View Full Version : Here is the reason why VCR's are better than DVD's
TVFactFan 05-14-2003, 01:31 PM VCR's are better because you can record TV shows. You can't record TV shows on a DVD so that makes VCR's more useful than DVD's. Who cares about clearer picture, the fact that a DVD is unable to record off of TV serves me no purpose. Anyone Agree? If you don't agree-give a strong reason why.
Czas na Zywiec 05-14-2003, 02:14 PM You can get a whole season of episodes on one DVD opposed to fitting only 4 episodes a tape. You get special behind the scenes features and information. No fast forwarding. You just simply pick a scene where you want to start off, and no rewinding, so you're not wasting time looking for a certain scene. Plus, they do make DVD recorders, it's just that they're so expensive. Kind of like a CD Burner, but catering towards TV.
Crimson and Clover 05-14-2003, 02:17 PM i hate when i go in movie stores and stuff and all thjey have is freakin DVDs. not everybody owns DVD players.
Chad22 05-14-2003, 02:20 PM Originally posted by Original Prankster
You can get a whole season of episodes on one DVD opposed to fitting only 4 episodes a tape.
Actually i can fit 12. I Use SLP. Less quality, But more space.
I Like DVD's better though. I Like being able to skip scenes and episodes and stuff. Its Great.
*PinkLady* 05-14-2003, 02:22 PM Originally posted by Crimson_and_Clover
i hate when i go in movie stores and stuff and all thjey have is freakin DVDs. not everybody owns DVD players.
I know what you mean.
All the TV shows and movies I like? On DVD. Not on VHS. Guess what I don't have? A DVD player. :mad:
BrandonS 05-14-2003, 02:24 PM I resisted buying a DVD player until a few months ago. They can't record, and I'm sure the entertainment industry would just love to remove our ability to record from TV, and force us to buy everything in stores. The good news is that recordable DVDs are here. Unfortunately, there are still several DVD recording formats fighting it our for supremacy, but as soon as a winner emerges, I will have much less use for my VCR.
Mijada 05-14-2003, 02:25 PM Actually, I could have sworn that i saw a Best Buy ad that had DVD recorders for sale where you could record from the TV. I may be wrong though. I didn't pay much attention because they were quite expensive.
Czas na Zywiec 05-14-2003, 02:25 PM Originally posted by Chad Doody
Actually i can fit 12. I Use SLP. Less quality, But more space.
I Like DVD's better though. I Like being able to skip scenes and episodes and stuff. Its Great.
Well I can fit 17 using EP, but I hate the picture and the sound of it then. I fit about 160 episodes of a show onto 10 tapes. But I meant like buying a series on tape. They'll only put 4 episodes for the best quality.
Czas na Zywiec 05-14-2003, 02:27 PM Originally posted by Crimson_and_Clover
i hate when i go in movie stores and stuff and all thjey have is freakin DVDs. not everybody owns DVD players.
Amen. That's all they have at Blockbuster anymore, just rows and rows of DVD's. Then they have this one little section that has about 50 tapes and thats it. They don't even have the movies I like. I prefer DVD, but don't have the money to get one yet. Maybe after college.
Crimson and Clover 05-14-2003, 02:28 PM if i bought a dvd player id have to buy the one that has dvd and vhs;because i tape a lot of stuff and the dvd recorder would be more expensive. but yeah i dont have the money for either one of them.
GrapeJelly 05-14-2003, 02:37 PM I have a DVD Recorder and it records off of TV just like a VCR does. Just like a VHS cassette, you can tape on a disc in either SP (2 hours), LP (4 hours) or SLP (6 hours). There are even double-sided discs where you can get as much as 12 hours in. Discs are much more space efficient storagewise and if you buy them in bundle at www.shop4tech.com you can purchase them for as low as 66 cents a disc. It has an on-screen keypad where you can title your eps and create on-screen menus for your disc. No more writing on scratch paper or squeezing onto tiny labels to catalog what's on there. You can set a timer to record when you're not home. It can also be hooked up in conjunction with a VCR so you can transfer the VHS tapes you already have onto disc. The one and only drawback that I've encountered is that, unless you're using a rewriteable disc (which are more expensive), then once you record on the disc, that's it...you can't edit. You can erase an entire program but it eats up time on the disc. One of the cool advantages of a rewriteable disc, though, is that you can edit commercials out even if you weren't home when the program recorded. That's about all I know about the machine as I got it very recently, but overall it's really pretty cool.
