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The TV Show Guy
07-07-2003, 10:11 PM
I payed him $80.00 for all episodes of Saved By The Bell about 3-4 months ago. So far, I only recieved season 2, season 4, and the movie specials. He also claimed that they were "A+" quality when the quality was more like D+ quality. I e-mailed him about a refund since I was not pleased about the quality and he just ignores my e-mails now. Anyways do not trade or buy anything from him because he will rip you off.

TVFactFan
07-07-2003, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by The TV Show Guy
I payed him $80.00 for all episodes of Saved By The Bell about 3-4 months ago. So far, I only recieved season 2, season 4, and the movie specials. He also claimed that they were "A+" quality when the quality was more like D+ quality. I e-mailed him about a refund since I was not pleased about the quality and he just ignores my e-mails now. Anyways do not trade or buy anything from him because he will rip you off.


Sorry to hear that.

Agent 13
07-07-2003, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by The TV Show Guy
I payed him $80.00 for all episodes of Saved By The Bell about 3-4 months ago. So far, I only recieved season 2, season 4, and the movie specials. He also claimed that they were "A+" quality when the quality was more like D+ quality. I e-mailed him about a refund since I was not pleased about the quality and he just ignores my e-mails now. Anyways do not trade or buy anything from him because he will rip you off.

Could you please tell something about this person? Is his ID loudonslim on this board? Is his last name Maples? Is he from a town named Loudon? I am asking because I sent tapes to someone on this board that fits that description, but he has a different ID and a different email. I've been waiting three weeks, and I am beginning to wonder...

The TV Show Guy
07-07-2003, 11:52 PM
Yeah I think his ID on this board is loudonslim. I also found his website: http://pamela37774.tripod.com/tvshows/

cp32
07-08-2003, 10:25 PM
I think this person is also on coolcollecting.com
I dont understand. There are a few post about that person on both message boards here and there. Yet, people still want to trade or buy from him or her. If you see a post avoid that person like the plague. Do a trader check . Or some other form of references. People like that makes it harder for the those who are good trader/sellers to do anything. It really erks me.
Im still new at this myself. I have found that most good traders are more open and more than willing to give you references.
Start small when doing a new trade. Start with just doing 2 tapes at time . Until you feel you can trust that person. If you do
take a loss.
you are only out 2 tapes instead of a lot . Most good traders or sellers will understand and work with you. Im sorry you had to loose so much. I assure you. There are more good people on this board than bad. I havent encountered a bad one yet.

l0okitzmeh
07-09-2003, 12:31 PM
I did a trade wit this person too....I've noticed that ..alot people have been saying that this person uses two names...one is Pam Maples and the other is William something...i just sent her 12 eps of lizzie mcguire .... and she said she will be senting out my stuff at the end of this week....we'll see what happens....and also...her ID are tvcollector,dawsoncreekfan..and maybe some other names

http://www.creationcenter.com/boards/sweetvalleymall/messages/135.html

over there people are also saying how they got ripped off by her....

http://www.creationcenter.com/boards/sweetvalleymall/messages/119.html

if anyone got any new..News on her please let me know thanks
and she is also, selling sweet valley high tapes on yahoo auctions...

http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/auction/76937252?aucview=0x23

capeside_93
07-09-2003, 01:17 PM
Hi. I'm dawsonscreekfan. I just saw this post and it's really made me mad as I may not have been on this board long and all and not many may know me yet but I am not no loudonslim.
I have 2 emails capeside_93@hotmail.com and pamela839@hotmail.com

capeside_93@hotmail.com is used for my trading and pamela839@hotmail.com where I do have a webpage for selling.
That way I can kinda keep them seperate.

dawsoncreekfan is my id here and tvcollectoris my id on ezboard messages as dawsoncreekfan was taken at the time.

I have did a couple trades with Angie on this board (Collinwood) and all has went well, I am in a trade with knightrider, and lookitzme above will get their tapes as they are ready to be sent when I go this week. I can also provide about 30 email address for people I have bought, sold, and traded, with with no problems, so I really don't what's going on here but I would like for everyone to quit assuming things. I mean it may of been better if someone could of emailed me and spoke privately to me about this since I really have no clue to why my name stating I'm a bad trader has been threw all over the board. So now I'm made out to be a fraud because I have been mistaken for someone else or whatever? That's really bull****.

capeside_93
07-09-2003, 01:21 PM
I would also like to share an email that came to my email address today because of this. It states I'm from Texas also which whomever I have traded with and under my user id states I live in Tennessee? What's up with that? ANyways I got this message 38 times in my inbox. Thanks.

