I tried to record a episode off of WPSG, Channel 57-A UPN affilaite in philadelphia, and the episode of All in The Family was so badly chopped up that i couldn't keep it on tape. The same thing happened with Sanford and Son which is why I'm glad the marathon is coming on in 2 weeks on TV LAND. So i now realized that watching a sitcom on local tv stations are only for watching, not recording. For recording just stick to N@N, TBS, and TV LAND. Has anyone else tried to record a show off their local TV stations?

I recorded some "Saved By The Bell" episodes from KDOC, and they came out fine.

Originally posted by SBTB Geek
I recorded some "Saved By The Bell" episodes from KDOC, and they came out fine.

Well compare them to the episodes on TBS and you will see the difference

it must be a local thing in new york i dont have anything at all go wrong :confused:

Originally posted by eddie01
it must be a local thing in new york i dont have anything at all go wrong :confused:

Well local stations edit out tons of footage which sometimes has the ending looking incomplete. Just try to record a show off a local tv station and then compare it to the episode off a cablenetwork and you will see how much more the local station chopped up to make room for commercials

I watched I Love Lucy on...WPIX maybe? One of those NY stations anyway. Like you said, it was so badly chopped I had to laugh!

I think it all depends on the channel your watching, and where you live. I know someone from Minnesota who tapes shows totally unedited off of one of her local stations, and she says the channel is much better than Nick At Nite. You have to remember there are 50 States, and thousands of Cities in America and each one is different. Just because some of your channels butcher shows doesn't mean every local U.S. station does.

In 2001, I watched some Sanford & Son episodes on one of my local Fox affiliates, it was fine, hardly anything at all edited out (I timed it), same for Cheers and Taxi, which air locally on my other Fox affiliate. Cheers a little more cut out than Taxi, but I don't really watch Cheers all that often, so I can't really say how much is cut out. The same Fox also aired MASH for a while, it may still be on latenights while Taxi now only airs as a filler between sports and movies.

Like one poster said, it probably depends on where you live, all networks (local, etc.) are different. I personally enjoy syndicated airings because basically the REAL closing credits are intact, usually there's a voiceover, but those I can deal with. And I HATE the split credits on the networks now-a-days.

I don't think it is that bad. I recorded episodes of Roseanne, NewsRadio, Seinfeld, Will and Grace, 3rd Rock, and more.

I'm pretty pleased with them.

I tried it with ILL, terrible!:mad:

I never really had a problem myself, but I have heard from other people that some sitcoms were heavily edited.

Originally posted by Brian Damage
I never really had a problem myself, but I have heard from other people that some sitcoms were heavily edited. Yep. You should see WRAL 5 here. Sick. :mad:

I had someone from Indiana record Mork and Mindy for me off a local station. There weren't a lot of ads and only one episode had the "Mork Calling Orson" sequences edited out. These copies are probably much better than the versions aired on the Fox Family Channel a few years back, since there were not a lot of ads and the original ending credits were kept intact.

I find that the local station's "Munsters" broadcasts are "better" than what TV Land has the audacity to show. I noticed several scenes and dialogue in the local station's copy that tvland edited out. And one thing better about the local station, in regard to the "Munsters," they have the balls to air episode 53, without giving some lame arse excuse.

Originally posted by SOLOMON


Well compare them to the episodes on TBS and you will see the difference

I have compared them with the episodes that I recorded from WGN, and TBS.... and they have the same quality.

Originally posted by SBTB Geek


I have compared them with the episodes that I recorded from WGN, and TBS.... and they have the same quality.


Not quality, i wanted to know were more scenes missing out of the episodes you recorded off the local tv stations?

Originally posted by SOLOMON



Not quality, i wanted to know were more scenes missing out of the episodes you recorded off the local tv stations?

They edit the episodes as well as WGN, and TBS do.

TBS and most other stations air the same version of episodes as local stations do. However, stations like Nick-at-Nite, TV Land, and some others get different edits.

ignore this

Originally posted by Sean Snow
TBS and most other stations air the same version of episodes as local stations do. However, stations like Nick-at-Nite, TV Land, and some others get different edits.


This is very true....I do think that the worst edited of all the classic sitcoms are Gilligan's Island and The Brady Bunch regardless of whether they are the local or cable versions. Here is a question that I have, on the older shows, such as Gilligan's Island and the Brady Bunch, you'll see a "quick fade to black when something is edited" Yet, shows such as All in the Family, I Love Lucy, Leave it to Beaver and the Bob Newhart Show don't have the "fade to black" when something is cut out, yet we all know that these shows still have cuts in them, what is the reason for why you can see the quick fade to black when something is cut out on some shows and on other shows you don't?

