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~Tropical Punch 19~
01-27-2003, 05:40 PM
Okay, in school, my pseech class is doing this debate thing. 5 people are in my group and our topic is ... Should same sex married people be able to adopt children? Do you think they should or not? I don't want to start an argument I just need some advice so I can ahve a better idea of what to saya nd what optehr people's opnions are for my speech. thanks.

Chocoholic
01-27-2003, 05:42 PM
Of course same-sex couples should be allowed to adopt! There is NO scientific evidence that states that homosexuals don't make good parents.

*Marilyn Monroe*
01-27-2003, 05:43 PM
I think that couples in a same sex relationship should be able to adopt children. They should be put through the same tests as normal couples to see if they are going to be good parents, and if they pass, then they should be able to adopt children.

Georgia's on my Mind
01-27-2003, 05:51 PM
As long as it's a good home, who cares

but then again the child might not like the fact when they grow up that thats who there parents were...but then again back to my original comment as long as its a good home i think its great
someone i am related too was artificially inseminated? and she has a partner.. I wish she just adopted instead of doing something like that

Kristina
01-27-2003, 06:02 PM
Yeah I think they should, but the kids aren't going to like when two moms or two dads come to pick them up from school.

pandora_spocks
01-27-2003, 06:13 PM
Yes, I think they should be allowed. I don't think it should matter if they parents are the same sex or not. Just as long as the child(ren) get the love and support they need.

~LadyJess~
01-27-2003, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by Avril Lavigne
Yeah I think they should, but the kids aren't going to like when two moms or two dads come to pick them up from school.

Yes that's true but none of us got to pick our parents and very few kids are not embarrassed by their parents.

laceyinthesky
01-27-2003, 06:21 PM
Sexual orientation has nothing to do with being a good parent. The only thing I could see wrong with it that everyone would agree with is that the child more than likely will be made fun of.

bandito
01-27-2003, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by laceyinthesky
Sexual orientation has nothing to do with being a good parent. The only thing I could see wrong with it that everyone would agree with is that the child more than likely will be made fun of. HEY I WAS GOING TO POST THAT :lol: Anyway ditto.

Brian Damage
01-27-2003, 07:18 PM
There are plenty of opposite sex parents that have no business being parents. I see no reason why same sex couples can't have the right to be parents.

DarleneIllyria
01-27-2003, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by pandora_spocks
Yes, I think they should be allowed. I don't think it should matter if they parents are the same sex or not. Just as long as the child(ren) get the love and support they need.

Yeah, I agree with you.

~*Hannah_Lee*~
01-27-2003, 11:45 PM
I think they should. If they appear to be capable of being good parents, then why on earth should they be stopped? With all the abandoned children in the world, why would someone put a barrier on adoption for that reason?

¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
01-27-2003, 11:53 PM
I think they should. Same sex couples shouldnt be deprived of having children.

Swimfan85
01-28-2003, 12:07 AM
yah, I don't see why the couldnt or shouldnt be able to, or why can they only get married in certain states...thats wack

Kay Scarpetta
01-28-2003, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by Georgia's on my Mind
As long as it's a good home, who cares


Exactly. And my opinion goes the same for homosexual families and opposite sex familes (mom and dad). As long as they aren't abusing them, or are a broken family, who honestly cares?

Chocoholic
01-28-2003, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Miss Karly

As long as they aren't abusing them, or are a broken family, who honestly cares?

The holier-than-thou Bible thumpers are the only ones I know who are bothered by it. I think they should take their noses out of their Bibles and take a look at the world around them. We have kids living in squalid conditions or being shifted from foster home to foster home and these people would rather have those kids stay in those conditions than being adopted by a loving gay couple.

I don't mean to sound anti-Christian here. I am a devout Christian and I read my Bible and pray regularly. However, it does bother me when people use religion as an excuse to judge and condemn people instead of trying to improve society.

-*Forever*-
01-28-2003, 05:11 PM
How else am I gonna have a kid? Anyone who thinks they shouldn't is just stupid.

sami dg
01-28-2003, 05:32 PM
Im sorry but I cant go along with it based on my religious beliefs, I know it will probably make some people mad but thats just how I feel.