<really not necessary to post something like this with this language...>

Agent 13
07-09-2003, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by dawsonscreekfan
I would also like to share an email that came to my email address today because of this. It states I'm from Texas also which whomever I have traded with and under my user id states I live in Tennessee? What's up with that? ANyways I got this message 38 times in my inbox. Thanks.

I sent dawsonscreekfan a couple of tapes last month and am in the process of waiting for mine at present. Here is her partial address to show she really is from Tennessee:

Pamela Maples
2931 ****
Loudon, TN 37774

capeside_93
07-09-2003, 02:45 PM
Thanks, Jen.

Your tapes are going back out tomorrow. I will send you the tracking number tomorrow evening when I get home. It's Fuzzbucket and 8 episodes of The Waltons.

I also have recorded 15 more eps of The Waltons so far.

Collinwood2003
07-10-2003, 11:44 PM
Pam is a great trader. I got her tapes last monday and we are doing another trade. And have lots more trades in the future. I have traded with Kevin, Jen, Dave, Jason, and some other people on this board.

Angie

Andy0213
07-11-2003, 12:48 AM
There is something i dont understand about this person dawsoncreekfan....How come he pretends not being loudonslim since they have both the same email address:capeside_93@hotmail.com and pamela839@hotmail.com???



:confused:

jroxx2002
07-11-2003, 11:29 AM
I just did a trade with Pam. She's a great trader!! I'd trade with her again ANY DAY!!

l0okitzmeh
07-14-2003, 12:57 PM
Pam Maples is a very good trader =] ...i just received her tapes today thanks Pam ...Sorry about before..

Agent 13
07-21-2003, 01:58 PM
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folfreak25
07-22-2003, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by The TV Show Guy
I payed him $80.00 for all episodes of Saved By The Bell about 3-4 months ago. So far, I only recieved season 2, season 4, and the movie specials. He also claimed that they were "A+" quality when the quality was more like D+ quality. I e-mailed him about a refund since I was not pleased about the quality and he just ignores my e-mails now. Anyways do not trade or buy anything from him because he will rip you off.
He did that to me too. I traded about 90 episodes of the Facts Of Life. He was suppossed to give me several other shows. But of course that was five months ago. I keep emailing him and he won't respond. :mad:

daydreamer11
07-23-2003, 06:57 PM
LOUDONSLIM IS A GIRL! I AM STILL WAITING FOR TAPES FROM HER ALSO. SEEMS DAWSONSCREEKFAN IS BEING NAMED AS THE WRONG PERSON. LOUNDSLIM ALSO USES THIS BOARD UNDER ANOTHER NAME WWW.DAWSONSCREEKFAN.COM. DAWSONSCREEKFAN IS NOT THE SAME PERSON I HAVE AN EMAIL TO PROVE IT THE PAMELA GIRL WHOM I HAVE NOT RECEIVED TAPES FROM YET HAS SENT ME AN EMAIL SAYING THAT ITS HER. I WILL PUT IT IN HERE FOR ALL OF YOU TO SEE. HERE IS THE COPY. HER EMAIL ADDRESS TO ME WAS BEATYP@BELLSOUTH.NET. IF YOU ASK ME SHE IS RUNNING SOME KIND OF SCAM AND CHANGING HER NAME OR SOMETHING. SOMEONE SHOULD BAN HER FROM USING THESE BOARDS. EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NOT RECIEVED MY TAPES FROM HER SHE ASKS ME WHY I HAVE HER ON MY BAD TRADER LIST. CAN WE SAY MORON! LOL

I can ship them out when I get a ride to the post office again. Also I was just on Sitcoms Online and found your webpage http://www.angelfire.com/film/estrading/trading.html

Why did you lie to me about even having one? The email addy is the same so I know it's yours and why am I listed on your Bad Trader list. ALso my name on the sitcoms board is loudonslim , not dawsonscreekfan. That's another trader Pamela Maple - not me Pam Beaty. She emailed me and asked if I had been trading with you or what as she thought you had mixed us up.

Agent 13
07-23-2003, 07:36 PM
As most find out through trial and error, bad traders use various aliases, various websites, and various emails. Wouldn't it be best to post the actual name along with the address? It's far more difficult to pick up and move to a different location than it is to acquire a new email account.

It is not difficult to cross check with the information you know for sure about someone using google.com. But prepared should you find out more information than you really wanted to know. While researching one bad trader, I found out she'd previously been institutionalized for stalking movie stars. :eek:

If you have been burned by a trader/seller, you need to contact both US Mail Fraud (https://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/fraud/MailFraudComplaint.htm) on-line and Internet Fraud Complaint Center (http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp) (they work with the FBI) as soon as possible to get the ball rolling and add this offense to their criminal record.