Jack

Well, personally, I don't watch much on local channels anymore. But recently, Channel 50 in Chicago aired the Jeffersons and Good Times weeknights and I found those broadcasts much better than the versions that Nick at Nite and TV Land and TBS aired. It seemed like there was an extra minute of program topping off at 23:00 while on TV Land or Nick it was about 21 or 22:00 minutes.

Also, I prefer the syndicated versions of The Brady Bunch, Nick at Nite and TV Land's versions are rather chopped up and abrupt this is the same for The Golden Girls on Lifetime. Lifetime puts in abrupt commercial breaks while the commercial breaks that where seen on local channels weren't as bad.

Bottom line, I think local is better.

Originally posted by SOLOMON
I tried to record a episode off of WPSG, Channel 57-A UPN affilaite in philadelphia, and the episode of All in The Family was so badly chopped up that i couldn't keep it on tape. The same thing happened with Sanford and Son which is why I'm glad the marathon is coming on in 2 weeks on TV LAND. So i now realized that watching a sitcom on local tv stations are only for watching, not recording. For recording just stick to N@N, TBS, and TV LAND. Has anyone else tried to record a show off their local TV stations?

You are absolutely right!:eek:

Actually, TBS, Nick, and TV Land edit some of their shows just as much as local stations. There was a time when repeats shown on cable had fewer cuts than repeats shown in syndication, but that time has passed. Just look at Seinfeld on TBS or Cheers on Nick, and you'll know what I'm talking about.

Local stations also generally tend to have commercials in the right place, whereas the cable stations don't (they generally start the show right after the opening credits, which means they insert an extra commercial in the show in a place where it wasn't supposed to be). Local stations also generally don't squish the end credits of shows, which the cable nets usually do, to sometimes disasterous results (I pity the poor fool who wants to know who guest-starred on an episode of "Golden Girls" or "Designing Women" that's airing on Lifetime. Lifetime squishes and speeds up end credits so severely they're simply unreadable. The only reason they're there at all is that Lifetime--like all channels--is legally obligated to show end credits).

All in all, I prefer repeats airing on local stations. But around here the local stations only air shows from the last 10 years or so (Simpsons, Seinfeld, Friends, Spin City, etc). Anything that had the audacity to be made before the early 90s is never shown (with the exception of a buried-in-the-overnight airing of Taxi and a sporadic airing of MASH every now and then). So if I want to catch anything older than that, I turn to cable. Of course, these days TBS is just as bad as the local stations, and Nick is heading there......

Thank goodness for TV Land.

Mike

Originally posted by mrmikey
Actually, TBS, Nick, and TV Land edit some of their shows just as much as local stations. There was a time when repeats shown on cable had fewer cuts than repeats shown in syndication, but that time has passed. Just look at Seinfeld on TBS or Cheers on Nick, and you'll know what I'm talking about.

Local stations also generally tend to have commercials in the right place, whereas the cable stations don't (they generally start the show right after the opening credits, which means they insert an extra commercial in the show in a place where it wasn't supposed to be). Local stations also generally don't squish the end credits of shows, which the cable nets usually do, to sometimes disasterous results (I pity the poor fool who wants to know who guest-starred on an episode of "Golden Girls" or "Designing Women" that's airing on Lifetime. Lifetime squishes and speeds up end credits so severely they're simply unreadable. The only reason they're there at all is that Lifetime--like all channels--is legally obligated to show end credits).

All in all, I prefer repeats airing on local stations. But around here the local stations only air shows from the last 10 years or so (Simpsons, Seinfeld, Friends, Spin City, etc). Anything that had the audacity to be made before the early 90s is never shown (with the exception of a buried-in-the-overnight airing of Taxi and a sporadic airing of MASH every now and then). So if I want to catch anything older than that, I turn to cable. Of course, these days TBS is just as bad as the local stations, and Nick is heading there......

Thank goodness for TV Land.

Mike

I was told that if I record a sitcom off a local TV station and record the same episode off N@N or TV LAND, i basically have a UNCUT episode. So i have been recording sanford and son off my local station and will record the same episodes this weekend on the TV LAND marathon this weekend

Originally posted by mrmikey
Actually, TBS, Nick, and TV Land edit some of their shows just as much as local stations. There was a time when repeats shown on cable had fewer cuts than repeats shown in syndication, but that time has passed. Just look at Seinfeld on TBS or Cheers on Nick, and you'll know what I'm talking about.

Local stations also generally tend to have commercials in the right place, whereas the cable stations don't (they generally start the show right after the opening credits, which means they insert an extra commercial in the show in a place where it wasn't supposed to be). Local stations also generally don't squish the end credits of shows, which the cable nets usually do, to sometimes disasterous results (I pity the poor fool who wants to know who guest-starred on an episode of "Golden Girls" or "Designing Women" that's airing on Lifetime. Lifetime squishes and speeds up end credits so severely they're simply unreadable. The only reason they're there at all is that Lifetime--like all channels--is legally obligated to show end credits).

