Hilary was unfunny, ditzie, shallow, jobless, manless, materialisic, and just a waste of space on the set. She added nothing to the show. Carlton, Will and Ashley were fine, Jeffery was the man, along with Uncle Phil. Vivian was unfunny also but not as weird as Hilary. Who agrees. And if don't explain why.

I completely disagree for many reasons. The biggest reason of all being that the show was set in Bel-Air. Hillary, more than any of the other Banks children, was a product of being raised in that snobby, materialistic culture, and she was a good representation of the spoiled little rich girl who has her rich father wrapped around her pinky finger. I thought Hillary was a great character. Don't bash me for my opinions, because I'm not bashing you. This is just my opinion.

Originally posted by flutterby01
I completely disagree for many reasons. The biggest reason of all being that the show was set in Bel-Air. Hillary, more than any of the other Banks children, was a product of being raised in that snobby, materialistic culture, and she was a good representation of the spoiled little rich girl who has her rich father wrapped around her pinky finger. I thought Hillary was a great character. Don't bash me for my opinions, because I'm not bashing you. This is just my opinion.


She was the only character that didn't generate laughs. Very Whinnie and Immature and put the A in Annoying.

Hilary is my 3rd favorite next to Carlton&Will and I wish Will&Hilary got into more trouble with each other because the episodes where they had to rely on each other were pretty funny... especially the one where Will sings to Phillip and dance at the end of a episode.They weren't as funny compared to Will&Carlton but I enjoyed the episodes. If there was one that wasn't needed it would be Ashley..... I just found her annoying especially when she whines to Phillip about the problems she causes.Nothing she did was ever funny..

I agree, GeorgiaBoyJeff! Ashley was ok, but of all the characters on the show, maybe with the exception of Vivian in the later years, she didn't generate many laughs from me. But, it was kind of nice to see a Banks child that was somewhat normal!

no way! Hilary was hilarious....do you know who was annoying? ahsley!!!

Originally posted by *GoodMorningCalgary*
no way! Hilary was hilarious....do you know who was annoying? ahsley!!!


Ashely didn't bother me, she is SO BEAUTIFUL

Originally posted by SOLOMON



Ashely didn't bother me, she is SO BEAUTIFUL

LOL, so if they are beautiful, they aren't annoying? Cool. LOL, just playing.

I liked Hilary during the few seasons and didn't think she was a waste at all, but for some reason, she started bugging me after season 3 or 4. It was about the time her looks changed (did she get some massive work done on her?), that I thought she became annoying. I guess she didn't exactly change, because she remained the stuck-up, spoiled brat that she started out as, but it wasn't working for me after a while. I started to really dislike her. When she got that stupid-a** talk show, then she became a waste. I hated that time.

Originally posted by Cashodeen


LOL, so if they are beautiful, they aren't annoying? Cool. LOL, just playing.

I liked Hilary during the few seasons and didn't think she was a waste at all, but for some reason, she started bugging me after season 3 or 4. It was about the time her looks changed (did she get some massive work done on her?), that I thought she became annoying. I guess she didn't exactly change, because she remained the stuck-up, spoiled brat that she started out as, but it wasn't working for me after a while. I started to really dislike her. When she got that stupid-a** talk show, then she became a waste. I hated that time.


Hilary was just Dingy and never ever ever made me laugh. Ashely really didn't make me laugh but she was CANDY FOR THE EYE so it was ok.LOL

I definitely agree with flutterby01 and all who said she should have been included in the show. I think so too! :wave:

I definitely agree with flutterby01 and all who said she should have been included in the show. I think so too! :wave:


I would have preferred to see more of Geoffery than Hilary

Hilary was unfunny, ditzie, shallow, jobless, manless, materialisic, and just a waste of space on the set. She added nothing to the show. Carlton, Will and Ashley were fine, Jeffery was the man, along with Uncle Phil. Vivian was unfunny also but not as weird as Hilary. Who agrees. And if don't explain why.

I thought the first Vivian was funny. Janet Hubert-Whitten played her with heart and soul. Some of her comments and attitude was comical to watch especially the episodes with her sisters. I thought Daphne Maxwell Reid was unfunny as the second Vivian. They could had done without her. If the show could not had worked out the issues with Janet then they should had killed Vivian off rather than replacing her. The difference in the two actresses that played her was different and the character changed when Daphne got into the picture. That was when I stopped watching the show.

