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JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo
04-20-2003, 11:12 PM
what is the easiest version of the bible to read? just curious.

~*Hannah_Lee*~
04-20-2003, 11:21 PM
the New International Version is easy to read. But if you want the easiest to comprehend, I would get one that is designed for kids. My brother has one and it is really easy to understand. It's designed for kids who are about 8-12 years old, so things aren't worded as complicated as they are in a King James version.

fr00ti
04-20-2003, 11:27 PM
I have a student bible and it explains all the scripture, so if you dont understand something you just look under it and it will give you a detailed description of what it really says.

°Bubbly Blonde°
04-20-2003, 11:27 PM
New International Version, I have a teen bible and that's what kind it is

Georgia's on my Mind
04-20-2003, 11:38 PM
I have a few, but the Catholic Study Bible is the best imo...

TJL
04-20-2003, 11:40 PM
Good question.
Does Cliff Notes make a Bible?

;)

~Tropical Punch 19~
04-21-2003, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by BubbleLuvGrl026
New International Version, I have a teen bible and that's what kind it is that's what I have. Is yours purple and green on the cover and say "teen study Bible?"

anyways I used to go to this private school and it was required that we use the king james version. now how can u expect a 7 year old to understand that complex version?:rolleyes: i eman the NIV is the same thing as the KJV it's just "dumbinzed"-what i ean byu that is it is broken down into a much easier vocabulary for our generation to understand. Also, it gives little note thingys at every now and then to explain soemthing and stuff. It is really helpful. Also, in the back it has a desent list of things teens deal with like depression,drugs,school,christain living,sex, etc... and it gives refrences to scripture that deals with that particular topic. Thats what i do. Everynight I go and choose a topic thats bugging me and I look up the scripture about it.

ABlairican Pie
04-21-2003, 01:08 AM
I'd say the Living Bible is the easiest to read, but that's because it's a paraphrase, which means it's not strictly going by what the original Bible says, but explains things in everyday language. I personally prefer the New King James Version (doesn't have the "thee's" and "thou's" in it). The New International Version is okay, but I've noticed awkward language in parts of it.

Titania
04-21-2003, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by ~Tropical Punch 19~
that's what I have. Is yours purple and green on the cover and say "teen study Bible?"

i have that one too

~Tropical Punch 19~
04-21-2003, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Titania


i have that one too ha cool

Kay Scarpetta
04-21-2003, 12:40 PM
I have a Catholic version... I don't read it though.

~Tropical Punch 19~
04-21-2003, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Miss Karly
I have a Catholic version... I don't read it though. whats the differnce betwwen the protestant Bible and the catholic one? I know there is a differnce but I don't kow what it is.

Brady Fan
04-21-2003, 01:37 PM
I would say the NIV is probably the easisest to read.

°Bubbly Blonde°
04-21-2003, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by ~Tropical Punch 19~
that's what I have. Is yours purple and green on the cover and say "teen study Bible?"

Yup!

Kay Scarpetta
04-21-2003, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by ~Tropical Punch 19~
whats the differnce betwwen the protestant Bible and the catholic one? I know there is a differnce but I don't kow what it is.

Hmm...I really don't know. I knew the difference between Catholicism and Protestant-ism (I don't know the word for it), but I forgot. We're basically the same, with a few minor differences in beliefs

Jersey Girl
04-21-2003, 06:02 PM
I thought the difference is in when you take Communion --> that's what I learned in World Cultures last year.. I think Catholics say "Body of Christ", etc but Protestants say "represents Body of Christ."

however, I don't go to church and probably am not the best source

Kristen
04-21-2003, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by Jersey Girl
I thought the difference is in when you take Communion --> that's what I learned in World Cultures last year.. I think Catholics say "Body of Christ", etc but Protestants say "represents Body of Christ."

however, I don't go to church and probably am not the best source

As a Catholic, I can tell you you're right. Although I was never actually taught that Communion was the Body of Christ. And having tasted it, I'm not so sure I believe that. ;)

Also, Catholics believe that the Virgin Mary was concieved without original sin, whereas most other Christian churches don't.

Hope that helps!
Kristen

ABlairican Pie
04-21-2003, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by ~Tropical Punch 19~
whats the differnce betwwen the protestant Bible and the catholic one? I know there is a differnce but I don't kow what it is.

I don't know enough about the Catholic Bible, but I know that it has the Apocrypha, which is a collection of Jewish writings that were written between the close of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament. Catholics regard these writings as part of Biblical canon (i.e., consider them authoritative), but Jews and Protestants do not.

