I've just got to say this!!! Kathy really kicked Freddie when he was down. She had no sympathy whatsoever!!!! He was not just a fly by night person. He married her. He gave her a child. She kicked him when he was on the floor..... She should've done more to help him. I believe she never loved him..............

Ditto!

You go girl!!! i couldnt agree with you more!!! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif

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I really got angry today because I almost finished my website and I was really getting into the marriage portion of it. I had to stop. It just broke my heart for Freddie. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/mad.gif I'll tell you one thing. He may have had his problems but, she should have rounded up his so called friends (The big guys!!!) and taken him to the hospital. If he needed a straight jacket so be it. He was a danger to himself. (Especially that he was waving a gun) Also she should have alerted his parents that he was so stoned. She had to tell them. It was her obligation to. Instead she served him divorce papers and demanded loads of money. The man was sick. She had no heart. When he was on the floor she kicked him to the curb. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/crying.gif

She did not love him, she loved the money...

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Thats right,when she looked at Freddie she just saw his bank account.

FINALLY!!!!!! I see on other boards no kathy bashing.Well finally someone speaks the truth about her.I get so mad the thought of all she could have done if she truely loved him.She makes me sick.Even being a friend to him it seems as though all the people on this message board would be a better friend.And all us girls would have been a better wife.I would have took him kicking and screaming and do WHATEVER it took to get him help.even if it meant him hating me at 1st because in the end when he got his life back together then Im sure he would have understood it was out of love.



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Yes finally this dirty disgusting hooker is getting hers. That is what happens when you fall in love with a Hooker, they will get married to you and use you all for the money there getting paid to say i love you sweety its all an act.

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I COULD SELL YOU ICE IN THE WINTER AND FIRE IN HELL!!! IM A HUSTLER BABY;) NOW GET OUT OF MY GARAGE... CHICA 316

UUMMMM ok guys I aint defending that woman,,but just relax in what u say in case Freddie Jnr comes across this message board http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif Its his MUM your talkin about.

Yeah im sorry what in the world was i thinking calling her a Hooker? I was wrong what i really meant to call her was a filthy dirty disgusting Hooker.

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OMG ! This is too good of a topic! I watched the E Special and it just irritated the ____ out of me! How Freddie was involded in this because of that ! Blah, blah, blah. Kathy needed a swift kick in the hinnie for all her BS. She is just as guilty as much as the drugs were ! If she loved him as much as she claimed she did. Why in earth didn't she try to help him instead of whining for more money !

LIZ: Did you miss me?

CHICO: No I got you right on the lips.

[This message has been edited by hue_mee (edited 08-26-2001).]

AMEN!!! Very well said... Someone applaud this women!!! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif

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YES !!!!!!!!I WILL APPLAUD THAT WOMAN!Indeed!!!!!!!
Tell it like it is girlfriend!!!!!!! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif

It is sooo sad what happened to him. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/frown.gif I sure hope she loved him. If she didn't & Freddie had known, it would've broken his heart. Poor thing, I think he would've cried his heart out. I had read somewhere yrs ago that the reason he comitted suicide was that she was divorcing him & not letting him see the baby anymore & it broke his heart so bad, he could not go on anymore. I read somewhere awhile back that the day that he got the divorce papers & with them the injunction thing saying he couldn't see the baby anymore, (which I think was on the day he commited suicide) it broke his heart so bad & hurt him so bad that he just broke down & cried & just cried his dear heart out. I think I also read somewhere that the day he got the papers that after getting the papers, whenever he wasn't filming on CATM but was waiting around in his dressing room inbetween takes, waiting for filming to resume, that he cried all day cuz he was so heartbroken over her divorcing him. I think I might've read somwhere else (can't swear to it tho) that he had cried so much that they had to put extra makeup on him that day to hide it. Sooo sad... http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/frown.gif

I can't help but wonder why she hurt him so bad & made him cry when he was the type of person who cried easily? I read somewhere that whenever Freddie watched sad movies, he'd cry alot at the sad movies. His Mom would come in when he was watching a sad movie & find him crying hysterically over the sad movie, sobbing in his hanky. That showed right there that he could get upset & sad easily & didn't need to have his heart broken. If only he had known that there were lots of other girls who would've loved him & tried to help him.