TVFactFan 05-14-2003, 02:42 PM Originally posted by Original Prankster
You can get a whole season of episodes on one DVD opposed to fitting only 4 episodes a tape. You get special behind the scenes features and information. No fast forwarding. You just simply pick a scene where you want to start off, and no rewinding, so you're not wasting time looking for a certain scene. Plus, they do make DVD recorders, it's just that they're so expensive. Kind of like a CD Burner, but catering towards TV.
I know DVD has it's pluses but the big minus is the DVD that has a recorder is too expensive.
dawsongirl 05-14-2003, 02:45 PM Originally posted by SOLOMON
VCR's are better because you can record TV shows. You can't record TV shows on a DVD so that makes VCR's more useful than DVD's. Who cares about clearer picture, the fact that a DVD is unable to record off of TV serves me no purpose. Anyone Agree? If you don't agree-give a strong reason why.
Wanna see my DVD recorder? Wanna see what I've recorded off TV with it?? Clear as the digital signal it comes it on. :p Easy to use? Pretty much, though VCRs are easier to set and the tapes are cheaper by a lot. But anyway, your argument holds no water whatsoever.
TVFactFan 05-14-2003, 02:47 PM Originally posted by GrapeJelly
I have a DVD Recorder and it records off of TV just like a VCR does. Just like a VHS cassette, you can tape on a disc in either SP (2 hours), LP (4 hours) or SLP (6 hours). There are even double-sided discs where you can get as much as 12 hours in. Discs are much more space efficient storagewise and if you buy them in bundle at www.shop4tech.com you can purchase them for as low as 66 cents a disc. It has an on-screen keypad where you can title your eps and create on-screen menus for your disc. No more writing on scratch paper or squeezing onto tiny labels to catalog what's on there. You can set a timer to record when you're not home. It can also be hooked up in conjunction with a VCR so you can transfer the VHS tapes you already have onto disc. The one and only drawback that I've encountered is that, unless you're using a rewriteable disc (which are more expensive), then once you record on the disc, that's it...you can't edit. You can erase an entire program but it eats up time on the disc. One of the cool advantages of a rewriteable disc, though, is that you can edit commercials out even if you weren't home when the program recorded. That's about all I know about the machine as I got it very recently, but overall it's really pretty cool.
How much is the DVD with the recorder?
dawsongirl 05-14-2003, 02:47 PM Originally posted by GrapeJelly
It can also be hooked up in conjunction with a VCR so you can transfer the VHS tapes you already have onto disc.
I have done that soooooo much.
dawsongirl 05-14-2003, 02:48 PM Originally posted by SOLOMON
How much is the DVD with the recorder?
The recorder? Anywhere from $600-1200.
GrapeJelly 05-14-2003, 02:55 PM $699 at Best Buy, plus I got a $50 gift card cuz the purchase was over $250 (not sure if that promotion is running anymore). I've seen them go for a little under $500 on ebay, brand new and sealed, though I'd very very very carefully select a seller with a solidly reliable feedback reputation.
DVD Recorders are pretty expensive right now because they are new, but remember once upon a time VCRs were $500 too and now you can get a pretty nice Sony model for $150. Even pre-recorded movies were an arm and a leg back in the day at $79.99. Now you can get new releases for under $20. As the DVD Recorder slowly becomes more and more of a household item, I think the prices will drop just like the VCR's price did. Everyone will have DVD recorders eventually...then they'll release the next BIG thing! ;)
TVFactFan 05-14-2003, 03:03 PM Originally posted by dawsongirl
The recorder? Anywhere from $600-1200.
Too much for me
Georgia's on my Mind 05-14-2003, 03:23 PM i hate them both because my dvd is broken and my vcr wont record
TVFactFan 05-14-2003, 03:29 PM Originally posted by Georgia's on my Mind
i hate them both because my dvd is broken and my vcr wont record
Sounds like it's time for you to go to BesT Buy
Kay Scarpetta 05-14-2003, 03:36 PM I like either. I've got 2 VCRS and 3 DVD players and I use them all the same amount of time. DVDs are cool though with all the extra features
Brandon 05-14-2003, 03:38 PM Originally posted by dawsongirl
The recorder? Anywhere from $600-1200.
my brother's friend (who works at Radio Shack) says they sell 1 for 500! beat that. :lol:
Georgia's on my Mind 05-14-2003, 04:05 PM Originally posted by SOLOMON
Sounds like it's time for you to go to BesT Buy
Well, the vcr could be fixed, I just need to find out how
TVFactFan 05-14-2003, 04:13 PM Originally posted by Georgia's on my Mind
Well, the vcr could be fixed, I just need to find out how
I don't see the point of getting a VCR fixed when they run as cheap aS $49.99. My suggestion is for you to buy a new one.
dlemond 05-14-2003, 04:35 PM Originally posted by Brandon
my brother's friend (who works at Radio Shack) says they sell 1 for 500! beat that. :lol:
I have read that by Christmas you can get a dvd recorder for as low as $400.00.