If you used a US Postal Money Order, you can get your money refunded by filling out form #6401 from your local Post Office, which costs very little and well worth it.

Don't be afraid to press charges, and remember... it is not illegal to buy tapes or to trade.

By the way, all the bad traders I've heard of lie through their teeth. :nonono: Most of them practice their thievery because they've lost their conscience somewhere along the line. If you think they're going to readily admit their wrong doing, you're living in la la land.

stainedbeautie
07-24-2003, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by Agent 13
As most find out through trial and error, bad traders use various aliases, various websites, and various emails. Wouldn't it be best to post the actual name along with the address? It's far more difficult to pick up and move to a different location than it is to acquire a new email account.

It is not difficult to cross check with the information you know for sure about someone using google.com. But prepared should you find out more information than you really wanted to know. While researching one bad trader, I found out she'd previously been institutionalized for stalking movie stars. :eek:

If you have been burned by a trader/seller, you need to contact both US Mail Fraud (https://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/fraud/MailFraudComplaint.htm) on-line and Internet Fraud Complaint Center (http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp) (they work with the FBI) as soon as possible to get the ball rolling and add this offense to their criminal record.

If you used a US Postal Money Order, you can get your money refunded by filling out form #6401 from your local Post Office, which costs very little and well worth it.

Don't be afraid to press charges, and remember... it is not illegal to buy tapes or to trade.

By the way, all the bad traders I've heard of lie through their teeth. :nonono: Most of them practice their thievery because they've lost their conscience somewhere along the line. If you think they're going to readily admit their wrong doing, you're living in la la land.



thank you for the information (this is daydreamer11's sister). I kinda figured that this person whoever he / she may be wasn't even going to confess. I got an email from Pam Mapels that my sister did not get. She was acting a little to nice for some odd reason, even after the first email I got was very defensive, makes one wonder. I am really glad I only sent her Popular episodes and not $80, I feel really sorry for the person who did. I hope you get your money back, believe me.

capeside_93
07-24-2003, 01:21 PM
If you ask anyone who mails back and forth with me I am a very "nice" person to everyone.
I am not the one who got popular from you as I told everyone I got mine from tvland7@hotmail.com

Who trades with me that is their decision, but I myself do not enjoy being accused of something that I did not do.
I have traded with many people since I started and for those I have never traded with I have no problem sending first if they want to trade.

Maybe you sould get the address of this person and post it? That should clear up alot.

daydreamer11
07-25-2003, 06:15 PM
more then one person says that you use the same mailing address and have all different email address's so do not take your anger out on me or my sister, maybe if you were going to rip people off ud hide your identity a little better. we and like a lot of other people do not appreciate it. i never thought someone could be that sad to lie but hey thats what kind of world it is these days i guess. just cause you send some people tapes and not tapes to others does not excuse you from being a bad trader. by doing that you are going to lose a lot of trades and i know i am not only speaking for myself and my sister, almost every post in the topic is proof of that.

jroxx2002
07-27-2003, 02:06 AM
I'll still trade with Pam Maples. She's great!!:wave:

The TV Show Guy
07-29-2003, 05:49 PM
It looks like loudonslim is trying to rip off more people on a different trading board. Here's the link: http://pub78.ezboard.com/fcoolcollectingfrm1.showMessage?topicID=350.topic

ML21
01-04-2004, 03:22 PM
I sent P. Maples USD 40 on November 27th and until Dec. 20th he claimed he never got the money. I just can't believe this but now I'm thinking I got ripped off. I'm in school and don't have much money but I really wanted to get those few eps I needed and now he didn't react on my last mail I sent some days ago. I'm from Europe though I guess I'll never ever get the tapes after reading these messages, what a disappointment. I paid a lot and will get nothing for it, that's a shame. And I mean indeed the same P. Maples who is mentioned above, 2931 Br...., Loudon, TN 37774 that's his address where I sent the money. Dunno why some said it's a girl (?) he acted like he's a guy.

ML21
01-04-2004, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by dawsonscreekfan
If you ask anyone who mails back and forth with me I am a very "nice" person to everyone.
I am not the one who got popular from you as I told everyone I got mine from tvland7@hotmail.com

Who trades with me that is their decision, but I myself do not enjoy being accused of something that I did not do.
I have traded with many people since I started and for those I have never traded with I have no problem sending first if they want to trade.

Maybe you sould get the address of this person and post it? That should clear up alot.

