversial at the time...saw an article that said the bridge was fairly busy and nobody saw a "couple on the bridge about to jump or anything....

it would take time to get the weights out ,tie them to yourselves, and climbing to get to where you jump off, but if they had a friend and they hopped into their car and drove off,,,that just takes seconds

The car was found on the bridge.

Can you imagine the conversation though if they had had a friend drop them off?

-Hey Bob, can you do me a favor?
-Sure, Adam, whatever you need. Sorry about that whole murder conviction thing, that has to suck.
-Well, Elena and I are gonna jump off the Newport Bridge and we need your help.
-I've got to get my dog groomed at noon, but after that, I'm all yours.
-Fabulous. Can you drive us to our doom?
-Sure. Adam, I have to ask you an important question though.
-Alright, Bob, what is it?
-Can you kick in for gas money?
-Of course, Bob, you can't take it with you, after all!
<end scene>

Did law enforcement ever identify the couple with Elena and Adam?

I watched this case the other day, and before even thinking about Adam jumping or not jumping off that bridge, I am just struck at his complete lack of remorse...not just for killing a person, but for killing the wrong person.

Even during his trial when he was explaining his actions, there was no remorse, no shame, no emotion. It looked as if he was saying, "Someone sideswiped me so I had to kill someone, so I did." And that now infamous post-trial courtroom footage where he's whispering with Elena, he still looks like a robot, completely devoid of any emotion or recognition of what he did.

If ever there was a killer from UM who I would wish to see in handcuffs and a orange suit, he would be in the top 5. The man is scum. And yes, I believe he did not jump. Since he lacks any sort of compassion or remorse, I could see him pushing Elena off the bridge (not that I feel sorry for her) and taking off. I'm glad the FBI is still looking for him.

His wikipedia page says the authorities have no evidence that he jumped. Wouldn't Elena's skull be evidence? Not direct evidence, but it suggests that there was some sort of suicide pact between them. I still believe he is dead.

Even during his trial when he was explaining his actions, there was no remorse, no shame, no emotion. It looked as if he was saying, "Someone sideswiped me so I had to kill someone, so I did."


I agree. I could almost understand the stabbing. It was the heat of the moment, he was pissed off, he had been drinking, and was likely running pretty high on adrenaline, and if that wasn’t enough, his wife pretty much egged him on.

But the fact that even after being taken into custody, after having plenty of time to calm down and sober up, he still didn’t express any remorse regarding his actions, what little sympathy I may have had, ends.

Though I still think we can’t rule out suicide. No one has seen or heard from him in the decades that followed. I don’t know if Adam was the type of guy who would be able to last long as a fugitive.

It was mentioned on the segment that a piece of a lower leg bone belonging to a male was found in the bay. There was some material attached to the bone that resembled the running socks they purchased that night. An expert testified that the bone could not have been Adam’s as the height would have been incorrect.

I’ve always wondered if the expert was wrong and the bone was Adam’s. If it’s still around, perhaps some dna testing could be done.

It was mentioned on the segment that a piece of a lower leg bone belonging to a male was found in the bay. There was some material attached to the bone that resembled the running socks they purchased that night. An expert testified that the bone could not have been Adam’s as the height would have been incorrect.

I’ve always wondered if the expert was wrong and the bone was Adam’s. If it’s still around, perhaps some dna testing could be done.

They also said that there weren't any organisms growing on the sock, meaning that it wasn't under water for as long as Adam was alleged to have jumped. The anthropologist said he was 85% certain that the bones were from a male no taller than 5'7". I think they are wrong. What are the odds that someone finds someone else's leg bones with the same identical socks that they purchased before jumping?

Even during his trial when he was explaining his actions, there was no remorse, no shame, no emotion. It looked as if he was saying, "Someone sideswiped me so I had to kill someone, so I did." And that now infamous post-trial courtroom footage where he's whispering with Elena, he still looks like a robot, completely devoid of any emotion or recognition of what he did.

What about the idea that he was mentally "dead" at that point? Honestly this isn't going to be a popular opinion but I would say a good chunk of the population is capable of doing the exact same thing as he did and I have seen plenty of people do similar things to me over the years (obviously never killed me but could easily have over very minor things). Maybe he was already planning on committing suicide if he was convicted and caught a "lucky break" being released?

They really should do DNA testing on the leg bone, if possible. If it doesn't belong to Emery, then that's fine, but at least there's potential for ruling it out and finding out who it belongs to.

