First they got me started with the interviews and stuff all over the internet,then it just stopped all together the premiere is supposed to be in the summer and summer is almost here:crazy: I'm going crazy cause Raven used to be everywhere and it seems her media fame is slowing down now everywhere I look there is Hilary Duff Lizzie McGuire HD LM etc(you get the point) :crazy: she just makes my stomach hurt :'(!I need more Raven

I don't know what's up the movie. My brother told me about it along time ago and I can't seem to find detail information on it..

This movie doesn't seem to get going anywhere. For more information about it go to, movies.yahoo.com.

I doubt Raven will ever reach the success of Hilary Duff.

Originally posted by SBTB Geek
This movie doesn't seem to get going anywhere. For more information about it go to, movies.yahoo.com.

I doubt Raven will ever reach the success of Hilary Duff.
You started off good how could you compare Hilary Duffs 2 yr old success to Raven's 16 yrs in the buisness:confused: Hilary Duff is a Britney Spears success meaning she is a fad!:lol: Whatever SBTB Geek you are sick man:lol: I like you though keep up the funny posts about Raven:lol: this guy cracks me up!

Originally posted by SBTB Geek
This movie doesn't seem to get going anywhere. For more information about it go to, movies.yahoo.com.

I doubt Raven will ever reach the success of Hilary Duff.

I'm sorry, but Hilary Duff is a freaking fad. Hilary Duff doesn't have any real talent. She can't act, she can't sing...

Originally posted by Ravey
Hilary Duff is a freaking fad. Hilary Duff doesn't have any real talent. She can't act, she can't sing..

You don't need actual talent to make it in the business--- all you need is LOOKS, that's why she will have longevity. Who cares if Hilary has only been in the business for about 7 years?... she's already had such a big impact on entertainment, more than Raven in-fact.

Her acting skills are decent, they've given her 4 major film roles, and a successful TV sitcom. Her singing is adequete (but needs tuning,) yet she still has launched a number 1 soundtrack, a GOLD album, and a successful music video ("Why Not") on MTV.


Originally posted by smoothe
Hilary Duffs 2 yr old success to Raven's 16 yrs in the buisness

Hilary built her own success--- Raven built it on "The Cosby Show." Plus, SHE isn't successful, she's just riding on the success left-over after "The Cosby Show," and "Hangin' With Mr. Cooper." That's why she's had various failed albums, a movie career that went nowhere- just a one-line roles "Wha I'm supposed 2 to wit ou my cell fone?!!!" And now she's just doing a mediocre yet adorable cable show that's riding on the success of "Lizzie McGuire."

On the other hand, Hilary fought for her role on "Casper," and then won the role for "Lizzie McGuire." She came in as "Lizzie" and rescued TWO failing networks--- The Disney Channel, and ABC mornings.

Her success on "Lizzie" prompted her to win the show a full-lengh movie, and a singing career for herself. All of which have been successful.

16 years of going nowhere VS "2 years" of success on the fastlane... YOU tell me who wins!


...and who cares if people see her as just another Britney Spears?... Spears is a modern-day icon. It's a compliment being compared to her.


You guys are hilarious.

Originally posted by SBTB Geek


Hilary built her own success--- Raven built it on "The Cosby Show." Plus, SHE isn't successful, she's just riding on the success left-over after "The Cosby Show," and "Hangin' With Mr. Cooper." That's why she's had various failed albums, a movie career that went nowhere- just a one-line roles "Wha I'm supposed 2 to wit ou my cell fone?!!!" And now she's just doing a mediocre yet adorable cable show that's riding on the success of "Lizzie McGuire."


On the other hand, Hilary fought for her role on "Casper," and then won the role for "Lizzie McGuire." She came in as "Lizzie" and rescued TWO failing networks--- The Disney Channel, and ABC mornings.




Her success on "Lizzie" prompted her to win the show a full-lengh movie, and a singing career for herself. All of which have been successful.

Smoothe says:

16 years of going nowhere VS "2 years" of success on the fastlane... YOU tell me who wins!


...and who cares if people see her as just another Britney Spears?... Spears is a modern-day icon. It's a compliment being compared to her.





You guys are hilarious. ::lol:
Are you sure it's us who are funny and not you :lol: :lol:

That is wonderful!*claps for Hilary*
Ofcourse if your a fan you will say that she is only a warm "adorable" face and ofcourse it is only because she is cute!I don't care what you say you can not compare Hilary to Raven!

