...I just don't see the appeal.

What gives w/ the rage of imported toons from Japan? I can remember years back, the big ones where 'Battle of The Planets", "Speed Racer" & a little later on, "Voltron'. But in the past 10 to 15 years, there's been this huge explosion of toons from there & I am so tired of seeing the same style of artwork again & again. We all know it. The huge eyes, the angular features, the distorted body proportions. And when it isn't that, it's a new batch of cutesy little animals.
I know it's all probably a trademark of the style, but is anyone else sick of it already? And don't get me started on the actual animation. (although most of today's tv toons are guilty of that) To see the good animation, you have to go to the movies. With the fluid movement etc.

I dunno, maybe it's simply because it isn't aimed at me. I don't own a pack of Pokemon cards. But it sure has a big adult following...

Well, I'm 18 and I love the lighthearted anime. (Several of my favorites are lighthearted anime) "Tokyo Pig", "Pokemon", "Sailor Moon" (only the American version), "Hamtaro" The comedy is great, and when combined with the off-the-wall style and american voice acting, you can't help but enjoy it. Who cares about the animation style when its the writing and voice acting that really matter (but, I have to say, I love the anime style, its pretty cool, IMO)

I don't always watch anime, but from time to time I do catch a few and they aren't too bad, IMO.

All except Dragon Ball Z.. I can't stand that show. . :barf:

I know what you mean about the animation. I just don't seem to like it myself. My kids did like Pokemon and my brother did love Speed racer.

The ones I do like are the cutesy animals like Sagwa (the cat) and Kitty.

Is one of my favorites,here an image of Rai,one of the beybladers.
Pitooey,does Rai reminds you of someone? ~hehe,I think that's why I like this cartoon ;)

Does anyone remember G-Force ? It used to air right after speed racer. My favorite anime of all time is VAMPIRE HUNTER D.

The appeal of anime is good story/character driven cartoons that stress real storytelling and ideas over dumb "Anvil violence" , also, theres anime for every age and taste ( Even porno anime for those into that...not me, btw :eek: ) . As for the art being cliched , All superheros ( Which i hate except for Batman ) look the same to me; besides, you get used to the big eyes after awhile and learn to love them! :happyface

I know what you mean about the animation. I just don't seem to like it myself. My kids did like Pokemon and my brother did love Speed racer.

The ones I do like are the cutesy animals like Sagwa (the cat) and Kitty.
Sagwa isnt an anime....the subject is Asian, the animation isnt

Does anyone remember G-Force ? It used to air right after speed racer. My favorite anime of all time is VAMPIRE HUNTER D.
Actually, I think G-Force is the same thing as Battle of the Planets.

Actually, I think G-Force is the same thing as Battle of the Planets.
Yup, both are translations of the anime known in Japan as Gatchaman

if you like Inuyasha , check out "Fire Tripper" a story Rumko wrote/drew even before Ranma 1/2 , its often refered to as the Father of Inuyasha...its about a young girl who time travels to feudal Japan and meets and falls in love with an ancient warrior who is rough and crude, but deep down a good person...if he were a demon.....hed BE Inyasha. Other Takahashi series of note are in order of appearance"
Urusei Yatsura ( also known as LUM ), Maison Ikkoku, Ranma 1/2 and the Mermaid Sagas

...I just don't see the appeal.

What gives w/ the rage of imported toons from Japan? I can remember years back, the big ones where 'Battle of The Planets", "Speed Racer" & a little later on, "Voltron'. But in the past 10 to 15 years, there's been this huge explosion of toons from there & I am so tired of seeing the same style of artwork again & again. We all know it. The huge eyes, the angular features, the distorted body proportions. And when it isn't that, it's a new batch of cutesy little animals.
I know it's all probably a trademark of the style, but is anyone else sick of it already? And don't get me started on the actual animation. (although most of today's tv toons are guilty of that) To see the good animation, you have to go to the movies. With the fluid movement etc.

I dunno, maybe it's simply because it isn't aimed at me. I don't own a pack of Pokemon cards. But it sure has a big adult following...