I can understand Kathy was upset about the drugs but leaving him in his time of need was too drastic a measure. She should've given him help instead. So many folks didn't try to help him when he needed it. The dr should've never given him the pills or given him the gun back. He should've helped him.

Even tho I don't agree with how she did him, I don't want to be hateful about her either cuz after all Freddie did love her & would want me to be nice & she is Jrs mother & her or Jr could read the boards & I try to be nice to people. Anyway, this is such a sad thing. A dear sweet Puerto-Rican boy had his heartbroken & died. It is sooo sad... I am so sorry Freddie. If I had known you, I would've tried to help you... God bless you Freddie... I better quit writing on this cuz I am starting to get really tenderhearted like Freddie was & my hankys starting to disentigrate... http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/frown.gif

[This message has been edited by Cheryl Harrell (edited 08-27-2001).]

Just wanted to post something from his mother's book which I found, to clarify above
statement about not being able to see Freddie Jr.'

"The Freddie Prinze Story" by Maria Pruetzel & John A. Barbour

page 253

"In all of it, what hurt Freddie the most was that he was restrained from going to the house except to visit Freddie Jr."

"yes"!!!

Originally posted by FreddieFan:
Just wanted to post something from his mother's book which I found, to clarify above
statement about not being able to see Freddie Jr.'

"The Freddie Prinze Story" by Maria Pruetzel & John A. Barbour

page 253

"In all of it, what hurt Freddie the most was that he was restrained from going to the house except to visit Freddie Jr."

OOPS...... I Meant to say... "YES"!!!!! (for this quote)....

Even though this topic has been beat to death on this board, I will say again that I agree with everything Kathy did to protect her child. She removed herself and her child from a potentially dangerous situation. What is so wrong with that? Isn't that what a responsible parent is suppose to do? All that you "Kathy-haters" can see is what she allegedly did to Freddie and this was what pushed him over the edge. Take the blinders off, people. Don't get me wrong -- I was and still am a huge FP fan, but nobody knows what went on in his home. Now, before you crucify me with daggers of "Mrs. Prutezel's book" references, believe me -- not even a mother knows EVERYTHING that goes on in their children's lives after they've left the house. Especially a son.

My youngest son is 22, married with an 18 mo old daughter. My granddaughter is the most important person (next to my husband) in my life and if my son were to get deeply involved with drugs the way FP did, I would tell my daughter-in-law to take my granddaughter and get away from him ASAP. I would not encourage her to stay and 'rehabilitate' him if that puts my granddaughter in a potentially dangerous environment.

Again, don't pass judgment unless you know all the facts and unfortunately, that is something nobody will ever know.

Kathy

Horselover47,I totally agree with you.

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Horselover -

Your granddaughter is more important to you than your son? LOL

Ditto Croiter....... I know that she had already taken Freddie Jr. away to her mothers house. I do applaud her for that. If it were me he would probably see Jr. with close supervision. After all I as a mother must protect my child but, all I'm saying is... I just can't fathom serving him divorce papers when He was so Ill....

You must have a cold heart yourself. You most probably would've served him the divorce papers too. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/frown.gif

Hey HorseLover your the one who has the blinders on my friend after all your a horse right. Cause you cant see what is really the truth about Kathy.

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Croiter & JennyLee22:

My granddaughter is an innocent toddler -- her father is a grown man. The decisions he makes for himself are made entirely ON HIS OWN. Nobody forced him to do anything. Therefore, protecting my granddaughter would be my first priority. When that's done, then I would help my son and I never said that I wouldn't. I said my granddaughter's safety was first and foremost. My son will be the one to face up to his choices by himself. Unless you've experienced first hand the turmoil that living with a drug addict can cause on the family, you can't truly answer "what should Kathy have done?"