Smoothe says:
What are you talking about!Hilary built off of the success of Lizzie McGuire and if you DID YOUR RESEARCH RIGHT Raven's first album when she was SIX went Gold and the second was released on a private record company as a matter of fact her own record company and the one liner thing is not funny at all you would really notice not to many black female teenagers getting big screen roles so I won't touch that one! Raven has done stage plays,charity events,concerts,tours so whether she built success off of the "Cosby Show" she has had a damn good success off of it!I don't see Hilary's ass giving back to the teens or kids that support her no instead she's feeding off of the popularity!

Smoothe says:
I don't even remeber Casper with her in it and they haven't mentioned that in her media stories so um...that means she fought for nothing!

Smoothe says:
16 years of going nowhere,I don't think so,now first of all you should get your information straight.First of all 16 "slow" years of success is better than a fastlane success story! That means Raven isn't suffering from OVEREXSPOSURE and people haven't gotten tired of seeing her yet and Hilary is going to be a Britney fad people are about to get tired of seeing her if they don't oh well but watch and see you will! Raven:89-92"The Cosby Show"94-97"Hangin with Mr. Cooper
98"Dr Dolittle"99"Zenon"01"Dr.Dolittle 2"(which whatever people say they still made it successful by going to see it)02"That's So Raven" and plus a long list of guest appearances and voice-overs awards!So SBTB Geek shut up man I'm still laughing because there is no comparison!

Smoothe says:
Now that's just a stupid thing to say because Britney Spears' modern day icon has poofed Christina broke that in for her!It is not a good thing to be compared to Britney Spears you just mentioned above that Hilary is successful and the movie that Britney did omg what happened!

Smoothe says:
This is fun don't stop I need more Hilary facts so they can be over-bared with more Raven facts!It is not helping your story and even if you brought more people in on this I would still have even more backing me on the "Hilary VS Raven" thing you have imposed!:wave:

What are you talking about!Hilary built off of the success of Lizzie McGuire

Hilary BUILT the success of "Lizzie McGuire" herself. If it wasn't for Hilary, "Lizzie" wouldn't be as popular. Unlike Raven, she didn't jump on the bandwagon of two shows that were already successful.

DID YOUR RESEARCH RIGHT Raven's first album when she was SIX went Gold and the second was released on a private record company as a matter of fact her own record company

Raven's debut, "Here's To New Dreams" was NOT certified GOLD by the RIAA. It was labeled gold because it EXPORTED 500,000 copies. (In other words, the U.S. had an excess of her CD, because no one bought them, and shipped them out to other countries to sell them.)

She never had her own record company. Her second album, "Undeniable" was released on a indie label after MCA Records dropped her for poor sales. No big label wanted to release her sophomore album.


Raven has done stage plays,charity events,concerts,tours so whether she built success off of the "Cosby Show" she has had a damn good success off of it!I don't see Hilary's ass giving back to the teens or kids that support her no instead she's feeding off of the popularity!

LOL... she did all those off-Broadway plays because no one was offering her TV/movie roles. Another sign of having a "dead" career.

Who cares if she has done charity events?... so DOES every other celebrity. It's another way to show the public that you have a "good-side." Even Hilary has done those stupid things.

Hilary has devoted time/ donated money to the BP Houston Children's Festival, The Earth Angels Foundation, The Disney Adventures All-Star Program, Kids With a Cause, even the great Nelson Mandela (South African president) has acknowleged her work. Hilary is known for all of her charity work.


she built success off of the "Cosby Show" she has had a damn good success off of it!

TOLD YOU!!!

I don't even remeber Casper with her in it and they haven't mentioned that in her media stories so um...that means she fought for nothing!

STUPID!!!... what do you mean she fought for nothing?!... SHE WON THE FREAKIN' PART!
You probably don't remember because are too obssesed with Raven.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00006G8IZ.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg


16 years of going nowhere,I don't think so,now first of all you should get your information straight.First of all 16 "slow" years of success is better than a fastlane success story! That means Raven isn't suffering from OVEREXSPOSURE and people haven't gotten tired of seeing her yet and Hilary is going to be a Britney fad people are about to get tired of seeing her if they don't oh well but watch and see you will!

LOL... that's loser talk. You are just jealous because Raven will never reach the success of Hilary.


Now that's just a stupid thing to say because Britney Spears' modern day icon has poofed Christina broke that in for her!

I like Christina more... so whatever.

It is not a good thing to be compared to Britney Spears you just mentioned above that Hilary is successful and the movie that Britney did omg what happened!

Britney has had 2 DIAMOND albums, 1 6x platinum album... you don't call that success?!!!

What happened to Britney's movie?... It grossed over $40,000,000 dollars, and launched the successful career of Taryn Manning.