Trust me on this one - in 3 - 4 years most of you will have a dvd recorder.
Crimson and Clover 05-14-2003, 04:44 PM Originally posted by dawsongirl
The recorder? Anywhere from $600-1200.
well i wont be buying one of them anytime soon.
-*Leah*- 05-14-2003, 05:35 PM I have both, but I like my vcr better. I like it better though, only because of taping purposes. I like seeing all the extra scenes on DVD's !
Titania 05-14-2003, 05:42 PM only reason i like VCRs better is because i have an insane number of VHS tapes and it would take years to switch them all over
TVFactFan 05-14-2003, 05:45 PM Originally posted by Titania
only reason i like VCRs better is because i have an insane number of VHS tapes and it would take years to switch them all over
Same here-i have several VHS tapes.
Georgia's on my Mind 05-14-2003, 06:04 PM Originally posted by SOLOMON
I don't see the point of getting a VCR fixed when they run as cheap aS $49.99. My suggestion is for you to buy a new one.
it works...but i just need to not fix it, but find out to hook it up to sattelite so it tapes...
GrapeJelly 05-14-2003, 06:12 PM Originally posted by Titania
only reason i like VCRs better is because i have an insane number of VHS tapes and it would take years to switch them all over
I am slowly but surely realizing it just might take the rest of my life to transfer all this crap! :lol:
dawsongirl 05-14-2003, 09:26 PM Originally posted by GrapeJelly
I am slowly but surely realizing it just might take the rest of my life to transfer all this crap! :lol:
Me too!
dawsongirl 05-14-2003, 09:28 PM Originally posted by Georgia's on my Mind
it works...but i just need to not fix it, but find out to hook it up to sattelite so it tapes...
It's easy. Let me know if you need help.
Tuesday Weld 05-14-2003, 09:32 PM I guess I really wouldn't know,since I don't have a DVD player/recorder. :(
pandora_spocks 05-14-2003, 09:35 PM Originally posted by GrapeJelly
I have a DVD Recorder and it records off of TV just like a VCR does. Just like a VHS cassette, you can tape on a disc in either SP (2 hours), LP (4 hours) or SLP (6 hours). There are even double-sided discs where you can get as much as 12 hours in. Discs are much more space efficient storagewise and if you buy them in bundle at www.shop4tech.com you can purchase them for as low as 66 cents a disc. It has an on-screen keypad where you can title your eps and create on-screen menus for your disc. No more writing on scratch paper or squeezing onto tiny labels to catalog what's on there. You can set a timer to record when you're not home. It can also be hooked up in conjunction with a VCR so you can transfer the VHS tapes you already have onto disc. The one and only drawback that I've encountered is that, unless you're using a rewriteable disc (which are more expensive), then once you record on the disc, that's it...you can't edit. You can erase an entire program but it eats up time on the disc. One of the cool advantages of a rewriteable disc, though, is that you can edit commercials out even if you weren't home when the program recorded. That's about all I know about the machine as I got it very recently, but overall it's really pretty cool.
Wow! I'm about to go get one of those DVD recorders so I can put Bewitched on DVD instead of VCD or VHS.
DarleneIllyria 05-14-2003, 09:57 PM I have both and I use my vcrs and my dvd players. I don't really care about a dvd recorder. I'm fine using my vcr to record stuff. I'm almost done with the shows I really want because I'm starting to tape very little each week. Dvds last longer and are just easier to use, but I'm happy with both.
Tuesday Weld 05-14-2003, 10:10 PM For me,a VCR does just fine,for my needs.
AnaheimPMWitch 05-15-2003, 12:51 AM I have both but I prefer DVDs the picture quality is just better
SBTB Geek 05-15-2003, 02:10 AM I have TiVo, which automactically records programs digitally (without using tape), and it also records them without the commericials. When I watch my recorded TV show (on DVD quality) I also record the show onto a DVD at the same time.
The quality is practically perfect.
theshark8777 05-15-2003, 07:07 AM Originally posted by SBTB Geek
I have TiVo, which automactically records programs digitally (without using tape), and it also records them without the commericials. When I watch my recorded TV show (on DVD quality) I also record the show onto a DVD at the same time.
