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pandora_spocks
02-01-2003, 03:08 PM
I watched DVD at 2 this morning and it was one of my favorite episodes. Although, I'm a bit curious about the song Millie sang for her audition. Is that an actual song or was it just written for the show? Either way, it's truly was a work of art! :wave:

Leigh Ann
02-01-2003, 04:33 PM
Which song was this one, I can't remember. Was it "One of these days," or something like that? If it was, I think it's a real song, because Thelma sang it also on "Mama's Family," one of my fave shows and also where I got my username.:)

Lolac
02-01-2003, 04:43 PM
You mean her "audition" song? It was made up for the show. I think she is such a scream! That is one of my favorite episodes! I love when Mel does his ventriloquism routine. Lolac :lol:

pandora_spocks
02-01-2003, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by Lolac
You mean her "audition" song? It was made up for the show. I think she is such a scream! That is one of my favorite episodes! I love when Mel does his ventriloquism routine. Lolac :lol:

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
yep! the audition song. i think i woke up everyone in my house this morning for laughing so hard. not to mention i had the tube up really loud during that song. hehe.

I rewinded my tape and wrote down the lyrics. :lol:

My heart got a smash in the face,
That night I will never erase,
You saw me standing 'neath the sun and the stars
And I was something to see
And you just hold out my aching heart
And kicked it right in the knee
My heart has a terrible scar
I'll get you for this, wherever you are
But first I'll kill myself
I'm funny that way
But seriously, darling, you're okay.

MTM1Fan
02-01-2003, 06:51 PM
"But first I'll kill myself, I'm funny that way"


LOL!! That line is SO funny.

pandora_spocks
02-01-2003, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by MTM1Fan
"But first I'll kill myself, I'm funny that way"


LOL!! That line is SO funny.

I agree! :D :lol:

Leigh Ann
02-01-2003, 07:45 PM
Well-I guessed the wrong song! I do remember that one now! I think it's so funny!:lol: .
I remembered, "One of These Days," Millie's niece sings it at every family function! It was in the ep where Allan Brady wants to do a documentary at Rob's house, and Millie and Jerry's anniversary party is the same night.:lol:

pandora_spocks
02-01-2003, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by MamaFan
Well-I guessed the wrong song! I do remember that one now! I think it's so funny!:lol: .
I remembered, "One of These Days," Millie's niece sings it at every family function! It was in the ep where Allan Brady wants to do a documentary at Rob's house, and Millie and Jerry's anniversary party is the same night.:lol:

:lol: I remember that episode!

TVgen62
02-02-2003, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by pandora_spocks


:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
yep! the audition song. i think i woke up everyone in my house this morning for laughing so hard. not to mention i had the tube up really loud during that song. hehe.


That's such a great tune. Of course it's only effective if you have your standard-issue prop cigarette :cool: (a Kent, I'm sure). The song's title is "Sentimental Love Song", with the sentiment a little on the crusty side.

pandora_spocks
02-02-2003, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by TVgen62


That's such a great tune. Of course it's only effective if you have your standard-issue prop cigarette :cool: (a Kent, I'm sure). The song's title is "Sentimental Love Song", with the sentiment a little on the crusty side.

Thank you, for telling me the title! I've been referring to it as 'Millie's song' lol. Let me go grab a Marlboro (thats all i have) and start singing it. :lol: I could belt it out just as good! :D

TVgen62
02-02-2003, 06:27 AM
Originally posted by pandora_spocks


Thank you, for telling me the title! I've been referring to it as 'Millie's song' lol. Let me go grab a Marlboro (thats all i have) and start singing it. :lol: I could belt it out just as good! :D

You're welcome "Pan". ;) If you taped it, Millie says the title about the time she hands the sheet music to Sally and Buddy. It might be hard to hear because there's a lot of background noise.

pandora_spocks
02-02-2003, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by TVgen62


You're welcome "Pan". ;) If you taped it, Millie says the title about the time she hands the sheet music to Sally and Buddy. It might be hard to hear because there's a lot of background noise.

I started taping it after she said the title I think. I think about 'Words and lyrics by Mildred Helper 146 Bonnie Meadow Road..'. Now where's my cigarettes? I wanna get this song right! :lol:

jehobden
02-03-2003, 12:25 AM
According to The Official DVD Show Book, the song, "My Heart", had been written before the show was written by episode co-writer Sheldon Keller w/ Larry Gelbart, who later developed M*A*S*H for tv.

Artfiore1
02-03-2003, 06:01 AM
Hi everybody,
Yes, Millie's audition song was one of the highlights of that great episode. I didn't think the title was "Sentimental Love Song." I think she just introduced it as "a sentimental love song." Actually, what it should have been called was "a semi-mental love song."

Meanwhile, I wish to express a few other thoughts regarding that particular show:

I happen to be one of the all-time biggest Laura Petrie worshippers. And, I am fully aware of the fact that, as a fictional character, she and her actions are merely the products of someone's imagination -- in this case, writers Sheldon Keller and Howard Merrill.

