I think that the most annoying character of all was Beverly Ann Stickle! I hated her so much. No one could replace Mrs. G. That is just my thinking. What's yours?

I totally agree! i also didn't like pippa and that other kid. I just didn't like that season at all. The hair sucked and the show was just boring.


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Is it just me, or did mr. bradley get on anyone elses nerves? sometimes he came through and was cool, but half the time he was a you know what. i couldn't stand him. thank god they got rid of him after the first season. oh yea, and i hated mr. parker as well. Grrr..

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Thank you for agreeing with me. I hated Mr. Bradley. he really got on my nerves and I am glad they canned him after the first season. If you read the Facts of Life Survivor game, he was one of my choices to be kicked off the island. As far as Mr. Parker goes, I agree with you there as well.

I totally agree! I hated both of them too!

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It would have to be that kelly chic they brought on the show when they moved to edna's edibles. She was such a stereotype of a street kid and a waist of airtime ,she never fit in.

I agree with you, about that Kelly girl. She tried to be like Jo and she was just a loser!

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Let's not forget that delivery boy Roy who had a crush on Jo and always tried to come on to her-UGH!~! Also Jamie Gertz playing that sorority girl Boots sinclair who was like a blair clone (even blair wasn't that annoying)!

You guys are good! I forgot all about Roy and Boots. They would tie with Mr. Bradley

YEs! Roy was annoying! It was kinda funny though how jo was such a smart alek back, but she does that with blair all the time, so he was unnecasarry.


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Andy, Pippa and Beverly Ann http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/mad.gif were the most anying I think. But i agree on the Kelly Girly and on that Miko, from the "Americanization of Miko" eps was kinda annoying. It was cute how she idolized Jo though!


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i never heard of a "kelly"

~Jo RoCkS~

Jo Is My RoLe MoDeL

Kelly totally sucked! I mean she looked like a boy! She could have been a boy if not for a few things in her anatomy. she was just really dumb! I mean it was just a story to get the show goin again. They like couldn't think of anything but "Hey let's add ANOTHER character!" and boots was just flat out annoying too.


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It would have been nice to see Kelly better developed. They tried but did not succeed. However, I did like Boots. She was a trip. She made Blair look better because Boots was 20 times as worse.

Boots: "Yoo Hoo! Can Natalie come out and play?"

I totally agree! Boots did make Blair look a lot better. Boots even made Blair sick!

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Okay...here comes my list. From season one Molly annoyed me with her singing..she belonged on broadway not facts of life, season two or three Mr. Parker was horrible the way he treated Mrs. Garrett. Then the final seasons Beverly ann was ridiculous, andy was a leach and pippa was not needed. But who can forget the girl kelly who worshipped jo and ripped off the store? I would never let that girl back in my store after her robbing it!

Let me start from the first season... molly with her annoying songs...she belonged in the movie annie not facts of life, miss ohara was just not a strong character, mr. bradley was too hyper...Mr. parker was horrible to mrs. garrett, kelly who was the one who worshipped jo and ripped off edna's edibles... i never would allow her back in my store..her voice was so annoying,andy was a leach and pippa was not necessary. beverly ann who was to replace mrs garrett only made me miss mrs g more...

Without a doubt, that dumb prick Pippa. She wasn't funny or nice to look at.

I would have to say Sueann Weaver (even though i liked her a little) cause she always hogged the screen with here overacting so Nancy would get less airtime. After watching the old episodes on nick@nite i'm sorry Nancy didn't get a chance to show her talents more until it was too late in the 2nd season. she should of been one of the survivor's of the first season.

I would have to say that Kelly was one of the most annoying. She was uneeded in the show and she just sucked up the other characters air time!
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I wish Pippa would have went back to Austrailia...and taken Beverly Anne with her!

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I know for sure i am not going to like beverly ann!!! Mrs. garrett is my favorite character and how is the show going to be without my favorite character!!! I mean if they were going to continue the show without mrs. garrett they should have just left beverly ann out!! the girls could have did it on their own!! i mean they never ever ever even mentioned in any episode that mrs. garrett had a sister, and then waht does she jsut appear out of thin air? now, i have never seen an episode without mrs. garrett yet, and i am going to be sad watching the episode where she leaves, but they should have just let the girls runt he business on their own or sell it or soemthign i dont thinkt hey needed beverly ann!!