I've read through some news articles and the only leg bone mentioned was Elena's. I can't find any source outside of UM about the leg bone of the 5'7" male - does anyone have a link they could share?

Who sideswiped Adam's car?

Who sideswiped Adam's car?

I'm afraid I don't understand your question. It's always been my understanding that Adam went after and ultimately killed the wrong person for this offense. I don't think they ever found the person who was driving the vehicle that actualy sideswiped Adam.

Occam's Razor would have Adam jumping from the cliffs with Elena (and having his remains swept away, hers later being recovered per the segment). Given the randomness of the crime, this fits.

Alternately, he could've chickened out at the last minute (after killing Elena) and decided to skip the country, but in that event, he would've needed help from somewhere/someone and that's something I would think the FBI would've picked up on by now.

Either way, I highly doubt that Adam would do something so stupid & impulsive and then suddenly become all mercurial (kill his wife, make it look like they had both committed suicide, then run)

Occam's Razor would have Adam jumping from the cliffs with Elena (and having his remains swept away, hers later being recovered per the segment). Given the randomness of the crime, this fits.

Alternately, he could've chickened out at the last minute (after killing Elena) and decided to skip the country, but in that event, he would've needed help from somewhere/someone and that's something I would think the FBI would've picked up on by now.

Either way, I highly doubt that Adam would do something so stupid & impulsive and then suddenly become all mercurial (kill his wife, make it look like they had both committed suicide, then run)

You doubt he would be stupid and impulsive? What's more stupid and impulsive than what he did to Jason Bass?

The FBI is actively looking for him. He's on the FBI's most wanted violent criminals list.

You would think he would have been found by now if he's alive, but I would think Gloria Schulze, Richard Bocklage, and Randall Utterback would have been found. And there's nothing particularly remarkable about any of those people at all.

Occam's Razor would have Adam jumping from the cliffs with Elena (and having his remains swept away, hers later being recovered per the segment). Given the randomness of the crime, this fits.

Alternately, he could've chickened out at the last minute (after killing Elena) and decided to skip the country, but in that event, he would've needed help from somewhere/someone and that's something I would think the FBI would've picked up on by now.

Either way, I highly doubt that Adam would do something so stupid & impulsive and then suddenly become all mercurial (kill his wife, make it look like they had both committed suicide, then run)

I agree that the simplest explanation is that he is also dead in the water. However, the FBI has made it a point to look for him and the implication is that they have pretty solid evidence he is out there.

Something is off about the whole suicide scene. I feel like they went out of their way to stage it beyond what would be normal. Maybe they both jumped and he survived and then wanted to live. (This same thing has happened to other suicide survivors, including people who survived jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge.). He may have had second thoughts and killed her, also.

The fact the FBI is so adamant that he is alive tells me there must be something there.

You doubt he would be stupid and impulsive? What's more stupid and impulsive than what he did to Jason Bass?

The FBI is actively looking for him. He's on the FBI's most wanted violent criminals list.


No I don't. I'm saying for him to do something stupid & impulsive like what he did to Jason Bass and then completely switch gears, carefully & methodically hatching a plot to stage a suicide/disappear doesn't jive at all.

No I don't. I'm saying for him to do something stupid & impulsive like what he did to Jason Bass and then completely switch gears, carefully & methodically hatching a plot to stage a suicide/disappear doesn't jive at all.

I see the point you are making - I misread/misunderstood your post the first time

The fact the FBI is so adamant that he is alive tells me there must be something there.

Robert Fisher and Brad Bishop are still wanted by the FBI, but I am nearly 100% convinced that both of these men are dead and committed suicide shortly after murdering their families. Every single sighting of these men has turned out to be negative. I think the reason why they still hold out some sort of "hope" that these men are alive is that they cannot conclusively prove that they are dead.

Robert Fisher and Brad Bishop are still wanted by the FBI, but I am nearly 100% convinced that both of these men are dead and committed suicide shortly after murdering their families. Every single sighting of these men has turned out to be negative. I think the reason why they still hold out some sort of "hope" that these men are alive is that they cannot conclusively prove that they are dead.

It's interesting that, while still wanted by the FBI, Brad Bishop's name was taken off the FBI's Ten Most Wanted List in 2018, citing that they believed publicity would no longer aid in his capture.