~Tropical Punch 19~
01-28-2003, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by sami dg
Im sorry but I cant go along with it based on my religious beliefs, I know it will probably make some people mad but thats just how I feel. yeah, see that's how i feel. The Bible specifically says homosexuality is worng and to have an innocent child living in a home like that isn't right. (don't get me wrong, I am not saying homosexuals are bad people)It's just I was brought uplearning different. And it isn't fair for kids to be teased and ridiculed at school. (they shouldn't be for that though) You say "well homosexuals ahve a rigth to ahve kids" Well, homosexual marrige is banned in like 20 something states, so if a homosexual decideds to get married they should realize that they are having to give up having kids. It's just not fair to kids. You also say "well in a home with a mom and dad, sometimes the dad or mom is a drunk, or abuses the kids." Well, homosexuals can do the same things to their kids too. They are capbable of abusing kids too. I just don't think it is right. Please please don't get mad at me for saying this. I am just stating my beliefs. I listened to all of yours.

-*Forever*-
01-28-2003, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by Rudy and Kenny4eva
Well, homosexual marrige is banned in like 20 something states.....

Do you know if it's banned in New York? If it is, I'm running away to Arizona (second choice is Bermuda :D)

Chocoholic
01-28-2003, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by Rudy and Kenny4eva
yeah, see that's how i feel. The Bible specifically says homosexuality is worng and to have an innocent child living in a home like that isn't right. (don't get me wrong, I am not saying homosexuals are bad people)It's just I was brought uplearning different. And it isn't fair for kids to be teased and ridiculed at school. (they shouldn't be for that though) You say "well homosexuals ahve a rigth to ahve kids" Well, homosexual marrige is banned in like 20 something states, so if a homosexual decideds to get married they should realize that they are having to give up having kids. It's just not fair to kids. You also say "well in a home with a mom and dad, sometimes the dad or mom is a drunk, or abuses the kids." Well, homosexuals can do the same things to their kids too. They are capbable of abusing kids too. I just don't think it is right. Please please don't get mad at me for saying this. I am just stating my beliefs. I listened to all of yours.

RudyandKenny4eva, I do respect your opinion. However, I have to ask a few questions.

#1. Would you rather see a child moved from foster home to foster home instead of being adopted by a loving gay couple?

#2. You say kids shouldn't be picked on because their parents are homosexuals and I agree. But how do you feel about the kids who are picked on because they're disabled (which was my case) or they're homeless or whatever. Do you think kids shouldn't have disabilities?

#3. If homosexuals should be forbidden from having kids because they might abuse them, then shouldn't heterosexuals be forbidden from having children too since they can also be abusive?

#4. How would you like it if I came along and said that I didn't think you deserve to have a child for some stupid reason?

I'm not gay, but I am disabled, so I know how it feels to be treated like crap because of something I can't control. EVERY law-abiding citizen in this country deserves respect, no matter what. Denying gay people basic human rights, like marrying and raising kids, is not respectful to them.

Chocoholic
01-28-2003, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by -*Forever*-


I'm running away to Arizona (second choice is Bermuda :D)

I wanna run there too. It's WARM there! :D

-*Forever*-
01-28-2003, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by WingsFan


I wanna run there too. It's WARM there! :D

Well, if you're talking Bermuda, I just wanna go there cos of Catherine..... :D Hehe well warm would be a lot better than -15...

~Tropical Punch 19~
01-28-2003, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by WingsFan


RudyandKenny4eva, I do respect your opinion. However, I have to ask a few questions.

#1. Would you rather see a child moved from foster home to foster home instead of being adopted by a loving gay couple?
I don't think that is right either, but I think children would perfer to be with different sex parents. Also, I knwo this really has nothing to do with the subject, but foster kids should eb able to pick what type of parenst they want to live with.
#2. You say kids shouldn't be picked on because their parents are homosexuals and I agree. But how do you feel about the kids who are picked on because they're disabled (which was my case) or they're homeless or whatever. Do you think kids shouldn't have disabilities? No one should be picked. I understand, because I was picked on myself. I think though children with homosexual parents would feel embarrassed to take their parenst to school events and stuff.
#3. If homosexuals should be forbidden from having kids because they might abuse them, then shouldn't heterosexuals be forbidden from having children too since they can also be abusive?
WEll, you made a point with a point. I said that because other people were saying "well children with heterosexual parents might be abusive to the kids wouldn't they want to be in a loving home?" So I was just saying homosexuals could do the same thing. And I think people who want to adopt (whether heterosexual or homosexual) should be carfully examined and profiled before thye are able to adopt a child.
#4. How would you like it if I came along and said that I didn't think you deserve to have a child for some stupid reason? I wouldn't like that. But it is clearly stated in the Bible that homosexuality is wrong. So people that are shouldn't have kids because they might be too much of an infleunce on the kid, and the kid might think that it is ok. i know some people think it is ok , but like I said i'm just stating my opinion.

~Tropical Punch 19~
01-28-2003, 06:26 PM
ha oops I kinda put my ansewrs in your quote. sorry.. i was confused.

