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TVFactFan
08-24-2003, 09:14 PM
These are not spinoffs

Out of the Blue
Archie Bunkers Place
704 Hauser Street
Sanford
Good Times

I am Roboto
08-25-2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
These are not spinoffs

Out of the Blue
Archie Bunkers Place
704 Hauser Street
Sanford
Good Times

Is Three's A Crowd a spin-off or a continuation? I would think it would be the latter, as it continued to follow the life of Jack Tripper, thus continuing the story line of Three's Company. ABP did the same thing. Wouldn't TAC qualify as a continuation?

Mr. Television
08-25-2003, 05:20 PM
Out Of The Blue is not a spinoff.

TVFactFan
08-25-2003, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by cheers_rules
Is Three's A Crowd a spin-off or a continuation? I would think it would be the latter, as it continued to follow the life of Jack Tripper, thus continuing the story line of Three's Company. ABP did the same thing. Wouldn't TAC qualify as a continuation?

Yes i guess you can consider TAC a continuation since it followed the life of the main character. Now if Janet or Terri was just in a show with new characters then it would be a spinoff

TVFactFan
08-25-2003, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by mr roper
Out Of The Blue is not a spinoff.


Are you asking if Out of The Blue is a spinoff? If you are, No Out of the Blue is not a spinoff

Mr. Television
08-25-2003, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Are you asking if Out of The Blue is a spinoff? If you are, No Out of the Blue is not a spinoff I'm ageeing with you. Out of the Blue is not a spinoff.

Brian Damage
08-25-2003, 08:12 PM
Good Times is a spinoff. Nice Try Solomon.

*PinkLady*
08-25-2003, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
Good Times is a spinoff. Nice Try Solomon.

:lol:

TVFactFan
08-25-2003, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
Good Times is a spinoff. Nice Try Solomon.


A Spinoff in your world

Brian Damage
08-26-2003, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
A Spinoff in your world

My world is called The Real World...come join us one day.

Kitt
08-26-2003, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
My world is called The Real World...come join us one day. :lol: The never ending saga of *drumroll please* Solomon's World.
Good Times is a spinoff.:wave:

*PinkLady*
08-26-2003, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
My world is called The Real World...come join us one day.

Yeah, you might like it here.

Brian
08-26-2003, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by *~PinkLady59~*
Yeah, you might like it here.


:lol:

ThomasE
08-28-2003, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
Good Times is a spinoff. Nice Try Solomon. :lol:

Well, it's nice to know that things have not changed since my last posting on the board(which was three months ago.) Let's face it, guys, SOLOMON is gonna continue to debate us with this theory. I know Good Times is a fractured spinoff. How's everyone? Hey,SOLOMON, go ahead and drop me a line. I know that I have some 'splainin' to do. LOL I'll let you know why I have not been around. I know we were negotiating a tape trade.

LucyFan
09-14-2003, 02:03 AM
GOOD TIMES IS A SPIN-OFF. IN FACT, IT'S A SPIN-OFF OF A SPIN-OFF. CASE CLOSED!

TVFactFan
09-14-2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by LucyFan
GOOD TIMES IS A SPIN-OFF. IN FACT, IT'S A SPIN-OFF OF A SPIN-OFF. CASE CLOSED!


Unless you have proof backing up your statement, it means nothing

Brian Damage
09-14-2003, 10:46 AM
Did you send me that article yet? I'm looking forward to dissecting it. "It's not REALLY a spinoff." Translation: Even though we'd like it to be a show far away from Maude, Florida Evans is still a character from that show so it is. THe End

TVFactFan
09-14-2003, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
Did you send me that article yet? I'm looking forward to dissecting it. "It's not REALLY a spinoff." Translation: Even though we'd like it to be a show far away from Maude, Florida Evans is still a character from that show so it is. THe End


I'm going to send it tomorrow because I didn't have a extra copy and i was not at work this week to make extra copies. So tomorrow I will mail out the article.

Brian Damage
09-14-2003, 11:42 AM
704 Hauser Street was a Spinoff!

First of all, it's a spin off in which, none of the main characters ever appeared in any way shape or form on the original show. Instead it's the location that ties the new show to the old - the house where the Bunker family lived. The only character tie to the old show was in the first episode when Joey Stivic, Archie Bunker's grandson, came by to visit his grandparents' former home.

704 Hauser Street was a sitcom about a black family that was living in Archie Bunker's former home. The idea was to make a show very much like All In The Family but updating it for a new generation.

All the characters were almost polar opposites of the original Bunkers. Unlike the Bunkers, in this family the father, Ernie Cumberbatch, was the liberal. His wife Rose was no "dingbat" but very sharp. Instead of a liberal daughter and her liberal husband, they had a conservative son and his wife. In this case, though, while the main family was black, the son's wife was white and Jewish. Dad might have been liberal but apparently everyone has their limits and that was Dad's. Thus you still got a similar mix of tensions between the two male leads as in All In The Family but in a new way.