When his name was added to the list in 2014, all I kept thinking was...why now? Why not 30 years ago?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fbi-removes-accused-killer-of-his-family-from-ten-most-wanted-list-1530213109

This is one of the more intriguing cases on the surface thanks to UM’s dramatic presentation, however I think the reality is that Emery committed suicide with his wife.

They are really portrayed as ****** here. It’s almost comical.

I suspect Jason Bass and his friends were much more aggressive during the confrontation than in the re-enactment and with Emery being a National Guardsman he maybe took situational awareness too far. Unfortunately that kid ended up dead.

I also did not get the impression Emery was a cold blooded psycho. In the post trial footage he looks composed but uncomfortable, which is not really out of the ordinary given the situation. I think him and his wife felt genuinely guilty about how it all turned out and jumped. Maybe they had other issues as well that contributed to suicide but either way they both died.

This is one of the more intriguing cases on the surface thanks to UM’s dramatic presentation, however I think the reality is that Emery committed suicide with his wife.

They are really portrayed as ****** here. It’s almost comical.

I suspect Jason Bass and his friends were much more aggressive during the confrontation than in the re-enactment and with Emery being a National Guardsman he maybe took situational awareness too far. Unfortunately that kid ended up dead.

I also did not get the impression Emery was a cold blooded psycho. In the post trial footage he looks composed but uncomfortable, which is not really out of the ordinary given the situation. I think him and his wife felt genuinely guilty about how it all turned out and jumped. Maybe they had other issues as well that contributed to suicide but either way they both died.

There's nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, to support that Jason Bass did anything at all to Adam Emery, and it's disgraceful
to suggest otherwise. Jason was at the wrong place at the wrong time and found himself in the path of a deranged man's misdirected rage, and he paid for it with his life.

Adam Emery, putting aside for one minute the argument of whether he's fish food or not, is one of the most horrible human beings profiled on Unsolved Mysteries.

There's nothing to support the idea that Adam Emery felt guilty, where would you even get that idea? He was completely unapologetic, even after he was presented with fact that Jason Bass did nothing to him. He never once expressed anything resembling remorse.

This is one of the more intriguing cases on the surface thanks to UM’s dramatic presentation, however I think the reality is that Emery committed suicide with his wife.

They are really portrayed as ****** here. It’s almost comical.

I suspect Jason Bass and his friends were much more aggressive during the confrontation than in the re-enactment and with Emery being a National Guardsman he maybe took situational awareness too far. Unfortunately that kid ended up dead.

I also did not get the impression Emery was a cold blooded psycho. In the post trial footage he looks composed but uncomfortable, which is not really out of the ordinary given the situation. I think him and his wife felt genuinely guilty about how it all turned out and jumped. Maybe they had other issues as well that contributed to suicide but either way they both died.

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Good call. I walked right into it

I'm sorry if this has been posted before, but I found a lengthy and detailed article here (https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/when-adam-lost-the-tail-light-of-his-t-bird-things-got-bad-then-they-got-worse-a-truth-is-stranger-1396426.html) about the case, which gives much more background on the victim, Jason Bass.

I know this has been brought up before, but I wonder if the actual driver who sideswiped Emery's car ever even knew the events that they set into motion that night.

I'm sorry if this has been posted before, but I found a lengthy and detailed article here (https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/when-adam-lost-the-tail-light-of-his-t-bird-things-got-bad-then-they-got-worse-a-truth-is-stranger-1396426.html) about the case, which gives much more background on the victim, Jason Bass.

O.K., this astounds me. When the verdict was read in court, Elena's brother shouted at Bass's family that they were scumbags. And Elena's mother wailed, "Oh God, God, God, help my son-in-law!!! He's not a bad person!!!"

The level of delusion on this family's part, the fact that they can take reality and twist it so tightly into this fantasy world that paints Adam as the victim? :mad: Instead of sobbing for perfect boy Adam, why wasn't the mother-in-law mortified that he had it in himself to chase a boy (an INNOCENT boy) down in the dark and stab him to death with a knife? And what exactly makes the Bass family 'scumbags?' How dare they....grieve the family member who was just MURDERED by your brother-in-law?

I can have sympathy for people who have just had the rug pulled out from underneath them. But only truly weak, horrible people will use that devastation to rewrite the narrative into themselves being the party that was wronged. The complete lack of empathy on their part boggles the mind.

The complete lack of empathy on their part boggles the mind.

