Below is a link from the Denver Channel site, featuring an August 2002 article on some of the recent developments in the 1988 murder of Lisa Marie Kimmel. As you might recall, Kimmel was on her way to visit her boyfriend when she disappeared, and turned up dead in a river. One significant thing about the case was her car because of the license plate that read LIL MISS.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/den/news/stories/news-159122220020802-090829.html

It mentions that they uncovered a car that may be her long-missing car. In addition, there's a potential suspect in the case. Click on to the link for more details.

Hope this helps.

Interesting. Thanks for posting the article. I remember that case. Hopefully, the investigation can go further with this new evidence.

It's nice to hear a murder case can still be worked on so hard despite the case being over a decade old.

Wow . . . this is one that I thought may never be solved. I hope it brings a resolution to the case.

This is my first post, after being an UM devotee since the specials in '87, and locating this site a few nights ago. I was particularly pleased to find out about the potential resolvements of the Lisa Marie Kimmell, Maria Zapata and Music City Row murders.

But what's dragging with the DNA test info regarding the incarcerated suspect in the Lisa Marie Kimmell ("Lil Miss") case? I read at least a half dozen articles from last August, when her Honda CRX was unearthed and positively identified using the VIN number. But there has not been a follow-up, in either the Denver or Montana papers, other than the suspect going on trial late last fall for killing his jailhouse cellmate. The August articles indicated a DNA sample was available and would be compared to the suspect's DNA.

And I had no idea how horrific the Kimmell murder was until reading those articles. Authorities believe she was held captive for the bulk of eight days, brutally raped and sodomized, before being killed only hours before her body was discovered in the water. Based on the experimental pattern of her stab wounds, experts think it was likely a serial killer, perhaps one responsible for all of the so-called "Great Basin Murders" from 1984 to 1998. The suspect, interestingly, has been jailed since '98.

An elderly neighbor remembered the owner of the property (the jailed suspect) digging the massive hole where the car was eventually discovered, at least six feet deep and with no license plates but a badly damaged front end. The guy told her he was digging a well.

I wrote e-mails to The Denver Channel.com and newspapers in Colorado and Montana regarding the DNA delay, but have not received a response.

http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?id=1&display=rednews/2003/05/19/build/local/30-lisa2.inc

http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2003/05/22/news/casper/93af076f9f80d0e77efa8fe26a9cf51b.txt

Part 2 of 3 parts

On July 3, 1989, Don Flickinger boarded a plane in Billings and flew to Portland, Ore., for his first official interview in the Lisa Marie Kimmell murder investigation.

It had been 15 months since the 18-year-old Billings woman was bludgeoned, stabbed and thrown off a bridge in Wyoming.

When the agent from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms landed, he met Dan Tholson, one of the lead investigators on the case for Natrona County, where Lisa's body was found in the North Platte River. Flickinger and Tholson had spoken many times on the phone, but it was the first time the two men met. They were in Oregon to speak with a county jail inmate who had been calling Kimmell's parents in Billings.

The interview was a bust. As Flickinger would find later, it was the first of many dead-end leads and disappointments in a case he spent six years on.

Some of the leads would take Flickinger as far away as Alaska and Texas. Others would have him questioning fellow law enforcement officers. He interviewed members of a cult, listened to psychics and sorted through thousands of tips from across the country after the case aired on prime-time television.

Flickinger followed every lead as far as it would go. Other cops called him "the vampire" because he took so many blood samples from potential suspects or people he wanted to rule out.

"Don was on a mission," said Sheila Kimmell, Lisa's mother.

"He was passionate about this case, and tenacious. He wouldn't give up."

Oregon rainout

The inmate in Oregon was doing time for a petty crime. In several collect calls from the county jail, he told Ron and Sheila Kimmell he had information about Lisa's murder. He wanted to make a deal with the cops before he would say more.

Flickinger and Tholson were hopeful. After more than a year, the murder investigation had stalled and now federal authorities were involved. Flickinger was officially assigned to assist the Natrona County Sheriff's Office a month before the trip to Oregon.

Flickinger and Tholson quickly determined the Oregon convict didn't have a clue about Lisa's murder.

"We flew all the way out there, went in and talked to him and were there maybe 20 minutes," Tholson said. "He didn't know a thing. He was looking for a deal. But that was typical."

Flickinger and Tholson stayed up late that evening at a Portland hotel talking about evidence and possible suspects. The investigators found they shared a common focus, and they agreed not to let interagency politics derail their efforts to catch Lisa's killer.

"There was a lot of ill feelings at the top between the federal agencies and the sheriff," Flickinger said. "It was never at our level."

Occultism

Shortly after joining the investigation full time, Flickinger met two FBI agents who gained some fame on the case of Arthur Shawcross, a serial killer who preyed on New York prostitutes. The agents were in Billings to give a seminar, and Flickinger cornered them for advice on the Lil Miss murder.

The FBI agents said the unusual knife wounds -- five in a pentagram pattern on the chest and a sixth under the sternum -- indicated a possible cult connection. The agents had seen ritualistic murders before, and told Flickinger not to ignore the occult.

Flickinger was willing to turn over any rock to catch the killer. During the next six months he interviewed about 20 people in the Casper area who said they were members of a cult. Some wore robes with a symbol similar to the pattern of knife wounds found on Lisa's body.

The cult members, including professionals and housewives, said they held meetings outside of town where unusual rock formations jutted up from the central Wyoming plains.

Rumors of the bizarre stab wounds on Lisa's body had spread. The story changed and grew with each telling.

"The biggest rumor was that her heart was cut out," Tholson said. "I don't think we could ever track how that started, but it just went all over, to everybody. We got phone calls and tips on that all the time."

Jack the dealer

Another crowd was spreading a different story about Lisa's murder, and they were more than willing to share their theory with investigators.

Flickinger and the Natrona County detectives received tips that a drug dealer named Jack was connected to Lisa's murder. Flickinger learned that Jack was in the Casper area when Lisa disappeared.

When he found Jack, the man told a story that had Flickinger wondering if the tips were true.

Jack said he was in Casper at the time to pick up a stolen snowmobile and haul it back to Montana. Jack said he met several people at a remote cabin and noticed a suitcase and two stuffed animals among their belongings.

Jack's description of the items matched what Lisa was known to have with her when she left Denver for the drive to Billings.

After numerous interviews, polygraphs and DNA analysis, Jack and several of his pals were cleared of having any part in Lisa's death. Flickinger learned later that the description of Lisa's belongings had been leaked outside the circle of investigators. Jack was telling a long story based on a few specific details.

Flickinger believes Jack was fingered by rivals who saw an opportunity to hurt the competition. Jack responded by implicating other drug dealers. The false leads occupied investigators for months, and came to nothing.

Vegas CRX

Rumors were plentiful, but solid suspects were hard to come by. So Flickinger wasted no time tracking down people whose names came up in connection to Lisa's murder.

