Kelsey first announced it on the Craig Kilborn show. He said if he was asked by NBC to do a 12th season he would. But he hasn't been asked. There is actually a chance NBC would renew it for a 12th season since they haven't been able to create in ratings success stories for a while. But then again Frasier is no longer a ratings king.

I think they should end the show this year. "Frasier" had a long and great run. They should go out in grand fashion this season.

Besides, what if his co-stars don't want to do another season?

I can't see another season of "Frasier" being watchable without Niles or Martin.

it would be a shame if the show went out while it was down. It should follow it's parent show's example, and gracefully step off in the 11th season while still at the top.

I think the Eleventh seasons on both Cheers and Frasier are the best.

It would be nice to go on, but not if the writing and acting wasnt on par with this year.
I think the Maris Murder is the coolest storyline that Frasier has ever had.


And if Niles or Martin were gone.... I would stop watching immediatly.
Its nothing without them.

Originally, I would've said that this was the perfect time to end the show. However, the writing has gotten so much better this year. So another season wouldn't be all that bad.

rumor has it.... this isnt the end quite yet.

Originally posted by Brian Damage
Originally, I would've said that this was the perfect time to end the show. However, the writing has gotten so much better this year. So another season wouldn't be all that bad.

I agree. Towards the end of the tenth season, "Fraiser" seemed to be losing steam, but the writing this year has been so good, and the show has gotten so revitalized, they could do a twelfth season easily. And twelve seasons would make a very good run. Twelve is a nice, even figure to end at. There's a sense of completeness to a dozen - a dozen eggs, the Dirty Dozen - that eleven lacks! :D

Hey, maybe if there's a twelfth season, maybe we'll finally see Maris! Though I doubt it! ;)

Originally posted by DianeChambers87
it would be a shame if the show went out while it was down. It should follow it's parent show's example, and gracefully step off in the 11th season while still at the top.

I definitely agree.

So funny--once I saw Kelsey at some awards show giving a red carpet interview (this was a while ago) and he said that he wanted to do 12 seasons of Frasier because then he says "I win," since the show would have run one season longer than Cheers. I thought that was a great comment.

FROM MEDIAWEEK.COM:

The Moral of the NBC Story:
-Whoopi and Happy Family are an improvement, but far from
solid (particularly among adults 18-49).
-Frasier is down but likely to be back in 2004-05 (how can
they pass up on promoting is as Frasier: The Final
Season?).
-Good Morning, Miami is nothing more than time period
filler.
-SVU is solid, but Friday is hurt without it.


That is so true, "Friends" is getting all the promotion and come May will be getting all the magazine covers and NBC's promotional blitz. "Frasier" deserves a year-long "final season" promo blitz just as much (more in my opinion, as part of the "Cheers" dynasty). Plus NBC can't afford two of its three hit sitcoms in the same year. I would also like to see "Frasier" outlive "Cheers" in length, and stick it to Ted "can't act, sounds like he's reading instead" Danson.

According to David Lee there is absolutely no way Frasier is going any longer than this season. Check out his posts just up this week (listed as PrestonDL) on a.t.f. - he is pretty clear about the insulting abuse that has been heaped on Frasier by Zucker and NBC (especially this season - Lee stated : "Mr. Zucker has told us that NBC is not going to make a big deal that this is the last season of FRASIER so as not to take away from the FRIENDS wrap up. He actually said that us. Nice, huh?" So it doesn't look like this attitude on NBC's part will change any time in the future. And there isn't any enthusiasm on the producers or Frasier part to continue with a relationship with NBC (can you blame them??).

Sorry for being clueless, but what's a.t.f?:confused: ;) Thanks!

It is a newsgroup - alt. tv. frasier. You can "google" it and read the archived posts.

That is very sad...I wish Frasier would get more promotion. IN my opinion, Frasier is a much better show than Friends. Friends doesn't appeal to me. I wonder why it appeals to everyone else?

Not *everyone* else (certainly not me!), but I understand your point. Liking or not liking something, is of course, a very subjective issue. Why do lots of people like reality shows like "Survivor"? Why did truckloads of viewers watch "I want to be a Millionaire"? Why do people flock to movies like "The Matrix Reloaded" or the Terminator flicks?? For that matter - Why do people actually *buy* the "National Enquirer"? Or eat food from MacDonalds? Hype? The herd mentality of the collective? I'll never understand a lot of what appeals to "the great unwashed".

Some critics have actually interpreted "Frasier" as a satire on the educated classes designed to delight the "great unwashed" who hate intellectuals and bourgeois elitists like Frasier and Niles. Appraently, in this analysis, Martin is the respected "average guy" who has to suffer his insufferable twits of sons. After all, it's just not normal for American male heterosexuals to be so cultured and refined like the Crane brothers, no?

I see it differently. Frasier and Niles show that you can be cultured and refined and still act as foolishly as any Joe Sixpack, and Martin has acted foolishly on occasion. In other words, everybody, to quote the Main Ingredient, plays the fool sometimes. What makes Frasier and Niles so funny is that they think that their education and their refinement somehows spare them of having that character trait. Ironically, they make fools of themselves worrying about their status. They're so class-conscious, they agonize over it - a typically American attitude.

As Paul Fussell noted in his 1983 book Class: A Guide Through the American Status System, "If you find an American who feels entirely class-secure, stuff him and exhibit him. He's a rare specimen." :)