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JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo 09-26-2003, 08:19 AM Ok, i'm gonna ask a question that will probably flare up a few people , and who knows, even make them feel like they have the right to chew my butt out. If this feeling should happen to spark up in you, by all means, please go to someone who cares. Thank you.
Is there any one who is gay and a strong Christian? I'm just wondering how this can be, since it's all over the Bible how homosexualtiy is wrong? What is your belief in this if you have one? Just trying to ask a question... not trying to judge.
.simpson_10. 09-26-2003, 10:49 AM Originally posted by JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo
Ok, i'm gonna ask a question that will probably flare up a few people , and who knows, even make them feel like they have the right to chew my butt out. If this feeling should happen to spark up in you, by all means, please go to someone who cares. Thank you.
Is there any one who is gay and a strong Christian? I'm just wondering how this can be, since it's all over the Bible how homosexualtiy is wrong? What is your belief in this if you have one? Just trying to ask a question... not trying to judge.
i,m NOT but who are you.
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 09-26-2003, 11:04 AM Im straight and a Christian, but people who are gay cant help the way they feel. Im sure there are just as many gay religious people as there are many gay atheists. Everyone sins and you cant be perfect, so being gay would just be a 'flaw' in Gods eyes, then so be it. Dont want to preach, but God loves everyone and forgives.. so if you admit your sins, etc. as well.
Penny Lane 09-26-2003, 12:18 PM Originally posted by ¤MsConanOBrien¤
Im straight and a Christian, but people who are gay cant help the way they feel. Im sure there are just as many gay religious people as there are many gay atheists. Everyone sins and you cant be perfect, so being gay would just be a 'flaw' in Gods eyes, then so be it. Dont want to preach, but God loves everyone and forgives.. so if you admit your sins, etc. as well.
You are absolutely right! The bible also names gluttony, gossiping,drunkenness, adultry, as sin also. Why do people think that homosexuality is worse than these?
Unwanted Angel 09-26-2003, 12:25 PM well, i am Bi-sexual, and i believe in God. But if it is true that all gay people go to hell, then hell is going to be very full.
Josh9125 09-26-2003, 02:43 PM I'm bi and i'm a christian, and I know im not going to hell.
Georgia's on my Mind 09-26-2003, 03:02 PM gay sex is the same sin as sex before marriage imo.
omalleyfan 09-26-2003, 03:11 PM I'm bisexual, but i have to admit that all of the brimstone preaching Christian fundies, as well as the Vatican itself (who compared legalizing gay adoption to legalizing pedophilia), has kinda alienated me from the church since I know what I am and I am sick of people judging sexual preference over personality, humanity and the sort. I find it funny you can be gay and live a Mother Theresa type of life... but if you dare like the same sex, you're frying in hell for eternity. But if you're straight and commit adultery, molest children, etc.... being straight is a "get out of jail free" card
Crimson and Clover 09-26-2003, 03:17 PM The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision.
~ Lynn Lavner
Josh9125 09-26-2003, 03:20 PM Originally posted by omalleyfan
I'm bisexual, but i have to admit that all of the brimstone preaching Christian fundies, as well as the Vatican itself (who compared legalizing gay adoption to legalizing pedophilia), has kinda alienated me from the church since I know what I am and I am sick of people judging sexual preference over personality, humanity and the sort. I find it funny you can be gay and live a Mother Theresa type of life... but if you dare like the same sex, you're frying in hell for eternity. But if you're straight and commit adultery, molest children, etc.... being straight is a "get out of jail free" card
I don't like Church...my Christianity is more of a private thing. :)
Ewan's My Man 09-26-2003, 03:30 PM Well, I'm Catholic...yes...ROMAN Catholic...I'm sure you've all heard about us Roman Catholics...the ones who are trying SO hard to ban same sex marriages. Well, I think that is BS. It annoys the CRAP outta me that Roman Catholics wanna ban same sex marriages. I'm straight, but I don't think being a homosexual is a sin...nor do I think any less of homosexual people...and if they wanna get married I think they should go right ahead!
