Hello i think that After Thor guest stared on the First Incredible Hulk move the incredible Hulk returns. i think it would of been a awesome spinoff with Thor and that donald blake guy and having jack mcgee chasing him around like he did the Hulk and have David Banner show up every once in a while to help them out and all that other exciting stuff that would of been so cool!!!!

does anybody think this be a great idea Thor was awesome be a cool i hour show like with donald blake and thor running around town helping out people keeping away from jack mcgee and wreck haffick please let me know what you all think

I don't know. I just get all sorts of bad vibes about those Hulk reunion movies. They made two mistakes that are so similar. The first two movies that had Thor and the other one, is it Daredevil? Anyway, I feel they made those two Hulk movies in order to get some kind of show started for Thor and Daredevil. It was like a Pilot movie that had an old character in it. You had to have something and you knew Hulk fans would watch it because it had Hulk in it. That's bad vibe 1.

Bad vibe 2 is the third movie. It was a sad ending, yet it was crappy. I remember on one of the old Hulk eps, it had Hulk hanging off a plane. I can't remember if he falls or not, I think he does, yet he lives in that Hulk ep. Yet the plane explodes and Hulk falls off and dies in the movie? No way. Just no way. Yeah, I know the whole deal with the Rebirth movie and Bill Bixby died before they could do it.

Oh yeah, another Bad vibe. Geez, I almost forgot this one. Where the hell did Jack McGee go? They could've had Jack in there and him finding out who the Hulk was and we could've gotten a halfway decent ending. I'm sorry, I just didn't like those movies. If I had to choose a favorite, I would've said Death of. It was better than the Thor and the Daredevil movie. Sorry our opinions kind of differ here. Maybe if they had some good writers, a Thor show would've worked out. Frankly, I just wouldn't watch a Thor show.

I know what you mean those e renioun movies wasnt as good as i thought and Jack mcgee like disapperd i wanted him to find out who the Hulk was and give us a dissent ending that we deserve and i just cant see the Hulk going on trial for a murder he didnt commit without mcgee being there you know what i mean just didnt make any sense was more like the daredevils movie than the hulks and i didnt like the ending of the 3rd 1 either having him die at the end after falling off a airplane i cried my eyes out when that happend im a big hulk fan always will be but they could of done better!

Originally posted by Michael L
I know what you mean those e renioun movies wasnt as good as i thought and Jack mcgee like disapperd i wanted him to find out who the Hulk was and give us a dissent ending that we deserve and i just cant see the Hulk going on trial for a murder he didnt commit without mcgee being there you know what i mean just didnt make any sense was more like the daredevils movie than the hulks and i didnt like the ending of the 3rd 1 either having him die at the end after falling off a airplane i cried my eyes out when that happend im a big hulk fan always will be but they could of done better!

Yeah, if they had to kill David off, they could've done something like him doing another experiment or those doctors in 3 could've tried to cure him. The cure royally screws up and he dies. I could've handled that. That might've been cool, but that true ending to the third movie was the biggest cop out.

I have to agree with Jenny here.
I was a big fan of the Incredible Hulk series, and I was thrilled they revived the show with a reunion movie.
While it was interesting that they brought some other cool comic book characters intothe live action world, it ultimately wasn't very satisfying.

I haven't seen the Ben Affleck "Daredevil" flick yet, but from what I remember, Rex Smith was a better Daredevil in the Incredible Hulk movie. With the release of the big screen version, I'm surprised Sci Fi channel didn't drag out the Hulk movie for another viewing.

Some of the parts with Thor dealing with modern Los Angeles were amusing, however.

Originally posted by TJL

With the release of the big screen version, I'm surprised Sci Fi channel didn't drag out the Hulk movie for another viewing.



Ditto to that.

What do you guys think of the new Hulk movie? I know it hasn't been released to theaters yet, but do you think it'll be any good? I'm kind of divided here. Maybe it'll be good, but I doubt it.

The CGI Hulk looks stupid, imo. When I was a little kid and I watched the Hulk tv show, I was scared to death of the Hulk. I'd always close my eyes every time David turned into the Hulk. I'm not scared of him now, but I bet a lot of people were scared to death of the Hulk. With this new movie, the Hulk looks like the Jolly Green Giant, something like that. Of course, if you flip the coin over, people would maybe label this Hulk movie corny or campy if they used a man as the Hulk.

I really shouldn't judge before seeing the final product, but I'm thinking this big Hulk movie is gonna spend millions of dollars to make it, but it's still gonna suck.