So SBTB Geek shut up man I'm still laughing because there is no comparison!

I guess being proved wrong scares you, that's why you want me to shut up.

This is fun don't stop I need more Hilary facts so they can be over-bared with more Raven facts!It is not helping your story and even if you brought more people in on this I would still have even more backing me on the "Hilary VS Raven" thing you have imposed!

:stupid:

i never watched lizzie mcguire but i think raven is prettier than Hillary.Just my opinion.:)

SBTB Greek you need to shut-up. You don't know anything. The fact of the matter is, you admitted it yourself, you don't have to have talent to get into the business, and that's how Hilary made it. She had no talent. They hired her because she looked like she could play the role of a ditzy blonde. And the fact is, when Raven get's hired, she get's hired because of her talent, not her hair color.

Originally posted by TheFonzIsCool
i never watched lizzie mcguire but i think raven is prettier than Hillary.Just my opinion.:)

I agree, Raven is away prettier than Hilary!

Originally posted by SBTB Geek


:stupid:
Man!I'm stupid?You are taking some off the wall facts and posting them to make Raven's SUCCESSFUL CAREER sound worthless you act as if Hilary Duff is ****ing Princess Diane reincarnated:lol: The bitch is dumb and so are you where did you get your so-called information from about Raven because her album "Here's to new dreams" was officially platinum after "That's what little girls are made of" was released:o!"Undeniable" was released under her own private label "Rayblaize Records" which she wrote evey song on there except "With a child's heart" written by Stevie Wonder on MCA recordsHilary is singing songs someone else WROTE FOR HER :o :rolleyes: and I'll leave the Cosby Show part alone but "Hangin with Mr. Cooper" was not a popular show until late 94 season 2 when Raven and the rest of the added-on characters started the show!There is no such thing as a ****ing actor or actress building their own success unless she wrote the movie or whatever she was in!HOW COULD YOU GET UP HERE AND NAME ABOUT SIX CHARITIES HILARY DUFF CONTRIBUTED TO THAT ISN'T **** AND WHETHER SHE DOES IT TO LOOK LIKE A "GOOD SAMARITAN" OR NOT IT'S STILL GOOD DEEDS AND IT SHOWS HER FANS THAT SHE CARES AND WANTS TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY! YOU ARE THE STUPID ONE RAVEN IS FAR BEYOND THE SUCCESS OF HILARY DUFF!THIS **** IS SENSLESS AND I REALLY DON'T HAVE THE TIME BUT JUST MAKING SURE MY POINT WAS ACROSS I'M GONNA LET YOU FEEL EMBARRASSED AND KEEP ARGUING THAT HILARY IS MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN RAVEN:lol: BULL**** BUT ANYWAY BYEZ:wave:
PLUS RAVEN IS WAY CUTER THAN HILARY DUFF HAHA:lol: YOU DEFINITLEY CAN'T ARGUE THAT ONE!:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Ravey


I agree, Raven is away prettier than Hilary!

i think raven proves you don't have to be blonde and skinny as a stick to be a great actress.and in my apinon and darn good looking too! :D

Originally posted by TheFonzIsCool


i think raven proves you don't have to be blonde and skinny as a stick to be a great actress.and in my apinon and darn good looking too! :D
Hey TFIC don't they look cute in that pic i posted this dude is trippin SBTB Geek and I can't believe he would try to stunt like that especially not with Hilary Duff:lol: what's the world coming too
this is another one with her and this girl from a group i own!

Great Pic! :D

Okay whatever you said about Hilary Duff Is pretty Raven Is pretty Hilary and Raven are pretty and Hilary Duff to have taled and I do like Raven she Is pretty why everybody fight about Hilary Duff and Raven Symone THEY BOTH DARN PRETTY DAMN and Hilary have blonde hair and Raven have black hair so what and I like both of there girl Hilary Duff Is pretty then Raven look don't get me wrong I do like Raven she Is pretty to I like both girls are time okay don't fight about Hilary and Raven whoever are Raven and Hilary fan they were at mad I do like both girl they are both pretty girls.