When Ron and Sheila Kimmell received a strange letter from a Las Vegas man they didn't know, they gave it to Flickinger. The unsigned letter lamented Lisa's death, and included a return address on the envelope.

Flickinger called the ATF office in Las Vegas, and agents there agreed to drive by the address. The next day, a breathless agent called Flickinger and said there was a black Honda CRX parked in the driveway. It was the same model year as Lisa's car, and had the same sun roof.

Flickinger asked the agent to check the car's identification number and find the owner. Then he called Tholson with the news. Tholson alerted the crime lab team and arranged a flight.

But before they could board the plane, the federal agent in Las Vegas called back. The vehicle identification number didn't match. It wasn't Lisa's car.

Flickinger flew to Las Vegas anyway. The man who wrote the letter told Flickinger that he used to live in Cody and often went to Billings. He met Lisa at the fast-food restaurant in the Heights where she worked. He had a crush on her but never got up the nerve to ask her for a date.

Smitten, he bought a car just like hers.

The man was embarrassed, but he was no murderer, Flickinger said. Flickinger made sure by taking a blood sample. DNA from the man with a crush on Lisa Kimmell did not match the foreign DNA found with her body.

The sheriff

Other names were not as easy to rule out, or even to investigate.

There was a police officer in Texas who used to drive a taxi in Casper. The man's name was added to the suspect list when several people said he had acted strangely with women fares, sometimes taking a long route so he had more time with them in the cab. He was living in Casper when Lisa was killed.

Flickinger flew to Houston and met with the officer. Aghast to be suspected, the man quickly agreed to give a blood sample. The DNA comparison ruled him out.

Ron Ketchum was not as cooperative.

A powerful political figure in Casper, Ketchum had served as the county sheriff from 1987 to 1991. After leaving the sheriff's office, Ketchum taught criminal justice at the University of Wyoming and worked as a polygraph examiner.

He was elected to the Natrona County Board of Commissioners in 1999, and the next year was named chairman. Ketchum had made it clear from the start that he resented Flickinger's involvement in the case. Later, his resentment boiled into outrage when Flickinger asked him to account for his whereabouts the night Lisa disappeared.

Flickinger had reason to ask. A credible witness reported seeing Ketchum in a sheriff's patrol car on the night of March 25, 1988. The witness said Ketchum had a small black car with a young woman driver pulled over at the side of the road. Ketchum denied working that night, but dispatch records showed that he was.

No one in Wyoming law enforcement would criticize Ketchum publicly, but in private many cops told Flickinger of their gut feeling that the sheriff should be investigated.

Some of the speculation was tied to Ketchum's attempted suicide on the two-year anniversary of Lisa's disappearance.

In March 1990, Ketchum was found unconscious in his home from a drug overdose. He returned to work three weeks later and said he was being treated for depression. He left the sheriff's office the next year.

The timing of the suicide attempt, along with the other information, raised Flickinger's interest in Ketchum. He asked Ketchum for a blood sample and was met with a hostile rebuke. The investigation became mired in a political battle, which ended only after two other top officials in the sheriff's office volunteered to provide blood samples.

All three, including Ketchum, were ruled out as suspects.

In May of 2000, Ketchum drove to a remote area outside Casper and shot himself in the chest.

"Unsolved Mysteries"

One year after Lisa's body was found, the Wyoming murder case went on national television when "Unsolved Mysteries" aired a segment on the Lil Miss murder. The show received what was then a record number of calls from viewers, and the segment was rebroadcast several times in the years that followed.

Most callers reported seeing Lisa's black Honda with its Montana personalized license plates LILMISS. The calls came in from across the country, and a few from Canada.

"They flooded us, literally flooded us with thousands of phone calls," Tholson said.

Investigators spent weeks looking for solid clues from among the many reports, but only a few seemed worth following. There wasn't enough manpower or money to check on every sighting of a black sports car with personalized plates.

"We just tried to sort them out and somehow pick the ones that were most likely," Flickinger said.

Tholson believes that most of the callers really thought they had seen Lisa's car, or were so horrified by the story they were desperate to help.

Even police officers called. Flickinger flew to Anchorage, Alaska, to check out a cop's sighting of Lisa's black Honda. When he got there, the officer said he was sure at the time that he saw the car, but was probably mistaken. No one else there had reported seeing the missing car.

Flickinger caught the next plane back to Billings.

"They were legitimately nice people trying to help," Tholson said. "But I don't have a lot of faith in eyewitnesses any more. Virtually none."

The psychics

One of Flickinger's last attempts to crack the case came in 1994, when sisters from Great Falls who worked as psychics were brought in by the Kimmell family.

Flickinger and Tholson met the psychic sisters at the scene of the murder on Government Bridge.

The investigators were skeptical, but open to anything that could help. It had been six years since Lisa's death, and they were no closer to an arrest now than when her body was found in the North Platte below.

"At that point, I think we were looking at anything we could try," Tholson said.

The sisters walked around on the bridge, one holding a glass of water, the other a crucifix that had been given to Lisa by her father. They said they received images of a rural setting, and something about the number 2. They had a sense of something buried, but could offer nothing more.

Flickinger reached mandatory retirement age the next year.

Ron and Sheila Kimmell, who had since moved to Littleton, Colo., came to his retirement party. Flickinger and his wife, Linda, had grown close to the Kimmells, sharing the ups and downs of the investigation and the painful knowledge that Lisa's killer was out there somewhere.

Flickinger tried to share some hope. The foreign DNA found with Lisa's body could one day point to her killer. He urged the Kimmells to have faith and patience.

As I indicated in a previous post in this thread, I contacted the Montana and Colorado papers many times regarding the Kimmell case. I now understand why they did not reply with news of the DNA info: the match to suspect Dale Wayne Eaton had already been made, but kept secret from the public.

TJ's post, as indicated, is Part 2 of a lengthy and very detailed series from the Billings Gazette. Here are direct links to parts one and three (also available at the bottom of the page after going to TJ's first link):

Part 1: http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?display=rednews/2003/05/18/build/local/30-lisa.inc
Part 3: http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?display=rednews/2003/05/20/build/local/30-frustration.inc

This case demonstrates that DNA matching and databases, while invaluable, are still in their infancy. Eaton was jailed after a roadside assault in '98 and had his DNA taken, but the sample was not compared to the DNA evidence in the Kimmell case until 2002.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_1898242,00.html

Wyoming man charged in 1988 rape, murder

Lisa Marie Kimmell of Denver disappeared on trip to visit friends

By Brian D. Crecente And Hector Gutierrez, Rocky Mountain News
April 18, 2003

A man Wyoming officials say is responsible for kidnapping, raping and killing a Denver woman 15 years ago was arrested and charged in the crime Thursday.

A routine check of Wyoming's DNA database and subsequent investigation led to Dale Wayne Eaton's arrest, according to court documents.