Hillary wasn't very funny at all.... but she was needed to make other characters funnier.

Geoffery (I pretty sure it's with a G) was at his funniest with Hillary.

Hillary wasn't very funny at all.... but she was needed to make other characters funnier.

Geoffery (I pretty sure it's with a G) was at his funniest with Hillary.


Geoffery was only not funny when around these characters

Ashely
Vivian


But he was a Riot around

Uncle Phil
Will
Hilary
Carlton

Geoffery was only not funny when around these characters

Ashely
Vivian


But he was a Riot around

Uncle Phil
Will
Hilary
Carlton

Exactly. Hillary also made Uncle Phil more funny. She added something to the show, without being funny herself.

I never cared for Hillary. She was cute, but man was she dumb. :lol:

Hilary was more of a supporting character in that she was really there to be a contrast for characters like Will and Ashley and provide humor in her interactions with others. Not all characters in the show were simply there for laughs. Vivian and Ashley didn't generate a lot of laughs either. But Hilary's interractions with the other family members provided for good comedy. Hilary was spoiled, self centered, and quite dense, but that was her role on the show, and Karyn Parsons played it quite well. I think her character was needed in the sense that she reminded the audience, along with Carlton, that this show is set in Bel Air. We needed that character who was spoiled, and Carlton doesn't give of that spoiled vibe as well as Hilary.

nicky wasnt needed, he was a waste of space

nicky wasnt needed, he was a waste of space
I think it was alright that he was born, but I wish they hadnt grew him up so fast. He should have been a toddler in the last season.

Hilary was unfunny, ditzie, shallow, jobless, manless, materialisic, and just a waste of space on the set. She added nothing to the show. Carlton, Will and Ashley were fine, Jeffery was the man, along with Uncle Phil. Vivian was unfunny also but not as weird as Hilary. Who agrees. And if don't explain why.


Oh, please, if it wasn't for Hillary, we would never have had the episode where her fiance proposes to her while bungee jumping but doesn't, well. . . . bungee back up! :spit:

I saw that character for who she was. . . . a one-dimensional cartoon who was good for a quick laugh. I think that her haters are taking her too seriously.

The analyzer... You say, that you can stand Ashley, but not Hilary, because Ashley is beautiful. But guess what! Hilary is beautiful, and Ashley isn't.

Otherwise, I think Hilary sure was needed. She was funny in her own spoiled stupid way.

I think Hillary was a riot, I loved her dumb routine. She was a beautiful woman too, and needed for the male viewers I guess. Ashley was a little girl when the show first started, but she became a knockout herself.

I think Hillary was a riot, I loved her dumb routine. She was a beautiful woman too, and needed for the male viewers I guess. Ashley was a little girl when the show first started, but she became a knockout herself.


But any man will tell you that if a female is a AIRHEAD, that physical beauty is a non-factor-lol

But any man will tell you that if a female is a AIRHEAD, that physical beauty is a non-factor-lol
I'm not so sure all men would agree with you. Even if a gal is dumber than a bag of rocks, they still like to look, lol. :eyes2:

I'm not so sure all men would agree with you. Even if a gal is dumber than a bag of rocks, they still like to look, lol. :eyes2:


Yeah she would just be for having fun and looking at, nobody to take seriously. Notice that Hilary was never rarely in a relationship with a guy

Yeah she would just be for having fun and looking at, nobody to take seriously. Notice that Hilary was never rarely in a relationship with a guy
I agree with you in that regard. She was a total dipsh*t, but guys love to look at a beautiful woman.

Hilary and Carlton, to me, were essentially the same character: shallow and snobby. So I can see your point, Solomon.

That's not totally true. Hilary and Carlton were both snobs, which is probably how they ended up on a blind date with each other. But there's where the similarities between them end. Hilary was a beautiful airhead. Carlton was more of a nerd type.

Hilary and Carlton, to me, were essentially the same character: shallow and snobby. So I can see your point, Solomon.
Hilary was needed as 'eye candy' for the male viewers.

That's not totally true. Hilary and Carlton were both snobs, which is probably how they ended up on a blind date with each other. But there's where the similarities between them end. Hilary was a beautiful airhead. Carlton was more of a nerd type.