AnaheimPMWitch
01-29-2003, 02:27 AM
Well of course they should they arent really any different then Heterosexuals are they have emotions to the only People that I DONT think should have kids are the ones that Abuse them thats JMO though

laceyinthesky
01-29-2003, 10:58 PM
I'm not 100% for it or against it, but it's bothering me how a couple of people here are saying that it shouldn't be allowed because homosexuality is a sin. What if the parents aren't homosexual but compulsive liars? Isn't lying a sin as well?

Plata
01-30-2003, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by WingsFan
#2. You say kids shouldn't be picked on because their parents are homosexuals and I agree. But how do you feel about the kids who are picked on because they're disabled (which was my case) or they're homeless or whatever. Do you think kids shouldn't have disabilities?

That's a good point, Kristen. I think the problem with the kids being picked on isn't the fault of the home they grow up in, but the people in the environment in schools and workplaces. In fact, it's not the problem that people are gay, or kids that have gay parents, or kids who have physical and mental disabilities. It's the ignorance of the people in the world who don't respect them
as human beings and make fun of them. People always say you
should repesct your elders, but how about respecting your peers?

AKA
01-30-2003, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by sami dg
Im sorry but I cant go along with it based on my religious beliefs, I know it will probably make some people mad but thats just how I feel.

Is how you really, truly feel or is it how you've been told to feel?

dawsongirl
01-30-2003, 03:05 PM
There are enough *****ty heterosexual parents out there to fill a large island. But because of their sexual orientation, they can be parents. Bull*****! Give babies to good people, despite the sexual preference, color, income, etc. I'm so sick of hearing about people that beat their kids, neglect them... :livid:

Czas na Zywiec
01-30-2003, 03:14 PM
Here's a question for all you bible thumpers out there. You have a child that's in an orphanage and two couples approach you tha they want to adopt this child. One of them is a heterosexual couple who have been drug addicts for over 20 years and they constantly drink and argue with each other. They also have a couple kids at home. The other is a homosexual couple who are kind, compasionate, and love kids. They haven't had any before. Now you can't keep the child at the orphanage anymore and you can't take it in. These are the only two couples who want to adopt the child. Which couple do you give it to?

AnaheimPMWitch
01-30-2003, 03:20 PM
well Yes I'm a christian but I dont agree with thier YOU CANT be homosexual and IF YOU ARE YOU CANT have kids thing
so in answer to our question Original Prankster I'D say let the Homosexual couple have the child atleast you'd know he/she would be loved and wouldnt be abused or anything like that in the future

Mossopp
01-30-2003, 08:05 PM
My veiw on same-sex couples adopting children is this -

I am a gay woman.
I don't want any children right now - and I certainly don't want to go through a 9 month pregnancy and all that crap myself! - but I hope to be in a long-term relationship at some point in my life and I have considered the possibility that my girlfriend may want to have/adopt a child.
Now, I accept that some people with strong religious beliefs feel that homosexuality is wrong because the Bible says so. What I wish to ask these people is this -
I don't believe in the Bible and the teachings of Christ. You are entitled to your beliefs and I am entitled to mine. But who are you to tell me that my girlfriend/wife (although unfortunetly gay marriage is not yet legal in the UK) cannot have the priviledge of raising a child?

I am not abusive.
I am level-headed.
I am accepting of all kinds of people.
I am understanding.
I am a good listener.
I believe in working hard to achieve your goals.
I don't tolerate drug abuse.
I don't tolerate violence.
I am a decent human being.

Are you going to try and deny me the right to raise a child simply because I am gay????? Simply because of an aspect of my life which I have no control of whatsoever????
How can you justify that?

Unwanted Angel
02-01-2003, 04:35 AM
Yes they should.... I mean if you love your spouse and love the kid then you should be able to have children

Kristina
02-01-2003, 04:46 AM
Originally posted by sami dg
Im sorry but I cant go along with it based on my religious beliefs, I know it will probably make some people mad but thats just how I feel.
Why don't you be your own person instead of changing your thoughts because the bible says so.

Kristina
02-01-2003, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by Rudy and Kenny4eva
yeah, see that's how i feel. The Bible specifically says homosexuality is worng and to have an innocent child living in a home like that isn't right. (don't get me wrong, I am not saying homosexuals are bad people)It's just I was brought uplearning different.

And what if the parents are loving and would take the best care of this child as possible?

And it isn't fair for kids to be teased and ridiculed at school. (they shouldn't be for that though)

Yeah and so did kids that don't have homosexual parents. All kids get picked on, I don't know one kid that hasn't been made fun of in school. Oh, and people shouldn't care what others think of them it's how they think of themselves that obviously matters.