JennyLee22: Why are you so interested in the serving of the divorce papers? That was such an unimportant issue at the time. Are you saying the divorce papers is what pushed him over the edge? Which part? The financial impact or the fact that he was losing his wife?

In another thread you posted this:

"This is what was served to him...

Divorce papers from Kathy's lawyers...
$25,000.00 - in lawyers fees.
$10,000.00 - court costs.
$4,000.00 - a month alimony for Kathy
$1,000.00 - a month for the child

As well as retention of all properties held in Kathy's name.
Plus medical expenses and dental for her and the baby.

As you can see this really blew him away...... He had legal problems with David Jonas he was trying to work out...."

What I see is Kathy forcing him to be a responsible parent. I'm sorry for FP if he wasn't emotionally prepared for this undertaking, but if you are a mother, put yourself in her shoes. How was Kathy to know that FP was on the verge of suicide? Do you really think that's something you'd mention to someone in conversation? "....Oh, by the way, I'm so depressed I think I'll kill myself tonight."

Well, I know it's coming, so bash away.....but this is my opinion and I will stick by it. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif

Kathy

Horselover I totally agree!! What was she supposed to do? Don't have him served until he got well? And the problems with Jonas, whos fault was that? People begged him to keep Jonas but he wouldn't listen...He had to have his own way. and now he had to pay for it..it seemed he like a lot of people never learned from their mistakes..if only!!! anyhoo, that's my opinion...

.....and when did YOU become the expert on Kathy Prinze? Do you know her entire life story, chapter and verse? I didn't think so.... http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

BTW....my horses probably have more sense than you do and lots less prejudice. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/tongue.gif

Kathy

Originally posted by EdBrownJr:
Hey HorseLover your the one who has the blinders on my friend after all your a horse right. Cause you cant see what is really the truth about Kathy.

Now The reason I said that she should have not served him with the divorce papers is....

#1 - He was a sick man. She married him. I'm sure something must've clicked in her brain that "Gee" he's not well...... Let me back up.

2) - The newspapers back then commented that he had lost alot of weight. I was not a part of Freddie's inner circle but, she was and so was his friends. I see him sick when I see the last chapters. I'm sure they saw it too!

3) - I know he shouldn't have left Jonas... He made that mistake..... He had his money tied up in escrow because of it. All I said "was she could've waited"........ I personally would have gotten a job if he could not provide for me and the baby until the trial was over. I would've helped him out. She was a princess.........

4) - "I" being a fan of Freddie back then in the 70's recalled her serving those papers on Freddie. He was in agony over breaking up with his wife. Look at him towards the end of Chico and the man. Isn't it obvious.

5) I had a relationship with a man who was dragging me down........ I was 22 years old. I had NO child by him but, I tried my darndest to help him out. Yes.... he talked of suicide. Yes.... he was going to take me with him. Yes.... I was married to him too. It was a tough situation...... He almost killed me. It was a close call. Maybe this happened to her too.... I don't know. I would've called his mother and father to help me straighten him out. Plus his so called buddies. In my opinion he needed a hospital...


6) As far as she not knowing that he wasn't suicidal "Bull" You know why.... because my hubby's best friend commited suicide and no one could fathom What happened...... In Freddie's case he was using drugs, losing weight, freaking out, whatever..... I would assume that he could be thinking about it.

One more thing........ From the beginning I said Kathy shouldn't of asked the lawyers to serve him papers when he was ill. I will still stand my ground.... I said my views aboout this...... This is just MY opinion.... Some will agree... some will not. That's why this country is so GREAT!!!!

Oh by the way....... I have a 26 year old son.... If my son did whatever. I would be his mother no matter what. Sure my son and I have gotten into squabbles but, I love him. If he were ill, I would want my daughter-in- law to inform me. I wouldn't want anything to happen to my child.