The quality is practically perfect.
Amen! I have Tivo and a DVDR for the computer that i got for $150 after rebates. I like putting it in the computer first so I can edit the commercials easier. But it blows VHS away. I don't know how your Tivo records without commercials though. I have a Replay that skips most of the commercials but my Tivo doesn't do anything like that.
Brandon 05-15-2003, 08:16 AM Originally posted by dlemond
Trust me on this one - in 3 - 4 years most of you will have a dvd recorder.
ur a good person for saying that. i want 1 so bad!
Rockapella722 05-15-2003, 10:33 PM Remember how expensive DVD players used to be in the beginning? I got my second DVD player in October for 100.00!
It's just like every fad... Playstation, DVD players, cell phones, tamigotchis... all retardedly expensive at first, then everyone will have one. DVDRs are not far off from being a common household item.
However, I really need a combo for the living room. A combo VHS/DVD player/DVDR would be nice. I always wanna watch movies in the living room, but the movies I want to watch at odd times I only have on VHS, so I have to go in my room. Unless someone knows where to get The Brave Little Toaster on DVD... :)
Pitooey 05-16-2003, 11:04 PM What I like about the DVD is you can play your DVD music :music: if you want too. I really like that. :)
DVD's give us extra tidbits about the movies or shows I also like that. But, I really never
had any problems with VCR's.
Sean Snow 05-16-2003, 11:53 PM I got a DVD player in December 2002 after getting a lot of episodes of Dark Shadows on DVD and I was blown away by the quality. DVD is a lot better than VHS; in fact I recently watched an episode of DS in B&W on VHS and I thought there was something wrong with the tape because it didn't look nearly as good as the DVDs.
Hopefully the prices for DVDRs will go down soon. It'd be great to record on DVD and transfer from VHS to DVD. It would take forever to convert everything to DVD though. Oh well. I just want the things to get cheaper.
I had a VCR/DVD player until February, and it was wermish. The first one I got in December wouldn't pick up all of the channels I get, and the second one I got a few days afterwards after returning the old one made recorded tapes look grainy after I had been using the DVD. I prefer having them seperate, but that's just how I feel. ^-^ Maybe it was just the VCR/DVD combo I was using. *shrug*
MandieR1980 05-17-2003, 02:38 AM I got a Tivo 80 hour for XMas and I haven't used my VCR (it's hooked up out in the living room incase there's something I need to tape while Tivo is recording something) since and I hate VHS tapes (I can't tell you how many of those get ruined in my vcr) and love DVD my collection is getting bigger and bigger LOL
TVFactFan 05-17-2003, 10:13 AM Originally posted by MandieR1980
I got a Tivo 80 hour for XMas and I haven't used my VCR (it's hooked up out in the living room incase there's something I need to tape while Tivo is recording something) since and I hate VHS tapes (I can't tell you how many of those get ruined in my vcr) and love DVD my collection is getting bigger and bigger LOL
Well how much is the blank DVD's?
Sean Snow 05-17-2003, 11:51 AM Originally posted by SOLOMON
Well how much is the blank DVD's?
It depends. I think I saw a pack with 2 or 3 recordable DVDs for $10 at Target last week.
TVFactFan 05-17-2003, 11:55 AM Originally posted by Sean Snow
It depends. I think I saw a pack with 2 or 3 recordable DVDs for $10 at Target last week.
Well i guess whenever a DVD recorder comes down in price, i may consider buying one.
theshark8777 05-17-2003, 01:03 PM Best Buy has a 5 pack for $5 right now. but they are usually about $2.00 a disc.
Dude111 07-22-2021, 02:50 AM VCR's are better because you can record TV shows. You can't record TV shows on a DVD so that makes VCR's more useful than DVD's. Who cares about clearer picture, the fact that a DVD is unable to record off of TV serves me no purpose. Anyone Agree? If you don't agree-give a strong reason why.Yes and its more natural looking..... CDs look sterile and flat........
I prefer a more natural/warm experience :)
VHS was already on its last legs in 2003, with the last major VHS film release just three years later. I'm looking forward to the return of the "8-track forever! CD never!" thread from 1983.
An aside, VHS was always a bad format, even when compared to other home video technology of its time. I stopped using it more than 20 years ago. I can't believe that, in the era of HD and 4K, people are still clinging to the laughable idea that VHS looks more "natural" and "warm."