Beverly Ann pretty much sucked! Andy was alright but they could have done without him. Boots was annoying but also kinda funny in a wierd way because she was so ditzy and dumb, she made you laugh with her ablilty to be so perky. Miko was a wierd excuse for a character, she didnt go along with the show to much.

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Kelley is annoying! She definetely was a waste of space. Jo should of kicked her ass when she took that $50. That would of been awesome!
Beverly Ann is just as bad. So was Roy,and that Pippa girl. What was she there for?

I thought Boots was really annoying, and also, I like Pippa, well I dunno if I used to I cant remember , but I do now, because I listen to her music and have met her in real life, she is country singer sherrie austin, shes kool, but as fro the show I guesss she wasnt really needed but it was herr ticket from australia

Whoever said Roy is SO right. I couldn't stand to watch him. And Kelly.... UGH! What gave her the right to actually earn her name in the opening credits? What development genius decided to add her character to the show? Haven't seen enough Pippa episodes in the last 10 years to make an accurate judgement. I'll have to get back to you on that one, although it doesn't look good. Andy never bothered me, I think I even used to really like him when I watched when I was younger. And Beverly Ann is no Mrs. G, but she was definitely not the worst thing to happen to the show. Boots was funny, we got to see how bad Blair COULD'VE been.

I don't know what you all are thinking!!! Boots was the best character. The whole "Natalie wanting to be mature and trying to fit in while dissing Tootie in the process" was a great episode (weren't most of the episodes about that anyway). But Boots makes this episode the best. She's so funny and annoying that you have to like her. She's an awfully good character...she's so awful, she's good.

BOOTS ALL THE WAY!!!

i hated beverly anne! she sucked! i hate her! how could she even be related to mrs.g!!!!!! i mean ewww! botts was sooo annoying! and kelly was annoying too!

I completly agree, Jo! She was possibly the worst character to pick! (well maybe not the worst, but close enough)

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definatly all the girls in the first season exept nat and tootie

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Boots was annoying, but in a funny way. I would have liked to have seen her make more appearances. Roy tops everyone in being annoying. I couldn't stand him. He wasn't even laughably funny. And Kelly. I too wonder how she got her name in the opening credits? Anyway if she was able to do that, I say way to go Pamela!(Kelly) I would be jumping for joy if I had a co star billing.

Whoever that M. Astin kid played...Geez, he got on my nerves.

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BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Boots is an annoying uh whats that word oh yeah.......LOSER!!

ms. O'hara.. she was always telling mr. bradley what to do.... when he was the headmaster and she was just a teahcer.... yeah and mr. parker was a P****. i also hated cindy

Roy, the delivery boy. I enjoyed watching Rick better. At least Rick was funny.


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Jo should have beaten up Kelly! She went over to her apartment to threaten her, she should have beaten the crap out of her....

Beverly Ann, Andy and Pippa should've gone right out the door as well......useless bunch.

I think Bev Ann can be annoying somtimes.

I, gulp, thought that, gulp, TOOTIE, gulp, gulp, gulp, was most, gulp, annoying of them all. She talked way too much! Didn't she ever take time to breathe. It was always yap, yap, yap, yap.

I think Beverly Ann was the most annoying. Sure, I got used to her, but she was no Mrs. Garrett. Andy wasn't too bad, and I thought Pippa was kinda cute, but useless.

Mr. Bradley was the most annoying. You remember when he started that rivalry between Suanne and Cindy. He was always pestering Mrs. Garrett. To me, he was full of Hot air.

Originally posted by FOL85NatandMrsGRock
I know for sure i am not going to like beverly ann!!! Mrs. garrett is my favorite character and how is the show going to be without my favorite character!!! I mean if they were going to continue the show without mrs. garrett they should have just left beverly ann out!! the girls could have did it on their own!! i mean they never ever ever even mentioned in any episode that mrs. garrett had a sister, and then waht does she jsut appear out of thin air? now, i have never seen an episode without mrs. garrett yet, and i am going to be sad watching the episode where she leaves, but they should have just let the girls runt he business on their own or sell it or soemthign i dont thinkt hey needed beverly ann!!