Originally posted by horselover47:
.....and when did YOU become the expert on Kathy Prinze? Do you know her entire life story, chapter and verse? I didn't think so.... http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

BTW....my horses probably have more sense than you do and lots less prejudice. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/tongue.gif

Kathy



Ok now your really making no sense. First off who cares about your horses i dont. Second who is prejudice? Im not but what does it have to do with anything? Lastly if anyone is a expert on Kathy its certainly not you either.



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To answer your question:

I care about my horses.....that's really all that matters. I couldn't give a flying rats ass if you do or not, OK? Of course, you being the "big city boy" that you are, probably has never been within a mile of a horse....

Second to you...YOU my pea brained friend, is the one who's prejudice...you are prejudiced against a woman you don't even know. Methinks you may be just a bit jealous??

I'm not an expert on Kathy Prinze, but I am an expert on ME!!! Kathy and I are both parents...I can understand exactly how she was feeling when she did what she did to PROTECT, yes I said PROTECT her son from a drug addicted father....

Oh, and for you to spew the following only makes it clearer to me how ignorant you really are:

"Yes finally this dirty disgusting hooker is getting hers. That is what happens when you fall in love with a Hooker, they will get married to you and use you all for the money there getting paid to say i love you sweety its all an act."

-- also this --

"Yeah im sorry what in the world was i thinking calling her a Hooker? I was wrong what i really meant to call her was a filthy dirty disgusting Hooker."

Now, this is the talk of a jealous and prejudiced man/boy!!! Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?? http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/rotflmao.gif

Eddie, I have one word for you: PUNCTUATION!!! Check into it...... http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/tongue.gif

Kathy

Originally posted by EdBrownJr:
Ok now your really making no sense. First off who cares about your horses i dont. Second who is prejudice? Im not but what does it have to do with anything? Lastly if anyone is a expert on Kathy its certainly not you either.

Why dont you call me what you are dying to call me instead of a "Big City Boy" and thats a Yankee.

If i am prejudice against a women i don't even know. Then you are prejudice against a man you don't even know and thats Freddie. You bash him every chance you get by calling a drug addict.

I don't kiss my mother because i hate my mother you farmyard animal. Reasons for that are very personal to me and i don't even know why i am sharing that much with you.

As far a PUNCTUATION let me ask you how would you know about that since you live in Tennessee.

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Nah, Yankee is too good for you....all you are is a jerk.

I call him a drug addict because that's what he was....he was ADDICTED to cocaine, quaaludes and whatever else his doctor chose to prescribe for him. That little tidbit is not a secret, Eddie...it's common knowledge.

The fact that you "hate your mother" pretty much answers my questions about why you dispise Kathy Prinze so much. I really couldn't care less about WHY you hate your mother...that's for you and your maker to work out.....

It's pretty CLEAR to all that read here that you #1 cannot spell for crap, #2 cannot punctuate for crap and #3 cannot construct a legible sentence for crap. Doesn't say much for the education system in the State of New Jersey, does it?

BTW, for all of us down here in the great deep south....do us a favor -- STAY YOUR BUTT IN NEW JERSEY!!! TA!!! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/wave.gif

Kathy

Originally posted by EdBrownJr:
Why dont you call me what you are dying to call me instead of a "Big City Boy" and thats a Yankee.

If i am prejudice against a women i don't even know. Then you are prejudice against a man you don't even know and thats Freddie. You bash him every chance you get by calling a drug addict.

I don't kiss my mother because i hate my mother you farmyard animal. Reasons for that are very personal to me and i don't even know why i am sharing that much with you.

As far a PUNCTUATION let me ask you how would you know about that since you live in Tennessee.

So, why then, did Kathy ask for $4000 for her???? Was she too good to get out and get a "job"?

Horselover... http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/happyface.gif http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/rotflmao.gif http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/rotflmao.gif http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/happyface.gif http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/eek2.gif

Horselover, you make no sense whatsoever. You dont have any facts on the Kathy subject so you have to go off topic and attack my sentence structure. I dont even think i am making any errors here. If there are any errors at all its because sometimes you rush when your typing a reply.

