He actually was trying to tell the female cast members who they can and cannot date. I always knew Bill Cosby was a wackball but i didn't know he was that crazy. He was supposed to be upset because Lisa Bonet was dating Lenny Kravitz. Was Cosby her real father? How the hell could he tell Lisa what to do off the set? It was reported that her romance with Kravitz was doing something to the image of the show which made Cosby upset. But who cares? If I was Lisa Bonet, i would have told him "Who the hell do you think u are to tell me who i can fall in love with? I'm sorry but Bill had no business interfering in Lisa's personal life off the set. I think Lisa's parents should have confronted Bill Cosby about this. Anyone Agree?

I Dunno...he sounds like he really liked her.:lol: and was being protective.i'm prolly wronge JMO

Originally posted by TheFonzIsCool
I Dunno...he sounds like he really liked her.:lol: and was being protective.i'm prolly wronge JMO

He still had no right to speak about who Lisa Bonet was dating. No one has control over who they fall in love with.

I don't think Bill was trying to rule her life. I think that he just wanted the best for her.

Superbatboy I don't think Bill was trying to rule her life. I think that he just wanted the best for her.


Or for his show!

I think if Bill tried to control Lisa Bonet's life for the sake of the show it is wrong, because Bill isn't her dad. And who is to say what's ruining the image of the show, and even if they do know what's ruining it, it still isn't up to Bill to try and control the personal life of Lisa, or any one else on the show for that matter. BUT it is on Lisa to look at the effect it had on the show and think about it, which she might have or not. Then out of respect for bill and everything he did for her and her career then decide how to go about her actions. But that still shouldn't be under Bill's control. I'll have to side with Solomon on that one.
p.s Does anyone know when they will show that again?, i really wanna see it.

Also on E Hollywood True Story... I didn't like how they always had bad things to say about Lisa Bonet on tv.... talking about she showed up late for shows & had a nasty attitude & they said it in the holier than thou attitude! They don't know what could have been going on with her.... It just seemed like they tried to make her out to be some bad person! I'm sure she did some good things too but they failed to mention it.

I think that Bill Cosby shouldn't of told them who and who not to date but I guess he was looking after them and the show's reputation so I guess i'm on both sides.

Just like someone had mentioned, Bill Cosby wanted the best for his show. He didn't want his show to end up like others. Whatever he did worked because The Cosby Show was very successful. If you think about it, he actually gave Lisa Bonet another chance by giving her her own show, A Different World. It was a spin off of The Cosby Show for Lisa Bonet, but she ended up living that.

Originally posted by Superbatboy
I don't think Bill was trying to rule her life. I think that he just wanted the best for her.

Ditto.

Sure He might have tried to do the best for her, but is that really his place. And even if it is his place to have an opinion because he was a major part of her life, i don't think he still has the right to use the show as leverage in her making a decision.It might have been just his concern for the show, but he should be more concerned for denise's happiness, no? This is someone he's seen grown up from young, and if she's happy then shouldn't he?

I don't know much about Bill, but from what I hear, he's bad news. Or a wackball, as SOLOMON said. LOL. I think if the truth were well known (which it probably never will be because Cosby is the Comedy God to some people and they must protect protect protect), Bill Cosby is nothing but a preachy, holier than thou, control freak. I still want to know why Cockroach left. Oh yes, let's keep it on the down low by saying Bill disapproved of his hair style. PLEASE. I want the truth. What really went on. Low and Behold, if Cockroach was the dirty dog, we'd know about it. Bill had issues and he was probably at fault. And, hey, if Cockroach was canned simply because of his hair, Bill still had issues. Crazy fool.

And now I hear he was telling Lisa who to date. Holy geez! He makes me ill. And I don't agree that he wanted what was best for the show, and it worked because the show was successful because of it. Many shows are successful but their is chaos behind the scenes. I don't know how much chaos went on behind the Cosby Show, but you don't tell your cast members who they can and can't date. That's not how you do business.

Sure, I see why some say he was maybe looking out for her and had her best interest at heart. I just have a sneaky suspicion Bill was only trying to dominate because he probably thinks he is just such a together dude--simply must control the weak and foolish!