Originally posted by Jenny

What do you guys think of the new Hulk movie? I know it hasn't been released to theaters yet, but do you think it'll be any good? I'm kind of divided here. Maybe it'll be good, but I doubt it.

The CGI Hulk looks stupid, imo.

I've read some reviews of the upcoming Hulk movie from various movie rumor websights, and opinion is pretty much split down the middle, so CG Hulk is going to be an amazing achievement in computer animation, or it's going to look really stupid.

The upcoming Hulk flick is probably sticking to the ideas of the original comic book, so we're going to see a much different creture than the one performed by Lou Ferrigno.

Personally, I was never into the comic book or cartoon versions of the Hulk. I preferred the series.

Originally posted by TJL


I've read some reviews of the upcoming Hulk movie from various movie rumor websights, and opinion is pretty much split down the middle, so CG Hulk is going to be an amazing achievement in computer animation, or it's going to look really stupid.

The upcoming Hulk flick is probably sticking to the ideas of the original comic book, so we're going to see a much different creture than the one performed by Lou Ferrigno.

Personally, I was never into the comic book or cartoon versions of the Hulk. I preferred the series.



Yeah, I think it is sticking to the comic book. I'm afraid I don't know much about the comic book. I don't think it dived into the deep stuff that the tv show did. I don't think too many super hero shows dealt with deep stuff like child abuse, teenage drinking, etc.

Oh yeah, I can name one good thing about this Hulk movie. It might be the only one, but at least Lou Ferrigno did a cameo for the movie. I think he's playing a Security Guard, something like that. Too bad they couldn't get Jack Colvin. It would've been nice to see him, even if it's a small scene like him standing in a crowd. Maybe pay a little tribute to Bill Bixby at the end of the film during the closing credits. I know the tv show and this movie will be two different things, but Bill def. deserves some sort of tribute.

Originally posted by Jenny
The CGI Hulk looks stupid, imo. When I was a little kid and I watched the Hulk tv show, I was scared to death of the Hulk. I'd always close my eyes every time David turned into the Hulk. I'm not scared of him now, but I bet a lot of people were scared to death of the Hulk.

I was so terrified of the Hulk it wasn't even funny. My cousin and brother used to torment me all the time. That's exactly why Bill Bixby didn't want his little boy Christopher watching the show.

Along with "Dukes of Hazzard," "Dallas," and for a time, "Wonder Woman," the "Incredible Hulk (my favorite show of all-time) was what truly made my Friday nights a special event in the late 70's and early 80's.
As for the tv reunion movies, I agree that the first two were merely a springboard for proposed new series featuring Thor and Daredevil and the final one, a weak ending for a great series. I have to say thought that of the three movies, "Death of the Incredible Hulk" is my favorite because as much as was possible, it recaptured the more adult feeling of the series than had the two previous efforts. And David/Hulk were on their own and not partnered with some campy super hero sidekick. As we all know, Death of was not intended to be the final movie, Bill was in negotiations with the network for preproduction of "Rebirth of the Incredible Hulk" when he became ill and subsequently died.

On a sidenote, the episode Jenny mentioned with the Hulk hanging off of an airplane was "747," in the episode the Hulk manages to pull himself back in and does not fall. But I do believe that the Hulk could have and should have survived the plunge from the plane in the third movie; apparently so did Bill Bixby, as the fourth movie being planned could attest to.

Okay, I now have a beef with the big Hulk movie. Banner likes how he feels? What? Is that how the Banner felt in the comic book? I know for a fact that the Banner on the tv show wanted to find a cure. He was lucky to be the Hulk, so he wouldn't get killed in all the fights he got into, yet he still wanted to find a cure. I always assumed the comic book Banner felt the same way. I could be totally wrong. Maybe the comic Banner loved hulking out, but I still get this bad feeling about this whole new movie.

hello i just saw a preview of the hulk movie and it looks like the hulk will be annaimated he does not look like he did on tv. and its going be on dvd on june 16th 2003 i think its the movie if that is true than i dont this movie is going be anyratings booster and jack mcgee wont even be in the movie and lou ferrignio will be a security guard in the movie for about a second what a rip off you know!

Originally posted by MIKE L
hello i just saw a preview of the hulk movie and it looks like the hulk will be annaimated he does not look like he did on tv. and its going be on dvd on june 16th 2003 i think its the movie if that is true than i dont this movie is going be anyratings booster and jack mcgee wont even be in the movie and lou ferrignio will be a security guard in the movie for about a second what a rip off you know!

