View Full Version : Was Edith a dingbat?


GeeBee
08-18-2003, 09:23 PM
Of course she was. What other type of woman would have put up with Archie?

DarleneIllyria
08-19-2003, 12:24 AM
:lol:

I think Edith did have her dingbat moments, okay, almost every moment was a dingbat moment. But sometimes Edith could just come up with stuff that really was good advice/thoughts/wisdom/etc.

Mr. Television
08-19-2003, 12:42 AM
Yes and that's why she was so loved.

GeeBee
08-19-2003, 08:53 AM
Oh, Edith was a great character and had her moments of wisdom. It's just ironic that the dinginess Archie always complained about was probably the only reason she hadn't left him years ago. I can't think of one TV husband who outdid Archie when it came to shabby treatment of a wife.

ConservativeBalla
08-19-2003, 03:41 PM
She may be sort of book-smart but she's not, erm.... What's the opposite of it called? World-smart? Street-smart? :confused:

TVFactFan
08-21-2003, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by GeeBee
Of course she was. What other type of woman would have put up with Archie?


Yeah she was definitely a dingbat. Edith really showed she was a dingbat when she gave Louise Jefferson a lottery ticket that she paid for. geeBee i will bump up that post about the lottery ticket

Viola_Fuss
11-17-2003, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by ConservativeBaller
She may be sort of book-smart but she's not, erm.... What's the opposite of it called? World-smart? Street-smart? :confused:

I think you're trying to articulate the expression "book smart, and people dumb" which refers to people who are educated, but not compassionate. Edith is neither book smart nor street smart (she's Archies wife and that's her focus in life). But she's very people smart and knows how to bring out the best in Archie Bunker and pretty much everyone else around her. She was certainly a very beloved woman.

AB
06-17-2007, 09:31 PM
It seems kind of bad calling her a dingbat, she was so good-hearted and kind. But she did have some strange behavior at times.

TJL
06-18-2007, 03:01 AM
It seems kind of bad calling her a dingbat, she was so good-hearted and kind.


I agree.
Edith Bunker was a kind hearted soul who was a wonderful neighbor and saw the good in all people.
Heck, she saw that there was good in her husband, an angry bigot the likes of which the TV universe had never seen.
Sure, Edith may have seemed "simple," but she had her moments of clarity and at times seemed the only person in that crazy houshold that was the most grounded.
In my opinion Gene Stapleton is one of the most gifted actresses ever to stand in front of a televison camera. She was the perfect foil for Archie, but at the same time she managed to take her "dingbat" character to amazing heights.

Edith will never be a dinbat in my book.

TripperFan
06-18-2007, 10:59 AM
I agree.
Edith Bunker was a kind hearted soul who was a wonderful neighbor and saw the good in all people.
Heck, she saw that there was good in her husband, an angry bigot the likes of which the TV universe had never seen.
Sure, Edith may have seemed "simple," but she had her moments of clarity and at times seemed the only person in that crazy houshold that was the most grounded.
In my opinion Gene Stapleton is one of the most gifted actresses ever to stand in front of a televison camera. She was the perfect foil for Archie, but at the same time she managed to take her "dingbat" character to amazing heights.

Edith will never be a dinbat in my book.


:clap Totally agree! Edith was the sweetest, purest, kindest soul you can find. Almost like a "human puppy".

catlover79
06-18-2007, 12:47 PM
I agree.
Edith Bunker was a kind hearted soul who was a wonderful neighbor and saw the good in all people.
Heck, she saw that there was good in her husband, an angry bigot the likes of which the TV universe had never seen.
Sure, Edith may have seemed "simple," but she had her moments of clarity and at times seemed the only person in that crazy houshold that was the most grounded.
In my opinion Gene Stapleton is one of the most gifted actresses ever to stand in front of a televison camera. She was the perfect foil for Archie, but at the same time she managed to take her "dingbat" character to amazing heights.

Edith will never be a dinbat in my book.
:clap Well said, TJL! I couldn't have said it better myself. ;)

Janice
06-18-2007, 01:04 PM
I personally wouldn't call Edith a dingbat. She was sweet, compassionate, understanding and could often cut through to the core of an issue with a simple sentence. With that said, Edith could be waaaaaaayyyy out there at times. I've never known anyone in my entire life who could act so dimwitted and off the wall. The way she babbled on sometimes was insane. Funny but wacky, no doubt. Sure, Edith was wacky most of the time. It's as if she was in her own little world. She sure was loveable though.

TripperFan
06-18-2007, 01:38 PM
She sure was loveable though.

Does anybody remember the first 2 episodes? Edith wasn't quite a dingy as she got. She was a little more abrupt. I think the producers/writers got a bit of feedback after those shows, or maybe just saw it themselves that Edith had to "soften" a bit in order to be truly likeable against Archie's personality. It was then that she got really dingy in her remarks. As the show progressed, she seemed then to offer really sound, good advice on occasion.