ABlairican Pie
04-21-2003, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Kristen


As a Catholic, I can tell you you're right. Although I was never actually taught that Communion was the Body of Christ. And having tasted it, I'm not so sure I believe that. ;)

Also, Catholics believe that the Virgin Mary was concieved without original sin, whereas most other Christian churches don't.

Hope that helps!
Kristen

"Hey, wow, mom!! This bread tastes just like Jesus!!":liplick:

:lol: :happyface

LucyFan
04-21-2003, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo
what is the easiest version of the bible to read? just curious.
From what I have heard and experieced, the NIV Student Bible is the easiest to read. But I guess it depends on each individual though.

~Tropical Punch 19~
04-21-2003, 10:06 PM
yeah i know the differnece between Catholism and Protestanism we learned all about it in world history. I won't list them all. Twomajor differnce is that Catholics belive you ahve to "earn your way into heaven" by following 7 steps, while protestants believe you ask christ for forgivness and ask him to come intpo your heart. and Catholics don't pray directly to Jesus, they pray to Mary and protestanst pray to Jesus.

bnut i wa swondering the differnce in the Bible versions.

Brad Russ
04-22-2003, 02:48 AM
The Catholic Bible actually has some books that are not in the Protestant one, I do know that. I also know that there are many verses in the Catholic Bible that are not in the King James Bible. I discovered this as I tried having a Bible study with my Catholic friend, and we kept reading different things. I also know that her Bible was written in the 1500's while the King James one was written in the 1600's. The next time I talk to her I'll find out which Bible stories from her Bible aren't in the Protestant Bible, and I'll be sure to let you know.

As far as what Bible I use, I just stick with the good old King James version. I'm finding that the more I read it, the more I understand it. I also have a new international version, as well as a new one called The Book, but I rarely ever read those two. KJV is just fine with me.

ABlairican Pie
04-22-2003, 08:24 AM
I really don't like the term Protestantism, it sounds old-fashioned and doesn't fully explain the various branches of non-Catholic denominations (btw, I don't hear much about Eastern Orthodox).
There are mainstream Protestant denominations (also known as "liberal"), many of which have a less stringent view of the Bible than others and are more committed to the Social Gospel of good works and charity, the Evangelicals, who are more committed to spreading the message of salvation through Christ and making decisions for Him, and having a more serious view of the Bible and in its inerrancy, etc., and the Fundamentalists, who are the most hardcore about the Bible and about preserving their identity as believers. This includes many Southern Baptists as well as Pentecostal/Charismatics. My church, the Free Methodist church, is Evangelical. But of course one can't pigeonhole or stereotype what each group believes, because every individual is different. Also, there are Episcopals who are a little both Catholic and Protestant. If that makes sense.

Kay Scarpetta
04-22-2003, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by ~Tropical Punch 19~
Catholics don't pray directly to Jesus, they pray to Mary and protestanst pray to Jesus.



Yeah... we pray to the Saints. We believe that we are not worthy enough to talk to Jesus directly, so we go through Mary and the Saints.

I'm not trying to turn this into a religious argument, but 1] If Jesus exists, I'm sure that He'll listen to everybody, regardless of who you are, and 2] how come these people became saints? Who IS the Catholic church to name these people saints? I just don't get it. If you do, then please enlighten me. There are a million and two people on this earth of ours who are worthy enough of becoming saints.

JoPol_wannabe
04-22-2003, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by ~Tropical Punch 19~
whats the differnce betwwen the protestant Bible and the catholic one? I know there is a differnce but I don't kow what it is.

I can't remember for sure if its the catholic bible or not but one of those different religions has a bible with a couple more books then the Kings James version. Well that is what my sunday school teacher told me but I can't really remember the whole thing.

~Tropical Punch 19~
04-22-2003, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Miss Karly


Yeah... we pray to the Saints. We believe that we are not worthy enough to talk to Jesus directly, so we go through Mary and the Saints.

I'm not trying to turn this into a religious argument, but 1] If Jesus exists, I'm sure that He'll listen to everybody, regardless of who you are, and 2] how come these people became saints? Who IS the Catholic church to name these people saints? I just don't get it. If you do, then please enlighten me. There are a million and two people on this earth of ours who are worthy enough of becoming saints. yeah i know what you mean. You can't define a siant. Each eprson's persinification of a "saint" is different. Protestantism has no saints. I am a I am a Protestant so you can ask me about that and I would kno, but i am not sure about Catholisism. So I can t really say why they are distinguised as saints. I figure as long as you belive in Jesus, GOd, and The Holy spirit, believed Jesus died on the cross for your sins, and asked him for forgivness than you are set with the Lord. So if you believe thata nd your Catholic that si cool and you beleive thata nd your proestant that is cool too. It doesn't matter if you are protestatnt or Catholic as long as you believe those things with all your heart. That's hwo i see. I am not trying to offened anyone who believes dofferent so please don't try to get me wrong. I am just saying that is how I see it and yes they have diferent belifs but if they beliveve the same on thos eissues I listed above it should be okay.