Kay Scarpetta 09-26-2003, 03:41 PM Originally posted by Ewan's My Man
Well, I'm Catholic...yes...ROMAN Catholic...I'm sure you've all heard about us Roman Catholics...the ones who are trying SO hard to ban same sex marriages. Well, I think that is BS. It annoys the CRAP outta me that Roman Catholics wanna ban same sex marriages. I'm straight, but I don't think being a homosexual is a sin...nor do I think any less of homosexual people...and if they wanna get married I think they should go right ahead!
Ditto and ditttttttttttto. Although I don't go to Church anymore... but I agree w/everything Laudie said.
Crimson and Clover 09-26-2003, 03:43 PM Originally posted by Ewan's My Man
Well, I'm Catholic...yes...ROMAN Catholic...I'm sure you've all heard about us Roman Catholics...the ones who are trying SO hard to ban same sex marriages. Well, I think that is BS. It annoys the CRAP outta me that Roman Catholics wanna ban same sex marriages. I'm straight, but I don't think being a homosexual is a sin...nor do I think any less of homosexual people...and if they wanna get married I think they should go right ahead!
Its nice to have people like you.
Mr. Stefani 09-26-2003, 03:47 PM Originally posted by Georgia's on my Mind
gay sex is the same sin as sex before marriage imo.
what does what she asked have to do with sex?
omalleyfan 09-26-2003, 03:51 PM Originally posted by Ewan's My Man
Well, I'm Catholic...yes...ROMAN Catholic...I'm sure you've all heard about us Roman Catholics...the ones who are trying SO hard to ban same sex marriages. Well, I think that is BS. It annoys the CRAP outta me that Roman Catholics wanna ban same sex marriages. I'm straight, but I don't think being a homosexual is a sin...nor do I think any less of homosexual people...and if they wanna get married I think they should go right ahead!
as a Catholic, it really ticks me off that the Vatican is so homophobic, but at the same time, they don't seem to want to do much about the sex scandals. I am sorry, but there is a vast difference between two consenting adult men or women having sex than a 45 year old priest and an 11 year old. Yet the church seems to be more opposed to two gay or lesbian adults.
bandito 09-26-2003, 04:29 PM Originally posted by Josh9125
I'm bi and i'm a christian, and I know im not going to hell. How can you be so sure?
*MIBabe03* 09-26-2003, 04:32 PM Originally posted by Ewan's My Man
Well, I'm Catholic...yes...ROMAN Catholic...I'm sure you've all heard about us Roman Catholics...the ones who are trying SO hard to ban same sex marriages. Well, I think that is BS. It annoys the CRAP outta me that Roman Catholics wanna ban same sex marriages. I'm straight, but I don't think being a homosexual is a sin...nor do I think any less of homosexual people...and if they wanna get married I think they should go right ahead!
I am also a Roman Catholic and I agree with you 100%! As long as they are happy, why should it really matter?
fr00ti 09-26-2003, 04:37 PM I believe in God and most of the stuff in the Bible and I'm a lesbian. I dunno its very confusing.
Jenya 09-26-2003, 04:40 PM Originally posted by Georgia's on my Mind
gay sex is the same sin as sex before marriage imo.
The biggest sin of them all is when you cheat on your lover/spouse. That is the problem with relationships today. Whether you go to Hell or not for cheating is not an issue, but you better save yourself from being hunted down by the person you cheated on. One thing is for sure, you'll probably have to make arrangements for your own funeral!
Czas na Zywiec 09-26-2003, 05:03 PM Originally posted by bandito
How can you be so sure?
How can you be so sure he is going to hell?
*Marilyn Monroe* 09-26-2003, 05:23 PM There's no way to tell for SURE whether or not homosexuals are going to hell...and if you believe that everything in the bible is true, then you must also believe that women are unclean during their periods and cant leave the house. The more I read the bible, the more I doubt it.
So, none of that answered the question. Oh well...I'm sure there are lots of fire-and-brimstone preaching people who are gay.
