The Episode-Lionel Moves IN , George made a statement that he wish he didn't live next door to Archie. And then Archie says-"What a prejudice man"-LOL Anyone find it strange that Archie actually fixed his lips to say that? Was it that Archie was shcked to come across a Black Man like him?

Originally posted by SOLOMON
The Episode-Lionel Moves IN , George made a statement that he wish he didn't live next door to Archie. And then Archie says-"What a prejudice man"-LOL Anyone find it strange that Archie actually fixed his lips to say that? Was it that Archie was shcked to come across a Black Man like him?

LOL. Yes I think he was shocked to come across a black man like him. He probably thinks that only white people reserve the right to be prejudice, and he can't imagine why any black man being prejudice of him, a white man. Oh gosh, was Archie one ding-a-ling.

Originally posted by Cashodeen


LOL. Yes I think he was shocked to come across a black man like him. He probably thinks that only white people reserve the right to be prejudice, and he can't imagine why any black man being prejudice of him, a white man. Oh gosh, was Archie one ding-a-ling.


Archie and George in the same scene was Funny with a capital F.

Originally posted by SOLOMON

Archie and George in the same scene was Funny with a capital F.

Definitely. I think the show was best when George was on it. And I liked Lionel as well. I would have liked to see Archie go on the Jeffersons for at least an episode.

Originally posted by Cashodeen


Definitely. I think the show was best when George was on it. And I liked Lionel as well. I would have liked to see Archie go on the Jeffersons for at least an episode.


Yeah I feel the same. After the Jeffersons left AITF, George and Louise came back to AITF to visit in 1978 and 1979. BUt there was never a visit from Edith or Archie on the Jeffersons

Originally posted by SOLOMON
BUt there was never a visit from Edith or Archie on the Jeffersons
I wonder why. That would have been hilarious. I can see Flo and Archie going at it, lol.
Did Archie meet the Willis' at the Jefferson's old house on AITF? I seem to recall Archie making a crack about their interracial marriage or I could have dreamt it.

Originally posted by Janice
I wonder why. That would have been hilarious. I can see Flo and Archie going at it, lol.
Did Archie meet the Willis' at the Jefferson's old house on AITF? I seem to recall Archie making a crack about their interracial marriage or I could have dreamt it.


Archie did meet the Willises but it was two different people. And it was also a different Jenny until the pilot of the Jeffersons. I don't think Archie would have visited the Jeffersons because he wasn't friends with George and Louise. So i think it would have only been Edith visiting Louise or Mike visting Lionel.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Archie did meet the Willises but it was two different people. And it was also a different Jenny until the pilot of the Jeffersons. I don't think Archie would have visited the Jeffersons because he wasn't friends with George and Louise. So i think it would have only been Edith visiting Louise or Mike visting Lionel. They could have had an accidental meeting rather than a visit. Or maybe Mke and Gloria could have set them all up without their knowing. Sitcoms are always pulling the surprise meeting trick. I wonder if there were contractual reasons why they never found a way to get them together. It seems as though it would have been one of those 'all time most viewed sitcom episodes'! Too bad.

Originally posted by Kitt
They could have had an accidental meeting rather than a visit. Or maybe Mke and Gloria could have set them all up without their knowing. Sitcoms are always pulling the surprise meeting trick. I wonder if there were contractual reasons why they never found a way to get them together. It seems as though it would have been one of those 'all time most viewed sitcom episodes'! Too bad.



I can see Archie saying to George if he had visited the Jeffersons, "NICE PLACE YOU HAVE HERE JEFFERSON"

Or maybe they could've done, like, a reverse thing with the "The First and Last Supper" episode in the first season. Except, Archie really show up t the Jefferson's.

Originally posted by ConservativeBaller
Or maybe they could've done, like, a reverse thing with the "The First and Last Supper" episode in the first season. Except, Archie really show up t the Jefferson's.


I just don't understand why they had George and Louise return to All in the Damily In 1978 and 1979, but never having Archie or Edith go to Manhattan

That would have been good. Archie could have worn his plaid-type coat out there. Archie would have loved the limey Bentley and getting hit up for a type by the door man.

Archie and Edith never visited Manhattan and "The Jeffersons" because at that point Carroll O'Connor was too big of a star to appear on anyone else's show but his own. It was a status thing -- if anyone was going to do the visiting, it would be Isabel Sanford and Sherman Hemsley coming back to "All in the Family", not the other way around.

Carroll did appear in the unaired "Gloria" pilot, but he was producing the show and had a vested interest in appearing.

Originally posted by TV Guy
Archie and Edith never visited Manhattan and "The Jeffersons" because at that point Carroll O'Connor was too big of a star to appear on anyone else's show but his own. It was a status thing -- if anyone was going to do the visiting, it would be Isabel Sanford and Sherman Hemsley coming back to "All in the Family", not the other way around.

Carroll did appear in the unaired "Gloria" pilot, but he was producing the show and had a vested interest in appearing.


I don't know if I can agree. Fonzie from Happy Days was a Big star and he appeared in all the Haapy spinoffs as a guest.

Oh man, I love "unknown" and "un-aired" stuff in Sitcoms.

I think they should make a channel completely devoted to "Unaired" crap, and unknowns in Sitcoms and Sitcoms only. If there's a freakin' channel completely devoted to Fly Fishing, come on...

Now *that* would be a channel I would watch, if it existed. :)
-Kristi

Originally posted by TV Guy
Archie and Edith never visited Manhattan and "The Jeffersons" because at that point Carroll O'Connor was too big of a star to appear on anyone else's show but his own. It was a status thing -- if anyone was going to do the visiting, it would be Isabel Sanford and Sherman Hemsley coming back to "All in the Family", not the other way around.

Carroll did appear in the unaired "Gloria" pilot, but he was producing the show and had a vested interest in appearing.

Unfortuneately, you are probably right. Carroll was a great guy but I know he had a big ego over creative control with Norman Lear and so he also could have felt he was too big to make guest appearances on Jeffersons, Maude, or any spinoffs. Its too bad because seeing Archie with Florence, Bentley and the Willis at the Jeffersons new digs would have been hilarious.

And remember that once the unaired "Gloria" pilot was shelved, Carroll was upset over the loss of creative control and never appeared on "Gloria" - which was a big reason the show only lasted a season.