To me, I've always found anime animation itself to be "stiff", unimaginative, emotionless, sloppy, and lazy. It does nothing to bring adequate life or emotional appeal to the characters, nor does it help to accentuate the physical inflections of the characters in most cases. I hate watching anime characters standing in one place with no other part of their bodies moving when they're talking except their mouths, and that's usually in a singular up and down motion. No emotions; no inflections.

There's basically nothing fluid about anime characters, their animation more like portraying people having seizures or drooling, hysterical fits than expressing true emotion (see picture in post above this one for an example).

Dialogue is one thing, but personal and physical body movement is also a huge part of translating a story across to the viewer, especially in an animated series.

If you like good animation then keep it "American" IMO, such as Justice League or a new, up-and-coming series named W.I.T.C.H., which does have some anime influences, but overall, is a great featured animated show.

You keep it American, Id rather watch something GOOD :lol:

You keep it American, Id rather watch something GOOD :lol:



Good, as opposed to anime animation/cartoons which insults one's intelligence, offers playground plots, weak storylines, aimless banter, and superfluous action which literally dumbs down the viewer to it's own level?

Then I'll stick with what you consider "not good" and actually be entertained. :rolleyes: :wave:

Good, as opposed to anime animation/cartoons which insults one's intelligence, offers playground plots, weak storylines, aimless banter, and superfluous action which literally dumbs down the viewer to it's own level?

Then I'll stick with what you consider "not good" and actually be entertained. :rolleyes: :wave:
Hello? What are you talking about Pokemon and Digimon? Because the anime i watch is a lot more complex than either of those kiddy shows ...Try Evangelion, Escaflowne, Magic Knights Rayearth or Slayers for instance, they have extremely complex plots however, youre so close-minded, im not going to bother with you anymore :wave: bye

Good, as opposed to anime animation/cartoons which insults one's intelligence, offers playground plots, weak storylines, aimless banter, and superfluous action which literally dumbs down the viewer to it's own level?

Then I'll stick with what you consider "not good" and actually be entertained. :rolleyes: :wave:

This is the most ignorant thing I have EVER read in this message board. Have you ever seen a series called Cowboy Bebop? I don't think so. If there is one thing that irritates me more than anything is people posting this type of garbage without actually knowing what they are talking about. And no watching only pokeman, yugioh, and whatever crap they spew on "Toonami" doesnt constitute you an expert in anime.

Try Evangelion, Escaflowne, Magic Knights Rayearth or Slayers for instance, they have extremely complex plots

You forgot Full Metal Alchemest. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/wink.gif

Seriously, Full Metal (not to be confused with Full Metal Panic)is one of the best examples of serious story mixed with a good amount of humor and great characters. Not to mention some pretty good music.

You forgot Full Metal Alchemest. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/wink.gif

Seriously, Full Metal (not to be confused with Full Metal Panic)is one of the best examples of serious story mixed with a good amount of humor and great characters. Not to mention some pretty good music.
Not to mention Video Girl Ai, the best romantic comedy even done in ANY medium....too bad the anime only goes as far as book #3 of the manga< my all-time fave manga

hey Greg and Johnny5 .... irashai , no Otaku ;)

Hello? What are you talking about Pokemon and Digimon? Because the anime i watch is a lot more complex than either of those kiddy shows ...Try Evangelion, Escaflowne, Magic Knights Rayearth or Slayers for instance, they have extremely complex plots however, youre so close-minded, im not going to bother with you anymore :wave: bye



Close-minded because I'm not impressed with monotonous unoriginality, banal storylines, and one-dimensional animation? It's a matter of opinion Mikado. I believe offering a more indepth critique and expectancy of anime animation hardly indicates "close-mindedness", but actually demonstrates a higher appreciation for it's evolvement potential beyond it's present stagnant and flacid existance.

The intuitive aspect of this is what indulges the actual stimulation for entertainment potential of a veiwer watching an animated series as compared to not accepting what could be a much better product?

Insinuating "close-mindedness" of another seems to me to be an indicator that being easily satisfied is a prerequisite of acceptance for your entertainment needs.