Lisa Marie Kimmell, 18, disappeared in March 1988 while driving from her job in Denver to Montana to meet some friends. Her body was found April 2, 1988, near Casper.

Eaton, 58, was charged with four counts of murder, two counts of sex assault, a count of kidnapping and a count of robbery.

"This has been a day that we have long waited for," said Sheila Kimmell, Lisa Marie's mom, who lives in Littleton.

She found out at 2:15 p.m. Thursday, and soon after the Natrona County (Wyo.) District Attorney's office faxed her a copy of the 12 pages of charges.

"It was difficult to go over and review that information, but when we actually read the charges, all eight of them, and read some of the information that hasn't been shared with us before, it was difficult," she said.

The case has long haunted the deputies of Natrona County.

Kimmell disappeared while driving a desolate stretch of Interstate 25 near Casper.

Her body was discovered days later in the North Platte River about two miles downstream from Casper.

According to the autopsy report, Kimmell had been bound, raped, beaten and then stabbed six times in the chest and abdomen.

Her car, a Honda CRX with plates that read LilMiss, remained missing.

It took 14 more years for officials to get the break they needed to find that car and apparently solve the case.

On July 5, the Wyoming State Crime Lab found a match between DNA samples taken from Kimmell's body in 1988 and samples taken from Eaton when he was convicted of a felony years later, Thursday's court papers revealed.

The match came during a check of the state's database of DNA samples taken of all felons.

After getting the DNA hit, detectives began investigating Eaton, who was being held at the federal prison in Jefferson County on unrelated gun charges.

On July 29, deputies searched Eaton's property about 75 miles west of Casper in the unincorporated hamlet of Moneta. They found hub caps and taillight pieces of Kimmell's missing car in a well.

The next day investigators began digging around a mound that appeared to be a septic tank; buried 8 feet down was Kimmell's car nearly intact. According to court records, its wheels, seats, stereo and gear-shift knob were missing.

Eaton's son told investigators in 2002 that he remembers helping his father in 1988 melt down four Honda wheels to sell as scrap and that he helped install a stereo and Honda seats in a pickup, the new records reveal.

Dale Eaton was questioned last year. Earlier this month he was transferred from Colorado to the Natrona County jail to face unrelated charges.

Last year investigators said that there were two other "priority cases," one homicide and one missing person, that they were studying for possible links to the Kimmell case.

Greg Cooper, the former head of the FBI's behavioral science unit, said at that time that Kimmell's death "was definitely the work of a serial killer."

Reached at his home Thursday night, Natrona County District Attorney Kevin Meenan verified the charges but declined to comment further on the case.

Eaton's initial hearing on the charges will be Monday, he said.

Shirley Widmer, a friend of Eaton's who lives 30 miles east of Moneta, was shocked to hear of the charges.

"Surprised is the understatement," she said. "I just can't believe it - we've known the man. We just didn't think he was capable of doing something like this."

Sheila Kimmell remains cautious about the new developments.

"Regardless of our opinions . . . Mr. Eaton is still entitled to a fair trial," she said. "We (will) try to keep some balance, and that's a hard thing to do, and we're having a hard time."





crecenteb@RockyMountainNews.com or (303) 892-2811

:eek:

The man Dale Eaton 58 has been charged with Lisa Marie Kimell's murder. The DNA matched from him and her rape test kit sample. The death penalty is being sought in this case. He is also being charges on 3 other murder counts. They think he might have been involved in the disappearance of Amy Bectol in 1997 while jogging. They said that her stab wounds were unique and long and deep in the pattern of a hand. She also had a fractured skullas well. It think it is horrible how she died and the fact that she might have been held captive for 1 week and severely sexaully assaulted. This man will get a humane death compared to what she had to go through. I just hope that there will be justice on the other side and he will pay for what he did to her and her family. And I hope that she is at peace and happy whereever she is.

What a jerk. I am glad to know he's been caught. It just goes to show that time doesn't erase crime.

Thank you all for the updates. I didn't think this case would ever be solved. The online community has been great about taking over the job Lifetime should be doing.

I would like to thank everyone for not forgetting Lisa. It has been a long hard journey to have finally come to this point and we know that we will have many more difficult roads to travel ahead. We will never have closure (I hate term) because we will never get over what happened to her but this is another part of this tragedy we must get past. The support of so many wonderful, caring and concerned people have helped carry us through these difficult years and will give us the strength to deal with the hard roads we must face ahead.

My Sincerest Thanx,
Lisa's Mother - Sheila Kimmell

Does anyone have any recorded unsolved mysteries episodes of the lisa marie kimmell case or of dorothy allison. I never seem to ever get to record any of these episodes.

I've been wondering about this case for years. Lisa was too sweet to have died so tragically.
I wonder how the abduction came about? I know that it was a very lonely stretch of road.
Also, why hasn't Lifetime updated this case? Thank goodness we have such great members here who are keeping track of these tragic stories. :(

Angiev: I have recorded copies of Lisa's episode and if you would like to e-mail me with your mailing instructions, I can send you a copy.

Dilly: We still don't know "how" he got her and I don't know that we will ever know all the answers. They "theorize" that her car was disabled about 7-10 miles from his place. Did she hit a deer? Did he run her off the road? Maybe we will learn more during the trial, but I doubt we will ever have the answer to that question.

General update: The trial is scheduled for Feb 23rd and they have set aside 5 weeks for it. Two weeks for jury selection, 2 weeks for the tiral and 1 week for the sentencing phase. Then, even though Lifetime did not do an update on her case, Cold Case Files (CCF) on the A&E network have been in touch with us and plan on doing a segment on her story. For those who are not familiar with CCF, their format focus is on the dedication of investigators who anguish over cold cases for so many years and the technology that exists today to solve cold cases. They won't start working on it until the trial and it won't air until after the trial is over. I can keep everyone updated if they would like.

Thanx again for everyone's caring kindness,
Sheila Kimmell

This story was the first one on the 8pm UM last night...

Originally posted by Brent88
This story was the first one on the 8pm UM last night...

They showed it at 8 pm last night? I thought the 8 pm showing ended last week?

I'd like to know who was the mysterious girl seen driving Lisa's car afterword. I'd also like to know who that strange man was. Just curious. Not to make light of anything but the composite of that man looked pretty scary, and also looked like Sonny Bono. Maybe it's just me. I'm glad they finally caught that monster.

It will air at 8pm for the rest of this week through Friday and 1pm through Thursday, then it's gone. Lifetime made that change at the last-minute.

In most likelihood, the girl seen driving Lisa's car those few times was probably Lisa herself.

Because of the no-decomposition state of the body in cold water, police have never CONCLUSIVELY established an exact time of death.

Lisa could have been alive a day or two longer (as witnesses say) and then been murdered.

I highly doubt after she was murdered that the person(s) involved would then in turn have her car be sigthed around and about.

