Swimfan85
06-29-2003, 07:39 PM
what would be your Al and Nl all-star lineups?
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View Full Version : All Star lineup Swimfan85 06-29-2003, 07:39 PM what would be your Al and Nl all-star lineups? Small Wonderian 06-29-2003, 08:27 PM Originally posted by Swimfan85 what would be your Al and Nl all-star lineups? My AL All-Stars 1B - Carlos Delgado - Toronto Blue Jays 2B - Bret Boone - Seattle Mariners 3B - Troy Glaus - Anaheim Angels SS - Derek Jeter - New York Yankees C - Sandy Alomar, Jr. - Chicago White Sox DH - Edgar Martinez - Seattle Mariners P - Roger Clemens - New York Yankees LF - Manny Ramirez - Boston Red Sox CF - Torii Hunter - Minnesota Twins RF - Ichiro Suzuki - Seattle Mariners My NL All-Stars 1B - Jeff Bagwell - Houston Astros 2B - Marcus Giles - Atlanta Braves 3B - Adrian Beltre - Los Angeles Dodgers SS - Barry Larkin - Cincinnati Reds C - Mike Piazza - New York Mets DH - Albert Pujols - St. Louis Cardinals P - Russ Ortiz - Atlanta Braves LF - Barry Bonds - San Francisco Giants CF - Andruw Jones - Atlanta Braves RF - Vladimir Gurrerro - Montreal Expos Swimfan85 06-29-2003, 09:02 PM I am jus going to do American League to start 1st Base- Carlos Delgado- Toranto Blue Jays Kevin Millar- Boston Red Sox 2nd Base- Bret Boone- Seattle Mariners Todd Walker- Boston Red Sox (sorta iffy cuz he does have 10 errors already but there arent many strong 2b's like Bret Boone and Soriano also has 10 errors but Walker has better batting numbers) 3rd Base- Bill Mueller (better hitting numbers and fielding numbers then Troy Glaus)-Boston Red Sox Eric Chavze- Oakland A's Outfield- Suzuki, I. Mariners Ramirez, M. Red Sox Nixon, T- Red Sox (hes hitting .316 and has 4 errors...pretty impressive) Shortstop- A-Rod-better fielding Nomar-better everything else Pitching- Pedro (when hes healthy) Esteban Loaiza Swimfan85 06-29-2003, 09:10 PM Catcher- Jason Varitek- he has better batting stats then Poseda and throws out more runners Truth 06-29-2003, 09:19 PM Originally posted by Swimfan85 2nd Base- Bret Boone- Seattle Mariners Todd Walker- Boston Red Sox (sorta iffy cuz he does have 10 errors already but there arent many strong 2b's like Bret Boone and Soriano also has 10 errors but Walker has better batting numbers) Todd walker has better batting numbers then Soriano? Pedantic 06-29-2003, 09:48 PM AL: C--Jorge Posada, NYY 1B--Carlos Delgado, TOR 2B--Alfonso Soriano, NYY 3B--Troy Glaus, ANA SS--Alex Rodriguez, TEX OF--Manny Ramirez, BOS OF--Carlos Beltran, KC OF--Vernon Wells, TOR DH--Edgar Martinez, SEA P--Mike Mussina, NYY NL: C--Javy Lopez, ATL 1B--Todd Helton, COL 2B--Jeff Kent, HOU 3B--Scott Rolen, STL SS--Rafael Furcal, ATL OF--Albert Pujols, STL OF--Lance Berkman, HOU OF--Gary Sheffield, ATL P--Hideo Nomo, LA I think that about covers it... Swimfan85 06-29-2003, 10:01 PM Originally posted by AAOT Todd walker has better batting numbers then Soriano? Todd Walker Games- 74 At Bats- 312 Runs- 58 Hits- 98 2b- 19 3b- 2 hr- 8 RB1- 46 BB- 27 S0- 27 OBP- 363 SLU- 465 AVG- 314 Soriano- Games-79 At Bats-357 Runs-66 Hits- 103 2b-12 3b-3 hr-21 RBI-48 BB-23 SO-68 OBP-340 SLU-.515 AVG-.289 Swimfan85 06-29-2003, 10:02 PM Jorge Poseda SUCKS Truth 06-29-2003, 10:04 PM Originally posted by Swimfan85 Todd Walker Games- 74 At Bats- 312 Runs- 58 Hits- 98 2b- 19 3b- 2 hr- 8 RB1- 46 BB- 27 S0- 27 OBP- 363 SLU- 465 AVG- 314 Soriano- Games-79 At Bats-357 Runs-66 Hits- 103 2b-12 3b-3 hr-21 RBI-48 BB-23 SO-68 OBP-340 SLU-.515 AVG-.289 Soriano More runs, Hits, Homers, RBI's, And of course Steals Truth 06-29-2003, 10:05 PM Walker has been doing good though lately Ill admit that... Swimfan85 06-29-2003, 10:10 PM Originally posted by AAOT Soriano More runs, Hits, Homers, RBI's, And of course Steals he also has over 40 more ab's to get those too...and stealing doesnt have to do with hitting, but I am not trying to bash Soriano cuz there is no doubt that he is a good young player but this year, or up to this point in the year I think that Todd Walker is doing better Swimfan85 06-29-2003, 10:12 PM but honestly, I REALLY REALLY think JORGE POSADA IS NOT GOOD AND JASON VARITEK IS MUCH BETTER Pavan 06-29-2003, 11:37 PM My AL starters: C--Jorge Posada, NYY 1B--Carlos Delgado, TOR 2B--Alfonso Soriano, NYY 3B--Hank Blalock, TEX SS--Alex Rodriguez, TEX OF--Ichiro Suzuki, SEA OF--Garret Anderson, ANA OF--Vernon Wells, TOR DH--Carl Everett, TEX P--Roger Clemens, NYY Bench: Jason Giambi, Carlos Beltran, Bret Boone, Manny Ramirez, Eric Chavez, Nomar Garciaparra, Melvin Mora, Milton Bradley, AJ Pierziensky. (And if were healthy this first half: Bernie Williams & Derek Jeter) Pitchers: Mussina, Loaiza, Halladay, Pedro Martinez, Moyer, Ponson, Mulder, Mariano Rivera, MacDougal, Guardado, Foulke My NL starters: C--Javy Lopez, ATL 1B--Todd Helton, COL 2B--Jeff Kent, HOU 3B--Mike Lowell, FLA SS--Edgar Renteria, STL OF--Albert Pujols, STL OF--Jim Edmonds, STL OF--Barry Bonds, SF DH--Gary Shefield, ATL P--Kevin Brown, LA Bench: Scott Rolen, Corey Patterson, Preston Wilson, Andruw Jones, Richie Sexson, Luis Gonzalez, Geoff Jenkins, Orlando Cabrera, Jim Thome, Paul LoDuca. Pitchers: Prior, Schmidt, Wood, Nomo, Chacon, Woody Williams, Dontrelle Willis, Gagne, Smoltz, Worrell, Billy Wagner. (If were healthy in first half: Schilling and Randy Johnson) JTC 06-30-2003, 01:31 PM My ALL-STARS NL C - J. Lopez, ATL 1B- R. Sexson, MIL 2B- J. Kent, HOU SS- E. Renteria, STL 3B- S. Rolen, STL OF- B. Bonds, SF OF- A. Pujols, STL OF- G. Sheffield, ATL SP- Nomo, Wood, Willis, Shawn Chacon, Randy Wolf RP- Gagne, Smoltz, Wagner, Rocky Biddle Bench: Jim Thome, Mike Lowell, Orlando Cabrera, Cliff Floyd, Sammy Sosa, Adam Dunn, Brian Giles, Luis Gonzalez, Preston Wilson, Ryan Klesko AL C- Jorge Posada, NYY 1B- Carlos Delgado, TOR 2B- Alfonso Soriano, NYY SS- Alex Rodriguez, TEX 3B- Eric Chavez, OAK OF- Ichiro, SEA OF- Vernon Wells, TOR OF- Manny Ramirez, BOS DH- Erubiel Durazo, OAK SP- Roy Halladay, Barry Zito, Mark Mulder, David Wells, Jamie Moyer, Gil Meche, CC Sabathia RP- Keith Foulke, Eddie Guardado Bench: Kevin Millar, Melvin Mora, Jay Gibbons, Aubrey Huff, Mike Sweeney, Carlos Beltran, Dmitri Young, Garrett Andersen mcgwirefan 06-30-2003, 01:39 PM The announcers said yesterday at our game that the Atlanta broadcaster said it shoud be the Seattle Mariners against the Braves and forget everone else. ITA, but that might be the WS. AL 1st- John Olerud 2nd -Brett Boone 3rd -Troy Glaus SS- Nomar C - Dan Wilson OF- Ichiro, Mike Cameron & Darin Erstad DH- Edgar Martinez Pitcher-Gil Meche NL 1st- Todd Helton 2nd- Jeff Kent 3rd-Scott Rolen SS-Edgar Renteria C-LoDucha OF-The Cardinals, Edmonds, Pujols, Drew Pitcher-Mike (or Matt?) Pryor Truth 06-30-2003, 01:44 PM Originally posted by mcgwirefan The announcers said yesterday at our game that the Atlanta broadcaster said it shoud be the Seattle Mariners against the Braves and forget everone else. ITA, but that might be the WS. They said that over here on the mariners game as well lol... I like that idea :) ah well we will get it in october.. JTC 06-30-2003, 02:30 PM Originally posted by mcgwirefan Pitcher-Mike (or Matt?) Pryor Neither Mike nor Matt....It is Mark Prior. Swimfan85 07-04-2003, 08:03 PM Jason Varitek deserves to be there!! so much more then jorge Small Wonderian 07-04-2003, 08:07 PM I can't wait for this year's All Star Game. This year it will determine which league will get home field advantage in the World Series (hopefully the NL - I want the Atlanta Braves to represent the NL in the World Series). :D I hated last year's 7-7 tie. They should make a rule that you can come back into the game if you're substituted. Swimfan85 07-04-2003, 08:22 PM Originally posted by amp2k3 I hated last year's 7-7 tie. They should make a rule that you can come back into the game if you're substituted. omg that made me so mad!!!! Kitt 07-04-2003, 09:06 PM Originally posted by amp2k3 I can't wait for this year's All Star Game. This year it will determine which league will get home field advantage in the World Series (hopefully the NL - I want the Atlanta Braves to represent the NL in the World Series). :D I hated last year's 7-7 tie. They should make a rule that you can come back into the game if you're substituted. I am not at all fond of the World Series home field being determined by the outcome of the All Star game. The All Star game doesn't have anything to do with the teams that ultimatately battle their way into the World Series. Not a good idea; a promotional scheme that I hope will fall by the wayside. I didn't like the game ending in a tie either. Poor managing caused that to happen. They shouldn't change the rule about substitutes coming back into the game, though. What managers should do is allow some of the pitchers to pitch more than one or two measly innings, and they sould keep most of the starting lineup in the game longer. More like they do in regular games. That way they wouldn't run out of players and pitchers if the game goes into extra innings. They didn't use to do this thing where they try to get everyone into the game like they do now. That why they used up all of their players before the game ended. That's a Little League mentality of managing. Major leaguers aren't going to cry if they happen to not get to play, lol. Small Wonderian 