Ditto for Adam Emery. Had he broke down at trial and said he honestly feared for his life and thought that Jason Bass was the one who hit his car, I might have had some sympathy for what had happened. But his cold response of "they didn't heed my warning" just shows how he felt at his trial.

Ditto for Adam Emery. Had he broke down at trial and said he honestly feared for his life and thought that Jason Bass was the one who hit his car, I might have had some sympathy for what had happened. But his cold response of "they didn't heed my warning" just shows how he felt at his trial.

Yep. He was a cold-hearted, ruthless SOB and that is why I think he did not commit suicide. I think he either convinced his wife that's what they would do and reneged, or agreed to make it look like a set-up suicide and then he actually killed her.

Adam Emery was way too selfish to commit suicide. He was crazy like a fox.

Meg, Cars, Todd M., dynoguy - a heartfelt opinion: I genuinely enjoy your posts and reading your contributions

Always a pleasure to hear your opinions on these cases.

Meg, Cars, Todd M., dynoguy - a heartfelt opinion: I genuinely enjoy your posts and reading your contributions

Always a pleasure to hear your opinions on these cases.

Thanks! :wave:

Meg, Cars, Todd M., dynoguy - a heartfelt opinion: I genuinely enjoy your posts and reading your contributions

Always a pleasure to hear your opinions on these cases.

Thanks, Jon! I really appreciate that. We have a good group of smart, insightful, clever, and humorous people here. It's fun to be a part of it.

Meg, Cars, Todd M., dynoguy - a heartfelt opinion: I genuinely enjoy your posts and reading your contributions

Always a pleasure to hear your opinions on these cases.

Thank you! That's probably more praise than I deserve considering how much I complain. But it's much appreciated that you don't mind it so much.

Meg, Cars, Todd M., dynoguy - a heartfelt opinion: I genuinely enjoy your posts and reading your contributions

Always a pleasure to hear your opinions on these cases.

Back at ya! :wave:

Oh, I love it when everyone joins hands ‘round the campfire and sings Kumbaya! :)

There's nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, to support that Jason Bass did anything at all to Adam Emery, and it's disgraceful
to suggest otherwise. Jason was at the wrong place at the wrong time and found himself in the path of a deranged man's misdirected rage, and he paid for it with his life. Well, let’s keep in mind that UM re-enactments are not really indicative of reality.

When I was like 20 years old if some guy came after me I would have been ready to fight no matter what he thought I did, especially with friends behind me. According to all evidence that was the situation with Jason Bass, so it doesn’t seem out of the question to think Bass didn’t simply break down and beg for his life. Young blue collar guys like Bass are usually ready to fight. And maybe Emery’s military experience made him a more lethal opponent than the usual guy on the street.


There's nothing to support the idea that Adam Emery felt guilty, where would you even get that idea? He was completely unapologetic, even after he was presented with fact that Jason Bass did nothing to him. He never once expressed anything resembling remorse. He only seemed unapologetic because of the re-enactment. It seems much more likely at this point that he did kill himself; that’s enough evidence of guilt IMO.

According to all evidence that was the situation with Jason Bass

This is not true. At all. Bass tried getting away from Emery when Emery approached him. Emery jumped on the car while Bass was driving away and that's when Emery stabbed him twice. Jason Bass did nothing to provoke Adam Emery.

Again... let’s veer away from the generalizations about others, mmkay? Not ALL blue collar males are down to fight immediately. It’s not true.

There is NOTHING in the record to indicate Adam Emery’s victim did anything other than run for his life. People haven’t based that conclusion on the UM re-enactment alone. There have been other sources of information in this case.

The Adam/Elena Emery case really makes me sick. Jason Bass & his friends were young people minding their own business, and just because Emery thought that Jason's car scratched his (incorrectly, as it turned out) he murdered Jason. Even if Jason's car had been the one that hit him, Emery killing him because of this would have been heinous. But, as it stood - Jason was innocent of any wrongdoing.

Glad the book was thrown @ Emery re: this crime; in too many cases, wealthy people literally get away with murder. I.e., if he hadn't vanished he would have been facing a long jail sentence. That being said - if he hadn't had $ (or if his family hadn't had money) he wouldn't have been out on bail. So, AFAIC - he was better off than a poor person given that he had enough money for bail, and so had the opportunity to vanish.