Latest information I read is that the car turned up last year buried in some junkyard or someplace.

So in my opinion, those sightings were probably of Lisa herself though why she was off course and seemingly not alarmed we will never know..

Maybe this may help answer some questions about the car sightings from what we know.
1. Lisa made 3 trips through Wyoming between Montana and Denver prior to her abuction and and her car being unique at that time, it caught a lot of attention. I truly think that many of the people that reported seeing her car in those areas did see her at some time or another but were mistaken about the dates.
2. Ironically another young couple in Casper had also bought a nearly identical car and amazingly, at a glance, the female owner looked a lot like Lisa.
So, hence, I think that is why we got a lot "false-positive" sightings of her car.

Then, even though they cannot conculsively establish a time of death, I have always maintained it occurred on the 6th day, not a day or 2 after her abuction as they origanially theorized. Subsequently, the investigators now agree with my opinion that she was held for nearly a week and have evidence to support it. But that's a whole different story that I will not belabor you with at this time and it will come out later during the trial.

Originally posted by Zero
They showed it at 8 pm last night? I thought the 8 pm showing ended last week?

I'd like to know who was the mysterious girl seen driving Lisa's car afterword. I'd also like to know who that strange man was. Just curious. Not to make light of anything but the composite of that man looked pretty scary, and also looked like Sonny Bono. Maybe it's just me. I'm glad they finally caught that monster.

What was the situation with the strange man? How did he fit into the picture?

This case is very intriguing to me, especially because an arrest has been made 15 years later. It gives me hope that other cold cases shown in UM's early years can finally be solved.

I'm very interested in getting a copy of UM's segment on this case.

On a side note, this is bringing back memories of a UM case that I remember watching when I was young and yet haven't seen it since. It involved a young woman who got into a car crash but her body was found some distance away. I remember the map UM showed. The only other thing I remember is that there was one witness who claimed that he (or she? I can't remember the gender) passed the woman's car but that she was wearing different clothing to what she was found in. That's all I can recall. Am I totally off-base or is this familiar to someone else?

Well this is what I recall from the show. Some time after Lisa was found two witnesses came forward saying that they saw her car being driven around.

1. A lady driving saw a black CRX pull out in front of her with the same license plates saying LILMISS. She said she saw a girl with blond hair behind the wheel.

2. An older man who was a clerk in a store saw that same car, with a girl that looked like Lisa and a man inside. He recognized her from the flyers posted in the area. According to him they were sitting there talking very calmly. He was able to give police a composite drawing. That was apparently the last sighting of the car.

Once again, these sightings were after Lisa had been discovered. Maybe I'm wrong but I've seen that episode plenty of times and I doubt that I am.

No that is not true.

What they meant is that the sitghtings occured after the time authorities thought she might have already been MURDERED.

There were no sightings of her naturally after body was found.

Example:

Disappears say 11/10

Body Found 11/17 - week later

Police theorize she died 11/10 as well, but people see her 11/12. Remember body isnt found until 11/17

Hope that clears it up (dates are examples)..

You know, it might be the one I'm talking about. When typing up my last post I remembered how the witness said that the victim's car pulled out right in front of her, but decided to leave it out for whatever reason.

Was a map shown in the UM segment at all? With a dot and the words 'Body Found' next to it? And possibly the words 'Car Crash' with an 'explosion' shape? That's vivid in my mind.

Johnny, thanks for setting me straight. What an error.

Composite, UM did show that very map you are talking about however it had nothing about a car crash or explosion.

Thanks. I must have confused it for something else then.

It's always nice to delve into UM memories and have them confirmed, even if only partially. :)

Sheila,

Thanks for visiting and adding your information. My thoughts are with you and your family. I hope that the trial goes well!

Originally posted by Zero
Johnny, thanks for setting me straight. What an error.

Composite, UM did show that very map you are talking about however it had nothing about a car crash or explosion.

Just watched the episode since it came today.

It was "Speeding Ticket" and it was a crosshairs graphic!

Wow, so glad that was cleared up!

This message is to Sheila Kimmell. I have followed this case for the past 15 years, as I am a lifelong resident of Wyoming. Little did I know when your tragedy first occured, I would share your grief in a personal way.
I am so glad the man who took Lisa Marie's life has been finally caught. And I know what you mean about hating the term, "closure." My 19-year old daughter, Danice Day has been missing for two years this January 9. She was a young mother of two little ones and left them and all her possessions--her abusive boyfriend is the main suspect, but is still walking the streets, free to have more children and live his life. So, my heart goes out to you, as we both know there is no true "closure." If you ever want to know more about Danice, her website is daniceday.com and is linked w/ the Carol Sund Carrington reward fund. Thanks for your courage. Jonene Day, Cheyenne, Wyoming

Jonene

Thanx for your note and my heart goes out to you. I sent you a personal E-mail and hope it came through. I am still kinda new with this techno stuff, so if you didn't get it please let know.

FYI

I got a call from Unsolved Mysteries yesterday and they said they would do an update on Lisa's car being found but it may take them a while to get to it. It will just be a brief "blurb" but that's better than nothing. I had called them last April and requested they either upate the story or discontinue that segment as a rerun and of course, as most of you know...nothing happened. Then just a couple weeks ago we got another one of those calls at home from someone who thought they had information about her car after seeing her story aired not relizing it had been found. So, I called again but this time I left a message for Mr. Cosgrove and I was more assertive about doing updates on cases that were solved. When his assistant called me back, she told me they were under no legal obligation to do so but felt they had a moral obligation and would do an update on our case. Because it may take them several months, it is possible that Lifetime could air it again before they get the update done. Since, I seem to only find out that her story aired after the fact, could you avid UM fans keep me posted if you see it aired again and if was updated or not? I am not going to let them off the hook on this issue!
Thanx, Sheila Kimmell

Ms. Kimmell, I will keep both eyes open and my vcr running at all times....if Lisa's story is re-aired and an UPDATE....whether it be audio visual or just a "Crawl" lettering update...I will post it right here in large font in this manner....."UM UPDATES KIMMELL STORY" and will give a description of what I see.


I am always happy to hear that time does not slow or numb the human need to find answers. I first saw Lisa's story only 2 years ago....but it was one of those stories that stuck in my mind for some reason. I hae viewed it several times over the past years...checking for patterns, rechecking maps, looking up old newspaper articles.....basically doing what ever the internet would let me do. I am thriled to hear this latest news and will be following the news reports from Wyoming as best I can.

Sean McCracken....UM fan since 1989
St. Albans W.V.

Thank you Sean. If you or anyone else want to monitor the trial events, these would be the best web sites to go to.

TV coverage: k2tv.com - they also have archives and search functions (bottom of their web page)

Paper: billingsgazette.com - they also keep archives and you can you can go to search and type in lisa kimmell

Paper: casperstartribune.net - they are not as user friendly but still a good source.