I thought this was an interesting post to bump back up and just wanted to comment on Sarah's post. In the epsidoe of Diff'rent Strokes when they go to Portland to meet larry, Mrs. Garrett does mention Beverly Ann. She said while the Drummond's were in Portland, she was going to visit her sister Beverly in Seattle. She probably knows this by now, but I just wanted to show anybody else who didn't know. -shrugs-

As for the most annoying character for me, I'd have to either go with Kelly or Roy. Now Roy was a deliverly boy so I understand why he could have been at Eastland, but there was really no point in adding Kelly, even if it was for that one season. She didn't do anything and I thought that Edna's Edibles as long as the show could have survived without her.

Originally posted by Devastation26
I, gulp, thought that, gulp, TOOTIE, gulp, gulp, gulp, was most, gulp, annoying of them all. She talked way too much! Didn't she ever take time to breathe. It was always yap, yap, yap, yap.


I agree-Tootie annoyed the piss out of me. She's always scwelling. Mrs.G could get on my nerves sometimes.

I liked Mr.Bradley he was pretty cool. But I could NOT stand that female teacher the first season whateve her name was. Also Molly, and the other girl from the 1st season (I can NEVER remember her name for some reason)- she looked like a tomboy. But Molly bugged me a lot. IMO NM..I just saw her name was Cindy. And it was Mrs.OHara lol ICK!

Molly, Roy, and Kelly are annoying to me.

I never liked that Kevin (I think that was his name) guy that was in a few Edna's Edibles episodes. I remember he lived in the attic, and I can't remember why he was even in the show in the first place. I guess he was like Andy; they wanted more guys in the show so they added him and he was completley pointless. But I agree with everyone else that I hated Kelly, Pippa, and Andy.

Originally posted by Jenny
Molly, Roy, and Kelly are annoying to me

My thoughts exactly, Roy was okay, Kelly always showed up at various parts of some of the episodes, which I didn't like. And Molly always was always the chatter-box.

Roy was SUPPOSED TO be annoying!!! In a good way. But sometimes the show got a little carried away, just like they did on Happy Days when they HADTAHADTAHADTA introduce a smart-alecky "Chachi"-type character. Like Andy. And Kelly. Not that they were annoying to me, but the whole concept of having a character trying to sound so hip with one-liners and not having any real importance to the show.

Beverly Ann!

Beverly Ann annoyed the crap outta me so did Boots. I'd have to say Roy Kelly ans Pippa were even on annoying me

I think the most annoying character in the ENTIRE show was Blair Warner. I just can not stand her. I wish the producers/writers kept Molly instead and got rid of Blair in the second season. But oh well . . .

BLAIR RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SURRENDER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

Beverly Ann

Originally posted by Devastation26
I, gulp, thought that, gulp, TOOTIE, gulp, gulp, gulp, was most, gulp, annoying of them all. She talked way too much! Didn't she ever take time to breathe. It was always yap, yap, yap, yap. That was way too much gulping, Seth. :lol:

But anyway, I think the most annoying character is probably Pippa. I don't know.. I just never liked her.

Originally posted by LucyFan
I wish the producers/writers kept Molly instead and got rid of Blair in the second season. But oh well . . .

If they kept Molly, there probably wouldn't have been a 3rd season. Remember, it was basically Blair/Jo that kept it going with the bickering

Pippa!!!! go back to austraila!

Originally posted by Kay Scarpetta
If they kept Molly, there probably wouldn't have been a 3rd season. Remember, it was basically Blair/Jo that kept it going with the bickering

That is part of the reason why Blair annoys me. The bickering got old and stale after awhile. Poor Mrs. Garrett, she should have moved back to the Drummond's.

Molly and Boots were the most annoying. Molly 'cause of all her non-stop talking and Boots 'cause of her non-stop preppy attitude.

Blair and Jo's bickering got old and stale??? To that I say, CONFLICT IS THE ESSENCE OF DRAMA. Without conflict, you have no drama--nor comedy. And besides, the Blair/Jo conflict WAS pretty darned funny.:lol:

Ummm... Pippa. Hello.

I couldn't stand Pippa.her accent drove me crazy!!

My Top 10 Most Annoying Characters on The Facts of Life:

1. Molly Parker
2. Kelly Affinado
3. Pippa McKenna
4. Boots St. Clair
5. Andy Moffet
6. Tootie Ramsey
7. Beverly Ann
8. Roy
9. Steven Bradley
10. Kevin Metcalf

I didn't like Eddie because in the episode where Tootie found out he was married, everybody made a big deal over him coming and staying with them for a week while he was on leave from the Navy.