As far as to what happened to AE, that's a good question. It's evident that his wife Elena did die, given that some of her bones were definitively found in Narragansett Bay. However, it's not obvious that AE also died in this way. It's possible that his wife killed herself by jumping off the bridge or because she was pushed by AE, but he may not have jumped - and is still out there somewhere. Just because there's no trace of the guy doesn't mean he's dead...but, it's also possible he jumped off the bridge with Elena.

Gravas:

It's great that you're enthusiastic about the show, but all of your posts just rehash what's been said by others on here years ago. Please actually read the threads in their entirety before weighing in with all this pointless, regurgitated commentary. Nothing personal, but you're the first person I've had to place on the ignore list. Doing so again. Your comments add nothing.

Gravas:

It's great that you're enthusiastic about the show, but all of your posts just rehash what's been said by others on here years ago. Please actually read the threads in their entirety before weighing in with all this pointless, regurgitated commentary. Nothing personal, but you're the first person I've had to place on the ignore list. Doing so again. Your comments add nothing.

We don't need posts like this. Your comments add nothing. If you don't want read somebody's posts, that's fine. That's why there's an ignore option. There's no reason to be a dick and make a public spectacle about it. Nothing personal, but you don't get to play board cop and tell people what or where they can post.

Latka Gravas and anybody else can post in any thread they want. He's not creating any new threads that clutter up the board. He just posts in existing threads. You can't expect people to go back and read hundreds of replies in every thread. I think it's cool that somebody is watching and experiencing the series for the first time. Everybody gets their opportunity here to weigh in and give their thoughts on the cases.

Latka, please keep posting what you want. Don't let one bad apple spoil it for you.

So... just throwing it out there because I'm curious and I know the FBI is still looking for him....

How many of y'all think that Adam Emery is actually alive?

I'm on the fence. I think there's a reason the FBI has resumed searching for him that hasn't been made public. On the other hand, I don't think there have been any credible sightings of him since he was last seen with Elena....

So... just throwing it out there because I'm curious and I know the FBI is still looking for him....

How many of y'all think that Adam Emery is actually alive?

I'm on the fence. I think there's a reason the FBI has resumed searching for him that hasn't been made public. On the other hand, I don't think there have been any credible sightings of him since he was last seen with Elena....

I 100% believe he is alive. And he's probably being hidden with the help of his family. His family and Elena's family were pretty disgusting towards the Bass family in court, which is completely undeserved because all they were doing was grieving Jason. So the Emery family, much like Adam, justified in their heads the horrible things Adam did. That point cannot be emphasized enough in regards to what they considered "reality."

Adam could very easily have called his family from hiding, told them some BS story that Elena slipped off the bridge and of course they'd believe him. Even if her going over the bridge actually was an accident, his family would have remained committed to him avoiding the consequences of his actions in regards to Jason Bass and helped him hide in any way they could. We see family members of killers do this all the time. It's not at all uncommon.

We don't need posts like this. Your comments add nothing. If you don't want read somebody's posts, that's fine. That's why there's an ignore option. There's no reason to be a dick and make a public spectacle about it. Nothing personal, but you don't get to play board cop and tell people what or where they can post.

Latka Gravas and anybody else can post in any thread they want. He's not creating any new threads that clutter up the board. He just posts in existing threads. You can't expect people to go back and read hundreds of replies in every thread. I think it's cool that somebody is watching and experiencing the series for the first time. Everybody gets their opportunity here to weigh in and give their thoughts on the cases.

Latka, please keep posting what you want. Don't let one bad apple spoil it for you.

You're the owner so:
1. Appreciate that there's not enough Labrador related themes or adverts... if you're going to have such popups, at least make sure they're framed in labradorable themes and pics of lab puppies.
2. Change your avatar to lab puppy type paraphernalia at the very least.
3. Understand that this site is above you now as a personal undertaking. Only Labradors can save you now. Hope this helps.

P.s. my contention is that they're both dead. He was road rage upset but hardly a sociopath to the point of pushing his wife and starting fresh. With what money and what plastic surgery? Were not talking carillo Amado Fuentes type money to change his face. Guy is dead IMO.

Also, more labradors pls and less posts that don't include aforementioned labs

I 100% believe he is alive. And he's probably being hidden with the help of his family. His family and Elena's family were pretty disgusting towards the Bass family in court, which is completely undeserved because all they were doing was grieving Jason. So the Emery family, much like Adam, justified in their heads the horrible things Adam did. That point cannot be emphasized enough in regards to what they considered "reality."