He looks like the f'n Jolly Green Giant in this new movie. I know I've said it before, but he doesn't even look scary. Say it'll be out in movie theaters the 16th? I prob. won't go and see it. I'll wait until it comes out on video.

Again, I guess they had to go with a computer animated Hulk. I could just imagine what people would say if Eric what's his face or Lou got into the green makeup and ran around being the hulk. It just wouldn't work. Unless you are a big tv Hulk fan, people wouldn't even know who Lou Ferrigno was.

I do have to say I'm a bit confused. I thought since this big Hulk movie coming out, they'd be pushing the old show. I haven't even heard a whisper out of it in years. I think the last hulk related thing Scifi showed was the 3 reunion movies. No mini marathons or anything like that. You'd think they would at least show the show during those mini marathons they have for classic shows like Twilight Zone and Star Trek, (among other shows). Hell, I've done thrown away my episode guide (I think) so I have no idea which eps I have and which I don't. I think I got mostly the last couple of seasons and other seasons mixed around with it.

Eh, wild possibility, but what if TVL gets it? Impressions posted a link with a rumor about Hulk might be coming to TVL. I'm sure if you look up Impressions or my old posts, you can find the post.

Here's the link to that post about the Hulk. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?threadid=67847&perpage=15&pagenumber=2

I went back to the thread posted and while I saw the original message, I followed his link to Morty's TV Page and was unable to find any mention of the Hulk on that particular page.

I have another question about this Eric Bana guy. I've never saw the guy in anything before. You can't really tell anything by the commericials for the movie, but is the guy wooden? Oh god, I know that didn't come out right so let me rephrase it. Some actors performance is quite horrible and the actor just looks wooden. He has the wooden performance going on. He can't act happy, sad, pissed, psychotic, he's just wooden man. So I guess what my question is, is Eric a good actor?

Hello Jenny nice to hear form you again! i dont know much about this Eric Bana guy this is the first i heard of him he does look a littel wooden he looks like a good actor but nobody compares to the original Bill Bixby the original David Banner and on the movie his name is gonna be Bruce banner which dont make any sense but i sure hope this Hulk movie aint a flop cant wait to see it!

I believe Eric Bana is from Australia, and this is his American film debut.

Hopefully the CG Hulk will be slightly less wooden.

;)

Originally posted by TJL
I believe Eric Bana is from Australia, and this is his American film debut.

Hopefully the CG Hulk will be slightly less wooden.

;)

Ah, I thought he was in some more movies. Maybe I have him mixed up with somebody else.

You ever go to the imdb.com boards for the Hulk? Whew, some people are saying the CGI Hulk looks like Shrek and some say he looks like a green turd. I'm serious, they say that.



Originally posted by MIKE L
Hello Jenny nice to hear form you again! i dont know much about this Eric Bana guy this is the first i heard of him he does look a littel wooden he looks like a good actor but nobody compares to the original Bill Bixby the original David Banner and on the movie his name is gonna be Bruce banner which dont make any sense but i sure hope this Hulk movie aint a flop cant wait to see it!

Okay, let me see if I have my wires crossed again. Um, what's that guy's name? Nick Nolte? Isn't he in the movie? Won't his name be David Banner as kind of a tribute to the show and he'll be Bruce's daddy?

Hey, last weeks Entertainment weekly had a cover story on the Hulk. It's way too long to type out. I'll try to scan it though.

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hey where is my last reply its gone oh well Jenny that was a couple of awesome pictures of the Hulk! i love watching the incredibel Hulk it will always be 1 of my favorite shows. do u have msn messanger so we can chat back and forth that be awesome please email me anytime> my email is mikeLutton667@msn.com cant wait to hear form u take care

You know, it might be easier for me to type the article--some of it anyway. If my hands get tired after the first couple of pages, I'll scan the rest of it. Here goes:

How a bulky antihero, an unknown actor, a sultry heroine, and a visionary director joined forces for THE HULK and found that even with a monster budget, it isn't easy making green.