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I don't have facts??? What do you have about Kathy other than some kind of warped hatred for a woman you don't even know?? You have nothing, that's what. Nada, nil. You hate your mother, so therefore all women are bad. The reason my posts are confusing to you is because that happens when you're only working with a few good brain cells!!! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/lol.gif

Also, if you don't think you're making grammatical errors, check again. Your grammar is laughable. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/rotflmao.gif

I don't rush when making replies. On the contrary. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/tongue.gif

Kathy

Originally posted by EdBrownJr:
Horselover, you make no sense whatsoever. You dont have any facts on the Kathy subject so you have to go off topic and attack my sentence structure. I dont even think i am making any errors here. If there are any errors at all its because sometimes you rush when your typing a reply.

Oh wow, this place sure had been interesting the past few days. I'm enjoying reading what folks write on the message boards. I have gotten very concerned about people leaving the boards due to the arguing. It's so sad to see good people leave. A similar but worse situation occured on my friend Arlo's message boards a coupla yrs back. Some folks on his website chased some good folks I like off of there. They wound up starting their own message boards & website. Some folks who are still on his official site aren't too keen about the fact that I really like the ones who have left. It was a sad & bad thing. I am so worried that this could happen on here & I would sure hate to see that folks have left for good or more folks wind up leaving. It would be sad if this sours folks from wanting to do Freddie stuff. In the Freddieless season we need to all pull together & keep his memory alive.

So I decided to start some message boards on Freddie Prinze/CATM that are specifically for people to write about controversial stuff that folks may argue on, such as Kathy & write about it there so that arguing doesn't get on any of the CATM/FREDDIE message boards or sites & yet people have a place to discuss this stuff & vent. I like everyone on here & would hate to see more folks leave. The idea occured to me to do this & maybe this might help things. It's just my public service to the Freddie community. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif Later on when I just my CATM/FREDDIE site finished, I'll put the urrl to these boards on the site.

Here is the Urrl to the Freddie Prinze Controversial Boards--(I titled them CHICO's PROBLEM after a title of a CATM episode.) Go for it & have fun (try not to kill each other too much tho LOL!):
http://www.voy.com/46518/

Cheryl - I've got to hand it to you. You are a trooper! Thanks.......

Thanks! I didn't want to see happen here what happened on Arlo site. Poor Arlo he was powerless to do anything cuz he doens't own the site, his webmaster friend who does it for him does. & The webmaster was on the side of those who chased good folks off the site. Don't know why my image of Freddie that is on the boards isn't showing up. Oh well... Have fun & try not to kill each other too much LOL! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif

I got a question.What does someones grammer have to do with anything?I didnt know one had to be a college professor to state their views on the board.I mess up all the time cause I type fast like most people do so they can get in everything they want to say.

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I also type fast (last count 100+ wpm) and I can get everything I want to say typed and even make sure the post is legible, to boot. What does typing fast and getting everything in you want to say have to do with one another? Just asking..... http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/wink.gif

Kathy

I was just wondering why you mentioned grammer.

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If Kathy was a such a great mother well then why did Freddie himself say she was not ready for motherhood and if she was so good at being a mother why did her parents practically raise Freddie Jr. Also you claim that Freddie was some crazy abussive drug addict towards Kathy, when there is no record or proof of physical abuse from Freddie towards Kathy or Freddie Jr for that matter. What did you just assume on that one like you claim i do when i make a statement.

Now you call me prejudice every chance you get. Let me ask you how the hell are you not predjudice cause you make fun of people from the east like myself every chance you get.
Just remember the
south lost the civil war because they were idiots like yourself.


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Being READY for motherhood and being a good mother are two very separate and different issues. Grandparents raising their grandchildren or semi-raising them is quite common -- doesn't mean a woman (or a man) is an unfit parent because their child spends alot of time at their grandparents home. Grandparents are golden influences on children -- since you hated your parents, it's obvious you didn't have a relationship with your grandparents, either.