Adam could very easily have called his family from hiding, told them some BS story that Elena slipped off the bridge and of course they'd believe him. Even if her going over the bridge actually was an accident, his family would have remained committed to him avoiding the consequences of his actions in regards to Jason Bass and helped him hide in any way they could. We see family members of killers do this all the time. It's not at all uncommon.

I've probably said this before in this very thread-- I don't think you're wrong. I'm on the fence just because there have been no sightings of him.

HOWEVER... there have also been no sightings of our favorite "nerdy possessive boyfriend" Randall Utterback and I COMPLETELY believe he's alive and in hiding....

I've probably said this before in this very thread-- I don't think you're wrong. I'm on the fence just because there have been no sightings of him.

HOWEVER... there have also been no sightings of our favorite "nerdy possessive boyfriend" Randall Utterback and I COMPLETELY believe he's alive and in hiding....

I agree he could be dead - no sightings and that leg bone found with the sock like they bought at the store has never been DNA tested. Estimating height via leg bone isn't as highly regarded as an exacting science as it was then either. It being from a 5'7" person while he's 6'1" could be within margin of error.

I think he could also be alive due to the fact that the incident seems very much instigated by Elena and without her around to influence him, he could live a quiet life with minimal fuss. He doesn't have a distinctive look/appearance either.

He's dead. I'm convinced the leg bone is his.

I agree he could be dead - no sightings and that leg bone found with the sock like they bought at the store has never been DNA tested. Estimating height via leg bone isn't as highly regarded as an exacting science as it was then either. It being from a 5'7" person while he's 6'1" could be within margin of error.

I think he could also be alive due to the fact that the incident seems very much instigated by Elena and without her around to influence him, he could live a quiet life with minimal fuss. He doesn't have a distinctive look/appearance either.

I'm just picturing them both at the side of the bridge, counting down. They reach one, Elena jumps, and Adam just stands there. I wonder what went through her head when/if that happened.

If he's alive and did what I just described, it's cold blooded.

I used to think there was a good chance he walked away, but now I'm pretty convinced he's in the water. It really would be a good idea to test that leg bone and try to get DNA--what are the odds that the sock attached WASN'T his that he just got at the store?

Also, he would have had to have been so lucky to not been spotted walking away from the bridge if he pushed/coaxed Elena over and ran off. Plenty of people saw the Emerys on the bridge--could he really have run off with no one spotting him? Unless he had help from family (in a really clandestine way), I don't see how he could have stayed off the radar this long, either.

Apparently, the FBI feels differently and that there's a good chance they'll find him in the next 5 years.

Gravas:

It's great that you're enthusiastic about the show, but all of your posts just rehash what's been said by others on here years ago. Please actually read the threads in their entirety before weighing in with all this pointless, regurgitated commentary. Nothing personal, but you're the first person I've had to place on the ignore list. Doing so again. Your comments add nothing.

Thanks! I specifically post what I do because I knew you would put me on your ignore list. Thanks for doing me that favor - I really appreciate this. I also appreciate your being so incredibly predictable. Keep up the good work!!!

I'm just picturing them both at the side of the bridge, counting down. They reach one, Elena jumps, and Adam just stands there. I wonder what went through her head when/if that happened.

If he's alive and did what I just described, it's cold blooded.

I think it would be in character. He was already cold blooded for doing what he did to Jason Bass. And the fact that there was ZERO remorse on his part both in person and in court despite chasing down and killing the wrong person. Just look at that infamous footage of Adam and Elena talking outside the courtroom after the verdict. The soulless (and arrogant) expression on his face after finding out his fate and all the lives he's destroyed, it's too much for him to show even the slightest bit of emotion. Not even towards his own wife who is clearly distraught.

I agree with the Bass family when they say that facial expression spoke volumes. It's because he knew he would be going on the run and wouldn't be spending a single day in prison.

Lamont At Large traveled to Rhode Island to visit some of the locations and the graves of Adam (which is empty) and Elena Emery and Jason Bass.

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Hard Copy did a story on January 29, 1994. They show the Burger King where they ate.

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I also believe he's dead.

Lamont At Large traveled to Rhode Island to visit some of the locations and the graves of Adam (which is empty) and Elena Emery and Jason Bass.

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Hard Copy did a story on January 29, 1994. They show the Burger King where they ate.

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That's some interesting stuff. Thanks for the link!

Although I can envision someone from any of the Law & Order shows hosting UM, I don't have a primary ideal choice for a prospective new host. However, I can list some things that would make someone compatible as such.