Carlton wasn't a nerd

Eh, yes, he was. Which however is a good thing in my book. At least, he was the nerd type. Notice how Will treated him, especially in the beginning.

Eh, yes, he was. Which however is a good thing in my book. At least, he was the nerd type. Notice how Will treated him, especially in the beginning.


Just because a uy is not HIP and not into rap music and wearing crazy clothes doesn' mean he is a nerd

I think Carlton was sort of a nerd. Not Steve Urkel nerd, but he was nerdy, if that's a word, lol.

I think Carlton was sort of a nerd. Not Steve Urkel nerd, but he was nerdy, if that's a word, lol.


I would say Snobbish, Shallow, and Closeminded. Not really Nerdy

I would say Snobbish, Shallow, and Closeminded. Not really Nerdy
He was goofy sometimes too. Maybe nerd isn't the right word. He was a goody two-shoes a lot, a suckup to his father.

He was goofy sometimes too. Maybe nerd isn't the right word. He was a goody two-shoes a lot, a suckup to his father.


Yeah Goofy is another good way to describe him because his dance was GOOFY-lol

Carlton maybe wasn't as much of a nerd as Steve Urkel, but still, he's got a dweeb or geek thing going on, at the same time as he's snobbish.

Carlton maybe wasn't as much of a nerd as Steve Urkel, but still, he's got a dweeb or geek thing going on, at the same time as he's snobbish.


I guess you missed the ep when CARLTON exposed Will as a UNDERCOVER NERD

I guess you missed the ep when CARLTON exposed Will as a UNDERCOVER NERD
I did miss that one. Sounds like fun, lol.

I did miss that one. Sounds like fun, lol.


Yeah the ep when Carlton proved to Will that he could survive in the hood and Will was afraid to go to Mcarthy Park and started getting teased by his friends-lol That was the ep that Carlton exposed as a FAKE TOUGH GUY-lol

But then, Will also managed to be the Carlton-type in this episode, where he wanted to impress this girl's father. It has nothing to with their real personalities.

But then, Will also managed to be the Carlton-type in this episode, where he wanted to impress this girl's father. It has nothing to with their real personalities.


You are missing the point. I SAID WILL WAS EXPOSED by CARLTON in the hood as a WIMP. What part of that don't you understand?

Hilary was unfunny, ditzie, shallow, jobless, manless, materialisic, and just a waste of space on the set. She added nothing to the show. Carlton, Will and Ashley were fine, Jeffery was the man, along with Uncle Phil. Vivian was unfunny also but not as weird as Hilary. Who agrees. And if don't explain why.

i so agree with you solomon on your choice! out of the entire family, i disliked hilary the most. she was so shallow, self-centred, spolit and materialistic. the only reason she was on the show was so we could laugh AT her for being so dumb. she was the most pointless character.plus she was a reversal of the so-called dumb blonde stereotype. if i was the writer on this show, i would've wrote her off

I would have preferred to see more of Geoffery than Hilary

:clap me too

You are missing the point. I SAID WILL WAS EXPOSED by CARLTON in the hood as a WIMP. What part of that don't you understand?
He just wanted Carlton to get home in one piece. Is that wimpy? :confused: Even Jazz's room mates saw him more like a tattle-tell than as a wimp.

You are missing the point. I SAID WILL WAS EXPOSED by CARLTON in the hood as a WIMP. What part of that don't you understand?
He just wanted Carlton to get home in one piece. Is that wimpy? :confused: Even Jazz's room mates saw him more like a tattletale than as a wimp.

You are missing the point. I SAID WILL WAS EXPOSED by CARLTON in the hood as a WIMP. What part of that don't you understand?
He just wanted Carlton to get home in one piece. Is that wimpy? :confused: Even Jazz's room mates saw him more like a tattletale than as a wimp.

not true hilary did many things she helped ashley alot she was funny because she dumb plus she gave will a job which led to cris rock being on the show

What about Will's folks, Uncle Lou Smith, Aunt Vy Smith-Wilkes, and Uncle Fred Wilkes?

The episode with Will's dad is one of my favorites. I actually first watched it on my own father's 60th birthday, which makes it even more touching for me. I like those serious episodes, so I do think Uncle Lou was needed.

