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Swimfan85
06-29-2003, 07:39 PM
what would be your Al and Nl all-star lineups?

Small Wonderian
06-29-2003, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by Swimfan85
what would be your Al and Nl all-star lineups?

My AL All-Stars

1B - Carlos Delgado - Toronto Blue Jays
2B - Bret Boone - Seattle Mariners
3B - Troy Glaus - Anaheim Angels
SS - Derek Jeter - New York Yankees
C - Sandy Alomar, Jr. - Chicago White Sox
DH - Edgar Martinez - Seattle Mariners
P - Roger Clemens - New York Yankees
LF - Manny Ramirez - Boston Red Sox
CF - Torii Hunter - Minnesota Twins
RF - Ichiro Suzuki - Seattle Mariners

My NL All-Stars

1B - Jeff Bagwell - Houston Astros
2B - Marcus Giles - Atlanta Braves
3B - Adrian Beltre - Los Angeles Dodgers
SS - Barry Larkin - Cincinnati Reds
C - Mike Piazza - New York Mets
DH - Albert Pujols - St. Louis Cardinals
P - Russ Ortiz - Atlanta Braves
LF - Barry Bonds - San Francisco Giants
CF - Andruw Jones - Atlanta Braves
RF - Vladimir Gurrerro - Montreal Expos

Swimfan85
06-29-2003, 09:02 PM
I am jus going to do American League to start

1st Base-
Carlos Delgado- Toranto Blue Jays
Kevin Millar- Boston Red Sox

2nd Base-
Bret Boone- Seattle Mariners
Todd Walker- Boston Red Sox (sorta iffy cuz he does have 10 errors already but there arent many strong 2b's like Bret Boone and Soriano also has 10 errors but Walker has better batting numbers)

3rd Base-
Bill Mueller (better hitting numbers and fielding numbers then Troy Glaus)-Boston Red Sox
Eric Chavze- Oakland A's

Outfield-
Suzuki, I. Mariners
Ramirez, M. Red Sox
Nixon, T- Red Sox (hes hitting .316 and has 4 errors...pretty impressive)

Shortstop-
A-Rod-better fielding
Nomar-better everything else

Pitching-
Pedro (when hes healthy)
Esteban Loaiza

Swimfan85
06-29-2003, 09:10 PM
Catcher- Jason Varitek- he has better batting stats then Poseda and throws out more runners

Truth
06-29-2003, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by Swimfan85


2nd Base-
Bret Boone- Seattle Mariners
Todd Walker- Boston Red Sox (sorta iffy cuz he does have 10 errors already but there arent many strong 2b's like Bret Boone and Soriano also has 10 errors but Walker has better batting numbers)


Todd walker has better batting numbers then Soriano?

Pedantic
06-29-2003, 09:48 PM
AL:

C--Jorge Posada, NYY
1B--Carlos Delgado, TOR
2B--Alfonso Soriano, NYY
3B--Troy Glaus, ANA
SS--Alex Rodriguez, TEX
OF--Manny Ramirez, BOS
OF--Carlos Beltran, KC
OF--Vernon Wells, TOR
DH--Edgar Martinez, SEA
P--Mike Mussina, NYY

NL:

C--Javy Lopez, ATL
1B--Todd Helton, COL
2B--Jeff Kent, HOU
3B--Scott Rolen, STL
SS--Rafael Furcal, ATL
OF--Albert Pujols, STL
OF--Lance Berkman, HOU
OF--Gary Sheffield, ATL
P--Hideo Nomo, LA

I think that about covers it...

Swimfan85
06-29-2003, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by AAOT
Todd walker has better batting numbers then Soriano?

Todd Walker
Games- 74
At Bats- 312
Runs- 58
Hits- 98
2b- 19
3b- 2
hr- 8
RB1- 46
BB- 27
S0- 27
OBP- 363
SLU- 465
AVG- 314

Soriano-
Games-79
At Bats-357
Runs-66
Hits- 103
2b-12
3b-3
hr-21
RBI-48
BB-23
SO-68
OBP-340
SLU-.515
AVG-.289

Swimfan85
06-29-2003, 10:02 PM
Jorge Poseda SUCKS

Truth
06-29-2003, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Swimfan85
Todd Walker
Games- 74
At Bats- 312
Runs- 58
Hits- 98
2b- 19
3b- 2
hr- 8
RB1- 46
BB- 27
S0- 27
OBP- 363
SLU- 465
AVG- 314

Soriano-
Games-79
At Bats-357
Runs-66
Hits- 103
2b-12
3b-3
hr-21
RBI-48
BB-23
SO-68
OBP-340
SLU-.515
AVG-.289


Soriano More runs, Hits, Homers, RBI's, And of course Steals

Truth
06-29-2003, 10:05 PM
Walker has been doing good though lately Ill admit that...