Of course people can be devout Christians and be gay. My priest is gay! Someone who wants to tell me that they're more devout than my priest who has gone to seminary and spent the past thirty years in the service of God has got a lot of learning to do :D
As for the Bible being against homosexuality, it's not one of the 10 Commandments, is it? Let me see, what were the ten most important rules that we follow? Well one of them is never taking the Lord's name in vain. You want to tell me you've NEVER done that? :lol: Who are we to judge whose sins are worse?
Hollow 09-26-2003, 06:23 PM sexuality discussions are kind of annoying. but anyways i'm a straight atheist cause christianity sucks. and gay people arent going to hell cause ghosts stay on earth.
the end :)
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Hollow 09-26-2003, 06:35 PM Originally posted by Original Prankster
How can you be so sure he is going to hell?
he didnt say he was going to hell... he just said he cant be sure he isnt.
bandito 09-26-2003, 06:47 PM Originally posted by Original Prankster
How can you be so sure he is going to hell? I never said he was going to hell. Read more carefully before you make statements.
Mr. Stefani 09-26-2003, 06:49 PM Originally posted by ~°Sarah°~
sexuality discussions are kind of annoying. but anyways i'm a straight atheist cause christianity sucks. and gay people arent going to hell cause ghosts stay on earth.
the end :)
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atheists rock.
Hollow 09-26-2003, 07:06 PM Originally posted by Nirvana
atheists rock.
yeah. we dont have to waste time doing things like thanking god for dinner that he didnt make in the first place.
Josh9125 09-26-2003, 09:46 PM Originally posted by bandito
How can you be so sure?
John 3:16. :rolleyes: Thats how I can be so sure.
Hollow 09-26-2003, 10:03 PM Originally posted by Josh9125
John 3:16. :rolleyes: Thats how I can be so sure.
Excuse him for not knowing every verse in the bible.
and you cant prove that john 3:16 is real. but i dont think theres even such a place as hell anyway, all ghosts stay on earth, even bad ones.
bandito 09-26-2003, 10:08 PM Thanks Sarah.... Josh I was only asking a question, so :rolleyes: back at ya.
AllIWantIsYourClutch 09-26-2003, 10:23 PM Originally posted by ~°Sarah°~
yeah. we dont have to waste time doing things like thanking god for dinner that he didnt make in the first place. :lol:
Sorry that made me laugh.
Josh9125 09-26-2003, 10:27 PM Originally posted by ~°Sarah°~
Excuse him for not knowing every verse in the bible.
and you cant prove that john 3:16 is real. but i dont think theres even such a place as hell anyway, all ghosts stay on earth, even bad ones.
I wasn't talking to you.
Josh9125 09-26-2003, 10:28 PM Originally posted by bandito
Thanks Sarah.... Josh I was only asking a question, so :rolleyes: back at ya.
Well quit asking stupid questions and maybe I wont :rolleyes:
Hollow 09-26-2003, 10:35 PM Originally posted by Josh9125
I wasn't talking to you.
No ****. you were being an ******* and i defended bandito.
Originally posted by Josh9125
Well quit asking stupid questions and maybe I wont :rolleyes:
That statement disgusts me. What if bandito isnt a christian? how do expect to get into heaven when you're being such a damn bastard?
Josh9125 09-26-2003, 10:38 PM Originally posted by ~°Sarah°~
No ****. you were being an ******* and i defended bandito.
That statement disgusts me. What if bandito isnt a christian? how do expect to get into heaven when you're being such a damn bastard?
Excuse me... he was the one doubting me when I said I knew I was going to Heaven thats my belief and I dont care what u or him think of it. How do you expect to not keep getting banned when ur always starting trouble and being such a damn bitch?
Hollow 09-26-2003, 10:43 PM Originally posted by Josh9125
Excuse me... he was the one doubting me when I said I knew I was going to Heaven thats my belief and I dont care what u or him think of it. How do you expect to not keep getting banned when ur always starting trouble and being such a damn bitch?