"Also you claim that Freddie was some crazy abussive drug addict towards Kathy, when there is no record or proof of physical abuse from Freddie towards Kathy or Freddie Jr for that matter." On the contrary, Eddie - go back and re-read the post. I never said FPSr was abusive to Kathy or FPJr. I said it was a "potentially dangerous environment/situation", potentially being the key word here. Any time you have illegal drugs introduced into a home, the potential for danger automatically increases and if you say it doesn't, you're a big, fat liar!

I don't make fun of people that live in the east -- just you....and why the hell are you dredging up the Civil War? Is that the BEST you can do? http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/rotflmao.gif

Kathy

HorseFace, Who do you think you are Sigmund Freud or Dr. Spock (the baby doctor)
all of the sudden? You are getting out of control with all this crap your spewing out about motherhood. If someone is not ready to be a mother, is the kid
gonna have a great parent or life? Even Howard Stern said Kathy was wild and not fit to be a mother. Let me tell you yeah she may be a cool mother who lets her kid do whatever the hell they want but it's gonna catch up to them later on when this child does not respect them and begins to realize that they never cared about them enough to teach them the right thing.

You said there was a potential danger becasue of Freddie. Ok well then what about Kathy? I guess your gonna say that somebody who was not ready to be a mother and a former Call Girl Mother of the year only cause i say there not.





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Oh, that's rich, Eddie!!! Quoting Howard Stern!!! Like HE's some kind of expert and a voice to be trusted!! Yarite!!! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/rotflmao.gif

Just because somebody isn't ready to be a parent (let's include men in this equation, OK?), doesn't mean they'll ALWAYS feel that way. FPJr never said negative or disrepectful things about his mother -- only HS did and I belive him about as far as I could ....well, I'd never believe a thing he has to say and don't put one ounce of merit into anything he does on that joke he calls a talk show. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/tongue.gif

"You said there was a potential danger becasue of Freddie." Once again, Eddie, you've NOT READ MY POST or just read the words you could understand.... I never said there was danger BECAUSE of Freddie. I said there was danger because of the DRUGS that had been introduced into the household, not to mention the guns. Could you be dumber???

"I guess your gonna say that somebody who was not ready to be a mother and a former Call Girl Mother of the year only cause i say there not." All I can say to this is.....Huh???

Apparently, Kathy DID THE RIGHT THING by removing herself and FPJr from the home when things began to get scary which was the smart and responsible thing to do. It's very clear that you are not a parent because you have no clue as to what it feels like to be scared for your child. Until you do, you cannot and should not comment about what Kathy Prinze did or didn't do or what -- in your stupid opinion -- she caused.

"....begins to realize that they never cared about them enough to teach them the right thing." FPJr has NEVER said he felt his mother never cared about him. This is something you have fabricated in your melon head.

Kathy

Can somebody please tell me what a persons spelling and punctuation has to do with Kathy?Is someone just grasping for straws to be mean?? Just asking http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

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I am the queen of typos so if my spelling got judged I'd be in real trouble LOL! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/wink.gif

I never read anything of Freddie being abusive towards Kathy or anything. So I'll assume he wasnever abusive to her. I jknow he loved her so much...

I have no idea why she would bring up typos in a thread about Kathy. Typos and Kathy have nothing to do with each other and yet im being called dumb by her. It makes no sense i have different opinions and she is trying to make this into a personal thing. She cannot and will not win against me.

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I too always have typing errors, and in fact I just made one today at your site today Cheryl....sorry...lol!!! I was trying to correct it and then it posted twice. Ive NEVER heard anything about Freddie being abusive either.Cheryl I hope to go back to that site of yours I found on accident and now cant find again.I know ya werent done with it but, what you have done was awsome.Id love to start a Freddie site myself.

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you tell her Ed Brown Jr. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Horse - Ed is only giving us his views and how he feels. It shouldn't be because of his typing errors and mistakes.

We "ALL" make mistakes..........