Will's mum/Aunt Vi can be a handful, but she's mostly interesting. I liked her character too. People should just stand up to her more.

Fred Wilkes wasn't uncle to anyone on the show. But he was, what, Will's step-father AND father-in-law? Too bad that the Lisa storyline was suddenly canned, because I would have liked to see how that would have ended.

No, because Will and Lisa did not get married. That made Lisa Will's step-sister, Hillary, Carlton, Ashley, and Nicky's step-cousin, and Phil & Vivian's step-niece. After Fred married Vy, he became Will's step-father, Hillary, Carlton, Ashley, and Nicky's new uncle, and Phil & Vivian's bro-in-law. Alot to explain, but I did my best. What about Aunt Janice and Uncle Frank?

No, because Will and Lisa did not get married. That made Lisa Will's step-sister, Hillary, Carlton, Ashley, and Nicky's step-cousin, and Phil & Vivian's step-niece. After Fred married Vy, he became Will's step-father, Hillary, Carlton, Ashley, and Nicky's new uncle, and Phil & Vivian's bro-in-law. Alot to explain, but I did my best. What about Aunt Janice and Uncle Frank?


Yeah and that's why there was no need for the Lisa character to be on the show anymore. But what was weird was Will's Mom appearing on the show again without Fred like they were no longer together

FYI, she never appeared again after they got married in the last 5th season episode.

No, because Will and Lisa did not get married.
Yeah, but almost.

What about Aunt Janice and Uncle Frank?

Well, they were only in like three or four episodes anyway. And I also think, that the episode, when aunt Janice and uncle Frank got married, was really interesting.

I thought it was too. Way cool.

I thought Hiliary was funny. Especially the shows that revolved around her ( the catering fiasco, Hilary and Trevor, When she dropped out of school and Will and Carlton were blackmailing her. OMG! that was one of my favs!:rofl:


Ashley was a boring space filler.:rolleyes:

I thought Hiliary was funny. Especially the shows that revolved around her ( the catering fiasco, Hilary and Trevor, When she dropped out of school and Will and Carlton were blackmailing her. OMG! that was one of my favs!:rofl:


Ashley was a boring space filler.:rolleyes:



Only a woman would feel that way about ashely

Well, as a woman, I can honestly say, that Hilary is drop dead gorgeous, and Ashley is only averge-looking.

Well, as a woman, I can honestly say, that Hilary is drop dead gorgeous, and Ashley is only averge-looking.


Ashely was above average, average looking is The first vivian

Actually, I think Ashley and the first Vivian both were average-looking.

Only a woman would feel that way about ashely


Well I am definitely a woman and Ashely was definitely just blah with her lame storylines, her round, hunched shoulders and straight up and down shape.

welll ashely is american express material to me-lol

And you have every right to feel that way about Ashley. But I think most people think, that Hilary was prettier than her.

And you have every right to feel that way about Ashley. But I think most people think, that Hilary was prettier than her.


I have never in my life seen any woman prettier than ashely

to be honest, I see all of your points well.. hillary was annoying and drop dead dumb and gorgeous at the same time, but it was slightly humorous at the thing she would come up with..

for example: the episode where geoffrey's son comes (aka REV from remember the titans) she says how could the son watch his father serve people and do all their dirty work.. he says i always consider the source.. she takes it as a compliment.

so yes she is annoying but it gets a chuckle.. not from me ive seen the episodes 1000X...

THE CHARACTER THAT WAS NOT NEEDED .. AT ALL:

Nicky: it really screams out no new material when some 40yr olds have another baby. i understand the fact that it gave a new element to te show with how each other character played a role in his childhood, but it really wasn't needed. I am sure they could have come up with something else. i suppose the writers recalled what a great impact the show had with ashley's upbringing and going through her childhood (boys, sex, music, etc.) but this was cut short when they retired the show... we didn't get the same ordeal. he was finny and cute, but really not needed...

ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS KING?

thanks.

GvF

Well, the first Vivian got pregnant in real life, so they wrote her pregnancy into the show. And then, even though the second Vivian came, they kept Nicky as a character on the show and even gave him the usual sitcom-baby-ages-five-years-between-two-seasons treatment.

Will. We didn't need him. It shoulda just been called Fresh Pie from the Oven and starred Phillip.