Czas na Zywiec
04-22-2003, 07:41 PM
One of my teachers was watching Larry King Live the other night when he had five religious leaders as guests. A Catholic Priest, a Protestant Minister, a Jewish Rabbi, A Musilim clerk, and a Hindu clerk. He said that everyone was open minded in hearing everyone's elses thoughts, but was disgusted when the Protestant Minister made one comment. He said that Christianity is the only way and that anyone who doesn't believe that way will go to hell. His only response to that was 'It's in the New Testament.'

Joining us, Deepak Chopra, spiritual adviser and author of bestsellers like "How to Know God"; John MacArthur, pastor of the Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California, and a syndicated host; Rabbi Harold Kushner, bestselling author of "Living a Life That Matters"; Father Michael Manning, Roman Catholic priest, host of the international TV show "The Word in the World"; and Dr. Maher Hathout, a scholar of Islam and senior adviser, Muslim Public Affairs Council.

KING: Reverend MacArthur, is war a failure of faith?

MACARTHUR: Well, I don't know that it's directly a failure of faith. When you talk about faith, you have to...

KING: All faiths breach peace.

MACARTHUR: Yes, but you have to ask faith in what. I mean just to talk about faith as a generic commodity I'm not sure has any virtue. When we talk about faith as Christians, we're talking about faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

KING: When you were here the last time, you said Christianity is the only way.

MACARTHUR: Right.

KING: Right? Meaning that Dr. Hathout and Rabbi Kushner both will go to hell if they do not believe as you do.

MACARTHUR: That is what the New Testament teaches.

KING: So you believe that?

Now, as long as that belief occurs, doesn't that cause friction? Doesn't that cause anger and hostility?

MACARTHUR: No, no. And that's a really great question, Larry. It doesn't cause anger because I don't have any anger toward Dr. Hathout or toward any of these gentlemen here.

HATHOUT: But they do have...

(CROSSTALK) MACARTHUR: Well, that's -- that's -- nice to hear you say that, but I don't feel that way at all. I don't have any anger toward a Muslim...

HATHOUT: But you're condemning them to hell.

CHOPRA: Yes, you don't have to.

MACARTHUR: I didn't that. I'm not condemning anyone to hell.

KING: No, you're saying God...

MACARTHUR: I'm telling you that's what the New Testament says.

CHOPRA: That's one interpretation. There are so many others. It's -- it -- that's not...

KING: But it's his interpretation.

MACARTHUR: Oh, but wait a minute. I'm not finished yet. I just want to tell you that the New Testament says that, apart from Jesus Christ, you spend eternity in hell. But I want all of you gentlemen to know and everybody else that that's not necessary because Christ offers forgiveness and salvation to all who come to him.

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0304/20/lkl.00.html

Just some food for thought. You can read the rest at the address above.

°Bubbly Blonde°
04-22-2003, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Original Prankster


Joining us, Deepak Chopra, spiritual adviser and author of bestsellers like "How to Know God"; John MacArthur, pastor of the Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California, and a syndicated host; Rabbi Harold Kushner, bestselling author of "Living a Life That Matters"; Father Michael Manning, Roman Catholic priest, host of the international TV show "The Word in the World"; and Dr. Maher Hathout, a scholar of Islam and senior adviser, Muslim Public Affairs Council.
oh I know John MacArthur, my mom use to listen to him every morning, he's a good bible teacher, as long as he doesnt get into politics......

°Bubbly Blonde°
04-22-2003, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Original Prankster
A Catholic Priest, a Protestant Minister, a Jewish Rabbi, A Musilim clerk, and a Hindu clerk. He said that everyone was open minded in hearing everyone's elses thoughts, but was disgusted when the Protestant Minister made one comment. He said that Christianity is the only way and that anyone who doesn't believe that way will go to hell. His only response to that was 'It's in the New Testament.

he was only saying what he believed, u cant always agree on everything, it would be nice if you could but u cant......and I dont think John MacArthur was like "except God or go to hell" he was just saying that the bible says that if u except Jesus you got to heaven, and if that's what he believes then that's what he believes and the way he interprets it, then imo that's fine. There are a lot of other religions that are just as closed minded or more, but I dont think it would be fair to ppl who are that religion to post it, are to make it out like Im downing on it because I know not everyone from that religion are the same.....