I sorta thought the whole first season was annoying...just the way they all talked, Tootie and Nat were ok...but those darn rollerskates.......

boots yuck

Actually all the characters were really getting on my nerves at times here's the list and remember i am entitled to my opinion too, cause I know some of you may not like this:

Tootie: Over reacting (in earlier seasons), jumping around, heavy breathing.

Pippa: Let's just say everything. should i say rag off you daggy veggie brain.

Mrs. Garrett: The early season's hair, come on how much uglier can that get. Plus her voice, that at times got real annoying.

Natalie: that head nodding thinggy she always does when responding to things, mostly in earlier seasons.

Andy: brat in the later episodes, really trying to be cool, but isn't.

The list above is just the annoying things in the characters/actresses, the bottom list is a list of people who portayed their character's great, no flaws.
I feel the other characters had no flaws, (person who portrayed them), like Lisa, Nancy, Cloris, Charlotte (remember i just hated her hair and voice). Mindy did a excellent job too just when she didn't do the head nod thinggy.

Oh another thing that really annoys me is when in all sitcoms at least one episode, a character says: Nobody ever listens to me/people just aren't interested in what i say) and the other person says: huh what was that i wasn't listening.

I hate that, and most sitcoms do that lame old joke, i think FOL did it in

a couple eps.

Originally posted by donald snl
boots yuck

I think Boots was funny. She would say stupid things when she left a room like: "Woosh!" I guess that's her way of saying "Good-Bye" or "See ya later." But, at times, she was annoying. I HATED it when she called Blair "Warn-sy." I would say to myself: "Call her Blair or shut-up!" :lol:

She called Blair "Warnsie" because she was being one of those shallow preppies from back east. That was all part of preppie culture (preppie=prep school). Or maybe I'm thinking of yuppie. Yuppies were the big deal back in the 80's. I thought Boots was hilarious!:lol:

pippa was the worst...
she was just sooo annoying!

whoever said natalie and that head nodding thing your totally right. i was watching episodes last night and im like yelling at my tv, like, stop it!!:rolleyes:

Boots! Her prissiness got on my nerves...

Roy was SUPPOSED TO be annoying!!! In a good way.

THANK you Captain ABlairica!!

I can't understand why more "Facts" fans don't see this---he's WRITTEN as annoying, as a FOIL for Jo, which makes the audience laugh! :D

We should rename this thread, "Who was the most annoying character who was not written to be purposefully annoying?", so as to save Roy from these remarks. lol :p

Roy was SUPPOSED TO be annoying!!! In a good way. But sometimes the show got a little carried away, just like they did on Happy Days when they HADTAHADTAHADTA introduce a smart-alecky "Chachi"-type character. Like Andy. And Kelly. Not that they were annoying to me, but the whole concept of having a character trying to sound so hip with one-liners and not having any real importance to the show.
Yeah, Roy was supposed to be annoying (not to mention totally clueless) - and that he was!! When he planted that kiss on Jo in the graduation episode, I wish they hadn't faded right into another scene - because I would've LOVED to see Jo give him a knee in a very sensitive place. THAT would've wiped that stupid smile off his face. *evil laugh*

Then again, Roy was only in about 6 or 7 episodes so he was hardly a main character. Of the main characters (at least at the outset), Molly Parker wins most annoying - hands down. I can totally see why she was one of the girls to get the boot when the show was retooled. Who would've thought that just a few years later, Molly Ringwald would become THE movie teen queen of the 80s? To watch her run on FOL, I never would've believed it.

Yes, Mr. Bradley and Mr. Parker were highly irritating as well. Thank goodness they didn't last long, either!!

Wow, you bumped this, and I responded 7 years ago. Holy cow. I just have to say that I do not agree with what I originally said. haha.

Wow, you bumped this, and I responded 7 years ago. Holy cow. I just have to say that I do not agree with what I originally said. haha.
Well, you're always allowed to change your mind. :cool:

Yeah, Roy was supposed to be annoying (not to mention totally clueless) - and that he was!! When he planted that kiss on Jo in the graduation episode, I wish they hadn't faded right into another scene - because I would've LOVED to see Jo give him a knee in a very sensitive place. THAT would've wiped that stupid smile off his face. *evil laugh*

Then again, Roy was only in about 6 or 7 episodes so he was hardly a main character. Of the main characters (at least at the outset), Molly Parker wins most annoying - hands down. I can totally see why she was one of the girls to get the boot when the show was retooled. Who would've thought that just a few years later, Molly Ringwald would become THE movie teen queen of the 80s? To watch her run on FOL, I never would've believed it.