Originally posted by smoothe

Man!I'm stupid?You are taking some off the wall facts and posting them to make Raven's SUCCESSFUL CAREER sound worthless you act as if Hilary Duff is ****ing Princess Diane reincarnated:lol: The bitch is dumb and so are you where did you get your so-called information from about Raven because her album "Here's to new dreams" was officially platinum after "That's what little girls are made of" was released:o!"Undeniable" was released under her own private label "Rayblaize Records" which she wrote evey song on there except "With a child's heart" written by Stevie Wonder on MCA recordsHilary is singing songs someone else WROTE FOR HER :o :rolleyes: and I'll leave the Cosby Show part alone but "Hangin with Mr. Cooper" was not a popular show until late 94 season 2 when Raven and the rest of the added-on characters started the show!There is no such thing as a ****ing actor or actress building their own success unless she wrote the movie or whatever she was in!HOW COULD YOU GET UP HERE AND NAME ABOUT SIX CHARITIES HILARY DUFF CONTRIBUTED TO THAT ISN'T **** AND WHETHER SHE DOES IT TO LOOK LIKE A "GOOD SAMARITAN" OR NOT IT'S STILL GOOD DEEDS AND IT SHOWS HER FANS THAT SHE CARES AND WANTS TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY! YOU ARE THE STUPID ONE RAVEN IS FAR BEYOND THE SUCCESS OF HILARY DUFF!THIS **** IS SENSLESS AND I REALLY DON'T HAVE THE TIME BUT JUST MAKING SURE MY POINT WAS ACROSS I'M GONNA LET YOU FEEL EMBARRASSED AND KEEP ARGUING THAT HILARY IS MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN RAVEN:lol: BULL**** BUT ANYWAY BYEZ:wave:
PLUS RAVEN IS WAY CUTER THAN HILARY DUFF HAHA:lol: YOU DEFINITLEY CAN'T ARGUE THAT ONE!:rolleyes:


The words of a loser that's been proven wrong.

Case closed.

Originally posted by Lizzie McGuire
Okay whatever you said about Hilary Duff Is pretty Raven Is pretty Hilary and Raven are pretty and Hilary Duff to have taled and I do like Raven she Is pretty why everybody fight about Hilary Duff and Raven Symone THEY BOTH DARN PRETTY DAMN and Hilary have blonde hair and Raven have black hair so what and I like both of there girl Hilary Duff Is pretty then Raven look don't get me wrong I do like Raven she Is pretty to I like both girls are time okay don't fight about Hilary and Raven whoever are Raven and Hilary fan they were at mad I do like both girl they are both pretty girls.

people, everyone should quit fighting.all i mean't is that there are a lot of skinny blonde girls who are really big and pretty.i mean alot (most stars) are like that.but raven is diffrient.she isn't Skinny and she isn't a famous blonde.but she's cool.and can be very bit as pretty.i never watched LM but i still think Raven Is prettier.just my opinion.i'm not trying to offend Hillary Duff fans just stating my opinion.:) and i'm a girl just so you know.maybe i'm not the best judge either for that.but i still think Raven is a very pretty girl. :)

Originally posted by SBTB Geek



The words of a loser that's been proven wrong.

Case closed.

I know you can't argue back cause the gabble has been popped:lol: courts ajurned!To Lizzie McGuire I argue with people about dissin Raven cause they don't have a place in insulting her:D !!!!

and i'm sorry of some of the things i said offend Hillary fans.i'm not trying to...:)

Originally posted by Lizzie McGuire
Okay whatever you said about Hilary Duff Is pretty Raven Is pretty Hilary and Raven are pretty and Hilary Duff to have taled and I do like Raven she Is pretty why everybody fight about Hilary Duff and Raven Symone THEY BOTH DARN PRETTY DAMN and Hilary have blonde hair and Raven have black hair so what and I like both of there girl Hilary Duff Is pretty then Raven look don't get me wrong I do like Raven she Is pretty to I like both girls are time okay don't fight about Hilary and Raven whoever are Raven and Hilary fan they were at mad I do like both girl they are both pretty girls.

Okie Dokie, but I still think Raven's better.

I am sorry to my friends that are offended by arguing on the boards,but let me explain myself without becoming hostle.Ok the whole fact of the matter is that this topic was started to talk or get information about the movie "Cheetah Girls" when some other person took it upon their self to tell me that Raven will never be as successful as Hilary Duff in which Raven is way more professional and up-to-date on this buisness than her but anyways I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST HILARY DUFF:) but I just favor someone else over the usual:D So back to the topic that this was supposed to be used for!:wave:

The Cheetah Girls is due release this summer and they are recording a soundtrack so don't know when they are gonna start promotion for it but I will let all who wanna know,know!For the ones who believe Raven's movie is no competition for The Lizzie Mcguire movie Cheetah Girls is a Disney Channel original movie!:D So there really is no competition.but I will not argue with anyone else only if they are expressing their opinion but if it turns to an insult...well what can I say:crazy: I'm crazy!