First comes his fist, punching up through the floor like a battering ram- a big green battering ram. Stuntmen in soldier uniforms, pretending to be freaked by a creature that isn't actually there, tumble over the railing of the raised platform, expertly landing on cushions 12 feet below. Then the rest of him emerges, his body as thick as Jack's fairy tale beanstalk. Scores of additional stuntmen scatter across the set, which is supposed to be a secret military facility located in the New Mexico desert. A few throw themselves to the ground as if swatted aside. "Puny humans," says the contemptuous snarl on the green Goliath's face. Then he jumps. The camera, mounted on a crane, rises suddenly, then drops just as quickly, mimicking the leap of the invisible monster it's been tracking. The giant gives a roar, then bounds away. "Cut!" yells a man with a bullhorn. It's July 2002 on the Universal Studios lot in Hollywood, and principal photography on the high tech pantomime that is The Hulk is coming to an end. Soon the cast and crew of this reported $150 million adaption of the Marvel Comics antihero-starring an unproven box office entity (Eric Bana of Black Hawk Down) and an Oscar winning beauty (Jennifer Connelly of A Beautiful Mind) will disperse after an arduous shoot. All that remains is the arduous task of bringing to live the movie's real star: the computer-generated giant himself.

Look closely, though, and you can catch a glimpse of the incredible one on the soundstage. No, it's not the Hulk-head-on-a-stick (dubbed Elvis) used to give folks on set some idea of what they're working with (or at least where they're supposed to be looking). It's the soft-spoken Asian man in the crew jacket bearing the title Eat Drink Man Woman. He is Ang Lee, the 48 year old Taiwanese director of that 1994 import, as well as 1995's Sense and Sensibility and 2000's groundbreaking Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Watch him long enough, and eventually you will see him become the Hulk-sometimes for fun during a break and sometimes seriously during filming. His slightly hunched body crouches menacingly; his tired face contorts with rage. He lowers his shoulders and lumbers a step. He thrashes. It makes for a strange spectacle, as if there's something awful inside that's bucking wildly to be released. And there it is in the flesh: the defining struggle of making The Hulk. If fans believe the fate of this movie rests on whether the Hulk will look frighteningly real or frightfully like Gumby on steroids (as early trailers with unrefined F/X seemed to suggest), they may be right. But in many ways, the success of this film hinges on whether a director profoundly uncomfortable with revealing his own emotions has what it takes to let out his inner Hulk.

On the walls of Lee's office at Industrial Light and Magic in Marin County, Calif., there are two sets of framed prints. One contains images from 40 years of Hulk comics-panels of brawny, kinetic action drawn by Marvel legends Jack Kirby and John Bryne. The other set is composed of surreal vistas that juxtapose the everyday with the subconscious, painted by modern masters Picasso and de Chiric. Lee says his "unspeakable vision" of The Hulk is a fusion of these conflicting aesthetics. "You know the sword everyone is frantically after in Crouching Tiger-the Green Destiny?" says Lee, slumped meekly in his office chair. He nods toward the prints. "This is my new Green Destiny."

When Stan Lee and Kirby concocted The Incredible Hulk in 1962, they weren't thinking superhero meets Freud; they were thinking Frankenstein meets Jekyll and Hyde. "I thought, 'Wouldn't it be fun to have a monster who's a good guy?'" recalls Lee (Stan, not Ang). "But then I thought that could get kind of dull-what can you do with a monster running around smashing things? What if I get a normal man who turns into a monster, then goes back again? Now that would make life a little complicated" And very appealing: Forty years later, Marvel keeps cranking out adventures about "Old Green Skin," who actually started out gray, but was turned emerald because it didn't print quite right.

For more than a decade, Universal and producer Gale Anne Hurd (Terminator 2: Judgement Day) have been trying to make The Hulk, only to be thwarted for various reasons: creative dickering, prohibitive budgets, Marvel's financial woes. But in 2000, as rival studios began cashing in on Marvel content (Fox's X Men had hit big, while Sony was prepping Spider-Man), Universal made the property a franchise flick priority.

Enter Lee (Ang, not Stan), bounding up Hollywood's A list thanks to his art pop melding of martial arts and melodrama in Crouching Tiger.

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Thanks Jenny that was a cool articel u just posted u did a great job doing it also good job! i cant wait to see this hulk movie. i heard the Matirx is to be contiuned what a rip off hope this hulk is going be lot bettert cant wait to hear the rest of it

Universal had an in with the director and his producing-writing partner, James Schamus, having been associated with their 1999 Civil War opus Ride With the Devil. The studio first approached Schamus, a comic book fan. Intrigued, Schamus sold Lee (not a comic book fan) on the idea by positioning the character as a monstrous riff on the director's pet theme: emotional repression. "There's a lot of scary baggage that comes with the big green guy," says Schamus. "I knew that would interest Ang--to pitch it not as just a superhero film but as a horror film, too."