All in all, I prefer repeats airing on local stations. But around here the local stations only air shows from the last 10 years or so (Simpsons, Seinfeld, Friends, Spin City, etc). Anything that had the audacity to be made before the early 90s is never shown (with the exception of a buried-in-the-overnight airing of Taxi and a sporadic airing of MASH every now and then). So if I want to catch anything older than that, I turn to cable. Of course, these days TBS is just as bad as the local stations, and Nick is heading there......

Thank goodness for TV Land.

Mike


well it's official, the sanford and son episode i recorded off of my local station last night has a different version from the one I recorded off TV LAND on august 27th. So i guess that statement was true about having a uncut episode when you record off of a local tv station and cable station.

I took a look at a bunch of Mork and Mindy episodes (recorded from WHMB in Indiana) and they seem to be edited a lot. In the episode "Present Tense", they cut out the scene with the exterminator advising Mork to go back to his roots. In the "Pajama Game II" episode, in which Mearth invited a friend over to spend the night, the part where Bickley interrupts the party with a fire extinguisher is cut. There were also several episodes without the "Mork Calling Orson" sequences at the end; they just jump to the end credits.

Actually, I find in most cases, local edits are better, in some situations.

My local WB affilate's edit of The Andy Griffith Show has more "funny" scenes compared to TV Land (10:00 & 10:30 PM weekdays). Also, the edits of "We Love Lucy" (syndicated edits of L&D Comedy Hour - occasionally at 6:00 & 6:30AM) are better, even though 4 to 5 minutes more are missing than from the TVL edits. And, don't even get me started on how much better my UPN's edits of the original Star Trek are. (Altough TOS is back on Sci-Fi weeknights at 11)

I love TV Land and N@N, b/c they show alot of shows you can't find anywhere else. But, the Birmingham stations do show some shows that are not on classic TV stations.

Originally posted by ClassicComedyFan2
Actually, I find in most cases, local edits are better, in some situations.

My local WB affilate's edit of The Andy Griffith Show has more "funny" scenes compared to TV Land (10:00 & 10:30 PM weekdays). Also, the edits of "We Love Lucy" (syndicated edits of L&D Comedy Hour - occasionally at 6:00 & 6:30AM) are better, even though 4 to 5 minutes more are missing than from the TVL edits. And, don't even get me started on how much better my UPN's edits of the original Star Trek are. (Altough TOS is back on Sci-Fi weeknights at 11)

I love TV Land and N@N, b/c they show alot of shows you can't find anywhere else. But, the Birmingham stations do show some shows that are not on classic TV stations.


i agree with you. local stations do have better edited packages. This is a old post that someone responded to last night. i posted this message well over a month ago before i started realizing that most local cuts show more in the beginning and the middle of a episode. So this is a old post.

Originally posted by ClassicComedyFan2
Actually, I find in most cases, local edits are better, in some situations.



That's a BIG emphasis on "some".

The FOX station that we get here...I'm in central PA, and oddly enough, I get the New York based FOX...anyway, they HEAVILY trim FRIENDS when it plays at night. Some of the funniest lines that I saw in the origional broadcast are missing, only to make room for yet another Jarred/Subway commercial.

TBS seems to do a good job at keeping their shows fairly intact...although there are moments where an edit was obvious (laughing suddenly cuts out, character has moved slightly, etc.). Roseanne, Drew Carey,Friends, Home Improvement, and Seinfeld all seem to be in fairly good condition...although I never watched Seinfeld or Roseanne when they were origionally broadcast.

Now, don't even get me started on editing movies on TV....hmm...

Originally posted by BingAling889


That's a BIG emphasis on "some".

The FOX station that we get here...I'm in central PA, and oddly enough, I get the New York based FOX...anyway, they HEAVILY trim FRIENDS when it plays at night. Some of the funniest lines that I saw in the origional broadcast are missing, only to make room for yet another Jarred/Subway commercial.

TBS seems to do a good job at keeping their shows fairly intact...although there are moments where an edit was obvious (laughing suddenly cuts out, character has moved slightly, etc.). Roseanne, Drew Carey,Friends, Home Improvement, and Seinfeld all seem to be in fairly good condition...although I never watched Seinfeld or Roseanne when they were origionally broadcast.

Now, don't even get me started on editing movies on TV....hmm...


Yeah TBS did show the tag scenes for for Good Times and Three's Company. Something local stations rarely show in syndication.

Really, how bad is All In The Family when it's shown on a local station, because many years ago when I was little I used to watch and tape episodes off of WNYW FOX 5 here in New York and they were fine. I was also pleased with FOX 5 because when they showed the episode "The Boarder Patrol" they showed the scene with Archie's reaction to the men who were kissing each other in the bus station, unlike N@N and TV Land.