Swimfan85
06-29-2003, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by AAOT
Soriano More runs, Hits, Homers, RBI's, And of course Steals


he also has over 40 more ab's to get those too...and stealing doesnt have to do with hitting, but I am not trying to bash Soriano cuz there is no doubt that he is a good young player but this year, or up to this point in the year I think that Todd Walker is doing better

Swimfan85
06-29-2003, 10:12 PM
but honestly, I REALLY REALLY think JORGE POSADA IS NOT GOOD AND JASON VARITEK IS MUCH BETTER

Pavan
06-29-2003, 11:37 PM
My AL starters:

C--Jorge Posada, NYY
1B--Carlos Delgado, TOR
2B--Alfonso Soriano, NYY
3B--Hank Blalock, TEX
SS--Alex Rodriguez, TEX
OF--Ichiro Suzuki, SEA
OF--Garret Anderson, ANA
OF--Vernon Wells, TOR
DH--Carl Everett, TEX
P--Roger Clemens, NYY

Bench: Jason Giambi, Carlos Beltran, Bret Boone, Manny Ramirez, Eric Chavez, Nomar Garciaparra, Melvin Mora, Milton Bradley, AJ Pierziensky. (And if were healthy this first half: Bernie Williams & Derek Jeter)
Pitchers: Mussina, Loaiza, Halladay, Pedro Martinez, Moyer, Ponson, Mulder, Mariano Rivera, MacDougal, Guardado, Foulke


My NL starters:

C--Javy Lopez, ATL
1B--Todd Helton, COL
2B--Jeff Kent, HOU
3B--Mike Lowell, FLA
SS--Edgar Renteria, STL
OF--Albert Pujols, STL
OF--Jim Edmonds, STL
OF--Barry Bonds, SF
DH--Gary Shefield, ATL
P--Kevin Brown, LA

Bench: Scott Rolen, Corey Patterson, Preston Wilson, Andruw Jones, Richie Sexson, Luis Gonzalez, Geoff Jenkins, Orlando Cabrera, Jim Thome, Paul LoDuca.
Pitchers: Prior, Schmidt, Wood, Nomo, Chacon, Woody Williams, Dontrelle Willis, Gagne, Smoltz, Worrell, Billy Wagner.
(If were healthy in first half: Schilling and Randy Johnson)

JTC
06-30-2003, 01:31 PM
My ALL-STARS

NL
C - J. Lopez, ATL
1B- R. Sexson, MIL
2B- J. Kent, HOU
SS- E. Renteria, STL
3B- S. Rolen, STL
OF- B. Bonds, SF
OF- A. Pujols, STL
OF- G. Sheffield, ATL
SP- Nomo, Wood, Willis, Shawn Chacon, Randy Wolf
RP- Gagne, Smoltz, Wagner, Rocky Biddle
Bench: Jim Thome, Mike Lowell, Orlando Cabrera, Cliff Floyd, Sammy Sosa, Adam Dunn, Brian Giles, Luis Gonzalez, Preston Wilson, Ryan Klesko

AL
C- Jorge Posada, NYY
1B- Carlos Delgado, TOR
2B- Alfonso Soriano, NYY
SS- Alex Rodriguez, TEX
3B- Eric Chavez, OAK
OF- Ichiro, SEA
OF- Vernon Wells, TOR
OF- Manny Ramirez, BOS
DH- Erubiel Durazo, OAK
SP- Roy Halladay, Barry Zito, Mark Mulder, David Wells, Jamie Moyer, Gil Meche, CC Sabathia
RP- Keith Foulke, Eddie Guardado
Bench: Kevin Millar, Melvin Mora, Jay Gibbons, Aubrey Huff, Mike Sweeney, Carlos Beltran, Dmitri Young, Garrett Andersen

mcgwirefan
06-30-2003, 01:39 PM
The announcers said yesterday at our game that the Atlanta broadcaster said it shoud be the Seattle Mariners against the Braves and forget everone else. ITA, but that might be the WS.

AL
1st- John Olerud
2nd -Brett Boone
3rd -Troy Glaus
SS- Nomar
C - Dan Wilson
OF- Ichiro, Mike Cameron & Darin Erstad
DH- Edgar Martinez
Pitcher-Gil Meche

NL
1st- Todd Helton
2nd- Jeff Kent
3rd-Scott Rolen
SS-Edgar Renteria
C-LoDucha
OF-The Cardinals, Edmonds, Pujols, Drew
Pitcher-Mike (or Matt?) Pryor

Truth
06-30-2003, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by mcgwirefan
The announcers said yesterday at our game that the Atlanta broadcaster said it shoud be the Seattle Mariners against the Braves and forget everone else. ITA, but that might be the WS.


They said that over here on the mariners game as well lol... I like that idea :) ah well we will get it in october..

JTC
06-30-2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by mcgwirefan

Pitcher-Mike (or Matt?) Pryor

Neither Mike nor Matt....It is Mark Prior.

Swimfan85
07-04-2003, 08:03 PM
Jason Varitek deserves to be there!! so much more then jorge

Small Wonderian
07-04-2003, 08:07 PM
I can't wait for this year's All Star Game. This year it will determine which league will get home field advantage in the World Series (hopefully the NL - I want the Atlanta Braves to represent the NL in the World Series). :D

I hated last year's 7-7 tie. They should make a rule that you can come back into the game if you're substituted.