1) The way I see it, the host of an anti-crime show is best suited for someone over the age 40; that way, there is more sophistication on that person's part.

2) I honestly would not want it to be a big-time movie star or any other overexposed celebrity. They'd be too distracting.

3) I happen to agree that it would have to be someone with the caliber like Robert Stack's to be convincing and effective. I wouldn't want a Robert Stack look-alike or a Robert Stack copycat. Just someone with Stack's caliber, who has the courage to be tough on criminals (just like Robert Stack evidently was).

4) It would also be wise to go with someone who has never previously hosted any established anti-crime/true crime series. That way, it would provide the show a much fresher (re)start.

One is entitled to disagree with me on any of these ideas, and I will respect that. However, I am firm about them.

Thanks for asking. :)

I could go for Clancy Brown or Dennis Haysbert. Maybe even Keith David.

Yep, I'm pretty sure the identity of the motorist is still an unsolved-mystery-within-an-unsolved-mystery. For all we know, they may never have even made the connection about what happened.

I don't blame them for not saying anything. They were probably afraid the Emerys were going to come after him/her if they spoke up.

Thanks for those videos links, very interesting to see where it all happened.

I also think he's dead. He was a narcissist; I don't believe he would have given the state or the Bass family the satisfaction of seeing him in prison. He jumped with her. I can't accept that he would push her over or walk away. I question whether he had the smarts, resources or time to plan an escape to Europe.

Does anyone know why he wasn't, as a convicted murderer, remanded to state custody immediately?

The both of them jumped that night. Planning and executing the perfect crime, double cross, and flawless escape within hours of being convicted just doesn't seem probable. Ironically, he'd probably be out of prison by now.

Does anyone know why he wasn't, as a convicted murderer, remanded to state custody immediately?

He was allowed to be released pending formal sentencing and it's hard to understate how terrible this decision by the judge was.

If he's alive, then he's gotten away with murder for three decades.

If he's dead, that means the FBI has been wasting resources all this time trying to find him living on the run. They were still following up leads as recently as 2017 - I do not know if they are still looking in 2023. Something that gets lost in all the theorizing we do on these boards is that the LE authorities can, and do, withhold information about active investigations from the public (and for very good reasons).

He was allowed to be released pending formal sentencing and it's hard to understate how terrible this decision by the judge was.

If he's alive, then he's gotten away with murder for three decades.

If he's dead, that means the FBI has been wasting resources all this time trying to find him living on the run. They were still following up leads as recently as 2017 - I do not know if they are still looking in 2023. Something that gets lost in all the theorizing we do on these boards is that the LE authorities can, and do, withhold information about active investigations from the public (and for very good reasons).



Someone a page or two back mentioned a possible reason the FBI could've still been investigating this--even with the very real possibility that Adam was dead--was that they had never been able to turn up conclusive proof of that one way or another.

I may be giving the FBI too much credit here, but if Adam was as stupid, impulsive and sociopathic as he was and then got lucky when family or whoever else helped him go into hiding, I'm pretty sure the FBI could've turned up something along the way. There's no way you undergo a personality/behavioral shift like that and are then able to cover your tracks/keep your mouth shut for that long from absolutely everyone.

Thanks for those videos links, very interesting to see where it all happened.

I also think he's dead. He was a narcissist; I don't believe he would have given the state or the Bass family the satisfaction of seeing him in prison. He jumped with her. I can't accept that he would push her over or walk away. I question whether he had the smarts, resources or time to plan an escape to Europe.

But he DID have the resources! That's the thing! According to a news article I read on Boston 25 News, Adam has family in Italy. The FBI believes that someone may have MET him at the bridge after he tricked Elena into jumping. We already know he showed no remorse for killing Jason. Plus, one person is a lot easier to hide from the law than two.

The same article also mentioned that there was a sighting of him a few years ago on a Paris subway. Whether it or not it was credible is not mentioned.

https://www.boston25news.com/news/fbi-tweet-reignites-familys-hope-of-tracking-down-convicted-killer/480922675/

But he DID have the resources! That's the thing! According to a news article I read on Boston 25 News, Adam has family in Italy. The FBI believes that someone may have MET him at the bridge after he tricked Elena into jumping. We already know he showed no remorse for killing Jason. Plus, one person is a lot easier to hide from the law than two.