Yes, Mr. Bradley and Mr. Parker were highly irritating as well. Thank goodness they didn't last long, either!!


While we are on the topic of Molly Rindwald, I would like to mention an incident from "The Breakfast Club". I remember when the group of deliquent students was sitting in a circle and everyone was naming a talent that he or she had that they thought that the other kids might find interesting or impressive. I believe that it was Molly's character who demonstrated how she could apply lipstick with the tube between her bosoms! Wow!

The teacher from the first season was Miss Mahoney played by Jenny O'Hara. She wasn't necessary. The cast was already too huge. She could have been a recurring character like if they want to show a teacher.

I have to say a few things i don t agree with:
First of all, BLAIR was nothing like BOOTS (we all know it s just on the outside when on the inside she s "warm" + "kind")
Second, MR. BRADLEY & MR. PARKER added some fun to the show (they got on MRS. G s nerves + she was hilarious argumenting with them)
Third, KELLY was a great actress (a "tomboy" like JO + she gave BLAIR a hard time so double trouble for WARNER lol!)
Fourth & last, BOOTS was a good adding to the show cos it gave BLAIR the opportunity to show her good side (she dropped out of "gamma gamma" cos she realized what a snob BOOTS was as well as manipulative towards NAT)
PS: any comments on that one?:p

I have to agree with a few of you:
1st of all, NANCY never got a chance to develop her character, after all, she was supposed to be the main one right?
2d, BLAIR really made the show on season 1(along with MRS. G of course) so i m glad they kept her!
3d, BOOTS was a good adding to the show cos she clashed with BLAIR & made her look good compared to her.
4d, KELLY was great & i feel it s a shame they let her go....
5fh & last, BEVERLY ANN, ANDY + PIPPA were absolutely a waste of time!:eek:

Ok i have to put an end to this:
First of all, BLAIR was one of the best charcters of the show (she was the main one on season 1) & how could you not like her?! She was such a complex person who always surprised the audience when she changed from "NAUGHTY" to "KIND HEARTED"!
2d & last, MRS. G was fantastic & certainly not a pain!

Tootie. To this day I still can't stand her.

well i loved beverly ann, pippa, and andy!! i didnt care for that girl kelly from season 5, i will take seasons 5-9 any day over seasons 1-4, which most of the time were boring, and if you dont like andy then you must not like seasons 6-9 because he started in season 6.

well i loved beverly ann, pippa, and andy!! i didnt care for that girl kelly from season 5, i will take seasons 5-9 any day over seasons 1-4, which most of the time were boring, and if you dont like andy then you must not like seasons 6-9 because he started in season 6.

SEASON 1 to 4 had one of the deepest subjects, whereas 7, 8 + 9 were just funny but no deep part on it: i am one of those people who likes substance in a sitcom, not just laugh! BEVERLY ANN lacked of the deepness MRS. G had + she was just a joke! The only reason i watched seasons 7 to 9 was because of BLAIR s & JO s strong friendship (certainly not because of BEVERLY ANN making a fool of herself & acting like an immature person!)

I've been watching my homemade copies of the later seasons that I downloaded and I'm almost done with Season 8. I actually like Beverly Ann, Andy, and George and don't have a problem with them at all. I haven't gotten to 9 yet, but I'm sure Pippa won't be too bad for me either. I like them all better than most of the Season 1 cast, though they weren't that bad but just didn't really fit the show well. I like all the main 4 girls. The other girls from Season 1 were ok, but would have been better off as recurring characters, like they did when they made a few small appearances in Seasons 2-3. Mr.Bradley wasn't so bad, but I don't see the purpose in Ms. Mahoney. Mr. Parker was pretty good and should have been on longer. No one can take Mrs. Garrett's place, but Beverly Ann was a decent character.

I've been watching my homemade copies of the later seasons that I downloaded and I'm almost done with Season 8. I actually like Beverly Ann, Andy, and George and don't have a problem with them at all. I haven't gotten to 9 yet, but I'm sure Pippa won't be too bad for me either. I like them all better than most of the Season 1 cast, though they weren't that bad but just didn't really fit the show well. I like all the main 4 girls. The other girls from Season 1 were ok, but would have been better off as recurring characters, like they did when they made a few small appearances in Seasons 2-3. Mr.Bradley wasn't so bad, but I don't see the purpose in Ms. Mahoney. Mr. Parker was pretty good and should have been on longer. No one can take Mrs. Garrett's place, but Beverly Ann was a decent character.
I second that.