I loved it when she'd point out to Mike why Archie did things and that he might be jealous of Mike's education. As smart as Mike thought he was, it was clear that he'd never thought of that and have a bit of compassion for Arch.

Edith might not have been book smart, but she knew "people" and was an expert at handling them. Hey - anybody who could handle Archie on a day to day basis can handle any personality!

TVFactFan
06-18-2007, 09:49 PM
The fact that she loan Louise money to buy a lottery ticket and wasn't going to get half of the winnings from Louise made Edith Bunker a Dingbat

TJL
06-19-2007, 01:27 AM
The fact that she loan Louise money to buy a lottery ticket and wasn't going to get half of the winnings from Louise made Edith Bunker a Dingbat

Then you've missed the point entirely.

Edith did kind and generous things because that was her nature. She never thought about herself.

comedyfreak
06-19-2007, 05:42 AM
Edith had her moments of dingyness. When she dented a car with a can of cling peaches in heavy syrup. Archie was so mad at her long speech he told her not to say cling peaches, LOL. She'd say hmmm hmmms.

TVFactFan
06-19-2007, 06:52 PM
Then you've missed the point entirely.

Edith did kind and generous things because that was her nature. She never thought about herself.


But no one who is NORMAL would loan someone money for a lottery ticket and not expect half if they lottery ticket is the winning ticket.

Janice
06-20-2007, 12:50 PM
But no one who is NORMAL would loan someone money for a lottery ticket and not expect half if they lottery ticket is the winning ticket.
Unless they had an agreement to split the winnings, then I don't think Edith was entitled to any money. Did they have that agreement?

TVFactFan
06-20-2007, 06:21 PM
Unless they had an agreement to split the winnings, then I don't think Edith was entitled to any money. Did they have that agreement?


I thought it was a no brainer that if u buy someone a lottery ticket and it wins, you get SOMETHING-lol Just like the girl at my job bought some a $2 scratch off and it was $50 and they split the winnings

Janice
06-20-2007, 07:30 PM
I thought it was a no brainer that if u buy someone a lottery ticket and it wins, you get SOMETHING-lol Just like the girl at my job bought some a $2 scratch off and it was $50 and they split the winnings
I don't remember the circumstances with the money and the lottery ticket with Edith and Louise. What happened again?

TVFactFan
06-20-2007, 08:03 PM
I don't remember the circumstances with the money and the lottery ticket with Edith and Louise. What happened again?


Edith loaned Louise money to buy a lottery ticket and the ticket ended up winning and Edith was never expecting to receive any of the money which made Archie SNAP-lol

Janice
06-20-2007, 08:06 PM
Edith loaned Louise money to buy a lottery ticket and the ticket ended up winning and Edith was never expecting to receive any of the money which made Archie SNAP-lol
I'm sorry Solomon, but unless there's an explicit agreement to split the winnings, I don't think Edith deserved it. I think Louise should have offered her something, and I'm suprised she didn't. If someone buys me a lottery ticket, scratch-off or whatever, and if I hit for $500....I'd give them $100 as a courtesy.

TVFactFan
06-21-2007, 01:08 AM
I'm sorry Solomon, but unless there's an explicit agreement to split the winnings, I don't think Edith deserved it. I think Louise should have offered her something, and I'm suprised she didn't. If someone buys me a lottery ticket, scratch-off or whatever, and if I hit for $500....I'd give them $100 as a courtesy.


She offered her a gift, not money. But for the longest I never saw the Tag scene to this ep which shows louise offering Edith something out of the winnings. I first saw the ep on my local UPN station and they cut out the tag.

Ireneparalegal
06-21-2007, 01:54 AM
Edith could have been related to Vera (ALICE). :lol:

TVFactFan
06-21-2007, 06:32 PM
Edith could have been related to Vera (ALICE). :lol:


Or Horshack from WBK-lol

Nighthawk76
06-21-2007, 07:13 PM
I agree.
Edith Bunker was a kind hearted soul who was a wonderful neighbor and saw the good in all people.
Heck, she saw that there was good in her husband, an angry bigot the likes of which the TV universe had never seen.
Sure, Edith may have seemed "simple," but she had her moments of clarity and at times seemed the only person in that crazy houshold that was the most grounded.
In my opinion Gene Stapleton is one of the most gifted actresses ever to stand in front of a televison camera. She was the perfect foil for Archie, but at the same time she managed to take her "dingbat" character to amazing heights.

Edith will never be a dinbat in my book.


That was nicely put. I could not agree more.

PlayOn
06-22-2007, 01:04 AM
while reading your post, the back of my mind thought of something Archie once said to Edith about a dingbat flying around in mist or fog. I wish I could think of it. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, please help me out.

Anyway, I'm a hard-core fan of this show. But I think Edith was like Rose Nyland from The Golden Girls. Just a little bit. Both had times where they said some off the wall crazy things that made other chatacters look at them oddly, but at times they had sense, like most of you said. It's like God gave her a brain but it only worked half the time. Or people smarts vs. book smarts.