Swimfan85
07-04-2003, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by amp2k3


I hated last year's 7-7 tie. They should make a rule that you can come back into the game if you're substituted.


omg that made me so mad!!!!

Kitt
07-04-2003, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by amp2k3
I can't wait for this year's All Star Game. This year it will determine which league will get home field advantage in the World Series (hopefully the NL - I want the Atlanta Braves to represent the NL in the World Series). :D

I hated last year's 7-7 tie. They should make a rule that you can come back into the game if you're substituted. I am not at all fond of the World Series home field being determined by the outcome of the All Star game. The All Star game doesn't have anything to do with the teams that ultimatately battle their way into the World Series. Not a good idea; a promotional scheme that I hope will fall by the wayside.

I didn't like the game ending in a tie either. Poor managing caused that to happen. They shouldn't change the rule about substitutes coming back into the game, though. What managers should do is allow some of the pitchers to pitch more than one or two measly innings, and they sould keep most of the starting lineup in the game longer. More like they do in regular games. That way they wouldn't run out of players and pitchers if the game goes into extra innings. They didn't use to do this thing where they try to get everyone into the game like they do now. That why they used up all of their players before the game ended. That's a Little League mentality of managing. Major leaguers aren't going to cry if they happen to not get to play, lol.

Small Wonderian
07-04-2003, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by Kitt
I am not at all fond of the World Series home field being determined by the outcome of the All Star game. The All Star game doesn't have anything to do with the teams that ultimatately battle their way into the World Series. Not a good idea; a promotional scheme that I hope will fall by the wayside.

I didn't like the game ending in a tie either. Poor managing caused that to happen. They shouldn't change the rule about substitutes coming back into the game, though. What managers should do is allow some of the pitchers to pitch more than one or two measly innings, and they sould keep most of the starting lineup in the game longer. More like they do in regular games. That way they wouldn't run out of players and pitchers if the game goes into extra innings. They didn't use to do this thing where they try to get everyone into the game like they do now. That why they used up all of their players before the game ended. That's a Little League mentality of managing. Major leaguers aren't going to cry if they happen to not get to play, lol.

I wouldn't think that this year's All-Star Game would determine next year's home advantage in the All-Star Game since the AL and NL usually alternate locations each year.

Here's the last 11 hosts of the MLB All-Star Game:

1992 - Pittsburgh (Three Rivers Stadium) NL
1993 - Baltimore (Oriole Park at Camden Yards) AL
1994 - San Diego (Qualcomm Stadium) NL
1995 - Texas (The Ballpark In Arlington) AL
1996 - Philadelphia (Veterans Stadium) NL
1997 - Cleveland (Jacobs Field) AL
1998 - Colorado (Coors Field) NL
1999 - Boston (Fenway Park) AL
2000 - Atlanta (Turner Field) NL
2001 - Seattle (Safeco Field) AL
2002 - Milwaukee (Miller Park) NL
2003 - Chicago White Sox (U.S. Cellular Field) AL
2004 - ? to be determined (at an NL stadium)

Also, maybe the pitchers could pitch more than 1 or 2 innings, but the players could also play more than 1 or 2 innings, so either way could work.

Kitt
07-04-2003, 10:02 PM
I know they alternate from American to National in the All Star games. I don't know why you are bringing that up in reply to what I wrote.? The new deal is that the all star game will determine the home-field advantage in the World Series. That's what I think is a bad idea.

Small Wonderian
07-04-2003, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Kitt
I know they alternate from American to National in the All Star games. I don't know why you are bringing that up in reply to what I wrote.? The new deal is that the all star game will determine the home-field advantage in the World Series. That's what I think is a bad idea.


Why? I personally see it as the All-Star Game is still fun for the players playing it and the fans watching it, but now there is actually something to play for and what could be better than the home-field advantage in the World Series.

Really and truly, if a team is good, then they could win The World Series whether they had home-field advantage in the World Series or not, but I would just feel more comfortable knowing that my team has more home games than my opponent.

Kitt
07-04-2003, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by amp2k3
Why? I personally see it as the All-Star Game is still fun for the players playing it and the fans watching it, but now there is actually something to play for and what could be better than the home-field advantage in the World Series.

Really and truly, if a team is good, then they could win The World Series whether they had home-field advantage in the World Series or not, but I would just feel more comfortable knowing that my team has more home games than my opponent. Actually, there used to be something to play for. The teams and players played to win the All Star game. Like I said before, they didn't used to make so many substitutions like they do now. They got most of the players into the game still but there was an intense seriousness and pride about winning the game. Now it seems like little more than an exibition game which to me, holds little interest. I like to see major leagers play to win.

The reason I don't like the All Star game having any bearing on the World Series home-field advantage is because there is no direct connection. Most of the players in the all star game won't be going to the World Series, and they pretty well know that at the time of the All Star break. They don't care if the team that beats them out of a chance to go to the World Series gets the home-field advantage. It doesn't make sense to have that riding on the outcome of the All Star game. But, we'll see if the managers play to win more so than they have in the past years. If they do, then that would be an improvement.