"To me," says Lee "the Hulk is the manifestation of the part of yourself that you're trying to deny...He's the big unknown that is hiding in the deepest level of brain structure--the reptile part of your brain, the 'fight, flight, fuc-' center. Bringing out that was the reason why I wanted to do this guy.: Sure he would jame the film with the character's trademark "Hulk smash!" "But I don't think that's the juice," says Lee. "It's just a good psychodrama."

Lee can see that clearly now, but in the early days his Hulk vision was hazy. When he first met with ILM's F/X wizard Dennis Muren (Jurassic Park), who would be creating the all-CG Hulk (neither makeup nor Jurassic style animatronics were considered), the director spoke less about what the creature should look like and more about the metaphysical and molecular makeup of his world. Lee had even created small sets, each about two feet by two feet, filled with sand, driftwood, bonsai trees, lichen, rocks-textures he wanted woven into the movie. Muren was baffled but inspired. "It was like, 'Where did that come from?'" he says. "But it was clear he was looking at the whole movie, the whole idea of 'Hulk'...Ang wants to absorb everything he can, then build the film like an artist would a painting, with this incredible sense of unity."

Connelly says she was similarly inspired. "When I first met him, I asked why he wanted to do this," recalls the actress, who committed to the project before Lee and Schamus even had a finished script. "He said, 'I don't know, but here are some of my ideas.' I just found those ideas so intriguing and creative and kind of brave."

The ideas, however, required organization, and Lee and Schamus struggled to corral the concepts into a screenplay. They wrote and abandoned two approaches. (For all their deep thoughts, first drafts kept drifting into the shallow ends of the character's mythos. "A lot of supervillians with updates on the waxed mustachios," laughs Schamus.) But after a key brainstorm-adding a mysterious father figure- Lee and Schamus arrived at a story that plays like this: After a flashback focusing on a military scientist named David Banner (Nick Nolte), the plot flashes forward to Banner's son, Bruce (Bana), also a scientist. He's just been dumped by another scientist, Betty Ross (Connelly), because, dammit, the emotionally aloof man can't open up. One day, an accident in their lab exposes Banner to gamma radiation. Henceforth, when he gets mad, he becomes a raging permutation of his id. Searching for a cure leads to conflict with Ross' Army-general father (Sam Elliott), an exploitative military contractor (Sweet Home Alabama's Josh Lucas), and Banner's dad, who holds the secret to Bruce's painful past.

The script would be massaged further during production, but Lee got the go-ahead from Universal 'On the biggest movie I had ever done,' he says with glee, 'just doing it the way I want.' Humble appearances aside, Lee does have an ego, and he relished the opportunity to operate a big-budget machine. "I think I earned it," he says with some dry humor. "I've had a series of successes to earn the freedom, the money, the resources, to work on a large scale."

"Wellll," says Mary Paren't, Universal's president of production, "it wasn't like we said, 'Great! See you at the premiere.' He had quite a bit of creative freedom, but we all had a shared vision at the start." And there were compromises on Lee's part. For instance, he had to adopt a technique he has long eschewed-previsualizing a film through storyboards-in order to allow Universal to create a budget. Nonetheless, he estimates that ''75 percent'' of the artistic process was his. "I hope it's a good marriage," says Lee. It definitely wasn't an easy one.

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A big part of Lee's 75 percent was the casting of Eric Bana. The 34 year old Australian actor is a star in his country, thanks to the TV comedy series Eric and Full Frontal. But to the rest of the world, he's known only for two humorless roles: a serial killer in 2000's art house release Chopper and a Delta commando in Black Hawk Down. In 2001, Lee asked Bana to meet with him in New York City, where they talked mostly about their children (Bana has two kids with wife Rebecca; Lee has two with wife Jane Lin, a molecular biologist whose expertise was tapped for the film). That was the extent of the audition. Four months later, while Bana was in Australia filming a movie called The Nugget, his cell phone rang. "I was looking out over the bush, being told I had to move to L.A. for The Hulk," says Bana, an unassuming man with angular good looks. "It was quite surreal."

Lee liked the actor for the edgy intensity he'd displayed in chopper. He also liked his underexposed face. "Ang was very astute in recognizing that someone too well known would be distracting," says Parent, who admits the studio wanted to consider more established stars (she declines to name names), but quickly cottoned to Lee's philosophy. Besides, as Lee himself says, "we don't need a big star to open the movie....The biggest star of this movie is the Hulk."

Upon landing the role, Bana instantly say his Hollywood profile bulk up. "The benefits have been flying for a while,"says the actor, now shooting Warner Bros.' Iliad epic Troy with Brad Pitt. But the character that could make Bana famous 'was difficult to get a handle on,' he says. Banner's tortured psychology proved elusive. "It was very daunting and a lot of pressure to find something that I could relate to and build the character around,' says Bana, who adds that Lee was a 'demanding perfectionist, but the beauty of this experience was walking away feeling like you could do anything."