Thanx again Sean.

Mrs. Kimmell,

I too will pay as close attention as I can about when your daughter's story will air again on Lifetime. Unfortunately, the network is being a big fat pain and moving the show to different time slots it seems every week. That will make it a little more difficult (and annoying) to track, but I will do my best.

It pains me to see horrible things happen to good people. And doing something, anything at all, makes me feel much better inside. I know it isn't much, but after the hell you have been through, I want to help you out any way I can.

You and your entire family is in my prayers. And I wish you nothing but best wishes for the future. Take care of yourself.

Andy (dynoguy88)

Mrs Kimmel,
The first time i heard about your daughters dissapparence is when they found the car. I have been trying to recover any stories about her and what happen to her. The only thing I can find is when they found the car and the trial. If I email you can you send me a copy on the segment on your daughter. I can't even explain what I would do if someone did that to my daughter. My condolances go out to you and your family. I've lived in Casper all of my life but I was only 4 years old when it happened. So thats why I want to know as much as I can on the subject if you don't mind.

Sincerly,
Tiffany

Hi Tiffany,

No problem, I will do the best I can to answer your questions. I am not exactly sure what you are looking for so feel free to e-mail me and I will get back to you. Thanx for your kindness.

Sheila Kimmell

Hello Sheila.

I just want to say that I'm very sorry about what happened to your daughter Lisa, I've watched her story numerous times on UM and it's very heartbreakng. I also send my condolences out to you and your family. :crying:

Lisa Marie Kimmel has been close to my heart and my family's hearts long before she was even taken from this world. For the Kimmel family were our kindhearted neighbors years ago. Lisa use to babysit my three brothers and I. I was six years old when Lisa was murdered, but is still have memories of her. Though my imediate family no longer lives in Montana, our relitives there kept us up to date on the new information that came out about Lisa's case. I'm glad UM updated the case. Thank God in Heaven Lisa's murder in now in jail.

An evening about a month or so ago my mom, dad, my younger brother and I happened upon "cold case files" the a&e show not the cbs sitcom. They flashed a collage of pictures, my mom was in shock. It was Lisa. We watched the show, and though we learned some things about the case, I wish they would of done more of a background story on Lisa's life, nothing exploitive, but something.

Sheila, I'd like to let you know that you and yours have been in our prayers all these years. The Simon kids grew up. If your curious I have a link to our family website (hopefully it will work). My mom and dad have changed some, but you'll notice a lot more change to us kids.

God bless everyone.

-Becca

I appreciate this thread dedicated to Lil Miss Lisa Marie Kimmel.
Threads like this and the one on Carrie Culberson's site help keep Lil Miss present for us.:) Thank you!
http://findcarrie.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=murder1&action=display&num=1097149823&start=0

Here's a picture of Lil Miss, probaly her only on-line picture!
She'll always be in our hearts!

http://images.ibsys.com/2002/0813/1609621.jpg

Dear UM Freinds,

I have received many calls and emails concerning the latest news regarding another trial scheduled for Dale Eaton next month trying to prove ineffective defense. I just want to assure everyone that this is SOP (standard operating procedures) in a death penalty case. It is just annoying from the stand point that the system gets bogged down with these frivolous legal manuevers. (sigh)

Sheila Kimmell

God bless you, Sheila. I'm praying this scumbag gets what he deserves.

We are praying for you all. May God be with you, and may this loser get what he has coming to him.

TM

I started a thread for "Lil Miss" at: http://prodp.proboards47.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=cases&thread=1116088016&page=1
I pray that justice, as far as it's humanly possible, will be served. There can no compensation for losing Lisa Marie in such a cruel manner. Let's honor and remember her! She is no longer a victim, but a triumphant angel now.

Reduce the evildoer who took her from us to a nameless 'demonstration object' of a deterrent carried out. May this frighten other evil minded predators at large into refraining from their heinous acts. May we thus save future "Lil Misses" from such a horrific fate.

Im a friend of Lisa's cousin, I just thought you would all like an update on the Kimmell family. In honor of Lisa's 36th birthday that just passed the the Kimmells burned Eaton's property to the ground. The link below covers the story and video on CBS News.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/26/eveningnews/main712016.shtml

Also, Sheila Kimmell has written a book that was released the beginning of July 2005 called "The Murder of Lil Miss" that you can pick up on Amazon.com

is the only place you can find the book because Barnes & Noble lists it as out of print and Waldensbooks doesn't even have it listed :(

Later.

Dear UM Friends,

Again, thank you for your kindness and support. About questions on the book, the easiest and fastest way to get it is directly thru my distributor Pathway Books 1-800-345-6665. Borders are just starting to get it in some of their stores and other stores will handling it soon.

Best regards
Sheila Kimmell

Mrs. Kimmel, you may not remember me but you sent an e-mail to me about the note I left on your daughter's grave. I even remembered discussing the Culberson case with you but I believe many others have because of the similarities in the cars they were last seen driving.

I hope to read the book that you've written. I already saw excerpts from it on the web and the interactive storyboard as well. I couldn't look at it without tears.

They day your daughter was found was the day after my 19th birthday. I think that is why I feel this case more personally than other cases even that of Natalee Holloway.

Destroying the buildings on that property was probably the first step in obliterating any trace of that monster. I am glad however that justice has been served.

David

Mrs. Kimmel-
I have viewed your daughter's CCF episode(one of many that I have seen and one of a few that has stuck in my mind) and I just wanted to say that I am very sorry for what happened to Lisa Marie. No one deserves to perish that way and especially at such a young age. I am approaching your daughters age...and it is very difficult to believe that anyone could take a life when it is just begining. On a somewhat happier note, I was glad to hear that the scum-bag, lower than bile SOB who commited the hanious crime agianst your daughter has been captured and will be punished for his actions. I however do not think even the death penatly is enough punishment for his or anyone else's crime of this magnitude. I feel that he should rot in hell along with all of the other SOB's who commit such crimes. People who do such awful things really piss me off and they deserve so much more than what they get...and utlimatly rotting in hell doesn't even seem like enough.

"Reduce the evildoer who took her from us to a nameless 'demonstration object' of a deterrent carried out. May this frighten other evil minded predators at large into refraining from their heinous acts. May we thus save future "Lil Misses" from such a horrific fate." I agree....and atleast the people who have committed such crimes and who have been caught will no longer be able to hurt anyone else. That fact is somewhat satisfying....rather bitter sweet that these SOB's couldn't have been stopped eariler. They get what's coming to them on Judgement Day.

Once agian Mrs. Kimmel, you have my heartfelt sympathy...and anyone else who has endured such pain as having a loved one murdered at the hands of an evil person. Your loved one's will never be forgotten.

Rest in Peace, "LiL Miss".