You said you KNEW you weren't going to hell as if god came down and told it to your face. He asked HOW you knew because he wanted to know, smartass, he didn't say you couldnt believe you want to. :rolleyes: And i'm not always starting trouble, just because i fight doesnt mean i'm the one starting it. YOU started this by insulting bandito because he doesnt know something about christianity. and i've already been banned twice, for other reasons. :)
Josh9125 09-26-2003, 10:43 PM Anyway back on topic...this is what John 3:16 says:
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Therefore I believe and it promises ill have everlasting life. Hope that answers your question Bandito
ABlairican Pie 09-26-2003, 10:48 PM I wrote a big article on it in the Current Events board, which contained an article by a gay minister explaining a lot of things that are misunderstood and misinterpeted by Christians in the Bible. I think many christians are hypocritical with the "loving the sinner, hating the sin" BS, because everyone has seen a lot of intolerance and snide comments for people you'd THINK they'd be praying for.:rolleyes:
Josh9125 09-26-2003, 10:49 PM Originally posted by Captain ABlairica
I wrote a big article on it in the Current Events board, which contained an article by a gay minister explaining a lot of things that are misunderstood and misinterpeted by Christians in the Bible. I think many christians are hypocritical with the "loving the sinner, hating the sin" BS, because everyone has seen a lot of intolerance and snide comments for people you'd THINK they'd be praying for.:rolleyes:
:)
~LadyJess~ 09-26-2003, 11:42 PM Originally posted by Ewan's My Man
Well, I'm Catholic...yes...ROMAN Catholic...I'm sure you've all heard about us Roman Catholics...the ones who are trying SO hard to ban same sex marriages. Well, I think that is BS. It annoys the CRAP outta me that Roman Catholics wanna ban same sex marriages. I'm straight, but I don't think being a homosexual is a sin...nor do I think any less of homosexual people...and if they wanna get married I think they should go right ahead!
Well said, my thoughts exactly.
Ewan's My Man 09-26-2003, 11:49 PM Originally posted by Miss Karly
Ditto and ditttttttttttto. Although I don't go to Church anymore... but I agree w/everything Laudie said.
Yea, I haven't been to Church since Easter...but eventually my mom will start feeling really bad about it and we'll start going again.
Originally posted by Crimson and Clover
Its nice to have people like you.
:) Aw, thanks, that's one of the best compliments anyone could give me.
~*Hannah_Lee*~ 09-27-2003, 12:02 AM Originally posted by Penny Lane
You are absolutely right! The bible also names gluttony, gossiping,drunkenness, adultry, as sin also. Why do people think that homosexuality is worse than these?
It's not. According to the Bible, all sins are equal in God's eyes. I don't think people should look any different on a homosexual Christian than a Christian who may do something as simple as lie. They are equal in God's eyes.
Hollow 09-27-2003, 02:54 AM Hmm. i was just at a dance and there were some lesbians there which was the first time i've ever seen anyone who was gay. everyone i know is straight, or at least hasnt admitted to being bi/gay.
LucyFan 09-27-2003, 12:24 PM I really don't know what I am at this point. I'm so confused with my sexuality and religion. I don't know what to believe anymore because I have heard both sides to the story and each side both have good and bad points. Ug, I wish I was a girl! because I wouldn't be questioning myself at all or going on these boards but instead having the TIME of my LIFE.
*Pleasant Tomorrow* 09-27-2003, 12:28 PM Originally posted by Ewan's My Man
Well, I'm Catholic...yes...ROMAN Catholic...I'm sure you've all heard about us Roman Catholics...the ones who are trying SO hard to ban same sex marriages. Well, I think that is BS. It annoys the CRAP outta me that Roman Catholics wanna ban same sex marriages. I'm straight, but I don't think being a homosexual is a sin...nor do I think any less of homosexual people...and if they wanna get married I think they should go right ahead!
Ditto everything you said. :)
ABlairican Pie 09-27-2003, 12:37 PM Originally posted by LucyFan
I really don't know what I am at this point. I'm so confused with my sexuality and religion. I don't know what to believe anymore because I have heard both sides to the story and each side both have good and bad points. Ug, I was a girl! Life would be 100 times better.
"I hate my life and..." What word did you leave out?:confused:
Can religion change what you honestly feel inside?
JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo 09-30-2003, 11:40 AM Originally posted by .simpson_10.
i,m NOT but who are you.
someone who has been here a lot longer than you
Thanks everyone for stating their beliefs, i was just curious.
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