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sallydoll
11-17-2003, 12:07 PM
i just saw this movie "Bowling for Columbine" by Michael Moore and i was just wondering if Canada was really like that, you know that they dont fear strange people entering their homes like in the USA. Has anyone seen this movie? in my opion Micheal Moore did bring up a lot of interesting points about Americans.

Rickenbacker
11-17-2003, 04:34 PM
I saw it & it was very eye opening. Made me wish we got our act together like our friends up north.
Lots of it was very funny (the history of America cartoon!), but man- how bad did Moore make Charlton Heston & Dick Clark look??! I'll never see those guys in quite the same light again...(though I was never one of Heston's fans outside of films)

phoebe7165
11-17-2003, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Rickenbacker
I saw it & it was very eye opening. Made me wish we got our act together like our friends up north.
Lots of it was very funny (the history of America cartoon!), but man- how bad did Moore make Charlton Heston & Dick Clark look??! I'll never see those guys in quite the same light again...(though I was never one of Heston's fans outside of films)

Yes, I agree with you, Rickenbacker, about Dick Clark & Heston. I just saw this the other night and Michael Moore brought up ALOT of good points. If Canada wasn't so damn cold alot of the time, I'd move there in a heartbeat--practically nil murder rate and free healthcare!! I've been saying it for a long time that it's the media scaring the crap out of this country!!!!I absolutely hate watching the news anymore. How often was Y2K mentioned in the news? I was even hearing that planes were going to shut down mid-air and fall out of the sky. And how many times is the terrorist alert elevated? It's like I hear this everyday.

I have to admit, I do lock my front door all the time, even during the day. Just a habit I got into from an ex-roommate. She was always on my case about it, so now it's like I do it alot unconsciously--Shut the door, turn the lock on the doorknob.

There was one thing that opened my eyes. I'm not much of a fan of Marilyn Manson, but when Moore was interviewing him, and he was asked, "what would you say to the students of Colombine?" and Marilyn replied "I wouldn't say anything, I'd listen to them and what they had to say"(or something like that). I never thought of it that way until he said something.

It always got me when people blame the lyrics in hard rock/heavy metal music for the troubles of young people. I've been listening to this music FOR YEARS, and not once did I think of killing myself or have any desire to shoot up a school.

sallydoll
11-18-2003, 11:09 PM
if it wasnt so cold. what suck the most, to me, was when he showed the picture of the 6 year old to Heston and he didnt even want to look at it, and yeah i dont like any marlin manson songs either but he did make a great point, he seemed more inteligent than Heston and Clark. well thanx for the comments :)

EricIdlefan
11-19-2003, 05:43 PM
That is the reason I really want to visit Canada to feel and see the cold weather!!

robyrob
11-23-2003, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by sallydoll
if it wasnt so cold. what suck the most, to me, was when he showed the picture of the 6 year old to Heston and he didnt even want to look at it, and yeah i dont like any marlin manson songs either but he did make a great point, he seemed more inteligent than Heston and Clark. well thanx for the comments :) go to vancouver, b.c. - almost no snow, a year-round low of 10 degrees F, and mild summers with a high of 90 degrees F

....the downside is you get a lot of rain

sallydoll
11-23-2003, 12:09 PM
where is vancouver b.c.? well if you do live in canada could you tell me how it is? (like weather, gas charge, payment for housing, what stores are around, and anything els) thanx.

EricIdlefan
11-23-2003, 03:09 PM
Canada my parents visit in 1998 and thought it was beautiful, the country, the people were friendly and down-to-earth, and very, very, breathtaking!! They went to Toronto!!

Jenya
11-23-2003, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by sallydoll
where is vancouver b.c.?

Vancouver, British Columbia, is on the west coast bordering Washington State. :)

Jenya
11-23-2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by phoebe7165
Yes, I agree with you, Rickenbacker, about Dick Clark & Heston. I just saw this the other night and Michael Moore brought up ALOT of good points. If Canada wasn't so damn cold alot of the time, I'd move there in a heartbeat--practically nil murder rate and free healthcare!!

The Provinces that provide the best healthcare costs, I believe, are British Columbia and Québec. From my understanding, residents in these two Provinces (I can tell you from my own personal experience in Québec), are pretty much covered for ALL healthcare costs. :)

sallydoll
11-23-2003, 10:17 PM
now i really want to go and live there. hopefully i will go and visit canada to see how it is in in a couple of years, and if i like everything, i just might move over there. again thanx

Brad Russ
11-24-2003, 01:31 AM
I saw the movie a couple months ago, and thought it was very interesting. I like how Michael was able, (with the help of the two Columbine victims), to get Wal Mart to stop selling bullets. That was probably the highlight of the film for me. The stuff he shot in Canada was shocking! Who knew that a place so close to America could be so different? Leaving your doors unlocked as many Canadians do, would be unimagineable here in America!!! All in all I thought it was a very eye opening film in many ways.

phoebe7165
12-21-2003, 05:45 PM
When I retire, I plan to do the "snowbird" thing, and I might make Canada my summer home. I've never been there, but that's on my list to go for a vacation. The closest I've been is I was in Buffalo, NY.

webuster
12-21-2003, 06:02 PM
I saw Bowling for Columbine and thought the facts and arguments brought up were great. However, Moore was looking an answer as to why there's so much violence in America. Does anyone believe there is an answer? I believe there's a number of things- but it'd take like a 100 page essay to explain it. What I thought was unintentionally funny in the film was how the canadians outside of Taco Bel didn't care they were being filmed bunking off school -they mustn't have thought Moore's film would get so much attention!

sallydoll
12-21-2003, 10:35 PM
crazy old united states of america. yeah i agree, there are so many reasons why america has so much violence, its not even funny. but what was funny, was about the teens being interviewed. gotta love canadians. has anyone seen this other movie: "JFK", by Oliver Stone? i think it's very interesting. everyone should see it as well.

dr frasier crane
12-22-2003, 12:15 AM
Bowling for Columbine is nothing more than left-wing propaganda garbage. He bashes the NRA and makes fun of gun-owning Middle Americans. I happen to be one of those people. Let's explore this documentary a little more:

According to Forbes magazine, Moore misrepresented a key scene in the film where he targets a bank in Traverse City, MIchigan. As a long-standing promotional event, the bank offered customers opening new accounts a rifle instead of paying interest on a certificate of deposit. According o the movie, " I put $1,000 in a long-term account, they did the background check, and within an hour, I walked out with my New Weatherby." Shocking stuff. But it's not real. The bank employee who opened the account for Moore, Jan Jacobson, says that Moore's film company worked for a month on staging the scene. In reality, new account holders have to pick the gun up at a dealer in another city after a week-to-ten-day waiting period. Nobody just walks out of the bank holding a rifle.

If you want more proof read Laura Ingraham's "Shut Up & Sing"

webuster
12-22-2003, 01:22 PM
That is foul play, Moore's company setting up the bank scene- but I am still against gun ownership entirely.