Hi David and Gizmo,
I am sorry to get back to you so late to thank you for your notes. David we were glad to have that evil haunting reminder cleansed by fire - by burning it down. We couldn't let it stand in memory of our daughters life or death. We were somewhat surprized by the number of comments we received from across the country expressing how grateful they were for what we did. It validated it was the right thing to do. And Gizmo, thanx for sharing your thoughts. How unfair it is that if he ever receives his lethal injection, he will die in a relatively few painless minutes when he burtally torured Lisa for over six days. At least, he was finally found so he can't do that to some other innocent victim.

By the way, CCF is going run her story again this August 27th.

Thank you both for your notes and thoughtful kindness,

Sheila Kimmell

Your welcome, Mrs. Kimmel...God Bless

Sheila,

I heard about the book on a local radio station and it prompted me to write. I mainly wanted to say 'Hi' and let you know that you and your family have always been in my thoughts, even after I left the company. I honestly enjoyed working for you and with you. I pray that you may find some kind of peace.

Sincerely and with Love,

Wayne Linscott

I learned at the A&E web site that the CCF episode about "Li'l Miss" will be on tonight (Thursday, September 22). The show will be on from 8pm to 10pm.

I learned at the A&E web site that the CCF episode about "Li'l Miss" will be on tonight (Thursday, September 22). The show will be on from 8pm to 10pm.

Thanks for the heads up, Kane. I wondered why this thread had been bumped but I'm glad you did it.

Not just the show tonight, but also the previous posts I missed from July and August, when I was on vacation. I had no idea the Kimmells owned Eaton's property and had burned the house down, or that they had visited the property so often. That was a powerful article and video. I'm glad CBS covered it so well instead of letting an old case pass. The reporter did a fine job allowing the Kimmells to express their thoughts.

And I think it was a correct decision. I'm sure the sparse neighbors and anyone who lives in that remote area in the future will be told of that horrific incident, and wouldn't want the building where it occured to remain.

It really shocked me to read about the verification of the six days of torture. I know that was the longterm speculation but to read Mrs. Kimmell mention it specifically really got to me. I wonder if the Kimmells have met the elderly neighbors who told police about Eaton digging the supposed well on his property, the place the car was actually buried? I hope Mrs. Kimmell's book does well and I plan to acquire it.

Hi Awsi Dooger,
To answer a few questions - We never had the pleasure of meeting Doris Buchta, (the elderly neighbor) in person, only at the trial. She was a hoot! She had the entire court room in laughter including the judge. Regrettably, she passed away 2 months ago.

Then, we had only been to Eaton's property 3 times - so not as often as some accounts may imply. The first time was May of 2003 and that's when we immediatly knew we had to do something with it. The second time was just before the trial in Feb. of 2004 when we learned someone had hung a noose in his yard. The third and last time was in July of this year to burn the place down. Oh and yes we did go back a month after that to make sure the company we hired to clear off the debris didn't leave so much as even a tire rim.

Now, I hope you don't mind if I ask a stupid question but what does it mean when a thread is "bumped"?

Sheila Kimmell

We never had the pleasure of meeting Doris Buchta, (the elderly neighbor) in person, only at the trial. She was a hoot! She had the entire court room in laughter including the judge. Regrettably, she passed away 2 months ago.

Now, I hope you don't mind if I ask a stupid question but what does it mean when a thread is "bumped"?

Sheila Kimmell

It means that someone has submitted a new post, so the thread has been "bumped" back up to the top of the message board.

It's funny to hear about Mrs. Buchta. After seeing her on television, and finding out that she kept such a detailed account of her life, and of her neighbors lives, I knew she had to be a character. I bet she was so pleased to have helped so much in Lisa's case.

Hi Awsi Dooger,
To answer a few questions - We never had the pleasure of meeting Doris Buchta, (the elderly neighbor) in person, only at the trial. She was a hoot! She had the entire court room in laughter including the judge. Regrettably, she passed away 2 months ago.

Then, we had only been to Eaton's property 3 times - so not as often as some accounts may imply. The first time was May of 2003 and that's when we immediatly knew we had to do something with it. The second time was just before the trial in Feb. of 2004 when we learned someone had hung a noose in his yard. The third and last time was in July of this year to burn the place down. Oh and yes we did go back a month after that to make sure the company we hired to clear off the debris didn't leave so much as even a tire rim.

Now, I hope you don't mind if I ask a stupid question but what does it mean when a thread is "bumped"?

Sheila Kimmell

Mrs. Kimmell,

I watched the show last night. As nohwheregirl wrote, it's easy to see how Doris Buchta would have been a hoot at trial, and anywhere else. "He was what I call weird." I think that was the quote. The way she said it, the tone, was so indicative of her personality. It was very fortunate to this case for a perceptive neighbor to notice what Eaton was doing on his property, and where, and to make written notation of the date.

I bet you're glad that tape recording of the speeding ticket incident was made. The "yeps" and "yups" brought a smile to my face, very teenage carefree. Also, Lisa's reaction to the huge amount was much more restrained and polite than I ever could have imagined. "$120?," she said, no doubt in semi-shock. "And you need all of it now?" The first time I saw the show I almost cringed at the expectation of an argument, and perhaps even profanity, but that obviously wasn't Lisa.

What are your plans for the property?

As far as bumping, this thread now has 50+ replies among 4 pages. That's indicative of how many people care. On most internet message boards the most recent post "bumps" or "kicks" the thread atop page one, reverse chronological order. Just check out the other threads with very few replies. They will soon plummet page after page.

Your book has received two extremely positive 5-star reviews on Amazon.com. "The Murder of Lil Miss." Here's the link, for anyone interested in purchasing it: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0976747006/qid=1127503313/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-9144728-7977711?v=glance&s=books

Thanx for "bumping" up my IQ a notch or two.

We have no plans for the property - it is a worthless piece of dirt. So we will let the pairrie dogs and sage brush reclaim it. And yes, we couldn't help but cry when heard Lisa's voice after 16 years that the officer taped. We knew the tape existed but hadn't heard it until the trial.

And I hope you don't mind but I would like to share a few amusing moments we experienced with Doris Buchta at the trial. I included a large portion of her testimony from the trial transcript in my book but these are some of my fondest recollections. The prosecutor confirmed that Doris kept a daily diary for over 30 years then asked Doris if she remembered what she wrote in her Journal on March 24, 1988 - she retorted "no - I can't even remember what I did yesterday! That's why I keep a diary!" Inferring that was a STUPID question in her tone of voice. The judge leaned over and asked, "How old are you Doris?" Proudly she responded, "93 and a HALF" After the chuckles, the prosecutor asked her to read portions from her diary. "Let me see, I wrote that I wasn't feeling too good on that day........imagine that. Oh yes and I hang out the laundry, burned the papers and watched the quizz shows on TV... my, my, how exciting." When the prosecution was done, it was the defense's turn to question her, he said he had no questions but told Doris that she still had that good ol' sense of humor and she shot back - "might as well have or I might as well be dead!" As she was leaving the witness stand, she complimented the Judge telling him she didn't know how young and handsom Judges were these days and he was doing a good job, causing the Judge to blush.