For me, the most annoying characters were a tie between Pippa and Kelly.

First of all, I can't believe this thread is 18 years old. I remember chatting with some of the members here during that time. Of course, I was a toddler then :lol: Sad some of these members have left SO. Second, Beverly Ann for me wasn't annoying but she really wasn't needed. I don't understand why the show didn't just leave it with the main 4. Before Beverly Ann was added, there were tons of episodes where the main 4 carried the show without Charlotte Rae present. I can only think the reason Beverly Ann was added is because they didn't want to lose viewers when Charlotte left so they wanted a big name in the series. In season 8, Cloris was awesome as Beverly Ann. The writers made her character perfect. In season 9 though, she was wasted. She only had one episode dedicated to her character. She wasn't shown as much in season 9 and was just there for filler like Pippa and Andy. Plus Beverly Ann wasn't as funny that last season. This is another reason why the writers should have left Beverly Ann, Andy, and Pippa out of the series. Their characters served no purpose that final season. Season 8 should have shown Beverly Ann and Andy leaving at the end instead of Jo with Pippa never being created that final season. The writers and producers knew Mindy and Nancy were leaving at the end of season 9 so instead of creating filler like they did, it should have been more driven to the ending of these 4 main characters the fans grew up with.

The only character that annoyed me was Molly. I was glad they got rid of her. I do wish they would have kept Nancy, Sue Ann, and Cindy around longer than they did. Their characters weren't that bad. I don't feel like Nancy ever got the character development that the other first season girls had. Nancy was always shown as a melodramatic teenage girl over her relationship with Roger. There was never any depth to who Nancy was.

First of all, I can't believe this thread is 18 years old. I remember chatting with some of the members here during that time. Of course, I was a toddler then :lol:

Haha! :lol:

Second, Beverly Ann for me wasn't annoying but she really wasn't needed. I don't understand why the show didn't just leave it with the main 4. Before Beverly Ann was added, there were tons of episodes where the main 4 carried the show without Charlotte Rae present. I can only think the reason Beverly Ann was added is because they didn't want to lose viewers when Charlotte left so they wanted a big name in the series. In season 8, Cloris was awesome as Beverly Ann. The writers made her character perfect. In season 9 though, she was wasted. She only had one episode dedicated to her character. She wasn't shown as much in season 9 and was just there for filler like Pippa and Andy. Plus Beverly Ann wasn't as funny that last season. This is another reason why the writers should have left Beverly Ann, Andy, and Pippa out of the series. Their characters served no purpose that final season. Season 8 should have shown Beverly Ann and Andy leaving at the end instead of Jo with Pippa never being created that final season. The writers and producers knew Mindy and Nancy were leaving at the end of season 9 so instead of creating filler like they did, it should have been more driven to the ending of these 4 main characters the fans grew up with.

Thanks for the response, Christopher!

It was weird that the writers kept focusing on other characters, when they knew the cast would be going their separate ways at the end of the season. As you say, wrapping up Jo and Natalie's storylines, and giving the audience closure, were important. I don't think we got that, at least for Natalie, Tootie, and Jo.

I did like the fact that the show ended at Eastland, where it began. It would have been more cool, however, if Blair had walked into the Season One dorm.



The only character that annoyed me was Molly. I was glad they got rid of her. I do wish they would have kept Nancy, Sue Ann, and Cindy around longer than they did. Their characters weren't that bad. I don't feel like Nancy ever got the character development that the other first season girls had. Nancy was always shown as a melodramatic teenage girl over her relationship with Roger. There was never any depth to who Nancy was.

Yes, without Roger on camera, they couldn't really develop a big part of who Nancy was. And some of Nancy's lines ended up on the cutting room floor (You can see Felice's role literally being trimmed down by comparing the syndication edit of "Overachieving" to the original version).

The only part of Molly that annoyed me was the feminist role, which felt stilted and oddly written; I did like the fact that... here was this young girl who was experimenting with cameras, HAM radio, and journalism. It was important, in that era, to show girls could try "boys'" hobbies (as important it is today). The 'feminist' part was ham-fisted, but that could have been toned down, and Molly could have represented girl power without getting soapboxy about it.