Ed - may be angry at woman I don't know but, he just feels strongly about what happened to Freddie. He was such a talented man. In life there are some woman who drag men in the mud when they are down and out....... And vice versa.......

Some of us are diehard fans.... Of course we "ALL" were not there when he lived his life - we would have to assume that the media did a good job of giving us the details of their life together.


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JennyLee - A fan of Freddie Prinze Sr. & Jr.

Perfectly said Jenny Lee. Ed gave his views as a lot of us did.That doesn't mean he hates all women or he dont have many brain cells. It seems to me he has PLENTY! We are not all college professors and may spell incorrectly at times,so what! That has nothing to do with it and trying to belittle someone in that way to me is mean. Thats my opinion.I tried to be silent when I read this cause I really dont take pleasure in arguing, but I had to say something because Ed Jr. is only stating his opinion as I was before. Now he is getting corrected on his grammer http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/mad.gif Also he is a city boy? Well I am from California and Im a city girl, so what does that have to do with anything?


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The problem here is not in anyone stating their opinion, that is one of the purposes of these message boards. (Hopefully most people can differentiate between opinion and fact and will not be offended when questioned about a source for a fact.) The problem is that there are some individuals who resort to name calling and profanity when someone disagrees with their opinion. This is immature, distasteful and should not be tolerated. I hope that this is not allowed to continue, it is embarrassing to the memory of Freddie Prinze.

Thank you all who are respecting me for my opinion and not judging me because im from a city or because of my grammar or spelling.

I just want to also clear any misunderstanding that may be out there now about me. I do not hate all women and im not angry at them. I love women very very much. I just meant that i am angry at my mother and like i said the reasons why are to personal to me and are just horrible memories.

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R.I.P. AALIYAH, ONE LOVE MAMA. :(

I can't win against you?!?! Puhleeze!!! I already have!!! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/rotflmao.gif

Actually, YOU threw the first blow. Re: see this posted 08-27-2001 01:37 PM same thread.

The only reason I brought up the typos is that for someone that's trying so hard to sound smart, you type dumb. Ever since I registered on this message board, I've read all your posts where you've been trying to SHOVE your opinions of Kathy Prinze down EVERYBODY'S throat claiming they're the gospel according to St. Ed. Well, guess what...you didn't succeed with me, bubba and you never will.

Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it!!! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/dizzy.gif

Kathy

Originally posted by EdBrownJr:I have no idea why she would bring up typos in a thread about Kathy. Typos and Kathy have nothing to do with each other and yet im being called dumb by her. It makes no sense i have different opinions and she is trying to make this into a personal thing. She cannot and will not win against me.

Are u nuts??? In that post you claim i made the first blow in the fight over typos i never even mentioned typos once. All i said about you was that i thought you where blind and could not see the real truth about Kathy. Thats all. Stop trying to turn this into a personal thing cause its not.

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R.I.P. AALIYAH, ONE LOVE MAMA. :(

Forget about the typos, OK? Geeze, why don't you take a semi-unimportant remark and make it into a federal case??

What real truth about Kathy??? You DON'T KNOW anything ABOUT Kathy Prinze -- truth or otherwise!!! All you know is what you've read in tabloids and seen on third-rate talk shows. That is what I was talking about Eddie...the muck you keep spewing about Kathy.....the typos remark was just thrown in for good measure!

You are the one who turned this into a personal thing by referring to me as a "farmyard animal." You are the one that's blind.... I said you were wearing blinders and you called me a horse.

Like I said, you threw the first punch. I only did what anyone would do -- defended myself which I will continue to do and I will also stand firm in my belief that Kathy Prinze did absolutely, positively the right thing by leaving Freddie when she did.