With all that said, I have to state that I find Laura extremely annoying in this episode . . . although I *love* "Too Many Stars" quite a lot. First, there's all the false modesty on her part -- insisting that *everyone* get to try out for the play they were putting on, that she should get the lead part ". . . only if I'm worthy." She then proves the phoniness of that sentiment by not even auditioning wholeheartedly. Then, the moment she discovers that there's another woman in her living room who can both sing and dance VERY well, Laura is just DEVASTATED, even appearing at one point to be on the verge of tears! She reminds me of a first child after the birth of a new baby in the family, upset that she's no longer the center of attention. (I don't know -- I prefer to think that Laura was more mature than that.) Then later in the episode. she harps on Rob to admit that the Mexican woman (Anita) was "marvelous." And then, when he finally does, she actually gets mad at him!! Very disappointing, Laura.

I do love the final solution, though -- having both Laura and Anita performing together . . . with Rob.

TVgen62
02-04-2003, 04:41 AM
Originally posted by Artfiore1
Hi everybody,
I think she just introduced it as "a sentimental love song." Actually, what it should have been called was "a semi-mental love song."
OK, I'll go along with that. Thank you.

Originally posted by Artfiore1
Meanwhile, I wish to express a few other thoughts regarding that particular show:
I happen to be one of the all-time biggest Laura Petrie worshippers...I have to state that I find Laura extremely annoying in this episode...
I'll go along with that, too. However, I'll also defend the right of anybody (even a fictional character) to have a momentary lapse to their baser needs. Even Rob has shown his petty side. (Remember his behavior in "It's a Shame She Married Me"? It was painful to watch.)

Originally posted by Artfiore1
...I do love the final solution, though -- having both Laura and Anita performing together . . . with Rob.
Yes, I also like that number. But what did it have to do with 1840's California gold rush? It didn't look like a "period" piece to me!

P.S. - I apologize for reducing the length of your post. It was done solely for space considerations.

Artfiore1
02-04-2003, 11:11 AM
TVgen62,
OK, fair enough. As unjustifiably jealous and insecure as Laura acted throughout the entire series, Rob was not quite perfect, either.

As for the song at the end of this episode, I'm not quite sure I know what an 1840S California Gold Rush musical number is supposed to sound like. And, remember two things: 1) We're not seeing the entire play, and 2) This was supposedly a play which was rejected repeatedly by Alan Brady.


That song does have a way of getting into my head and hanging around a while.

Sitcom Sally
02-04-2003, 06:41 PM
Laura was meant to be annoying in "Too Many Stars"-- that what made what came later so funny. Remember how she was so confident she had that part nailed, that she didn't really even have to prove herself. Then along comes this gorgeous woman who dances as well as Laura, if not better, and suddenly what she'd taken as a given has become a competition.

After all the guests had left the Petries', remember Rob teasing her about her audition? "... then I'll do a little jeteé and sell 'em with the Look" (or words to that effect)... It was funny because 1) Rob hardly ever ribs or mocks Laura, but when he does, those moments are rich! and 2) Laura was so sure she was a shoo-in for the lead and her embarrassment after the other dancer's performance was priceless.

And... notice how Anita could barely speak any English, but sang it perfectly without an accent? :wave:

Artfiore1
02-04-2003, 09:02 PM
Sitcom Sally,
If it was the writers' and Mary's intention to make Laura annoying in that episode, they all succeeded magnificently . . . to me, at least.


I love the way Rob teases Laura after everyone leaves the house -- although he was really digging his own grave there. I'm not sure *I* would've had the nerve to do that if I were in his place, no matter how much I would've liked to.

As for Anita's singing in the end, maybe we're supposed to think she just practiced a lot.

TVgen62
02-05-2003, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by Artfiore1
As for Anita's singing in the end, maybe we're supposed to think she just practiced a lot.

No, Artfiore 1, I'm not picking on you. ;) It just so happens that your last comment is the perfect lead-in for my next statement.

Many actors and singers have dialogue and/or lyrics translated into other languages but written out phonetically. They memorize and repeat the pattern of sounds.

TVgen62
02-05-2003, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by Sitcom Sally
And... notice how Anita could barely speak any English, but sang it perfectly without an accent? :wave:

Ever notice...?

British singers sound "American" when singing! patriot:

American singers often have a stronger accent when singing than they do when speaking! :rock:

(See my previous post regarding the other portion of your comment.)

TVgen62
02-05-2003, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by Artfiore1
TVgen62,
As for the song at the end of this episode, I'm not quite sure I know what an 1840S California Gold Rush musical number is supposed to sound like. And, remember two things: 1) We're not seeing the entire play, and 2) This was supposedly a play which was rejected repeatedly by Alan Brady.

That song does have a way of getting into my head and hanging around a while.

Actually, I said it didn't "look" like a period piece (not "sound" like). The outfits looked contemporary whereas, originally, Laura was anticipating wearing her Annie Oakley costume for the play.

The closing number we saw may (or may not) have been in the play originally written for Alan Brady. One thing was certain, at least one role had to be either added or expanded in order to accommodate 2 leading ladies, hence the fuss over rewriting the play.

In any event, I always look forward to seeing that number. It's very cute, somewhat pre-Bob Fosse and (I agree) the song tends to stay with you for a while. :happyface