Yes, he gave her chances, but good things don't make up for the bad. She's always talked about negatively and looked at negatively in the cast's eyes, and Bill is the ring leader, I'm sure.

Yes, I sound harsh. Like I said, I don't know about Bill too much, and I didn't actually see this E! story. So this could all speculation.

Originally posted by Cashodeen
I don't know much about Bill, but from what I hear, he's bad news. Or a wackball, as SOLOMON said. LOL. I think if the truth were well known (which it probably never will be because Cosby is the Comedy God to some people and they must protect protect protect), Bill Cosby is nothing but a preachy, holier than thou, control freak. I still want to know why Cockroach left. Oh yes, let's keep it on the down low by saying Bill disapproved of his hair style. PLEASE. I want the truth. What really went on. Low and Behold, if Cockroach was the dirty dog, we'd know about it. Bill had issues and he was probably at fault. And, hey, if Cockroach was canned simply because of his hair, Bill still had issues. Crazy fool.

And now I hear he was telling Lisa who to date. Holy geez! He makes me ill. And I don't agree that he wanted what was best for the show, and it worked because the show was successful because of it. Many shows are successful but their is chaos behind the scenes. I don't know how much chaos went on behind the Cosby Show, but you don't tell your cast members who they can and can't date. That's not how you do business.

Sure, I see why some say he was maybe looking out for her and had her best interest at heart. I just have a sneaky suspicion Bill was only trying to dominate because he probably thinks he is just such a together dude--simply must control the weak and foolish!

Yes, he gave her chances, but good things don't make up for the bad. She's always talked about negatively and looked at negatively in the cast's eyes, and Bill is the ring leader, I'm sure.

Yes, I sound harsh. Like I said, I don't know about Bill too much, and I didn't actually see this E! story. So this could all speculation.


Plus Theo needed a hair cut too so i don't buy that he wouldn't get a haircut.

Vanessa REALLY needed a haircut during the 5th season with that dirty afro.

Originally posted by Superbatboy
Vanessa REALLY needed a haircut during the 5th season with that dirty afro.


Exactly, you brung up another good point. I forgot about Vanessa's weird Afro. I guess she didn't need a haircut-LOL

Originally posted by SOLOMON
Plus Theo needed a hair cut too so i don't buy that he wouldn't get a haircut.

Exactly. The real truth is hidden somewhere, and since it never came out, I think Bill was to blame somehow.

And how did you forget Vanessa's crazy ass hair? You're the one who's always talking about it, right? LOL. Like I said a long time ago on here, if Cockroach was REALLY fired because of his hair, the Vanessa should have been gone too.

Well, Vanessa's hair was just something that i don't think could be desribed with words, the closest thing to describe that would still not have a alphabetical structure.More like a really bad feeling in your stomach would be similar to her hair. But hey, people look back at what they were wearing in the past and say DAMN, WHAT WAS I THINKING. Which i think is a very good example here.
About Bill being wacko, who knows, from what i know about him, he seemed to be a nice guy. But unless we know the exact facts you can't be really sure. you can think he was a psycho, or you can think he was a saint, without actual facts from the people who were there in person(and i mean you actually hearing the info from the person) you can't be sure. But i don't think just cause we don't know the full facts of what went on, that just shows how controlling he was, cuz we don't know that for sure. If that was the case, then maybe the reason why we don't know the real dirt is because there was none, but i don't know that just as i don't know the contrary. I would like to believe he's not what other people are saying, but i don't know that, so until i hear actual info then i'll stay with him being a good person that has made mistakes.That happens to everyone.

Originally posted by call-alluejah
Well, Vanessa's hair was just something that i don't think could be desribed with words, the closest thing to describe that would still not have a alphabetical structure.More like a really bad feeling in your stomach would be similar to her hair. But hey, people look back at what they were wearing in the past and say DAMN, WHAT WAS I THINKING. Which i think is a very good example here.
About Bill being wacko, who knows, from what i know about him, he seemed to be a nice guy. But unless we know the exact facts you can't be really sure. you can think he was a psycho, or you can think he was a saint, without actual facts from the people who were there in person(and i mean you actually hearing the info from the person) you can't be sure. But i don't think just cause we don't know the full facts of what went on, that just shows how controlling he was, cuz we don't know that for sure. If that was the case, then maybe the reason why we don't know the real dirt is because there was none, but i don't know that just as i don't know the contrary. I would like to believe he's not what other people are saying, but i don't know that, so until i hear actual info then i'll stay with him being a good person that has made mistakes.That happens to everyone.