It was weird that the writers kept focusing on other characters, when they knew the cast would be going their separate ways at the end of the season. As you say, wrapping up Jo and Natalie's storylines, and giving the audience closure, were important. I don't think we got that, at least for Natalie, Tootie, and Jo.

I did like the fact that the show ended at Eastland, where it began. It would have been more cool, however, if Blair had walked into the Season One dorm.



It wasn't that they were being focused on, it was that they weren't part of the main 4's storylines. In season 8, Beverly Ann's character worked with the main 4. She was part of their lives. That's why I like her there in season 8. In season 9, the main 4 started going their separate ways. Andy was rarely ever there in season 9. Beverly Ann's scenes had nothing to do with the main 4 when she would show up. Plus the main 4 weren't part of each other's lives that much. That last season didn't click well. It was a shame because season 8 was pure gold like seasons 2 and 6 with the laughter and chemistry. I would have assumed season 9 would have continued that route.

Speaking of Eastland dorms, why didn't they show the school cafeteria that we saw for 3 years in that last episode? It wasn't really a good closure since they created a new set for Eastland. I would have rather seen the 1st season dorm or the school cafeteria.


The only part of Molly that annoyed me was the feminist role, which felt stilted and oddly written; I did like the fact that... here was this young girl who was experimenting with cameras, HAM radio, and journalism. It was important, in that era, to show girls could try "boys'" hobbies (as important it is today). The 'feminist' part was ham-fisted, but that could have been toned down, and Molly could have represented girl power without getting soapboxy about it.


I think majority of my dislike is Molly Ringwald. Even in Riverdale, she doesn't act that well. A lot of her delivery seems forced instead of natural. It's surprising because Mindy had zero acting experience and I feel she did a better job at acting than Molly in The Facts of Life.

It wasn't that they were being focused on, it was that they weren't part of the main 4's storylines. In season 8, Beverly Ann's character worked with the main 4. She was part of their lives. That's why I like her there in season 8. In season 9, the main 4 started going their separate ways. Andy was rarely ever there in season 9. Beverly Ann's scenes had nothing to do with the main 4 when she would show up. Plus the main 4 weren't part of each other's lives that much. That last season didn't click well.

Great analysis. I think by this point, the writers had mostly given up, and Mindy was literally phoning in her last episode.


Speaking of Eastland dorms, why didn't they show the school cafeteria that we saw for 3 years in that last episode?

The episode was also supposed to serve as a backdoor pilot for a new series, which presumably wouldn't have the new students scrubbing pots and sweeping floors in a cafeteria... that had already been done to death: first in the cafeteria, then in the bakery, then in the store.


It wasn't really a good closure since they created a new set for Eastland. I would have rather seen the 1st season dorm or the school cafeteria.

Same here!


I think majority of my dislike is Molly Ringwald. Even in Riverdale, she doesn't act that well. A lot of her delivery seems forced instead of natural. It's surprising because Mindy had zero acting experience and I feel she did a better job at acting than Molly in The Facts of Life.

Well, to be fair, Molly never had a second season of FOL in which to improve. It's sort of comparing apples and oranges: Molly in a few episodes, or Mindy over an eight-year run.

Molly is a competent actress when given good material and a good director. Admittedly, I haven't seen Riverdale.

Great analysis.


Another point I saw with Pippa's character was how often she was shun by the main 4. There's a few times when Pippa tried to get close to the girls to talk about issues they were going through and they would kick her out. The excuse was there would be more girl talk in the morning or it was too private for her to be apart of. They didn't treat Tootie that way when she was Pippa's age. More importantly, that wasn't how Mrs. Garrett treated the main 4 at that age. It was almost as if the writers wanted a character there for the main 4 to treat as an outsider. If the writing for Pippa's character showed her building a bond with the main 4 being accepted, I think fans might have a different view of Pippa. Due to the course the writers took however, Pippa was just useless to have around. The main 4 didn't want her there and neither did the fans.

The episode was also supposed to serve as a backdoor pilot for a new series, which presumably wouldn't have the new students scrubbing pots and sweeping floors in a cafeteria... that had already been done to death: first in the cafeteria, then in the bakery, then in the store.