Well, anyway, the trial was very difficult, impossible at times and Doris certainly gave everyone a welcome break with her wry wit and sense of humor.

Just a brief note about the book. You can also order it directly from my distributor at 1-800-345-6665.

Sheila Kimmell

This is the first I've heard of this case, but then, I always worked nights and never got to see much in the way of UM. I'm just glad they caught and convicted that scum. I'm sorry for all the pain you and your husband went through. Now let's hope that the judges will have some backbone and put him out of your misery.

Thanx for "bumping" up my IQ a notch or two.

We have no plans for the property - it is a worthless piece of dirt. So we will let the pairrie dogs and sage brush reclaim it. And yes, we couldn't help but cry when heard Lisa's voice after 16 years that the officer taped. We knew the tape existed but hadn't heard it until the trial.

And I hope you don't mind but I would like to share a few amusing moments we experienced with Doris Buchta at the trial. I included a large portion of her testimony from the trial transcript in my book but these are some of my fondest recollections. The prosecutor confirmed that Doris kept a daily diary for over 30 years then asked Doris if she remembered what she wrote in her Journal on March 24, 1988 - she retorted "no - I can't even remember what I did yesterday! That's why I keep a diary!" Inferring that was a STUPID question in her tone of voice. The judge leaned over and asked, "How old are you Doris?" Proudly she responded, "93 and a HALF" After the chuckles, the prosecutor asked her to read portions from her diary. "Let me see, I wrote that I wasn't feeling too good on that day........imagine that. Oh yes and I hang out the laundry, burned the papers and watched the quizz shows on TV... my, my, how exciting." When the prosecution was done, it was the defense's turn to question her, he said he had no questions but told Doris that she still had that good ol' sense of humor and she shot back - "might as well have or I might as well be dead!" As she was leaving the witness stand, she complimented the Judge telling him she didn't know how young and handsom Judges were these days and he was doing a good job, causing the Judge to blush.

Well, anyway, the trial was very difficult, impossible at times and Doris certainly gave everyone a welcome break with her wry wit and sense of humor.

Just a brief note about the book. You can also order it directly from my distributor at 1-800-345-6665.

Sheila Kimmell

Those are terrific anecdotes about Doris Buchta at the trial. Thank you for sharing them. I know anyone who is fortunate enough to live to that age, or even close, would love to retain the spunk and wit and sharpness that she had.

I had no idea your family hadn't been able to listen to that police tape until the trial. I guess I just assumed it was much lengthier than the Cold Case Files portions, and from the outset they asked family members about certain things Lisa said on the tape. One thing about that tape and traffic citation: at least it verified where Lisa was at a point in time. Without that, even when Eaton was caught there would always have been questions if he abducted her hours away, in any direction, before making it back to his property.

On edit: last night I discovered the remarkable website dedicated to Lisa: http://www.geocities.com/ForLisaKimmell/ That's by far the best website I've seen of its type, just the right balance of a tribute to Lisa including pictures from her life, and also information on the case and trial. I recommend it to everyone here.

Mrs. Kimmell, as evidenced here, does a great job responding to questions in the forum at that site. I learned quite a bit, including the theory Eaton apparently lay in wait for a random victim at the rest stop, which is in a remote location. I never knew Lisa's Honda was apparently towed 22 miles back to Eaton's property, since the trip meter on the Honda placed her almost exactly at the rest stop.

I also never realized the police officer accompanied Lisa to an ATM after the traffic citation, but the machine would not take Lisa's card so she didn't have the full $120. I read the officer, Lesco, feels guilty he didn't routinely toss Lisa in jail for the night, instead of letting her go with a signed promise to return. He even said something at trial to the effect she would be alive today in that case. IMO the officer did the right thing, the apparently helpful thing since Lisa was on a short trip to see her boyfriend. Holding her overnight would scream as a wilderness speed trap jerk. None of us have the benefit of a crystal ball. So many tragic what-ifs in this case.

Hi Awsi Dooger,

Sorry I didn't catch your "edited" post until now. Just a couple things, thanx for sharing Lisa's web site info with everyone. FYI - I didn't set it up or have anything to do with it's design. The credit goes to a gal from Georgia that I have never met who took unpon herself to set it up after learning about Lisa's story. Needless to say, we were very touched.

Then just a couple things about Al Lesco, the HP that stopped her for speeding. This has greatly troubled him over the years. He even drove over a 150 mile to be at burning of Eaton's property this summer and he still carries so much undeserved guilt. So often we think of people in law enforcement to lack emotion. We have found that is not the case, well most of the time because we have met some that were real jerks. Even Doc Thorpen who performed her autopsy was deeply affected by Lisa case. He has to have a very detached inner fortitude to do what he does for a job but this case has always been one that has gotten to him. BTW he came to the burning, too. Generally, in the public's eye, most of these people put up a front but I can tell you, we have shared many tears together with most of them behind the scenes. Then just one last comment about Lesco, we have assured him repeatly that he didn't do anything wrong, even we had "what iffed" this thing over and over ourselves wondering if we could have altered her fate. I so wish that I would have insisted on traveling with her to Wyo instead of getting on that damn airplane the day before. My husband drove by Eaton's property at least 4 times while searching for her and she was still alive but didn't save her. The reality is, neither of us did anything wrong, it was solely the doing of an evil preditor - Dale Eaton.

Sorry to have rambled on and thanx again.
Sheila Kimmell

I appreciate Lil Miss being remembered here. I posted her picture with links to her story at:

http://snipurl.com/lzxh and
http://tinyurl.com/8rrtx

Lisa Marie "Lil Miss" Kimmel we will always remember you! Only by remembering do we have a chance to save future "Lil_Miss's" from the horrible fate!:(

Like I said in my last post, obliterating any trace of that lair that monster was in was the first step in healing. The Kimmells will never fully recover especially since their only son also died tragically long before Lisa. You don't have to lose a loved one in such a manner to feel their pain and anguish. But there are many families who are undergoing the same anguish. CCF and UM are full of such stories -- Eglena deLeon, Justin Wiles, the Huling family, Officers Curtis and Phillips, Angela Wong, Paola Illera, Rasheeda Washington, and many more.

At the risk of repeating myself I first learned of this case when I was researching the Culberson (http://www.findcarrieculberson.com) case. There are several threads and links to the case because both were young women last seen driving the exact same model car in the dead of night. The difference is that Lisa was found. Carrie however is still missing and presumed dead. At least the murderers of both are facing justice for their crimes. Many families are suffering because of the evil of others.

We will always blame ourselves and suffer over them. As Dr. Bukhanovsky in Citizen X said, "If we did not suffer over them, then we'd be monsters ourselves." No matter what happens it is the innocents who suffer.