I agree with you about Bill. You are right, people do make mistakes, and he could be a good person. :wave:

i think that bill just wanted the best for her and his show....... but he should let her date/marry whoever she wants.

I agree with the last post about this.:wave:

me too.

Okay- I saw the E! True Hollywood Story and I don't think they made Lisa Bonet out to be a bad person. If Lisa decided to not show up for rehearsals or show up late, that's her problem NOT Bill Cosby's. By the way, I recall them saying Lisa did not have a stable home life. Her mother never showed up to watch rehearsals like the other kid's parents did. Plus, her father was not in her life. Lisa did acknowledge she had a hard time anyway growing up biracial. I think he can be difficult growing up biracial with a white mother and black father and the father not be apart of your life. I think Bill Cosby tried to understand her circumstances and tried to be a surrogate dad which was not always his role to be. In a way, I think he was looking out for his show...but I did think he tried to look out for her best interest. Lisa was young and a teenager when she started the show. She was about 15. She was probably a brat. She was definitely not about to listen to Bill Cosby even if he were trying to give her good advice. He seem like Lisa just didn't have a firm foundation and Bill was trying to give that to her. But a 15, she didn't care what he had to say. C'mon, if her own father wasn't in her life, she definitely wasn't about to listen to someone like Bill Cosby had to say. Lisa Bonet was not a very responsible person. That was due to her background, not because of Bill Cosby. At the same time, Bill Cosby was a business man. He couldn't afford to let Lisa run him. He was doing the nice thing by even letting Lisa come back to the show after she married Lenny and had her baby. She was only like 20 or 21 at the time. I think Bill Cosby thought she was making a mistake by marrying and having a baby so young. He was trying to almost be the father Lisa never had and she couldn't handle that.

I saw the ETHS. While I think it was nice that Bill took an interest in the lives of his young cast, I think he overstepped with Lisa.
She met Lenny Kravitz, fell and love, married and had a baby. Suppose she listened to Bill and didn't get pregnant, she wouldn't have a 14-year old daughter whom I am sure she adores. It seems to me that Bill is a control freak.
I can understand Bill's point when he was angered at her posing topless and doing a sex scene in a movie. She was on a wholesome family show, and she shouldn't have done that in my opinion. She was a rebel for sure.
I don't know if moral's clauses still in exist in contracts, but I know celebrities used to have to sign them all the time. Basically, they had to conduct themselves properly at all times.
Celebrities and athletes lose acting jobs and endorsements over misbehavior all the time. I think if one of the teens from 8 Simple Rules, for example, posed topless or made sexy movies, they would catch hell for it.

It is true that Bill over stepped his boundaries with Lisa, but all of you have to Remember that the "E! True Hollywood Story" is not the best reliable source. They are biased towards people who will give them interviews or is willing to go on camera to trash somebody else. Trust me, don't believe everything they say in the ETHS They exaggerate EVERYTHING to great proportions to make everyone seem either bad or extremely good. They get certain people to interview (mostly people who's credibility is doubtful like a "make-up" artist) who have maybe a certain opinion about a cast member or the show. Then they find clips from the person they are trying to trash or from the show and edit them to only show maybe a section of an interview where the person was lashing out, but you don't hear the questions that lead up to the lash out or the question that they asked them...

The show basically, like ALL E! programming, is out to gossip or find the "juice" on celebreties etc. They are no better than a tabloid. A more reliable source would be the A&E biography special.

sorry double post

I am sorry for bringing up such a old thread, But I was wondering what would of happed if Phylicia Pose in a Nude Magazine or if she was in the Angel Heart Movie? Would she have been fired?

Well, I think Phylicia was smart enough not to do that, while Lisa was young and wild.