ABlairican Pie
04-22-2003, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by Miss Karly


Yeah... we pray to the Saints. We believe that we are not worthy enough to talk to Jesus directly, so we go through Mary and the Saints.

I'm not trying to turn this into a religious argument, but 1] If Jesus exists, I'm sure that He'll listen to everybody, regardless of who you are, and 2] how come these people became saints? Who IS the Catholic church to name these people saints? I just don't get it. If you do, then please enlighten me. There are a million and two people on this earth of ours who are worthy enough of becoming saints.

I've read that the Pope has had some weird ideas about who to canonize into sainthood, I've heard that some priest back in the 1500's or whenever who was doing missionary work in the Californias to the Indians in the early days of American exploration
was actually involved in KILLING them, was that Junipero Sierra?(some familiar name or other...) And also Mother Teresa WASN'T
the wonderful saint everyone's made her out to be, she was actually more like Dr. Jack Kevorkian's dream date, not really involved in healing and taking care of the sick and dying in the streets of Calcutta, but more about taking them out of their misery with a bit of comfort..."Dang it, we're NOT a hospital..."

If I had my choice of saints, I'd make Ozzy #1, but I'd make Lisa QUEEN GODDESS....:notworthy :notworthy

~*Hannah_Lee*~
04-22-2003, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by Miss Karly
1] If Jesus exists, I'm sure that He'll listen to everybody, regardless of who you are, and 2] how come these people became saints? Who IS the Catholic church to name these people saints?

I believe that way. I believe that we all have access to Jesus, and that he hears all of our prayers, the main thing is to develop a relationship. My teacher in Sunday School simply puts it, "It's about the relationship, not the religion," which I think is basically how I feel about God. I, too, do not understand the deal with saints. I'm not saying anything against Catholicism, I'm just saying I don't understand it. I thought that everyone was a sinner all the same, no person better than another. But that is my belief on things. There again, I think the "relationship not the religion" deal ties in with that belief.

Georgia's on my Mind
04-22-2003, 10:00 PM
ok...clearing up some things, my opinion from the point of view that I have been taught the Catholic religion
you can pray directly to God/ Jesus or the Saints...either is acceptable and i have never been told I can "only pray to the saints". And I think alot of the times it is better and makes it more relatable to your life by praying to saints to help you though rough times instead of praying directly to God, which oddly might be awkward for some people....my

Kitt
04-22-2003, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Miss Karly


Yeah... we pray to the Saints. We believe that we are not worthy I'm not trying to turn this into a religious argument, but 1] If Jesus exists, I'm sure that He'll listen to everybody, regardless of who you are, and 2] how come these people became saints? Who IS the Catholic church to name these people saints? I just don't get it. If you do, then please enlighten me. There are a million and two people on this earth of ours who are worthy enough of becoming saints.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02364b.htm
This site explains canonization (sainthood) and it's history rather well.

Kitt
04-22-2003, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by Georgia's on my Mind
ok...clearing up some things, my opinion from the point of view that I have been taught the Catholic religion
you can pray directly to God/ Jesus or the Saints..."Our father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name..."
That Catholic prayer is directed at God.

ABlairican Pie
05-06-2003, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by Miss Karly


Yeah... we pray to the Saints. We believe that we are not worthy enough to talk to Jesus directly, so we go through Mary and the Saints.

I'm not trying to turn this into a religious argument, but 1] If Jesus exists, I'm sure that He'll listen to everybody, regardless of who you are, and 2] how come these people became saints? Who IS the Catholic church to name these people saints? I just don't get it. If you do, then please enlighten me. There are a million and two people on this earth of ours who are worthy enough of becoming saints.

You were saying "If Jesus exists," as if it were only the Bible that says so (from what I'm guessing), I wanted to say that there was also a Jewish historian named Josephus (who was not a Christian) back then who witnessed and wrote about Jesus' words and acts.

You also made me think of something funny about the Pope canonizing people as saints (something I read in the paper). I'm gonna have to make you a toon...:D

~Tropical Punch 19~
05-06-2003, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Captain ABlairica


You were saying "If Jesus exists," as if it were only the Bible that says so (from what I'm guessing), I wanted to say that there was also a Jewish historian named Josephus (who was not a Christian) back then who witnessed and wrote about Jesus' words and acts.

You also made me think of something funny about the Pope canonizing people as saints (something I read in the paper). I'm gonna have to make you a toon...:D Jewish people belive in Jesus but they believe he was a prohpet not God's son.