1960'sTVfan 07-22-2021, 04:43 PM I use both formats, VHS and DVD although DVD is now mostly my main format and VHS is secondary.
Dude111 07-22-2021, 08:48 PM Im glad ya still have your VCR buddy :)
GentlemanJim 07-22-2021, 09:29 PM I was seriously into VHS for a number of years. Had 2 high end S-VHS decks and could do a pretty good job of making the copies I wanted.
Then "Multimedia" became the next big thing for personal computers, so I remember spending big to put a decent video capture card in my computer, so that I could play with video editing software with my old movies from VHS. Went all out with a RAID hard disk set up just to get maximal capture rate.
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Amazing what a decent DVD recorder cost back in those days, and blank disks were absurdly costly, as well.
Now DVD recorders and blank disks are so cheap, and copying things is so easy, that it is amazing how far we have come...what used to take hours to accomplish can be done in just a couple clicks
GentlemanJim 07-22-2021, 09:34 PM I can't believe that, in the era of HD and 4K, people are still clinging to the laughable idea that VHS looks more "natural" and "warm."
I think that digital compression can result in visible artifacts on some materials. I suspect that is what the critics complain about.
It used to tick me off the way you could have on-screen text that looked fine on a VHS tape, but once you copied it to digital the anti-aliasing got all whacked, making it look like a 3rd grader made the tape
dawsongirl 07-22-2021, 09:46 PM Let's be honest - DVD recorders lasted about as long as Laser Disc players. They never really worked all that well (the first two I had were $1000 and were complete junk), and Tivo/DVRs came out right behind them. Consumers found those more practical.
All the recordings I used to have on VHS went to DVD because tape degrades over time and DVDs obviously too up less space. I spent soooo much money on DVDs that are now in a landfill somewhere because all my recordings now sit on MicroSD cards the size of my fingertip. I want that money back. lol
dawsongirl 07-22-2021, 09:48 PM VHS was already on its last legs in 2003, with the last major VHS film release just three years later. I'm looking forward to the return of the "8-track forever! CD never!" thread from 1983.
Transistor radios 4eva!
GentlemanJim 07-22-2021, 09:56 PM Amazing thing is, now even my laptop has a DVD recorder, and an HDMI output.And I find myself transferring movies via USB thumb drives.
dawsongirl 07-22-2021, 10:02 PM No computer I own (3 of them) even has an optical drive.
1960'sTVfan 07-22-2021, 10:56 PM Im glad ya still have your VCR buddy :)
Thank you, I actually have six VCR's, four that are in use and two others still unopened inside their boxes as backups in case one of the other machines conks out.
My TV show collection is all on DVD's but much of my movie collection is on VHS. I have hundreds of VHS tapes, some are about 40 years old and still play perfectly like new. VHS tapes can last quite a long time as long as the tape is of good quality and cassettes are stored properly in a cool and dry environment. TDK made good quality VHS cassettes, I used to buy TDK's all the time. Maxell also had good quality VHS cassettes.
I think that digital compression can result in visible artifacts on some materials. I suspect that is what the critics complain about.
It used to tick me off the way you could have on-screen text that looked fine on a VHS tape, but once you copied it to digital the anti-aliasing got all whacked, making it look like a 3rd grader made the tape
I never had an VHS-to-DVD recorder, so I couldn’t tell you. All I know is that when it’s mastered and encoded properly, a DVD is superior to VHS and Blu-ray is superior to DVD. (I switched to Blu-ray in 2009, but I’ve mostly done digital downloads and streaming the past several years.)
If you’re seeing digital artifacts, it means someone did a piss-poor job mastering it, or someone cut corners in the encoding and/or burning process.
GentlemanJim 07-22-2021, 11:14 PM Yeah, I've noticed that the newer systems usually do not have one. Been thinking about getting a new lappy. Probably have to buy an external. I've got mountains of personal archive stuff, game roms for mame, .mp3s, stuff like that.
1960'sTVfan 07-22-2021, 11:23 PM I think that digital compression can result in visible artifacts on some materials. I suspect that is what the critics complain about.
I believe dual-layer DVD's are preferred over the single-layer type. Single-layer has more compression and greater risk for visible artifacts.
I still have a VHS/DVD combo. I use the VHS to record shows I want to watch but do not want to save, like Dateline, 20/20 etc. You can keep recording over it until the tape wears out. We have a DVR but my husband took that over to record all his sport shows, etc. But if I want to keep a show I record it on a DVD and label it. It's hard for me to label a thumb/flash drive or sd card.
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