I think on more expanded, broader terms I suppose. No offense intended of course. Take care, it was enjoyable debating with you.

This is the most ignorant thing I have EVER read in this message board. Have you ever seen a series called Cowboy Bebop? I don't think so. If there is one thing that irritates me more than anything is people posting this type of garbage without actually knowing what they are talking about. And no watching only pokeman, yugioh, and whatever crap they spew on "Toonami" doesnt constitute you an expert in anime.




I find it quite interesting how it is repetitively insinuated as to what I have or have not viewed in the terms of anime animation in order to prove their own argument.

A weak defense if any, but the amusement value is certainly present. ;)

The "ignorant" and sarcastic assertions were "classic" playground btw. :lol: What next, your dad can beat up my dad? :rolleyes:
And putting words in others mouths is rather immature.

It's quite obvious you're irritated judging by your irrational response and illuminating descriptives as to what you have determined to be my line of experience or knowledge of the subject. I suppose that makes you an "expert" of all the posters here and their experiences as well? I imagine the irritation you suffer through every day dealing with us uninformed "dolts" must be quite overwhelming at times. :cool: Oh, to be as omnipotent as you. :crazy:

Regardless, that's hardly a viable tactic of illiciting my acceptance of an animation product which does not supply me the with entertainment quality it obviously offers you.

hey Greg and Johnny5 .... irashai , no Otaku ;)

Arigatou gozaimasu. *bows*

I find it quite interesting how it is repetitively insinuated as to what I have or have not viewed in the terms of anime animation in order to prove their own argument.

A weak defense if any, but the amusement value is certainly present. ;)

The "ignorant" and sarcastic assertions were "classic" playground btw. :lol: What next, your dad can beat up my dad? :rolleyes:
And putting words in others mouths is rather immature.

It's quite obvious you're irritated judging by your irrational response and illuminating descriptives as to what you have determined to be my line of experience or knowledge of the subject. I suppose that makes you an "expert" of all the posters here and their experiences as well? I imagine the irritation you suffer through every day dealing with us uninformed "dolts" must be quite overwhelming at times. :cool: Oh, to be as omnipotent as you. :crazy:

Regardless, that's hardly a viable tactic of illiciting my acceptance of an animation product which does not supply me the with entertainment quality it obviously offers you.
you are so obviously FULL of yourself, accusing us of making assertions while being uninformed, yet not offering an iota of proof of YOUR knowledge of the subject... frankly, Ive had enough of you, if you dont like anime, then fine, no need to call us who can appreciate it irrational or ignorant, you say you debate, but , debating doesnt consist of attacking something without any proofs of your assertions, I could easily attack your superheros in their underwear fighting supervillians , instead i gave you some examples of anime to study, but instead of taking the time to listen, all you can do is spew out a load of dictionary-speak with no true analysis behind it.

No offense intended of course. Take care, it was enjoyable debating with you.
Sorry, but im quite offended, thank you

Close-minded because I'm not impressed with monotonous unoriginality, banal storylines, and one-dimensional animation?

This is the reason why I called your post ignorant. You keep on putting up this stereotypical assumptions of what you THINK anime is. Granted, you are right some anime are exactly like that. But this does not apply to ALL (or even MOST) anime. And you still never answered my question because you know it would end this argument right away.

Forget about him Greg, hes not worth it ;)
Btw, notice how his idea of debating is to attack without giving anyone a chance to answer to his BS, then run away once hes spewed out a motherload of verbal dyheria, that seems shot straight out of a thesorus ?

As long as we finally have a few anime peeps here besides me , what are your favorites?

As long as we finally have a few anime peeps here besides me , what are your favorites?

Are you kidding? I don't think I can keep track of them all.

Let's see...

Yu Yu Hakusho
Rurouni Kenshin
Inuyasha
Blue Seed
VanDread
Witch Hunter Robin
Ghost in the Shell

So many I must have forgotten...

As long as we finally have a few anime peeps here besides me , what are your favorites?