Another reason this spin off is a pisser is this: not only was it a spin off based on a spun off location rather than a spun off character, it also came years after the original show was cancelled. I think you can count on one hand the shows that have had spin offs post-cancellation. And unfortunately, most of them had about as much success as 704 Hauser - none. After a five episode trial run and appeals from producer Norman Lear for people to watch and the network to give it more of a shot, it was cancelled. A shame because the episodes I saw of it were pretty funny. When the original All In The Family debut, it took some time to find an audience as well. It just happened that 704 Hauser hit the air at a time when networks were not in a mood to nurture shows to success. If a show didn't hit quickly, it was history.

Interestingly, the father on the show was played by John Amos who also starred as the father in a spin off of a spin off of All In The Family: Good Times.

Norman Lears inspiration for the show was that he for some reason had kept all the sets from All In The Family in storage for years. The company storing the sets called to ask him if he wanted to continue to store them and he suddenly had to ask himself why he was holding on to them. He was struck that if he was going to the trouble of keeping them, why not use them? And that's when he got inspired for an All In The Family update.

Kind of sad that it didn't work, considering it was a much more intelligent spin off attempt than the last try they had made (Gloria). I think the title might have hurt it as far as recognition goes. I'm not sure how many people realized 704 Hauser was Archie Bunker's old address. Higher recognition of its connection to All In The Family may have broaden its audience.

TVFactFan
09-14-2003, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
704 Hauser Street was a Spinoff!

First of all, it's a spin off in which, none of the main characters ever appeared in any way shape or form on the original show. Instead it's the location that ties the new show to the old - the house where the Bunker family lived. The only character tie to the old show was in the first episode when Joey Stivic, Archie Bunker's grandson, came by to visit his grandparents' former home.

704 Hauser Street was a sitcom about a black family that was living in Archie Bunker's former home. The idea was to make a show very much like All In The Family but updating it for a new generation.

All the characters were almost polar opposites of the original Bunkers. Unlike the Bunkers, in this family the father, Ernie Cumberbatch, was the liberal. His wife Rose was no "dingbat" but very sharp. Instead of a liberal daughter and her liberal husband, they had a conservative son and his wife. In this case, though, while the main family was black, the son's wife was white and Jewish. Dad might have been liberal but apparently everyone has their limits and that was Dad's. Thus you still got a similar mix of tensions between the two male leads as in All In The Family but in a new way.

Another reason this spin off is a pisser is this: not only was it a spin off based on a spun off location rather than a spun off character, it also came years after the original show was cancelled. I think you can count on one hand the shows that have had spin offs post-cancellation. And unfortunately, most of them had about as much success as 704 Hauser - none. After a five episode trial run and appeals from producer Norman Lear for people to watch and the network to give it more of a shot, it was cancelled. A shame because the episodes I saw of it were pretty funny. When the original All In The Family debut, it took some time to find an audience as well. It just happened that 704 Hauser hit the air at a time when networks were not in a mood to nurture shows to success. If a show didn't hit quickly, it was history.

Interestingly, the father on the show was played by John Amos who also starred as the father in a spin off of a spin off of All In The Family: Good Times.

Norman Lears inspiration for the show was that he for some reason had kept all the sets from All In The Family in storage for years. The company storing the sets called to ask him if he wanted to continue to store them and he suddenly had to ask himself why he was holding on to them. He was struck that if he was going to the trouble of keeping them, why not use them? And that's when he got inspired for an All In The Family update.

Kind of sad that it didn't work, considering it was a much more intelligent spin off attempt than the last try they had made (Gloria). I think the title might have hurt it as far as recognition goes. I'm not sure how many people realized 704 Hauser was Archie Bunker's old address. Higher recognition of its connection to All In The Family may have broaden its audience.




I refused to comment on whether 704 Hauser Street is a spinoff.

*PinkLady*
09-14-2003, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Unless you have proof backing up your statement, it means nothing

TVFactFan
09-14-2003, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by *PinkLady*



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Brian Damage
09-15-2003, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
I refused to comment on whether 704 Hauser Street is a spinoff.

Why?

Sitcomwriter
09-15-2003, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
Why?

Because he's a Dick....Soloman.

TVFactFan
09-15-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
Why? \


Because it just oo many reasons why it's not a spinoff. So i don't see the point in discussing it.

TVFactFan
09-15-2003, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by Sitcomwriter
Because he's a Dick....Soloman.


Watch your mouth

Brian Damage
09-15-2003, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
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Because it just oo many reasons why it's not a spinoff. So i don't see the point in discussing it.

The House was spunoff THE END!

TVFactFan
09-15-2003, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
The House was spunoff THE END!



So if a White Family moved in the Jeffersons old apt would that be a spinoff too?-LMAO!!!!

Brian Damage
09-15-2003, 08:20 PM
If they make a show about it it is.

TVFactFan
09-15-2003, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
If they make a show about it it is.


I'm not going to even get involved in this crazy discussion-LOL

Brian Damage
09-15-2003, 08:29 PM
Look around....READ....704 Hauser Street is a spinoff. It might not make sense to you...but then again Good Times doesn't make sense to you and that's an easy one.

ThomasE
09-15-2003, 09:38 PM
and the saga continues...................:lol:

Brian Damage
09-16-2003, 09:53 AM
If only Solomon knew what he was talking about.