You're indeed the person I sent USD 40 on November (!) 27th and until now you claim you never got it?!?!? I can't believe this and I'm sure you rip people off like you did with me. I guess I'll never get my two tapes with MP episodes and the email address you gave me was tvland7@hotmail.com. I sent you a mail some days ago and you never replied to it. I also sent one today which I'm sure you won't answer. If you have anything to correct please feel free to correct it here and I'll tell you if it's true what you're saying or not.

mashunter18
01-04-2004, 04:23 PM
loud n slim,and dawson creek fan are the exact same person.

I traded with loudnslim,and got everything I traded for no problem at all--------then dawson creek fan showed up with all the same stuff,it may be his wife,either way they are the same address,and I never had any problems,this was a while back,at least a year ago.

ML21
01-04-2004, 04:56 PM
ROFLMAO well if you confirm what I already wrote in the other thread then it's really true. It's one person and I know what I said and I'm telling the truth. I spent a lot of money and he/she claimed she never got it, ridiculous. And if you read the other thread you should see that he wrote a message as dawsonscreekfan and right after it he replied to it as loudonslim LMAO. I'm asking myself how stupid he must be that others wouldn't see that. Without a doubt I believe everyone who said he got ripped off, so did I, also never got a reply to my mail. And please stop defending him cause he don't deserve it, he/she's a BAD trader and has to be banned. Any comments welcome

ML21
01-05-2004, 04:34 PM
I got your msg "Paul" . :rolleyes: let's see who else is important to mention in this game: your ex-sister in law Pamela, your brother William, right? okay not to forget Samantha. They lived in the house before you and since 5 months you live there. And your poor brother tried to destroy his ex-wife's trader reputation, so should I blame him that you claim you didn't get my money since 1 1/2 months where you already lived in the house?! C'mon you've such a bad reputation obviously you're not aware of it. You'll get back one day what you did to others - period -
you're such a looser

ML21
01-05-2004, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by l0okitzmeh
I did a trade wit this person too....I've noticed that ..alot people have been saying that this person uses two names...one is Pam Maples and the other is William something...i just sent her 12 eps of lizzie mcguire .... and she said she will be senting out my stuff at the end of this week....we'll see what happens....and also...her ID are tvcollector,dawsoncreekfan..and maybe some other names

http://www.creationcenter.com/boards/sweetvalleymall/messages/135.html

over there people are also saying how they got ripped off by her....

http://www.creationcenter.com/boards/sweetvalleymall/messages/119.html

if anyone got any new..News on her please let me know thanks
and she is also, selling sweet valley high tapes on yahoo auctions...

http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/auction/76937252?aucview=0x23

yeah and now he claims his name is "Paul", his brothers name is William and his brothers wifes name is Samantha!! He said he has no clue who Pamela is!!!!!!!!! it's so ridiculous, people don't buy, he's a scammer!!!!!!

ML21
01-05-2004, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by Agent 13
I sent dawsonscreekfan a couple of tapes last month and am in the process of waiting for mine at present. Here is her partial address to show she really is from Tennessee:

Pamela Maples
2931 ****
Loudon, TN 37774


you're right Jen.
again for all newbies to see we know what we're talking about:

he claimed to me now his name is "Paul", above Jen wrote his name is "Pamela" (like he told her) and he told me now he don't know who Pamela is! this guy is insane

Agent 13
01-05-2004, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by ML21
That's ridiculous! I also bought two tapes from you and you said you never got USD 40 from me which I'm sure you did. And you admit your address is P. Maples, 2931 Bradshaw Rd., Loudon, TN 37774.

It sure is confusing because the address you mentioned is the address I have on record for Pam Maples. (I keep a record of all my trader's addresses.) :confused:

ML21
01-05-2004, 09:04 PM
that's exactly the same address where I sent the money, I'm also saving all addresses

Nan8
01-05-2004, 10:22 PM
Thanks for the warning!

Another one you should steer clear of is this guy called dan Giddings. I ordered a Car 54, Where Are You? tape from him a while back, and it wasn't even the one I ordered. It just cost me 12 bucks though ($10 + $2 shipping).

I have a trade/sell list on this board. I've gotten a few replies. If a tape I had wasn't "up to snuff", I wouldn't lie and say it was "A+" instead of "D+" or F; liars have a very nasty way of getting caught up with.