07-04-2003, 09:26 PM Originally posted by Kitt I am not at all fond of the World Series home field being determined by the outcome of the All Star game. The All Star game doesn't have anything to do with the teams that ultimatately battle their way into the World Series. Not a good idea; a promotional scheme that I hope will fall by the wayside. I didn't like the game ending in a tie either. Poor managing caused that to happen. They shouldn't change the rule about substitutes coming back into the game, though. What managers should do is allow some of the pitchers to pitch more than one or two measly innings, and they sould keep most of the starting lineup in the game longer. More like they do in regular games. That way they wouldn't run out of players and pitchers if the game goes into extra innings. They didn't use to do this thing where they try to get everyone into the game like they do now. That why they used up all of their players before the game ended. That's a Little League mentality of managing. Major leaguers aren't going to cry if they happen to not get to play, lol. I wouldn't think that this year's All-Star Game would determine next year's home advantage in the All-Star Game since the AL and NL usually alternate locations each year. Here's the last 11 hosts of the MLB All-Star Game: 1992 - Pittsburgh (Three Rivers Stadium) NL 1993 - Baltimore (Oriole Park at Camden Yards) AL 1994 - San Diego (Qualcomm Stadium) NL 1995 - Texas (The Ballpark In Arlington) AL 1996 - Philadelphia (Veterans Stadium) NL 1997 - Cleveland (Jacobs Field) AL 1998 - Colorado (Coors Field) NL 1999 - Boston (Fenway Park) AL 2000 - Atlanta (Turner Field) NL 2001 - Seattle (Safeco Field) AL 2002 - Milwaukee (Miller Park) NL 2003 - Chicago White Sox (U.S. Cellular Field) AL 2004 - ? to be determined (at an NL stadium) Also, maybe the pitchers could pitch more than 1 or 2 innings, but the players could also play more than 1 or 2 innings, so either way could work. Kitt 07-04-2003, 10:02 PM I know they alternate from American to National in the All Star games. I don't know why you are bringing that up in reply to what I wrote.? The new deal is that the all star game will determine the home-field advantage in the World Series. That's what I think is a bad idea. Small Wonderian 07-04-2003, 10:19 PM Originally posted by Kitt I know they alternate from American to National in the All Star games. I don't know why you are bringing that up in reply to what I wrote.? The new deal is that the all star game will determine the home-field advantage in the World Series. That's what I think is a bad idea. Why? I personally see it as the All-Star Game is still fun for the players playing it and the fans watching it, but now there is actually something to play for and what could be better than the home-field advantage in the World Series. Really and truly, if a team is good, then they could win The World Series whether they had home-field advantage in the World Series or not, but I would just feel more comfortable knowing that my team has more home games than my opponent. Kitt 07-04-2003, 10:37 PM Originally posted by amp2k3 Why? I personally see it as the All-Star Game is still fun for the players playing it and the fans watching it, but now there is actually something to play for and what could be better than the home-field advantage in the World Series. Really and truly, if a team is good, then they could win The World Series whether they had home-field advantage in the World Series or not, but I would just feel more comfortable knowing that my team has more home games than my opponent. Actually, there used to be something to play for. The teams and players played to win the All Star game. Like I said before, they didn't used to make so many substitutions like they do now. They got most of the players into the game still but there was an intense seriousness and pride about winning the game. Now it seems like little more than an exibition game which to me, holds little interest. I like to see major leagers play to win. The reason I don't like the All Star game having any bearing on the World Series home-field advantage is because there is no direct connection. Most of the players in the all star game won't be going to the World Series, and they pretty well know that at the time of the All Star break. They don't care if the team that beats them out of a chance to go to the World Series gets the home-field advantage. It doesn't make sense to have that riding on the outcome of the All Star game. But, we'll see if the managers play to win more so than they have in the past years. If they do, then that would be an improvement. |