Lee was satisfied with the performance, but confirms he had to finesse it out of the actor. "I had to drill him...and inspire him. But when we got something good, it's really good."

There was another risk in Lee's ultimate Hulk vision, and this one more daring than hiring an untested newcomer. The director wanted to slice the screen into panels-much like the TV series 24, but more aggresively designed so that the film, at times, would resemble a comic book layout. Universal was game, but nervous. "One one level, it was like, "Wow! This could be an awesome new visual language,'" says Parent. "On the other hand, it was like, "Yikes!" (The end result was neither Wow! nor Yikes! The finished film doesn't use as much of the device as Lee would have liked.)

Executing Lee's idea taxed both his cinematographer (Blue Velvet's Frederick Elmes and his actors. On his first day of filming, Sam Elliott walked on set for a short exhange of dialogue with Bana, only to find the room crammed with cameras, each assigned to capture footage for a different panel. "Lots of different angles," says Elliott, "from macro master shots to micro shots of my eyeballs." Lee spent two days on this scene and shot 108 takes. Adds Elliott: "The actors really needed to keep the juice going, and it was exhausting."

Not that any of this was easy on Lee, either. "It's a difficult movie to express," says the director. "Sometimes things get too frustrating and..."His voice trails off. "I lost it once," he says quietly. "It was very short. You might never have known...That's the problem: I cannot hurt another person's feelings. That's my weakness. It's difficult for me to throw a fit." He would have to learn.

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Thanks Jenny this is getting better and better this Hulk does look a littel strange doesnt even look like the real one from the tv show i wonder what Bill Bixby would be thinking of this whole move! anywhow you are a good typeist typing the whole artical by hand your good anywya cant wait to hear more

big pic and you're welcome to Mike. I'll email you sometime. Okay, it won't scan correctly. Size is too big. I'll try typing the rest of it tomorrow.

Thanks Jenny im having fun with this we schould do this more often the pics was awesome this is going be a awesome movie! cant wait to see it the first day it comes out cant wait till Knight rider comes out as well thats going be cool to see to cant wait to see what they do with that movie! anyway cant wait to hear from u again by the way where u from?

God, this really goes to show how much I change my mind. Only one page left. If I can't make it through that.... it isn't like I have 6 pages left or anything crazy like that.


It was never Ang Lee's intention to actually play the Hulk in his movie. When the director wrapped filming last August, his plan was to return to his home in New York, where he would edit the film and keep tabs on ILM's animation work via long distance videoconverencing. But then his Green Destiny threw him a curve. Last fall, ILM showed the director and Universal some techniques that would allow for an even more realistic "performance," particularly in how the Hulk's face could articulate emotions. Lee's conception of what was possible changed radically; a tender sequence between Connelly's Ross and the Hulk, for example, could now be constructed as a back and forth of intimate close ups.

That would require reshoots, which took place earlier this year-just after Connelly married her Beautiful Mind costar Paul Bettany and announced her pregnancy. "I was tired and crazy and a bit weepy on the edges," says the actress. "I was like, "Are you sure this is going to match what was previously shot? Are you sure it's going to cut together?" It would also require more dough-an estimated $20 million more. "It wasn't like we had to spend more money to fix or imporve," says Parent, dismissing rumors that the money was needed to do just that. "It was 'Wow, now we can have close ups-let's do it.'"

Ever the hands on auteur, Lee also decided he needed to oversee the work, which meant moving to Marin County for seven months. Moreover, Lee wanted to act out much of the character himself, instead of relying solely on the athletes, wrestlers, and a template for their work. "Really, only I know how he should act," says Lee, who likens his Hulk to Jackie Chan in Arnold Schwarzenegger's body. "It was the only choice we had."

So, garbed in a wired motion capture suit that recorded his movements, Lee performed everything from the raging "Hulk smash!" to a swooning Hulk in love. Finally, Lee had found a venue that game him permission to unleash his bottled up emotions. It felt fuc-ing great," laughs Lee, whose catharsis cost him a bout with tendinitis. "It was very therapeutic. I realized-this is why I needed to do the Hulk."