The scene where Blair is walking with Pippa in the dorm could have taken place in the cafeteria or the first season dorm instead. They brought the cafeteria set back for the reunion movie. It could have been used one last time in the final episode IMO.

Another point I saw with Pippa's character was how often she was shun by the main 4. There's a few times when Pippa tried to get close to the girls to talk about issues they were going through and they would kick her out. The excuse was there would be more girl talk in the morning or it was too private for her to be apart of. They didn't treat Tootie that way when she was Pippa's age. More importantly, that wasn't how Mrs. Garrett treated the main 4 at that age. It was almost as if the writers wanted a character there for the main 4 to treat as an outsider. If the writing for Pippa's character showed her building a bond with the main 4 being accepted, I think fans might have a different view of Pippa. Due to the course the writers took however, Pippa was just useless to have around. The main 4 didn't want her there and neither did the fans.

You know, I hadn't thought about it, but you are right. Pippa felt so extraneous, but a lot of that is how the writers wrote the scenes.


The scene where Blair is walking with Pippa in the dorm could have taken place in the cafeteria or the first season dorm instead. They brought the cafeteria set back for the reunion movie. It could have been used one last time in the final episode IMO.

I would have loved to have seen either the S1 dorm or the S2 cafeteria. Either would have been so iconic, and taken fans' breath away, at the end of the series. I don't think the writers or producers even cared much, by that point.

I was hugely surprised when Kim Fields picked the S1 dorm to be reconstructed for her Dancing with the Stars dance, but it was a VERY pleasant surprise!

The most annoying character for me was Blair. She was the epitome of a Mean Girl and I hate bullies/mean girls. Jo was mean and can be a bully as well but I related to her much more than I related to Blair Warner. Jo had other redeemable qualities that i liked i.e. (strong, independent, hard-working, tomboy). Blair got better later on down the series but i still relate to her THE LEAST.

Kelly, Andy, Pippa, George, Beverly Ann.

Kelly, Andy, Pippa, George, Beverly Ann.


Well, speaking for myself, of those mentioned, at least Beverly Ann actually made me :lol: sometimes. The others, probably never.

Well, speaking for myself, of those mentioned, at least Beverly Ann actually made me :lol: sometimes. The others, probably never.

The writers did their best with Beverly Ann, but no one could replace Mrs. Garrett.

A fact that rings true tonight. :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Yup. It always seemed silly part of the reason she left is that they had run out of things to write for her (or they just stopped writing for her), yet as soon as she's leaving they bring in another middle-aged lady to watch over the girls. :confused:

(and I see you used 8 sad faces, appropriately for each of her 8 girls)

Yup. It always seemed silly part of the reason she left is that they had run out of things to write for her (or they just stopped writing for her), yet as soon as she's leaving they bring in another middle-aged lady to watch over the girls. :confused:

YES. I don't know what they were thinking.


(and I see you used 8 sad faces, appropriately for each of her 8 girls)

I knew you would understand.

The most annoying character for me was Blair. She was the epitome of a Mean Girl and I hate bullies/mean girls. Jo was mean and can be a bully as well but I related to her much more than I related to Blair Warner. Jo had other redeemable qualities that i liked i.e. (strong, independent, hard-working, tomboy). Blair got better later on down the series but i still relate to her THE LEAST.


Blair, a mean girl? She was never portrayed as a mean girl on the show. She cared too much about others to be mean. She did more nice things than mean things on the series. Jo was definitely a bully. She liked threatening people to get her way. I consider Jo to be more the mean girl than Blair.

Blair, a mean girl? She was never portrayed as a mean girl on the show. She cared too much about others to be mean. She did more nice things than mean things on the series. Jo was definitely a bully. She liked threatening people to get her way. I consider Jo to be more the mean girl than Blair.

She was mainly the mean girl in the DS pilot

Se was mainly the mean girl in the DS pilot


Her character did a 180 from the pilot to the second or third episode of the first season. She went from being a badass to just a snob that cared about people in her own way. She always apologized to people she hurt that she didn't mean to. Now if Blair had stayed the way from the pilot to the first episode with Jo, I don't think they would have clashed so much. I think they would have done bad things together since they had similarities.

Blair was mean. Jo was mean. They all were mean, in one episode or another.

Of course they were mean---they were teenage girls!

:joke:

I'm about to start Season 4 and so far the most annoying character has been Tootie, followed by Natalie at times