But remember that the ultimate blame and responsibility does not lie within us but with the psychopathic evildoers -- the Andrei Chikhatilo's, Coral Watts', Oba Chandler's, Dale Eaton's, Ahron Kee's, Ted Bundy's, John McRaes, and John Gacy's of the world. I include Eaton because I believe he is responsible for more murders than he is credited for. I believe the answers lie somewhere on his property.

How far away was the rest stop and where was it exactly located? Was it on Highway 20?

Mrs. Kimmell is a very strong woman and I know her daughter is one of God's Angels. Good bless the family. She once told me that she hoped that Debbie Culberson can one day bring her daughter home too so she can be honored with a decent burial.

Well this story is just incredibly sad and horrible. My sympathies go out to the Kimmel's. Well if I remember right in the original UM segment wasnt the high way patrol man that pulled her over even considered a suspect at that time? But yeah that is terrible for him to feel such guilt. It is natural for a person to feel that way. About how if he had taken her into jail she would still be alive. He had no way of knowing what would happen so I feel bad he harbors such guilt. The only person to blame for what happened to Lisa is Dale Eaton. Just a very sad case it honestly sounds like the most brutal crime for sure that area has ever seen. After reading some of the details of what he did to her it made me sick. The trial and stuff really brought out stuff that I didnt know before. Like I didnt know about the highway patrolman going with Lisa to the ATM. Poor guy though, I hope he is doing alright in his life. As for Kimmel's I wish you the best. Just a very sad case, at least Eaton is put away so he cant do this to anyone else. It wouldnt surprise me if the guy is a serial killer. Did they ever investigate him for Amy's death in 1997?

Hi dthdc and kadrmas

First let me say, our heart goes out to the Culbertson and Betchel family's We were at least forunate in the most unforunate of circumstances to have at least found our daughter.

To answer some questions - the rest stop was on highway 20-26 was just 22 miles from Eaton's place. The reading on the trip meter of her car from where we think she last fueled almost exactly mathches the distance from that point to the rest stop. The Highway Patrolman that stopped her was the first person they needed to "eliminate" as a suspect because he was the last known to person to have contact with her. That was done immediately with the blood sample they took from him.

We do believe that Eaton is responsible for the deaths of others (as many as 12) including Amy Wroe Betchel. Eaton is considered as a "person of interest" but very little if anything has been done to seriously dig into the matter. It has come basically down to two things, they need to find Amy's body or Eaton needs to talk. Neither of which has or is likely to happen. Then add to the mix that they are still hung up on the theory that Amy's husband did it.

Lastly thank you again for your kind and thoughtful words for our family and Thank you for not forgetting Lisa and the other victims without a voice that are still out there who have not yet been found.

Sheila Kimmell

What a fitting end to this case. I have to be honest, I didn't think they would find Lisa's car or body when I fiirst saw this case sometime in the early to mid 90s because of the lack of information on it. Then I saw the Cold Case Files segment and was astounded at how she and her car were hidden and were later found. My hat's off to those that solved this one and my heart goes out to Lisa's family. Mrs. Kimmell, there are many people here that will never know the pain you went through, but we are glad that you got some kind of closure and now that scum will never do this to another girl.

I wonder if it is in the Crystaldawn DVD collection? It seemed many were moved by this case

Yes its on volume 5.

Hi All (and welcome back dynoguy)
I just wanted to let you know that Court TV is starting to film next week for one of their series titled Body of Evidence centering around Lisa's case. Their focus is on the importance and usefulness of criminal profiling. I don't have a projected air date yet but it usually takes them a couple months to edit a weeks worth of filming into a half hour program. But I will post the date and times once I know.

Again - Thanx to all for your thoughtful kindness.

Sheila Kimmell

Sheila -

Thanks for letting us know! I like "Body of Evidence" and I've always been bothered by Lisa Marie's case ever since I first saw on "Lil Miss" on UM. It will be good to see that portion of the program, so thanks for sharing.

By the way, you are strong in ways I never could be. May God bless you and your family.

Regards,

TM

Awesome about it beign on body of evidence, I have always liked the show, one of the better ones at Court Tv, usually that is the only good time to watch Court Tv is on Saturday nights when they still air the good shows.

I just last week saw Lisa Kimmells story on A&E. I found it so incredibly heartbreaking. I have never had a show or movie bother me so much as this has. Such a young innocent girl to have to go through what she did. While watching the show with my wife they showed a picture of Lisa, we both looked at each other...my wife looked like her when she was that age, kinda freaked us both out which only made the story hit home even harder. My wife had even worked at Arbys as a manager out of highschool, but that was in Ohio and then transferred to Florida to manage, not that any of that means anything, just weird. I found a site of interest that some may be interested in ;

https://uncalumni.merchantsecure.com/Foundation/Give/GiveOnline.asp?a=2696
it's to donate to the Lisa Kimmell memorial scholarship. Certainly for a great cause. My heart felt sympathy to the Kimmell family. May Lisa rest in peace.

May Eaton rot in the bowels of hell.

Tony A.

Glad to have you posting Tony A. As you may or may not know Lisa's mother Sheila posts on here pretty regularly. She's a wonderful person. Also I wanted to let you know (in case you didn't) that Sheila with some help has written a book about Lisa's case. I have it and it is excellent reading so I would recommend it to anyone who wants to know more about this heartbreaking case. Here's a link:

http://www.amazon.com/Murder-Lil-Miss-Sheila-Kimmell/dp/0976747006

Uhh... did *I* know that Sheila wrote a book about Lisa? :confused:

Off to Amazon I go... thanks for the link, CD! :)

^ Yeah its a great read I got it for Christmas two years ago (2006)

Twenty years, twenty years have passed. Almost that long since we were neighbors Shelia...I don't even know what to say, but that the Simon family once again sends our love to you and yours.

I have the book you wrote. It took me a while to get myself to read it. But I did. Very well written, your personality and drive really came out in it. You were right in saying the book would show people who Lisa was. My memories of her are small, cause I was barely 6 when she was taken. But I remember. My aunt Deanna read the book twice, but my mom doesn't know if she can bring herself to. She watches a lot of true crime shows, but I guess reading a book about a girl who babysat her 4 kids is just not something she is ready for.

I am sorry I was not good at keeping in contact. We are all well. Us 4 kids are adults, even if we don't act like it. Jesse is almost 31 and has been working in metal smithing, making jewelry and such. Joshua is 28 and raises poultry and works for Boeing. I am freshly 26 and busy working with my church youth. John is 23 and is a half a year into the Airforce stationed in Germany. My folks are doing well. We are six people who were touched by Lisa and your family.

God Bless you. Hugs to you !

Love, Rebecca Simon

I cant believe they found her car buried YEARS after this happened. Thats incredible.

Certainly never expected this case to be ever solved.