But for the ILM staffers who toiled on The Hulk, Lee's hovering presence-and peculiar vision wasn't always so flipping great. "It's been hard on the crew," confirms Muren. Lee who initially regarded the animators as button pushers, not artists admits to having been 'quiet and nitpicky.' Halfway through the process, the producers asked Lee to give the staff a pep talk. He agreed. "I needed to let them know I was a different kind of person," says Lee. Later that day, while reviewing the animation work, Lee shouted "AWESOME!" after the first shot hit the screen. The room exploded with laughter.

Whether moviegoers will yell "Awesome!" when the Hulk opens on June remains to be seen . Lee knew the film would challenge an audience's ability to suspend disbelief. Whild writing the script, he and Schamus devised a strategy to introduce their Day-Glo green Banner progressively, first under the cover of night, gradually bringing him into daylight. Yet no one realized just how cartoonish leafy colors would look on a neckless, 3,000 odd pound humanoid until the filmmakers saw ILM's initial work. consequently, the Hulk's hue-just as it did in the comic book's early days-has undergone constant adjustment.

But has the director's calculated nuance been undercut by Universal's hype building? While Lee and Schamus wanted to keep "Old Green Skin" in the shadows, his big mug has been shilling dairy in "Got Milk?" ads. And the studio's hastily put together commercial, which aired during the Super Bowl, had fans breathing the kind of fire "It looks fake!" that scorches a movie before it even opens. But Hurd and Parent insist those shots were unfinished renderings, marred further by crummy TV resolution. "I don't know if we would do it the same way if we had to do it over," says Hurd. "We weren't out there with our best hand."

"We have a good chance the audience will invest real emotion in this guy," says Lee, who plans on taking a vacation before considering a sequel. (He's not bound to it, though Bana is.) But in Lee's mind, the film is already a hit. "When the movie comes out, maybe nobody will think it makes any sense. I can't tell. I'm sure it's not a regular movie," he says. "But I'm very proud of it. It's been a rich, fulfilling experience, and nobody will take that away from me."

Then again, he quips, "maybe I'll see a green tree this summer and go mad."

********got a few more pics to scan. I'll make a collage out of it and it'll only take up one more post. Might do it in a few minutes, might do it later.

Thanks, Mike. I've taken so many computer classes over the years, so I can type pretty fast and I don't have to look at the keys. Thanks again. :)

Originally posted by MIKE L
Thanks Jenny im having fun with this we schould do this more often the pics was awesome this is going be a awesome movie! cant wait to see it the first day it comes out cant wait till Knight rider comes out as well thats going be cool to see to cant wait to see what they do with that movie! anyway cant wait to hear from u again by the way where u from?

Hey, I'll try and type out anything else I see about the movie. Correction with my last post. I made a collage w/ 3 pics and another with just one pic. I'm from Georgia, btw.

okay, this is the last bit for now.

I was browsing on this video game link and I found a Hulk game.


http://online.sector.sk/hra.aspx?id=641

Hello i wrote this myself its from the hulk dessicion Board check it out my post is at the end its the real long 1 please tell me what u think!




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Mike L
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(6/6/03 8:42 pm)
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Hello i been wondering what if The Incredibel hulk Never got cancelled and was still on tv today on like NBC Or a station like that. what do u think David Banner would be doing today ? and if Bill Bixby was still around Today do u think Mr Mcgee would of found out his secret by now or do u think David will still be keeping it his secert after all these years? or would David have found a cure ! this is something i always been wondering? and im sure the rest of you Hulk Alcholics will be as well! i would love to hear your thoughts thank you!

Stephane Dumas
Unregistered HULK Fan
(6/7/03 5:56 pm)
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I guess McGee would had probably founded Banner's secret.

By reading the unfilmed script "Trial of Jack McGee" at Bryan's Hulk page, McGee could begin to ponder if TIH did really kill Eleina Marks. After all the Hulk arrived haning a witness just in time to prove McGee's innocence and a policeman had witnessed David's Hulk-out and probably talk to McGee about the description of "John Doe". And McGee will conclude than 2 and 2 equals 4.

Also, what if Universal had heard of CBS plan to can TIH, they could did some negociations to ABC or NBC, imagine the NBC line-up of Hulk with the A-team and Knight Rider!



Mike Lutton
Unregistered HULK Fan
(6/7/03 6:53 pm)
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Yeah that would be a awesome line up right on a Friday Night i could see it now!

8;;00pm A-team
9;00pm Knight rider
10;00pm Dukes of Hazzard
11:00pm Incredibel Hulk
12;00pm Fall Guy
1;00pm Greatest American Hero

imagine that line up friday night no news ever again lol that be a great tv land line up for sure ill be watching it for the whole6 hours!