The same article also mentioned that there was a sighting of him a few years ago on a Paris subway. Whether it or not it was credible is not mentioned.

https://www.boston25news.com/news/fbi-tweet-reignites-familys-hope-of-tracking-down-convicted-killer/480922675/

Eyewitness sightings have been proven so unreliable over the years I'd have to put almost no credence in it. Especially one of someone whose been missing for two decades now, there is every reason to believe Emery would look vastly different today, especially if he is on the run and in hiding. Probably has grown a thick beard and is over twenty years older.

Whether or not Emery is alive, if I had to lay odds I'd say he isn't. I think he probably jumped with her and they simply haven't found his body. But anything is possible.

Still haunting to me how berserk this guy went, he had no history of violence or anything prior to this incident and yet it caused him to go completely off the deep end, to the point where he couldn't show any remorse even for killing the wrong man. Mind boggling.

I think he is dead. I think he jumped off the bridge as well. Just a hunch. Just because conclusive bones of him haven't shown up it doesn't mean that he isn't dead.

I think the tragic thing with this is just how easily it could have been avoided. For starters, imagine being the guy that actually did hit Adam's car. He's out there, whoever he is, and I suspect he knows full well that he did it because that story would have been huge locally I am sure. I wonder how he feels at the chain of events that took place because of that crash. If that crash does not happen, so many things are different today. Bass and Emery are most likely parents, possibly even grandparents.

But even so, he let his temper get the best of him. I can understand following the guy and even calling him out. But his wife giving him the knife and then him going bananas and then jumping on the car and then still stabbing him. Look, Adam had a way out of this I think. Maybe not a way out, but he easily could have gotten a lighter sentence if he does just a couple of different things. If he pleads guilty right away that gives him some good standing with the judge. If he is remorseful for what happened that helps. If he explains it was just rage and then trying to protect himself by stabbing what he thought was an already dangerous driver who he was afraid was going to run him over, then that might help.

All in all, it isn't a 1st degree murder. It might be 2nd degree. Let's say he is sentenced 12 years. He likely gets out in 8 years. Sure maybe Elena is re-married and such but at least he salvages his life. He's maybe 40 at the time.

He went about everything the wrong way and even if he somehow is alive, he has been looking over his shoulder for 30 years now, and that's no life. Honestly, all he had to do was co-operate and show remorse and that would have gone a long way.

I saw this in my recommendations.

Nearly 35 years ago, one of Rhode Island’s most infamous mysteries began: the disappearance of Adam Emery set in motion by a murder in Warwick born out of mistaken identity.

The NBC 10 I-Team’s Tamara Sacharczyk and Brian Crandall go Inside the Investigation into the disappearance of Adam Emery, the death of Jason Bass, and the mystery that has captivated the nation for decades.

Hear from retired officers involved the investigation, family members of the victim, and witnesses of the crime in the documentary "Mystery Under the Bridge: Where is Adam Emery?"

NBC 10 I-Team reexamines 1993 disappearance of Adam Emery in 'Mystery Under the Bridge' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Qr6FUm7ZI)

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Dang you beat me to it! ;-D

This report features more interviews with retired detective Kevin Hopkins who was in the original segment. Nice to see a very recent report on this case.

Some interesting old news and courtroom footage. That man had the cold unflinching stare of a full-fledged psychopath. Not much in there that we didn't know already though.

Only thing that bugs me is, we don't know what prompted the FBI to tweet his wanted poster out of the blue in 2017, over a decade after he was declared legally dead already. It could be any number of things - evidence they aren't sharing publicly, maybe a sighting (we all know how dodgy those can be), or they have nothing at all and they just picked some random cold case to revive, who knows

I saw this in my recommendations.

Nearly 35 years ago, one of Rhode Island’s most infamous mysteries began: the disappearance of Adam Emery set in motion by a murder in Warwick born out of mistaken identity.

The NBC 10 I-Team’s Tamara Sacharczyk and Brian Crandall go Inside the Investigation into the disappearance of Adam Emery, the death of Jason Bass, and the mystery that has captivated the nation for decades.

Hear from retired officers involved the investigation, family members of the victim, and witnesses of the crime in the documentary "Mystery Under the Bridge: Where is Adam Emery?"

NBC 10 I-Team reexamines 1993 disappearance of Adam Emery in 'Mystery Under the Bridge' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6Qr6FUm7ZI)

G6Qr6FUm7ZI



I was going to link this as well. Oddly, I was searching YT yesterday for the Emery case on this case completely unaware of the recent news special.