RoseNylund
01-06-2004, 12:23 AM
I don't know if this will help, but last year or so, someone tok me and others for a ride selling stuff on a message board and never sending the merchandise. Since I had the address, I found the phone number, and attempted to contact the individual. Through a series of several lies, I then decided to contact the authorities in the city they were from. I called City Hall to confirm the residence of the individual, then I called the Sheriff to inform them that there was an individual practicing fraud in their city. I proceded to the US Postal Service to file a fraud claim. When I called back to tell the individual that the police were involved, I got my money back---and fast.

You all have the address of this person. You all need to contact the authorities in that jurisdiction and start a complaint. If osmeone is taking your money, don't let them get away with it. Find the number in Loudon, TN and good luck.

Agent 13
01-06-2004, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by RoseNylund
Find the number in Loudon, TN and good luck.

I found the phone number can easily by using Reverse White Pages (http://www.whitepages.com/reverse-address)

Nan8
01-06-2004, 03:27 PM
Dan Giddings doesn't have a website: he advertises in GOLDMINE magazine. Steer clear of him anyway.

I can't believe people are trying to get away with that stuff on ebay! Don't they know they'll get caught up with? Ebay doesn't fool around! I wouldn't want MY privileges taken away. I guess SOME people don't care, though.

I don't have a selling account on there yet (my buying number isn't up to 30 yet), but have come across just one shady one, though, the rest were great! I've gotten some pretty cool stuff on there!

The shady one got p'od at me just because it was my first time buying and I didn't understand the shipping/payment plan; it turned out to be my fault, though. I didn't scroll down far enough and thought the thing in the middle was the payment/shipping plan.

Another one to steer clear of is Christine Thomas. I forgot her whole address, but here is part of it: Flat 10, Portsmouth Hants, UK. The postmark said, "Isle of Wight". She's a real crook!

ML21
01-07-2004, 07:02 PM
I didn't send a registered letter, just normal standard and she knows that. Also I'm from Europe and have no proof he got it, I just know he DID.

l0okitzmeh
01-07-2004, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by ML21
I didn't send a registered letter, just normal standard and she knows that. Also I'm from Europe and have no proof he got it, I just know he DID.

did u send your money in a money order or a check? if u did then u do have records .... last time i traded with Pam she mailed me my stuff so i guess she mails it to some people and the others she doesn't :T

ML21
01-08-2004, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by l0okitzmeh
did u send your money in a money order or a check? if u did then u do have records .... last time i traded with Pam she mailed me my stuff so i guess she mails it to some people and the others she doesn't :T



I sent it cash, just a normal envelope. I know she got it but she claims she didn't and uses lots of aliases. She is a liar and lots of people made the same experience.

l0okitzmeh
01-08-2004, 09:42 PM
you should never put cash in the mail because then you wouldn't have any proof.... next time when u pay or buy something send it in a money order or checks....its much safer

Agent 13
01-08-2004, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by l0okitzmeh
you should never put cash in the mail because then you wouldn't have any proof.... next time when u pay or buy something send it in a money order or checks....its much safer

With our business, I have many times accepted cash in the mail from customers overseas. If a seller is completely honest, then that takes care of most of the problems with sending cash. Besides, as many of us can attest, sending money orders or checks isn't an absolute guarantee. Incidentally, filing a complaint with the USPS takes a loooong time, and if the con artist has perfected the ropes of his/her trade, then you will not necessarily recover from your losses.

In this case, the problem is not with the sender but the seller. Hind site always 20/20, isn't it.

Collinwood2003
01-08-2004, 10:48 PM
If you ever send cash I would send it prority mail with a tracking # But a money order is always the best thing to get.

ML21
01-09-2004, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by Collinwood2003
If you ever send cash I would send it prority mail with a tracking # But a money order is always the best thing to get.

I know priority is much safer and I can track it but I have currently a few trades but I also have to change Euros in Dollars and so I sent most of them normal. I thought these people would be honest enough to admit if they got the money. I've learned my lesson.

Nan8
01-09-2004, 11:31 AM
I've sent cash through the mail plenty of times, but got shafted just twice: that Christine Thomas character and Movies Unlimited. You'd thinka commercial company like theirs would have a tracking number, but they don't. Steer clear of them.

I got two Not the Nine O'Clock News tapes from a place in England called KJW Trading. They're on Ebay. I sent them cash and they came through all right.

I don't know what's wrong with Movies Unlimited. When I sent them cash before, (well concealed, of course) they always sent my stuff, but the last time, 2 years ago, they didn't. When I wrote them asking where my stuff was, they told me they (get this!) LOST my order and for me to send them a copy of the check and they'd send it. Well, I sent cash and I told them that. I never heard from them again! Crooks! Don't deal with them. I haven't since! They could really stand to come down a little on their tapes, too.