Stephen
Unregistered HULK Fan
(6/8/03 5:59 pm)
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If the Hulk had not been cancelled and was still running today, no doubt the writers would have run out of plots.

But if it was, it would be interesting. The world has changed so much since the Hulk last aired and TV shows have always reflected real life to an extent. How would Banner deal with terrorism for example? And what about advances in computer technology (particularly the internet). If Banner was on the run in 2003, he wouldn't be able to keep it a secret. Someone would have a picture of him on the 'net.

Just imagine an episode where McGee (who would now be Editor-In-Chief of the National Register) types in 'David Banner' into the Google search engine and after extensive searching, finds a photo of Banner.

If the series was still running, Banner would be taking advantage of all the medical advances and looking for a cure still.

One thing's for sure-even repeats of the Hulk today are far better than the pure junk I see today (such as Frasier and Friends).

Stephen

ukhulkfan
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(6/8/03 7:12 pm)
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One idea I've always thought about is perhaps having Banner as an old frail man at the age of 70 still unable to shake off the creature and tired of running around and being chased all his life so he decideds suicide to end his pain but never manages it as he keeps changing.

So he enlists the help of a doctor to help him but she cant and her efforts to humanly kill Banner fall short so he decides to move to the next town after a hulk appearence alerts the attention of Jack McGee who is no longer a journalist but still chases the hulk from town to town hoping to be the guy that gets the spoils by capturing him


On Banners way he gets into a bit of trouble with some guys who are on the road and decide to pick on the frail banner. This causes Banner to chance but when he changes the stress and strain of it on Banners body was too much for a guy of his age so he has a heart attack and dies in the ditch at the side of the road.

Its a depressing and sad ending but what Hulk ending wasnt?

MichaelLutton
Unregistered HULK Fan
(6/8/03 8:18 pm)
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Hello that will be a very sad ending like if he died at the end of the road while trying to Hulk out at a very old age i will be crying through the whole show. in fact Hulk always seem to have a sad but tearfull ending. imagine this like a take off of the Michael Jacksons Thriller ending. have Banner run through the woods with some girl while running from a street gang trying to find them and all of a sudden runs in to this old building which is the National Register building and all all of a sudden people start crawling threw the floors and all of a sudden banner who will be like 50 or 60 year old by than.or somewhere around there, but anyway starts to hulk out and the girl starts yelling in horror. and during all this Mr Mcgee. was driving around following them and goes to the building when he hears all this raquet and finds a way in and all of a sudden he hears banners voice. and runs over to find him and Baner turns around and the street guys all gone David is trying to escape and sees Mr Mcgee and hears Banner your Alive. and of a sudden the Banner wakes up having dreamed this whole thing. and walks through the kitchen and finds that Lady who was in the Hulk returns and says did you have a nightmare. and says everything is fine remember i been cured for like about 3 years now it was just a dream and he says lets go for a walk along the beach and theyd do. and they are walking along the beach. and all of a sudden. Banner turns right around and the last thing u see is Banners white eyes again, and the camera zooms in and says the End the eye of the tiger song starts playing and thats the end is that awesome or what!!!


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That's quite an interesting post and idea. Imo, I don't think the Hulk could last that long. Um, who said what my thoughts were. Stephen said the running out of ideas. That'd be my opinion, too. Maybe Hulk could've lasted longer if they had better writers towards the end. It's been years since I've even watched the Hulk, but I thought the show started to get weak in the 4th season and it just died completely during the 5th season. I'm not sure what they could've tossed out to make it better towards the end, but I'm sure if they had brought in some new writers, maybe it would've been on for a couple of years more.

I have to respectfully disagree with Jenny's opinions on the Hulk's later years. While it is undeniable that the show began to falter in season 4 and season 5, I think like the original Star Trek's 3rd season, it was not totally without some exceptions. And even though the clunkers were becoming more prevalent, I think the episodes "Triangle," "Veteran," "Two Godmothers," and "Minor Problem" were fairly good episodes. Even the less than memorable "Phenom" had its moments. As I have said, for years, I always find something to like about every episode, even the weak ones. Like with Trek, I am just glad that we were given a fourth and fifth season.

So who saw it, this big Hulk shindig movie? Did it suck big time, or was it actually good?

Originally posted by Jenny
So who saw it, this big Hulk shindig movie? Did it suck big time, or was it actually good?

There's a new Hulk movie?

;)

Yeah im surprised u didnt know its the biggest film in the theaters it called Hulk its out in theaters now go check it out