I am an avid Cowboy Bebop fan. It is one of the most well written animes I have ever watched. It is an infusion of American type of culture (Jazz, etc) into a Japanese Anime. The soundtrack by Yoko Kanno is awesome. Once I showed someone who hated anime this show, and I TOTALLY changed his opinion of anime. Now HE is getting ME in to Full metal alchemist. Bebop is also one of the few that IMO the Dub beats the Japanese version with the exception of the voice of Vicious and "Ballad of Fallen Angels."
Also, the animation is just a Work of Art. Which is why I was pushing it so hard on the troll.

I also caught some episodes of Wolf's Rain, Ghost in a Shell, Witch Hunter Robin, Detective Conan and a couple of others.

Oh I would also like to add that I like the Big O (mostly the first season). I have alot of criticisms of the 2nd season that came a couple of years after.

I tend to prefer more classic anime like Evangelion, Urusei Yatsura, KOR, Sailor moon ( yeah, but, uncut in Japanese ) Ranma 1/2 ( Well, ALL Takahashi incl Inuyasha ), Escaflowne, Slayers and pretty much anything by Miyazaki ( I wonder if mr Grayman AKA "Otaku attacker BAKA-jin"
would even UNDERSTAND Princess Mononoke, he who thinks himself so superior to us )

I tend to prefer more classic anime like Evangelion, Urusei Yatsura, KOR, Sailor moon ( yeah, but, uncut in Japanese ) Ranma 1/2 ( Well, ALL Takahashi incl Inuyasha ), Escaflowne, Slayers and pretty much anything by Miyazaki ( I wonder if mr Grayman AKA "Otaku attacker BAKA-jin"
would even UNDERSTAND Princess Mononoke, he who thinks himself so superior to us )

I have seen Sailor Moon and Miyazaki's Spirted Away and obviously Inuyasha. Everything else I've only heard about.

I don't usually watch subs, but I've seen alot of subtitled episodes of Yu Yu Hakusho and it doesn't seem that different to me.

As far as animation goes I prefer the kind you see in shows like Yu Yu Hakusho and Rurouni Kenshin, but I watch all types.

I don't usually watch subs, but I've seen alot of subtitled episodes of Yu Yu Hakusho and it doesn't seem that different to me. .

Well, once you get used to reading fast, the superior acting of the Japanese Seiiyu comes through.( They have to take a 2 year course in seiiyu (voice acting) to qualify to do anime, wheras anyone with an Actra card, can do it here )...also, sometimes important parts of the original scripts are changed to avoid "offending" western tastes, something i really object to

...also, sometimes important parts of the original scripts are changed to avoid "offending" western tastes, something i really object to

I know what you mean. It would drive me crazy when they edited Yuyu on Toonami for the craziest reasons (the adult translation wasn't messed with though). No drinking, no smoking, no gay references. And they weren't even consistant. Why would the word "crap" be okay in some episodes but not in others?

It's also annoying when they reverse manga pages so we westerners don't have to put a little extra effort into reading backwards. Which never really bothered me anyway.

Have you ever played Metal Gear Solid (best game series ever by the way)? There's a character you would probably like. his name is Hal Emmerich, but he prefers to be called Otacon. He mentions "his Japanese Anime" quite frequently in the game and it even played a part in his career choice (he develops a bipedal walking tank, sound familar http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/wink.gif)

Anyway, I couldn't help but laugh when I first heard him talking about "his" anime.

Yeah, manga is better unreversed, the art tends to look sloppy in reverse

Otacon????????? :rofl:

I watch anime sometimes...but I don't watch them very often.

I watch anime sometimes...but I don't watch them very often.
Me too....only 5-6 nights a week :lol:

Does anyone here have Anime On Demand?

Does anyone here have Anime On Demand?
I do...its called 500 VHS tapes and 100 DVDs :lol:

STARBLAZERS RULED!

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STARBLAZERS RULED!
Actually, "Starblazers" was a chopped and channeled ( and heavily censored ), watered down version of Space Cruiser Yamato. ( I never cared for it, but my brother loved it )