Kathy

You HAVENT WON CRAP WOMAN!You horses ass! or Im sorry ,horses lover.Ive tried to be nice all along but it dont do me no good.And you sit there and bash Ed on grammer and where hes from and you talk about being a good mother,then you tear into him on hating women.Well he voiced his opinion and Im not going to sit by while you basically say he has **** for brains.Look in the mirror but use windex first.You rattle on a bunch of things that dont mean squat!Get back to the topic! what does him being a city boy have to do with it?Im in california and Im a city girl, so what!we have our views and you belittle him every chance you get.so what if he hates Kathy.So now he hates women? Good grief!There views.now your pickin on things that dont even make any sence.Hes not DUMB .....YOU ARE!He probably has more common sence in his little toe then you do in your intire body!


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By the way , stay your butt in Tennesse, us city folks dont want the likes of you here!!!!!! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/wave.gif

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[This message has been edited by LADY LOVES FREDDIE (edited 08-28-2001).]

Wow, what ripping comments!! (hehehehe) Looks like the education system in California is just as sucky as it is in New Jersey!!!

Face it -- you've lost. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/happyface.gif

Kathy

HEY!!!! Back to my question....Why, if Kathy was so GREAT( yeah right ) did she ask for $4000 a month for her??? Was she too good to get a job??? Or just too old to turn "tricks"???

My parents came by yesterday to get their cell phone back from me (I borrowed it for my trip to Ohio) & give me the PARADE article. The day before my mother mentioend to me on the phone she had it ready to give to me. She thought I wanted it for Freddie Jr & I said no it was for his dad the old man. (Well he wasn't an old man but ya know what I mean.) She talked like she'd read somewhere or heard somewhere that Freddie was a drug addict & wasn't so nice. I had to explain to her he was hooked on the pills & how sad it was. It's so sad to see bad rumors about him like that being spread around. He was someone with a problem who needed help & a dear young man.

No matter what peoples opinions or thoughts are on Kathy the sad thing is...

A dear sweet darling Puerto-Rican young man died in 1977. He sadly ended his life because his heart was broken & he felt no one loved him no realizing that people did love him including God. A dear Puerto-Rican mother grieves because she lost her dear & only son. A yr or so later she loses her husband as well. A baby was left without a father & 25 yrs later he still hurts cuz he never knew his father or had a father like other kids had. A daughter-in-law will never know her father-in-law. & Millions of people are left saddened by the death of a legend. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/frown.gif

I had forgotten to mention this: The other nite after reading all this stuff I was asleep in bed & dreamed about Freddie. He came to me & tapped me on the shoulder a few times. I woke up in the middle of it & realized that Freddie had tapped me on my shoulder in my sleep. I wondered if maybe my hubby Mike might've tapped me on the shoulder but then I realized & noticed that he wasn't in the bed anymore & had already gotten up for the day. I wondered if I should call him & ask him if he tapped me on my shoulder but then I figured he'd say it wasn't him. So I knew it was Freddie. Why he tapped on my shoulder when I was asleep I dunno. I figure maybe he is trying to tell me that he is looking down on us all & sees everything. Who knows? But at least he is happy in heaven & I know he is safe with God.

Tonite I saw a pic of Freddie from the ED TALKS TO GOD epsiode, one of the last pics ever taken of him & it broke my heart. (Tears)...

Wishing you all peace in the name & memory of Freddie Prinze... I am so sorry about what happened to you Freddie. May God keep you safe... (I better quit writing this before I get my puter waterlogged)...

i'm sorry. i don't mean to be too depressing, but honestly, i wish i had died back when this series was originally aired. it was a great show, full of happiness and love. although fred and lamont argued, you could tell they really loved each other. if you are reading this, maybe your life has been much better / happier than mine. i hope it really has. i dedicated my life to trying to help others, being as nice as possible to everyone. doing whatever good i could, trying to help make the world just a little better / little happier place. i thought if i could just help one persons day to be happy, or influence anyone in a posiitive manner, life would be meaningful -
"god" would "smile on me" or bless me in some small way. maybe if i helped enough people, even i could have a happy life. i guess not. oh well. i wish i had died back then.

How VERY sad.Im sorry you feel that way.I believe personally God blesses everyone but we all have our trials in life.I hope you find the peace your looking for.And I hope your feeling that you wish you died back then soon changes. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/frown.gif

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